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[COMPLETED] Rotom-W

Discussion in 'XY Previews' started by ShootingStarmie, Oct 26, 2013.

  1. ShootingStarmie

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    [Pros]

    <ul>
    <li>Rotom-W has incredible typing.</li>
    <li>It's easily the best Volt Switch user in OU.</li>
    <li>With it's good stats, it can be pretty versatile.</li>
    <li>Rotom-W right now checks many dangerous threats.</li>
    </ul>

    [Cons]

    <ul>
    <li>Rotom-W's Speed stat is pretty low.</li>
    <li>When not invested into bulk, it's kinda frail.</li>
    </ul>

    <p>Rotom-Wash @ Chesto Berry<br />
    Ability: Levitate<br />
    EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpA<br />
    Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)<br />
    - Volt Switch<br />
    - Hydro Pump<br />
    - Will-O-Wisp<br />
    - Rest<br />

    <p>Rotom-W is very good in the metagame right now, as it checks extremely dangerous threats such as Talonflame, Blaziken, Togekiss, and Azumarill. Rotom-W is also great in gaining momentum via Volt Switch, as Ground-types generally can't switch in on Rotom-W in fear of its Water-type STAB attacks. Hydro Pump hits moderately hard and has nice general coverage with Volt Switch. Will-O-Wisp cripples physical attackers such as Excadrill, Azumarill, and Garchomp, as well as Breloom and Ferrothorn on the switch. Rest gives Rotom-W a second life as it's easily worn down by Stealth Rock. Chesto Berry heals off Rest.</p>

    <p>Scizor is the best teammate for Rotom-W, as it forms an incredible VoltTurn core. Rotom-W beats physical walls that switch into Scizor, such as Gliscor, Skarmory, and Gyarados, while Scizor beats Ferrothorn and Blissey that switch into Rotom-W. Forretress has great synergy with Rotom-W, as Forretress easily tanks Grass-types attacks, while Forretress also supports Rotom-W with Rapid Spin support, due to Rotom-W switching all the time. Blaziken likes free switches, as well as Rotom-W's ability to beat Talonflame and bulky Water-types, while Amoonguss beats Grass-types and helps spread status along with Rotom-W.</p>


    <p>Rotom-Wash @ Assault Vest<br />
    Ability: Levitate<br />
    EVs: 232 HP / 56 SpA / 220 Spe<br />
    Modest Nature (+Spa, -Atk)<br />
    - Volt Switch<br />
    - Discharge<br />
    - Hydro Pump<br />
    - Hidden Power Ice<br />

    <p>This set is slightly more offensive than the last set, packing more of a punch. However, with Assault Vest, Rotom-W is still very bulky. Volt Switch gains momentum, while Hydro Pump hits Ground-types that dare to switch into Volt Switch. Discharge has a nice 30% chance of paralysis, and doesn't force you to switch, meaning Rotom-W is the ultimate check to Substitute Gyarados. The Speed EVs are used to outspeed max Speed Adamant Mamoswine and all non-Scarfed Scizor, while the HP investment allows Rotom-W to live Garchomp's Banded Outrage. However, a spread of 252 HP / 4 SpA / 252 SpD can be used to become an amazing special tank.</p>

    <p>Scizor is the best teammate for Rotom-W, as it forms an incredible VoltTurn core. Rotom-W beats physical walls that switch into Scizor, such as Gliscor, Skarmory, and Gyarados, while Scizor beats Ferrothorn and Blissey that switch into Rotom-W. Forretress has great synergy with Rotom-W, as Forretress easily tanks Grass-type attacks, while Forretress also supports Rotom-W with Rapid Spin support, due to Rotom-W switching all the time. Blaziken likes free switches, as well as Rotom-W's ability to beat Talonflame and bulky Water-types, while Amoonguss beats Grass-types and helps spread status along with Rotom-W.</p>


    <p>Rotom-Wash @ Choice Scarf<br />
    Ability: Levitate<br />
    EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe<br />
    Timid Nature (+Spe, -Atk)<br />
    - Volt Switch<br />
    - Hydro Pump<br />
    - Hidden Power Ice<br />
    - Trick / Thunderbolt <br />

    <p>Rotom-W is a decent Choice Scarf user, mainly because of its access to Volt Switch, Trick, and usable Speed stat. The Speed EVs allow Choice Scarf Rotom-W to outspeed +1 Dragonite, Gyarados, and neutral-natured Haxorus and Hydreigon. Volt Switch gains momentum, while Hydro Pump allows Rotom-W to revenge kill Fire- and Ground-types such as Excadrill and Talonflame. Hidden Power Ice is used to hit Dragon- and Grass-types that resist Rotom-W's STAB attacks. Finally, Trick is used to cripple Special walls thinking they can switch into this set, such as Blissey and Ferrothorn. However, Thunderbolt is an option to allow Rotom-W to stay in and use its Electric-type STAB attacks.</p>

    <p>Scizor is the best teammate for Rotom-W, as it forms an incredible VoltTurn core. Rotom-W beats physical walls that switch into Scizor, such as Gliscor, Skarmory, and Gyarados, while Scizor beats Ferrothorn and Blissey that switch into Rotom-W. Since this set is going to be switching a lot, Defog and Rapid Spin support is pretty important, meaning Rotom-W won't get worn down. Skarmory and Scizor are viable users of Defog, and resist Grass-type attacks aimed at Rotom-W. Forretress also resists Grass-type attacks and provides support in the form of Volt Switch.</p>

    [Checks and Counters]

    <p>Bulky Grass-types such as Chesnaught, Ammonguss, and Venusaur resist both STABs and can switch in with little fear. Gastrodon is immune to Rotom-W's STAB attacks, making it a solid counter. Strong physical attackers can muscle through Rotom-W, so Pokemon such as Dragonite, Garchomp, and Breloom make for decent checks. Special walls such as Blissey and Ferrothorn easily take on anything bar Trick.
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    Physically defensive Rotom-W is much better, it can actually beat Aegislash, Excadrill, Talonflame, and Blaziken.
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    Rotom beats all of them regardless, except for maybe Blaziken.
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    Don't forget to mention what exactly the HP EV's in Bulky Attacker Rotom-W are for. Seeing as it's the same exact EV spread from the BW2 analysis, I'm pretty sure the only two things that are significant right now are avoiding the OHKO from non-Banded Garchomp's Outrage and +2 E-Speed from standard Lucario (which kind of screws you with CC anyway because it outspeeds). If you're going to keep the current spread, make sure to mention that it's to live a non-Banded Outrage Garchomp, or else it's a bit confusing as to why you wouldn't just run 252 HP EVs or less.

    EDIT: I also agree with Colonel M that Assault Vest at least needs a huge mention somewhere.
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  5. Colonel M

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    I would be willing to test it, but I was thinking Rotom-W could pull off Assault Vest; especially since Pain Split isn't available legally for it yet.

    - Volt Switch
    - Discharge
    - Hydro Pump
    - Hidden Power Ice

    was the moveset I was pondering on.

    Also, don't forget to remove Pain Split from here.
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    Definitely add the set that Colonol M mentioned. Use a 252 HP / 252 SpD spread and slash Leftovers, WoW, and Thunder Wave somewhere (with either Dishcarge or Hidden Power Ice).
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    In Additional Comments or whatever, I would also mention a Bold nature with 252 Def also working with Assault Vest, since it helps balance your defenses a bit better.
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    I've replaced the Pain Spilt set with Colonel M's set, and I've explained the EVs. Thanks for the help everyone.
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    About those teammates, what purpose do Blaziken and Amoongus serve? Obvs the others are Voltturn and spinners respectively. That should be mentioned in the set comments for sure.
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    Um, since it's in skeleton form I can't go too much into detail, but Blaziken likes free switches, as well as Rotom-W's ability to beat Talonflame and bulky water types, while Amoonguss beat's Grass types and helps spread status along with Rotom-W.
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    Adding to what Colonel M said, add a mention of a 252 HP / 252 SpD Calm spread on the Assault Vest set.
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    Maybe, but what Rotom-W needs to beat principally this gen are physical attackers. Since Rain got heavily nerfed, it no longer needs to run an absurd amount of Special bulk to avoid being worn down easily by Water typed sweepers. The Pokemon Rotom-W needs to check are all extremely powerful and therefore, running more bulk means you can check them more easily. Don't forget that some of them are commonly seen together and without any physical bulk they can wear it down more easily since Pain Split is not very good. I'd say Bold Rotom is better this gen.
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    Right, if both Jirachi and PDC think a physical set is better, is has to be considered for the main set. I'll leave this up for other QC members to discuss, both right now I think physically defensive does sound better.
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    Yea I agree that a max physical defense set is optimal right now. Rotom-W really needs every bit of physical bulk it can get to counter Pokemon like Talonflame and Aegislash because of its fairly unreliable recovery.
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    Changed the Chesto Resto set to physically defensive.
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    Either remove the Choice Specs slash or give it a set of its own. It's common knowledge that Choice Scarf and Choice Specs play different roles on a team so they deserve different sets.
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    I've removed Specs for now, but if other QC members really feel it deserves a set, I'll add it back.
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    QC APPROVED 1/3
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    qc approved 2/3
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    we talked about the stuff on irc so 3/3
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    Thanks Plus. This is ready for GP!
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    [Pros]
    (line break)
    <ul>
    <li>Rotom-W has incredible typing.</li>
    <li>It's easily the best Volt Switch user in OU.</li>
    <li>With it's good stats, it can be pretty versatile.</li>
    <li>Rotom-W right now checks many dangerous threats.</li>
    </ul>

    [Cons]

    <ul>
    <li>Rotom-W's sSpeed stat is pretty low.</li>
    <li>When not invested into bulk, it's kinda frail.</li>
    </ul>

    <p>Rotom-Wash @ Chesto Berry<br />
    Ability: Levitate<br />
    EVs: 252 HP / 228 Def / 28 SAtk SpA<br />
    Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)<br />
    - Volt Switch<br />
    - Hydro Pump<br />
    - Will-O-Wisp<br />
    - Rest<br />

    <p>Rotom-W is very good in the metagame right now, as it checks extremely dangerous threats like such as Talonflame, Blaziken (is it banned?), Togekiss, and Azumarill. Rotom-W is also great in gaining momentum via Volt Switch, as Ground-(hyphen)types generally can't switch in on Rotom-W in fear of it'(apostrophe)s Water-type STAB attacks. Hydro Pump hit'(apostrophe)s moderately hard,(RC) and has nice general coverage with Volt Switch. Will-O-Wisp cripples physical attackers like such as Excadrill, Azumarill, and Garchomp, as well as hitting Breloom and Ferrothorn on the switch. Rest gives Rotom-W a second life as it's easily worn down by Stealth Rock. Chesto Berry heals off Rest.</p>

    <p>Scizor is the best team(space)mate for Rotom-W, as it forms an incredible Volt-turn VoltTurn core. Rotom-W beats physical walls that switch in(space)to Scizor, like such as Gliscor, Skarmory, and Gyarados, while Scizor beats Ferrothorn and Blissey that switch into Rotom-W. Forretress has great synergy with Rotom-W, as Forretress easily tanks Grass-(hyphen)types attacks, while Forretress also supports Rotom-W with Rapid Spin support, due to Rotom-W switching all the time. Blaziken likes free switches, as well as Rotom-W's ability to beat Talonflame and bulky water types Water-types, while Amoonguss beat'(apostrophe)s Grass-(hyphen)types and helps spread status along with Rotom-W.</p>


    <p>Rotom-Wash @(space)Assault Vest<br />
    Ability: Levitate<br />
    EVs: 232 HP / 56 SAtk SpA / 220 Spd Spe<br />
    Modest Nature (+Spa, -Atk)<br />
    - Volt Switch<br />
    - Discharge<br />
    - Hydro Pump<br />
    - Hidden Power Ice<br />

    <p>This set is slightly more offensive than the last set, packing more of a punch. However, with Assualt Assault Vest, Rotom-W is still very bulky. Volt Switch gains momentum, while Hydro Pump hits Ground-types that dare to switch into Volt Switch. Discharge has a nice 30% chance of a paralysis, and doesn't force you to switch, meaning Rotom-W is the ultimate check to Substitute Gyarados. The Speed EVs are used to out(space)speed max Speed Adamant Mamoswine and all non-(hyphen)Scarfed Scizor, while the HP investment allows Rotom-W to live Garchomp's Banded Outrage. However, a spread of 252 HP / 252 SpD / 4 SAtk / 4 SpA / 252 SpD can be used to become an amazing special tank.</p>

    <p>For this set the team mates don't change too much at all. (you want to avoid this because the sets will change) Scizor is the best team(space)mate for Rotom-W, as it forms an incredible Volt-turn VoltTurn core. Rotom-W beats physical walls that switch in(space)to Scizor, like such as Gliscor, Skarmory, and Gyarados, while Scizor beats Ferrothorn and Blissey that switch into Rotom-W. Forretress has great synergy with Rotom-W, as Forretress easily tanks Grass types -type attacks, while Forretress also supports Rotom-W with Rapid Spin support, due to Rotom-W switching all the time. Blaziken likes free switches, as well as Rotom-W's ability to beat Talonflame and bulky water types Water-types, while Amoonguss beat's Grass types s Grass-types and helps spread status along with Rotom-W.</p>


    <p>Rotom-Wash @ Choice Scarf<br />
    Ability: Levitate<br />
    EVs: 252 Spd / 252 SAtk / 4 SDef 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe<br />
    Timid Nature (+Spe, -Atk)<br />
    - Volt Switch<br />
    - Hydro Pump<br />
    - Hidden Power [Ice] Ice<br />
    - Trick / Thunderbolt <br />

    <p>Rotom-W is a decent Choice Scarf user, mainly because of it'(apostrophe)s access to Volt Switch, Trick, and okay s usable Speed stat. The Speed EVs allow Choice Scarf Rotom-W to outspeed +1 Dragonite, Gyarados, and neutral-(apostrophe)natured Haxorus and Hydreigon. Volt Switch gains momentum, while Hydro Pump allows Rotom-W to revenge kill Fire-(hyphen) and Ground-(hyphen)types like such as Excadrill and Talonflame. Hidden Power Ice is used to hit Dragon-(hyphen) and Grass-(hyphen)types that resist Rotom-W's STAB attacks. Finally, Trick is used to cripple Sspecial walls thinking they can switch into this set, like such as Blissey and Ferrothorn. However, Thunderbolt is an option to allow Rotom-W to stay in and use it'(apostrophe)s Electric-type STAB attacks.</p>

    <p>Scizor is the best team(space)mate for Rotom-W, as it forms an incredible Volt-turn VoltTurn core. Rotom-W beats physical walls that switch in(space)to Scizor, like such as Gliscor, Skarmory, and Gyarados, while Scizor beats Ferrothorn and Blissey that switch into Rotom-W. Since this set is going to be switching a lot, Defog and Rapid Spin support is pretty important, meaning Rotom-W won't get worn down. Skarmory and Scizor are viable users of Defog, and resist Grass-(hyphen)type attacks aimed at Rotom-W. Forretress also resists Grass-(hyphen)type attacks and provides support in the form of Volt Switch.</p>

    [Checks and Counters]

    <p>Bulky Grass-(hyphen)types like such as Chesnaught, Ammonguss, and Venusaur reisst resist both STABs and can switch in with little fear. Gastrodon is immune to Rotom-W's STAB attacks, making it a solid counter. Strong physical attackers can muscle through Rotom-W, so Pokemon like such as Dragonite, Garchomp, and Breloom make for decent checks. Special walls like such as Blissey and Ferrothorn easily take on anything bar Trick.


    gp 1/1 nice job
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    is it possible to get hydro pump before pokebank is released? does anyone know?
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    Like Piikachuu said, im fairly certain blaziken has been banned already. If so, remove him from parts of the analysis

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