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Pokémon Chesnaught

Discussion in 'OverUsed' started by Psylink, Oct 15, 2013.

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What variant of Bulk Up should I do?

  1. Bulk Up

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  2. SubBU

    19.8%
  3. Both

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  1. Psylink

    Psylink

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    Holy crap! I've clearly got too many alerts in my alert box.

    So, correct me if there's more.

    Spikes
    Synthesis
  2. Psylink

    Psylink

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    Chesnaught receives CC by level up.
  3. Mario With Lasers

    Mario With Lasers Self-proclaimed DEAD king
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    Leaf Tornado and Razor Shell weren't exclusive to Snivy/Oshawott either. It's perfectly possible Spiky Shield is learned by something else via breeding.
  4. Agent Gibbs

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    Where did you hear that from? I just checked both Chesnaught's research thread and its Serebii page, and neither have any mention of Close Combat.
  5. IamChaos

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    According to serebii.net, his base stats are 88/107/122/74/75/64
  6. DIY Zachary

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    @ Capt. Fail

    I am using a similar set on my cartridge to play random Wi-Fi.

    Chesnaught @ Leftovers
    Impish
    252 Def (The rest are scattered)
    - Seed Bomb
    - Power-Up Punch
    - Leech Seed
    - Spiky Shield

    Beside the fact that Chesnaught can't Power-Up against a Ghost, it is slow, and using too many support moves leaves it vulnerable to Taunt. I chose Seed Bomb over Wood Hammer because taking recoil damage seems counter-productive.

    Another bit of information I found out:

    In Double Battle, if Chesnaught absorbs an attack (Earthquake) from its partner while using Spiky Shield, its partner does not take damage.
  7. Psylink

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    Outclassed by Bulk Up, Swords Dance, and SubSeed in certain aspects of the set. Thanks for trying, though!
  8. Valin

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    Just began using a bullet proof and A shadow ball got used on me and said, it had no effect
  9. Bravadorado

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    Yes, that is the point of the ability...
  10. -Nitro-

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    I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt and assuming he posted that to confirm Shadow Ball is covered by Bulletproof. (Which we knew, but still.)

    Do we have a list of moves, for sure, covered by bullet proof? We can ASSUME anything with 'ball' and 'bomb' in the name, but I'd like to know what all is covered under it. I don't have a HA Chespin yet (=[), but as soon as I do, I'll be trying things.
  11. Psylink

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    Agent Gibbs That is true, I think it's in the research thread. If you can't find it anywhere, then tell me and I'll change the OP.
  12. Agent Gibbs

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    Yeah sorry, I just can't find it anywhere. I double checked the research thread and Serebii's page and there's no Close Combat in its level-up learnset. It might be available as an egg move, not sure if anyone has tried that yet, but for now I'd remove it.
  13. StonekingZ

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    I have 3 Lvl 100 Chesnaughts. . .
    No, he doesn't.

    It's not, I tried.
  14. Ultimathunder

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    Gamefreak WTF u missed the chance to make Chesnaught even more awesome by giving it drain punch and throwing horns on it so it could get horn leech. But w/e Chesnaught is still the most awesome Kalos starter.

    there is a lot of hype around the new protect moves like spiky shield, but imo they will become really predictable and hard to use, the same way sub-protect sets are easy to deal with if the player knows how.
    How much damage does spiky shield deal anyway?

    EDIT: I don't think Close Combat will be a good move on Chesnaught because its highest stat is defense, and running CC wastes that. If GF gave it drain punch it would be better.
    Last edited: Oct 21, 2013
  15. Lord Jesseus

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    I'm about 90% certain that Chesnaut will learn Drain Punch

    ...in the next game when it inevitably comes back as a tutor move. Until then, it looks like Hammer Arm is as good as it gets.
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  16. DialaceStarvy

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    If you mean how much damage Spiky Shield does, I got 1/8th from testing.
  17. Ultimathunder

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    K thanks. I was hoping for something more like 1/4 lol, because king's shield has a really awesome effect so I thought it would be a better move. Oh well.
  18. hbk19

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    So one thing I noticed, Spiky Shield doesn't work twice in a row. Has to be spread out.
  19. Foxthree

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    I keep seeing that Chespin can learn spikes, wtf I have not been able to pass down anything to Chespin. How do you give him spikes? I currently have a 31/31/31/x/31/31
  20. -Nitro-

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    People used smeargle.

    As is the case with most protect moves, it has a high chance of failing if used consecutively.
  21. dadoux

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    With that physical bulk, maybe an all-out attacker @Assault vest could work ?
  22. ChaosKingStorm

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    Morpheus

    Chesnaught @ Assault vest
    Impish
    252 SDEF 252 ATK 4 DEF (feel free to play with EVs as you wish)
    - Seed Bomb
    - Power-Up Punch
    - Hammer arm/Stone Edge
    - Poison Jab
    Maybe this will work with the Assault vest, but it lack recovery.
  23. Bobviapineapple

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    Guys...
    Don't see chesnaught as something that can only do an offense set.

    Impish: 252 def, 252 hp
    Item: Leftovers
    -Leech seed
    -Toxic
    -Spiky Shield
    -Hammer Arm

    I think we have ourselves a decent wall.
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  24. Undarivik

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    I can see him being solid RU, lower UU.
  25. Bobviapineapple

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    Exactly. I think there are many overlooked qualities about him that will prevent him from being NU. I think though if Chesnaught was grass/steel, I think Chesnaught would have made a brilliant OU member.

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