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Cereal Killer Mafia - Postgame

Discussion in 'Circus Maximus' started by RBG, Oct 13, 2009.

  1. RBG

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    No introductory comments, sorry.

    [jump=Balanced Breakfast]Balanced Breakfast[/jump]
    [jump=animals]Animals[/jump]
    [jump=bakers]Baker's Guild[/jump]
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    [jump=awards]Awards[/jump]
    [jump=spreedsheets]Spreadsheets[/jump]

    [a]Balanced Breakfast[/a]Balanced Breakfast

    Jack of all trades, Clovers was village safeguard, which protected a kidnapping, and Pot of Gold was double lynch. Unfortunetly, he was lynched early on because IPL claimed someone was cleaned by Tenken, which had people thinking he cleaned two people. Also, waited until night 1 to use his inspect. 5/10

    Idled the night 0, died day 1, not much to say really, just as Twash and I have said "It's stupid to claim a strong role when their is a day kill", not like he know that though :p - 5/10

    Two of my favorite roles got stuck with this guy. He created the most interesting Night 1 and Night 2s, possible since many people targeted the two people he switched night 1, resulting in Moi's death and the waste of the Baker's Perma-hooker on Moi as well. After that fell under Dubulous' command and made it so IPL wasn't captured and instead was silenced. 7/10

    ooof. This guy was thrown around left and right. The Baker's thought this guy was either wolf or animal, no thanks to IPL telling them to contact him through his notes. Unfortunately, never was targeted by a killer, so he was just a plain old vanillager. 5/10

    Ooooooooof. Maybe it's just me, but he had the most failed logic in the game. His hunches near the end cost them the game, as they turned out to all be wrong, except for Dubulous being mafia. Fun Fact: Dubulous had Da Letter El idle the night Staraptor Call cleaned him. Also, I assumed that you would get the alphabet joke if you looked at his name, much like the one i gave you for tennisace. When you find out the village leader is mafia, you need to remember that they could be telling the truth to throw you off. That's not to say he did nothing, because he did find the redirector for the Baker's night 0. 3/10

    Ahhh Moi. I really wanted blue_light to have this role, but moi was pretty funny with it too. He tried to use his ability as best possible, but was unfortunatly caught in the cross fire of night 1. 6.5/10

    FYI, publicly claiming mayor isn't the exact best thing to do in the beginning of the game. Thankfully, between crossfire and other better targets, he survived until the end, only to be the second to last killed. Basically bandwagoned voted, although if he had voted Da Letter El Day 8, the village woulda won. Oh well. 5/10

    Didn't really accomplish much, Just prevented Jimbo from absorbing the redirect powers Night 0. All other targets didn't do anything the night he targeted them anyways. 5/10

    Twas not happy to be a vanillager. Would have become a wolf if King Vitamin died. Sadly, tennisace died first. Not much to say as he didn't really do anything. 5/10

    Jimbo contacted him night 0 so the village could have 2 bodyguards, since they didn't need to worry about Night 0 kills. To bad he was hooked. Didn't prevent any kills and didn't seem to add much to conversation. 5.5/10

    He tired so hard to convince everyone he was really village. It woulda helped if he had posted more announcements or something like that. Having only 3 announcments, and one from IPL, known mafia, didn't help him make his case at all. 5/10

    Checked Supermarth64 night 0. Told IPL i believe and was killed night 1. Like many others he didn't really do much at all, as the village was being lead blindly the whole way it seems. 5.5/10

    Typical question asker. Found out night 0 the mafia had a redirector, Night 1 asked about village role checkers, then 2 more times asked me to clarify that. 5.5/10

    ---------[a]Animals[/a]
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    Reading his letters he sent was pretty funny, I'll let him post them later for you to see. Tried to mole the village, then when he found out SM64 was neutral, tried to mole him as neutral. Too bad SM64 already knew the third neutral. Having himself kidnapped two nights in a row was a little suspicious, and at the first (second) available opportunity, got himself lynched. Still, he got enough info will alive to have a full spreadsheet almost. 7/10

    Prevented Jimbo from getting the Bodyguard Night 0, and Twash from capturing Day 2. Killed by twash, and followed IPL's orders till his death. Not much else to say really. Unlike most of the villagers, he actually caused stuff to happen. 6/10

    Tried too hard to defend Kharozz, which pointed him out as obvious mafia animal. Kidnapped people under IPL's command (might as well as given IPL 4 accounts). After IPL died, randomly targeted his kidnappings. 5/10

    Did what he was told, but his secret votes never really affected the game at all. Then when he was being lynched, dubulous came to him and said if you give me your spreadsheet we won't lynch you. Word of advice: Mafias should not share spreadsheets.4/10

    [a]bakers[/a]
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    Nameinspected Moi night 0, then namekilled night 1 by Supermarth64. Didn't get to do much, not even making his team fake PMs afaik. 5/10

    You wouldn't believe it was this guys first Mafia the way he played. Exclently moled the village and lead his team to victory, expertly leading staraptor call to believe 100% that Da Letter El was not mafia, which allowed them to win the final lynch. Also convinced Xyphang to share his spreadsheet. Expect good things from this one 10/10

    Poor altair was hooked night 0, not that it made any difference, as moi had no powers and Jimbo got lynched Day 1. Tried to argue that he wasn't mafia, but he evidence against him was pretty damning. 5/10

    Somehow, through all his broken logic near the end, (read it in retrospect and see just how many holes their were) he was able to win the last lynch. That masterful performance of lies, along with dubulous spreading true AND false info, allowed him to easily convince the 2 unsure villagers. Used his ability on the hooker the night the animals planned to kill him, but was witched to moi, so it was wasted anyways. I'll have to ask matty why he gave him the BPV, which changed the whole game at the end, and I frankly don't remember the reasoning.9/10

    [a]neutrals[/a]
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    Poor poor jimbo. After being targeted by 4! abilites night 0 and planning on working with the village to coast to an easy win, he only gained 2 abilties, but neither of them made him lynch proof, as IPL didn't want to let something like this run free. Oh well, at least he had a good plan 6.5/10

    My favorite two roles in the game. Twash got into the village easily by showing only his night skip ability, which, unfortunately, was used a night that neither of the mafias could kill. SM64 started out as a neutral talking to IPl, but claimed 1 in 3 inspector and talked to by dubulous. They were well on their way to winning and if Da Letter El didn't kill Twash, then they would have coasted to victory. In retrospect, I shoulda given Supermarth64 more powers when he died, because he couldn't defend himself at all during the day really and was rather weak as a solo wolf, but oh well. 9/10

    [a]awards[/a]
    Awards
    Best Newcomer: Dubulous, as if their was really any competition for this role.

    Best Villager: None. In a game that was moled 100% by mafia and neutrals, none of them realized this till it was too late.

    Best Baker: Dubulous again, if you need any more proof, I'm sure others can attest to this as well.

    Best Animal: Imperfectluck. Made a gazillion fake Role pms and was doing most (read:all) of the planning for his team before he died.

    Best Neutral: Twash. Wisley used his day kills and moled the village for quite some time until dubuolous got a hold of the Animal's spreedsheet.

    Best Sub: Subs?!?! We don't need no stinkin' subs!

    Worst Player: Kharozz and Staraptor Call. Sharing a mafia's spreadsheet is a nono. And feel free to look back on some of Staraptor Call's posts to find obvious examples of the failed logic (If lord blood was silenced and Dubulous targeted him, that means that he was not working with the silencer, or was the inspector when their inspector already died fyi)

    [a]Spreedsheets[/a]
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    If anyone want to share theirs, feel free to post it and make it public.

    Here is mine with night actions: Day/Night actions (Check out Night 1 for much hilarity)


    Any questions, anything I left out, feel free to ask. It was fun hosting, Matty and I are planning another mafia so hopefully this isn't my last time hosting.


    [jump=Balanced Breakfast]Balanced Breakfast[/jump]
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  2. Da Letter El

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    Fyi it wasnt Xyphang that shared the spreadsheet, it was Kharozz :P. I'll edit in more of my thoughts in a bit.
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    Firstly, this was the most fun I've had playing mafia, so thanks for providing a cool game. I have to say a dubulous played a fucking immense game, especially considering it was his first. I really didn't suspect him early-mid game. Playing against ipl was fun too - I tried pulling all kinds of tricks against him to get him to simply fuck off (too nosy!), in the end it got to a point where I just wanted to get rid of him, hence the lynch.

    Playing with supermarth was really, really cool too. Despite the slight timezone issues, we got around most things together and were so close to winning it at the end (all we needed is for us not to be killed..). I had a few great moments due to us being partners, but there were two that really stuck out. The first was when ipl tried to get me to say I was by saying I was inspected by supermarth..he then got supermarth to "confirm" this. It was a pretty hilarious moment. The other time was when dubulous told supermarth he had the mafia's spreadsheet and was going to kill me - I somehow managed to worm my way out of the kill for one night (damn needed another!).

    I'm really surprised the village didn't win at the end. When supermarth essentially gave up (no worries mate!), it should have been pretty obvious...Raverist's posts confused me too, I get the message he didn't read the Role PMs of the dead. If I'm honest, once we died I wanted a village win, even if just for the hilarity of a village winning with two mole leaders. I guess if that had happened we would have regretted shooting the crap out of each other.

    We knew da letter el had a bpv, so we had to try and kill dubulous, and get da letter el to kill a villager to win handily. Didn't quite work out, but that's mafia. I'm really glad dubulous won (and the rest of you guys), he especially did an awesome job and deserves this more than anybody.

    It's a shame our powers kind of went to waste though. My night end would've been great later on, and to be honest we never found the right moment to use supermarth's day ending ability, until the night before we died. Oh well.

    My favourite moment of the game though, was PMing dubulous some nasty stuff. I think he genuinely got worried about the implications if he were to kill me :D. We had a good laugh about that.

    Finally, cheers to RBG who had to put up with my constant moaning and PMing xD (and matty!).
  4. blue_light

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    Well I had tried to take a gamble by earning moi's trust, but unfortunately I was namekilled. I really don't know why people trusted ipl at all, I had him marked as animal on day 1, but moi wouldn't listen to me at all and was thoroughly convinced that ipl was a villager, albeit a dumb one.

    The reason I didn't make fake role pms for my team is because they have to learn to make it themselves, small mafias are for learning, not to exploit some noobs and win in a glorious fashion, but to get them ready to play big mafias. I did, however, look over their fakes which I admit they did a fairly good job.
  5. matty

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    hahaha Dubulous is ballin'

    Game was fun to watch. I'm glad that RB ran it. You did a great job man.

    We are also going to release another small game coming up soon. We both Co-Wrote it (Ness is helping as well..) so look out for that.
  6. Raverist

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    Now, I know that I had a role that basically made me a vanillager, but to survive to the end of the game as a first game is a pretty surprising feat for me, and one's glad of that. The fact that I didn't have any night actions meant that I couldn't do better, but I suppose that's the luck of the draw. I pretty much cost the village its victory as well, damningly, by not lynching DLL, but that was pretty much unavoidable, as it was literally a coinflip decision.

    Nevertheless, I'll learn next time. Grats to the bakers, now come play fish mafia.
  7. Dubulous

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    This was an awesome game. I had a blast playing and I'll definitely be playing in more mafias on here.

    So yeah, this was my first mafia and I was pretty pleased when I saw my team. Blue_light is a great player and I knew DLE and Altair played some too. I figured I could pretty much get by with listening to what b_l told me to do and learn about how to play by observing. But then b_l died and Altair was revealed mafia so that went right out the window :/

    I figured if we wanted any chance at winning we had to take action. With moi's death the village was without a leader, and my fake was good enough that I could lead without needing to be protected. I was still tentative about it though until twash said he wanted to lead too. So I teamed up with twash and began gathering claims.

    Basically, my strategy was to kill off all the power roles of the village, let the Animals kill village, and then lead lynches on the Animals. The plan was working well enough that I felt I could kill off twash, a good player who would be bound to wise up to my actions sooner or later. I made the mistake of sharing this with Supermarth, though, so twash learned of my plans and sent me a pretty nasty pm about it. I found out twash was a wolf so I figured I could kill him the next night before he killed me. Unfortunately, we ended up killing each other, as we both realized we couldn't win with the other around.

    I had a really great support system in Da Letter El. He played phoenominally all game and helped keep me from making too many mistakes (I can't believe I didn't think you two were a team!). I couldn't have done it without you, man.

    Thanks for hosting, RB. I know it wasn't easy constantly putting up with me on IRC.
  8. tennisace

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    I would have rather been strawberry flavored than vanilla =(

    However, it was a very fun game and I enjoyed playing (though you could have at least told me BEFORE i died who i needed dead, so that the village could have decided whether to sacrifice the mayor and get a vig or keep the mayor xD)
  9. blue_light

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    Dle was most likely given a bpv because we had no way of protecting ourselves. Our line up of inspector, silencer, redirector, one time ability killer was fairly poor in terms of protection as compared to the animals who had vote changer, kidnapper, bg, and hooker. They had 3 ways to prevent thselves from getting killed and a much larger voting prescense.
  10. Altair

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    Couple of notes, i'll edit more in later:

    We thought Lord Blood was other mafia because he contacted my during d1 saying he was other mafia.

    The vote count was 8 votes for me and 7 votes for jimbo about an hour before d1 was over, but i luckily got Tenken and AlphaBravo to change their votes to jimbo.

    In my chat with AlphaBravo when i tried to get him to change his vote he inexplicably told he me was village hooker lol.

    In dle's fake of Fred Flintstone, he spelled it "Flinstone" originally before i got him to correct it.

    Dub, dle, and b_l are awesome teammates.
  11. supermarth64

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    Once again, I'd have to say that STARAPTOR CALL HAS NO SENSE OF LOGIC (Raverist also).

    DLE claimed that Lanterminator was mafia and that he was BPV. If they were what he said, then WHO'S ANNOUNCING?

    That and I wouldn't kill myself just so I could end the game faster. I planned on taking DLE down with me, but golly was too stupid to.

    Fun nevertheless. Also, had whoever from the Animals not given Dubulous their spreadsheet, he never wouldve approached me and I never wouldve learned he was mafia.
  12. YoshiX

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    They claimed I was mafia announcer.

    GG, and I lol'd IRL when Staraptor Call and Raverist called my "fake" role pm crap.
  13. supermarth64

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    DLE had that nowhere in his fake PM of you.
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    Bad move on Alpha's part was joining IRC as 'Cerealvillagehooker' saying who he was hooking and then rejoining a few minutes later as himself. Think he died the next night but I guess it probably didn't matter with all the moles.
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    I actually was convinced that Da Letter El was mafia when the final day came and I was ready to yell "LYNCH DA LETTER EL YOU IDIOTS!" at my screen.

    I also found out that Dubulous was mafia when he ordered the lynch on Xyphang. I was planning on exposing him there and then, but then I thought "Wait, Tenken could check alliances. Did his role count though?" That's why I asked the question to clarify the answer.

    Overall, that was a boring game for me, since RBG decided to give me a shitty role :/
  16. Dubulous

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    Yeah, twash told me that you figured out I was mafia, and that's why I killed you that night. To be fair, though, I did have real inspection results from Supermarth. He had the whole PM and everything.
  17. Da Letter El

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    Well, I was originally going to just edit my post, but I might as well post stuff in this post. There's a lot of explanation on what I actually ended up doing this game, so yeah. Prepare for some tl;dr action.

    First, I'm kind of disappointed my permanent hook massively failed as we double-targeted with the animals that night. That wasn't cool.

    Next, while I'm not sure if this was noted above or not, IPL used his role to PM us every night saying something along the lines of "Contact Lord Blood; he is our contact." So I got in contact with Lord Blood after a long time of us just not matching up time-wise, and so I actually told him my partner was Raverist (so I could have an alley out since at that point Raverist was cleaned, so I would just say to Lord Blood that I was given a lead that he was an Animal and was trying to "mole" the wolf). Lord Blood sent me a role PM that ultimately helped me out in the day 8 lynch. He claimed he was the cookie crisp wolf to me with a pretty bad fake role PM, but that he was allied with the animals and his partner was flounder <_<; I never would have thought to claim that I tried "moling the bakers" without this interaction with Lord Blood, so I honestly have to thank him for that, as I think that helped me out in being able to post a fake role PM of lanterminators. I figured that I should say this, as it could have had some big implications if Lord Blood came out and posted the log of me talking to him where I say that I am mafia.

    Up until day 5, I really didn't do a whole lot (besides purposely not claim my role to IPL and talk to Lord Blood + plot/scheme with Dubulous) where Kharozz was inspected by supermarth64. After that, I decided that I would talk with Kharozz, since he kind of felt like he was screwed. Ultimately, what did his team in was that Xyphang posted a counter-lynch on Lord Blood, when there was so much evidence against Kharozz. If Xyphang hadn't done that, I would not have had nearly as much sway in trying to convince Kharozz that his only way to win was to win this lynch (as I made it very clear that Xyphang was going to be the next one lynched). After talking with Kharozz for a little bit and telling him that I would "try to get the village to test your role if I got access", he gave me access to IPL's spreadsheets (which had been edited minimally to "attempt" to fool us...didn't really work). Getting the spreadsheet honestly just made things more organized, as Dubulous's spreadsheet was so disorganized it hurt the eyes; we had the info (besides twash, which neither IPL nor we guessed; Lord Blood, who we thought was the 2nd neutral for a short while; and SM64, ironically, but I'm pretty sure we would have figured him out on our own).

    Anyway, from there until the whole day 8 thing, I mostly just talked through decisions on silencing and killing with Dubulous. The only thing that I wish happened was that during day 7 when Lord Blood was being lynched was that I had told Lord Blood to speak if he was silenced and let the village know that twash was wolf. This would have been interesting to see play out, as I was convinced that twash was going to attempt to kill either me or dubulous during the day (although dubulous I believe felt as if twash would honestly kill raverist as was talked about between those two). I might have made a mistake in telling Lord Blood to get twash, as lynching sm64 probably would have been more beneficial. In any case, it never happened, but I would have loved to see it play out.

    And then came the big day 8 lie fest. Honestly, up until night 6, I had a fake PM ready saying I was sunny the raisin bran sun and that I was a BPV. Then twash comes and sends Dubulous his role PM, and I was pretty pissed off that my prepared false-claim was going to waste. Anyway, I hadn't made a fake claim for day 8, so when sm64 tried fuck tigering me, I was freaking out so much. I have to give so much credit to my teammates for looking through my fakes at the last minute to give me criticisms and ideas to make them better. At first when I posted my Fred Flintstone role PM, I spelled Flintstone wrong, which could have been very problematic to say the least. Anyway, I just tried quoting some random past mafias that would help out my cause, edited my own PM so it fit lanterminator's role, and then after lanterminator called me out for knowing stuff I shouldn't naturally, I recycled part of the Lord Blood pm he sent me and used it, trying to jazz it up to be more fitting. From there, it became a matter of trying to make my claim sound more believable than his, and yeah...I managed to pull that out.

    This was definitely my best small mafia experience ever, and I look forward to trying to get into the other game to be hosted by you and matty in the future.
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    It was a fun game, thanks for hosting RBG.
    I suppose I shouldn't have defended Kharozz and just gone with the lynch, and I should've accused Dubulous of being mafia (I had this hunch, and after Tenken was lynched, I was pretty sure of it) earlier, instead of posting it as a more defensive thing. Towards the mid-game, I was working on a role PM as Yummy Mummy, which was a cereal not in the game, but then I ditched it because I figured IPL's one was better.

    Oh, and for the record, I wasn't the one that shared the spreadsheet.
  19. Da Letter El

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    I know, I pointed that out twice for you haha. Dubulous also wasnt the one to weasle his way into the spreadsheet either :P
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    Damn. You. Ashley.
  21. Lord Blood

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    I had no idea that I could talk when I was silenced, DLE. >.> But then again, it was an interesting game, for the Mafia and Animals. The village was pretty fucking retarded. The inspector was crap, but I gotta give it props to IPL who actually convinced me that he was a villy. GG guys. Next time, I'm playing IRC Mafia. =D
  22. RBG

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    Oh, and a few more things.

    Apoligizes to Twash and Supermarth, as they were ready to do their Stealth Lynch the Day that lord blood was lynched but I had to leave right after the update. No doubt if they had pulled that off, they would have been much closer to winning and the baker's would not have been as close.

    Also, since IPL, hasn't posted his notes, here are the notes he sent, in order:

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    I feel so special, I got mention in every note <3

    But yeah, there wasn't much I could do this game. I was really worried about getting killed, seeing as I was bodyguard, so I didn't draw too much attention to myself.
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    You can, its just that you get godkilled if you talk. I wanted you to do that so that you felt like your "inevitable death" didn't go to waste, and so that a wolf would get lynched. This would make it so that my team would be in a better position to win, although it would have some benefits for the village as well (apparently the village wants to lynch neutrals too :P).
  25. blue_light

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    You were doing that at all, you contacted me for no reason, not only that but all the mafia members and wolves knew you were the bg by the end of n1. However they didn't kill you cause you weren't even that big of a threat to their chances of winning.

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