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Cobalion (Analysis)

Discussion in 'Uploaded Analyses' started by Solace, May 6, 2011.

  1. Solace

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    Cobalion

    [Overview]

    <p>Cobalion's movepool falls a little short in comparison to its stronger counterparts, Terrakion and Virizion. However, this is no reason to be fooled into thinking that it is useless. Cobalion's resistance to Rock Slide also makes it somewhat worth while, since it is a common move running around in VGC, although the other members of the legendary trio also sport this key resistance. When played correctly, Cobalion provides strong offensive and some decent support capabilities. </p>

    [SET]
    name: Physical Attacker
    move 1: Close Combat / Sacred Sword
    move 2: Iron Head
    move 3: Stone Edge
    move 4: Protect
    item: Fighting Gem
    ability: Justified
    nature: Jolly
    evs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>Cobalion's best use is for its attacking power. It has great coverage against common threats, but it can sometimes fall short if not given the right support. In the fast-paced metagame of VGC 2011, where every move counts, it may not always be in your best interest to run it. However if you're feeling bold, Cobalion is a nice high risk, high reward Pokemon.</p>

    <p>Cobalion has a fairly decent movepool that beats a lot of VGC Pokemon. Stone Edge makes both Thundurus and Tornadus worry, but its accuracy can be a pain at times. Close Combat is for those who like power, and is the preferred move because hitting hard is important in VGC. However, Sacred Sword is a totally viable option, and it gets a nice boost from Fighting Gem. Iron Head provides another STAB move, and it gives coverage against Pokemon who resist Rock- and Fighting-type moves.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>Cobalion's bulk is helpful for taking many of the attacks that come its way in the doubles environment. Although it isn't the strongest Pokemon out there, if played right it can be extremely deadly. With a Fighting Gem boost, Cobalion does tons of damage to even those who resist it. Close Combat with a Fighting Gem boost is insanely powerful. However, the drops in Defense and Special Defense can be a major drawback. If you're one of those players who doesn't like to switch around very much, it may be in your best interest to run Sacred Sword. You miss out on a lot of the sheer power, but in return, Cobalion stays around to take a few more hits. </p>

    <p>A Jolly nature is preferred, as it brings Cobalion up to 176 Speed, enough to outspeed Timid Hydreigon. However, an Adamant nature allows Cobalion to hit harder and gain KOs it would lose out on with a Jolly nature. With a Jolly nature and Fighting Gem, Cobalion outspeeds and OHKOs non-Chople berry Hydreigon and other frail Pokemon. Another important thing to note is that if you're looking for someone to handle Bisharp on your team, Cobalion is your Pokemon. With its high defenses, Cobalion shrugs off Bisharp's strongest STAB attacks, and can beat it back with its powerful STAB Fighting moves.</p>

    [Other Options]

    <p>Cobalion can also make use of a supportive set. With access to Reflect, Taunt, Thunder Wave, and Helping Hand, Cobalion can serve as a decent doubles helper for a stronger Pokemon. An EV spread of 68 HP / 188 Def / 252 Spe and a Jolly Nature, Cobalion always lives Terrakion's Close Combat or Conkeldurr's Drain Punch, and can KO Terrakion back with Close Combat, or set up Reflect or use Thunder Wave. However, a more potent option is a Choice Band set. With strong attacks boosted by the Choice Band and good coverage, Cobalion can hit like a truck. However, this leaves it more open to some of the resisters of its dual STAB moves, most notably bulky Ghost-types. With help in eliminating these and proper use of Team Preview, however, Choice Band Cobalion can work excellently. There is also a special side to its attacks, which features Focus Blast and Flash Cannon, as well as Calm Mind. These moves can provide another option to beat more defensively based Pokemon. Chople or Occa Berry are also viable options, as they allow Cobalion to live many of the prevalent Fighting and Fire-type attacks. Swords Dance can also be used for a nice Attack boost, if you find the time to set it up. </p>

    [Checks and Counters]

    <p>Cobalion's typing unfortunately proves to be something of a double-edged sword. With Steel and Fighting-type STABs, Cobalion gains great coverage on the majority of the VGC 2011 metagame. However, it also leaves him weak to many of the prevalent moves as well. Landorus and Jellicent are notable counters, as both resist its most powerful moves and can dish back damage. Hydreigon is a notable check, being able to KO with Flamethrower, and live a Close Combat launched by Cobalion. Amoonguss is also a very notable counter, leaving Cobalion open to becoming Spore bait. Overall, if played correctly, Cobalion can be a very strong Pokemon, but it is hard to dispatch some of its common counters without sacrifice. </p>
  2. JRank

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    I think Chople and Occa need to be mentioned, as well as Sash because of all the Close Combats/Heat Waves being thrown around. Maybe mention that it resists Rock Slide, which is really common.
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    I'd mention it pretty much beats Bisharp with it's rock solid defenses and resisting it's STAB attacks.
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    mentioned and mentioned!
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    i'll mention swords dance...

    also vgc is played at level 50, which means that max speed is 176.
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    Mention that with a spread of 68 HP / 188 Def / 252 Spe Jolly, it retains that Speed and always survives a Terrakion's CC or Conkeldurr's Drain Punch, after which it can setup Reflect or TWave or something. It's OO material at best, but since you have a supporting set already mentioned there, I think you should mention that too.
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    editing in now! thanks for the spread cosmic
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    Jolly should be the preferred nature to Adamant, as it nets you a speed jump on many common Pokemon that can outspeed Adamant Cobalion, such as +Speed Hydreigon, Volcarona, and Landorus, before they can hit you back super-effectively. It's also very helpful to speed-tie with Terrakion, Virizion and opposing Cobalion.

    You should also mention Quick Attack, Quick Guard, and Safeguard in OO for breaking Focus sashes, providing protecting against common priority attacks (cough Mach Punch), and helping immensely against the very common Amoongus respectively.

    Mention Whimsicott as a partner for Tailwind and Beat Up support. Also mention that whilst Terrakion has better Attack and offensive typing for the job, Cobalion has better defensive typing and bulk.
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    agreeing with jolly, mention that this with fight gem ohkoes nonchople hydreigon and frailer pokemon. however, I have to say that cobalion can't function as a beat up whimsicott partner. it doesn't get any spread moves, which leaves the other pokemon free to attack.
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    A couple of people utilised Cobalion + Whimsicott in a tournament that I participated in. I'll admit that Cobalion isn't the best recipient of Beat Up. But if Swords Dance is in OO, Beat Up still deserves a mention, as Beat Up is essentially 2 SDs whilst still enabling Cobalion to attack in the same turn. It still also enjoys the Tailwind and Charm support that Whimsicott provides.
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    I've tried beat up whimsicott+ cobalion and found it quite lacking, so I don't think I'm going to include it unless anyone has a really good reason as to why.

    Will change the preferred nature to Jolly!
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    Much better, even though Cobalion is still the hardest of the Three Musketeers to use.

    QC 2/2
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    I believe Cobalion's special side should be noted more (if not an actual set, more details in OO). He has access to Close Combat, Flash Cannon, a Hidden Power of choice, and Volt Switch (excellent for scouting). Specs should definitely get a mention.
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    No it shouldn't. Those 4 moves you listed would make a terrible specs set, unstabbed Volt Switch as a highlight in VGC is pretty bad, Close Combat which would be more powerful on any physical set, Hidden Power, and the always poor Flash Cannon.
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    Placeholder. Just kidding, stamping Tobes's not oafish check cause it's cool. PS your format is great, just be sure to include a legend for future chex. Otherwise...

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    OP, go make those changes and we can move on to the next one.
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    okay going to update with that now!
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    Something I forgot is that the mention of Bisharp in AC might go better in the overview, but that's your call Solace.

    Thanks for the stamp Nixhex.
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    [Overview]

    <p>Cobalion's movepool falls a little short in comparison to its stronger counterparts, Terrakion and Virizion. However, this is no reason to be fooled into thinking that it is useless. Cobalion's resistance to Rock Slide also makes it somewhat worth while, since it is a common move running around in VGC, although the other members of the legendary trio also sport this key resistance. When played correctly, Cobalion provides a strong offense offensive and some decent support capabilities.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Physical Attacker
    move 1: Close Combat / Sacred Sword
    move 2: Iron Head
    move 3: Stone Edge
    move 4: Protect
    item: Fight Gem
    ability: Justified
    nature: Jolly
    evs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]
    <space>
    <p>Cobalion's best use is for its attacking power. It has great coverage against common threats, but it can sometimes fall short if not given the right support. In the fast-pace metagame of VGC 2011, where every move counts, it may not always be in your best interest to run it. However if you're feeling bold, Cobalion is a nice high risk, high reward Pokemon.</p>

    <p>Cobalion has a fairly decent movepool that beats a lot of VGC Pokemon. Stone Edge makes both Thundurus and Tornadus worry, but its accuracy can be a pain at times. Close Combat is for those who like power, and is the preferred move because hitting hard is important in VGC. However, Sacred Sword is a totally viable option, and it gets a nice boost from Fighting Gem. Iron Head provides another STAB move, (comma) for and it gives coverage against those who Pokemon that resist Rock- and Fighting-type moves.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>Cobalion's bulk is helpful for taking many of the attacks that come its way in the doubles environment. Although it isn't the strongest Pokemon out there, if played right it can be extremely deadly. With a Fighting Gem boost, Cobalion does tons of damage to even those who resist it. Close Combat witha Fighting Gem boost is insanely powerful. However, the drops in Defense and Special Defense can be a major drawback. If you're one of those players who doesn't like to switch around very much, it may be in your best interest to run Sacred Sword. You miss out on a lot of the sheer power, but in return, (comma) Cobalion stays around to take a few more hits. </p>
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    <p>A Jolly nature is preferred, which as it brings Cobalion up to 176 160 (this is according to Veekun, but I may be wrong) Speed, enough to outspeed Timid Hydreigon. However, an Adamant nature allows it Cobalion to hit harder and gain KOs it would lose out on with the faster a Jolly nature. With a Jolly nature and Fighting Gem, Cobalion outspeeds and OHKOs non-Chople berry Hydreigon and other frail Pokemon. Another important thing to note is that if you're looking for someone to handle Bisharp on your team, Cobalion is your Pokemon. With its high defenses, Cobalion shrugs off Bisharp's strongest STAB attacks, and can beat it back with its powerful STAB Fighting moves.</p>

    [Other Options]

    <p>Another option is a more supportive set for Cobalion Cobalion can also make use of a supportive set. With access to Reflect, Taunt, Thunder Wave, and Helping Hand, Cobalion can serve as a decent doubles helper for a stronger Pokemon. With An EV spread of 68 HP / 188 Def / 252 Spe with and (repetition of "with") a Jolly nature, means that Cobalion always lives will always be able to live Terrakion's Close Combat or Conkeldurr's Drain Punch,. and Cobalion can then proceed to KO Terrakion back with Close Combat, or set up Reflect or use Thunder Wave. However, a more potent option is a Choice Band set. With strong attacks boosted by the Choice Band and good coverage, Cobalion can hit like a truck. However, this leaves it more open to some of the resisters of its dual STAB moves, most notably bulky Ghost-types. With help in eliminating these and proper use of Team Preview, however, Choice Band Cobalion can work excellently. There is also a special side to its attacks, which features Focus Blast and Flash Cannon, as well as Calm Mind. These moves can provide another option to beat more defensively based Pokemon. Chople or Occa Berry are also viable options, which as they allow it Cobalion to live many of the prevalent Fighting- and Fire-type attacks. Swords Dance can also be used for a nice Attack boost, if you find that you'll have the time to set it up. </p>

    [Checks and Counters]

    <p>Cobalion's typing unfortunately proves to be something of a double-edged sword. With Steel and Fighting-type STABs, Cobalion gains great coverage on the majority of the VGC 2011 metagame. However, it also leaves him weak to many of the prevalent moves as well. Landorus and Jellicent are notable counters, who can as both resist its most powerful moves and can dish back damage. Hydreigon is a notable check, being able to KO with Flamethrower, and live a Close Combat launched by Cobalion. Amoonguss is also a very notable counter, leaving Cobalion open to becoming Spore bait. Overall, if played correctly, Cobalion can be a very strong Pokemon, but it is hard to dispatch some of its common counters without sacrifice. </p>


    Good write up, just a few awkward bits that could have been changed around.

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    updated so i think its done, and cobalion's speed is with an unboosted nature 160, but with jolly it reaches 176.

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