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[COMPLETED] Sableye

Discussion in 'XY Previews' started by dragonuser, Oct 25, 2013.

  1. dragonuser

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    [Pros]

    <ul>
    <li>One of the few Prankster Pokemon in OU, with access to Recover, Taunt, and Will-O-Wisp.</li>
    <li>Large amount of immunities.</li>
    </ul>

    [Cons]

    <ul>
    <li>Shallow offensive movepool.</li>
    <li>Overall mediocre stats and is fairly frail.</li>
    <li>Gained a super effective weakness to the Fairy-type.</li>
    </ul>

    [Set Recommendations]

    <p>name: Standard<br />
    move 1: Taunt<br />
    move 2: Will-O-Wisp<br />
    move 3: Recover<br />
    move 4: Foul Play / Confide / Night Shade<br />
    ability: Ability: Prankster<br />
    item: Leftovers<br />
    evs: 248 HP / 188 Def / 72 SpD<br />
    nature: Bold</p>

    <p>The main draw of this set is Sableye's ability, Prankster. This allows any non-attacking move to gain priority, making Sableye a fairly potent stallbreaker and check to many physical Pokemon. Taunt and Will-O-Wisp are the main moves of this set, allowing Sableye to burn Pokemon and force them to take residual damage, then prevent them from recovering the damage taken. Its also important to note that Will-O-Wisp indirectly buffs Sableye's low physical Defense, greatly aiding its longevity. Foul Play is recommended primarily for Talonflame, which otherwise counters this set, as it has a very strong chance to 2HKO the standard spread. Confide helps Sableye offset its low Special Defense by weakening a strong special attacker, further increasing its longevity. Night Shade allows you to bypass Sableye's fairly low offenses and deal consistent damage Pokemon like Ferrothorn and Rotom-W.</p>

    <p>Steel-types such as Excadrill and Scizor make for excellent partners, being able to threaten Fairy-type Pokemon that wall this set. Similarly, Mega Gengar makes for an excellent partner, being able to trap and revenge Fairy-types with its STAB Poison-type attacks. Water-type Pokemon such as Rotom-W and Slowbro also make for good partners, being able to handle notable Fire-type Pokemon such as Talonflame and Blaziken, respectively.</p>

    [Checks and Counters]

    <p>Sableye has a lot of difficulty breaking through Fairy-type Pokemon, such as Togekiss, Florges, and Sylveon. They tend to carry cleric moves, which offsets Sableye's, and all resist Sableye's main attacks and can hit it super effectively with STAB. If Foul Play isn't used, Talonflame hard counters Sableye, as it absorbs Will-O-Wisp and with Gale Wings it can attack before Sableye uses Recover.
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    looks fine, approved 2/3
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    thanks guys
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    Good job man
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    [Pros]

    <ul>
    <li>One of the few Prankster Pokemon in OU with, and has access to Recover, Taunt, and Will-O-Wisp.</li>
    <li>Large amount of immunities and resistances. (actually its only resistance is poison, lol. everything else is neutral, immune, or fairy)</li>
    </ul>

    [Cons]

    <ul>
    <li>Shallow offensive movepool.</li>
    <li>Overall mediocre stats and is fairly frail.</li>
    <li>Gained a Super Effective weakness in the newly introduced Fairy-type. Weak to Fairy-type attacks. (or some other way of putting it that doesn't mention generational shift or have the redundant "super effective weakness" (also super effective should not be capitalized))</li>
    </ul>

    [Set Recommendations]

    <p>Sableye (F) @ Leftovers<br />
    Trait: Prankster<br />
    EVs: 248 HP / 252 Def / 8 SDef SpD<br />
    Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk SpA)<br />
    - Taunt<br />
    - Will-O-Wisp<br />
    - Recover<br />
    - Foul Play / Snarl / Night Shade</p>

    <p>The main crux of this set is Sableye's ability, Prankster. This allows any non attacking move to gain priority, making Sableye a Sableye's ability, Prankster, makes it a fairly potent stallbreaker and check to many physical Pokemon. (don't think the explanation of prankster is needed; if you still want it, you can slip it in with "by allowing..." after "Pokemon.") Taunt and Will-O-Wisp are the main moves of this set, allowing you Sableye to status burn Pokemon and force them to take residual damage, then prevent them from recovering the damage taken. Its also important to note that Will-O-Wisp buffs Sableye's low Physical Defense, greatly aiding its longevity. Foul Play is recommended primarily for Talonflame, who otherwise hard walls this set,(RC) as it and has a very strong chance to 2HKO the standard spread. Snarl helps Sableye offset his low Special Defense by hitting a strong Sspecial Aattacker on the switch and weakening them, further increasing his longevity. Night Shade allows you Sableye to bypass Sableye's its fairly low offenses and deal consistent damage to Pokemon like Ferrothorn and Rotom-W.</p>

    [Checks and Counters]
    Sableye has a lot of difficulty breaking through Fairy-Type Pokemon like such as Togekiss, Florges, and Sylveon. They tend to carry cleric moves, offsetting status spreading, as well as resisting and can resist Sableye's main attacks and can hit him Ssuper Eeffectively with a STAB. If Foul Play isn't used, Talonflame nearly hard walls Sableye as it absorbs Will-O-Wisp and with Gale Wings it can attack before Sableye Recovers.
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    [Pros]

    <ul>
    <li>One of the few Prankster Pokemon in OU, (AC) with, and has access to Recover, Taunt, and Will-O-Wisp.</li>
    <li>Large amount of immunities and resistances.</li>
    </ul>

    [Cons]

    <ul>
    <li>Shallow offensive movepool.</li>
    <li>Overall mediocre stats and is fairly frail.</li>
    <li>Gained a super effective weakness in the newly introduced to the Fairy-type.</li>
    </ul>

    [Set Recommendations]

    <p>Sableye (F) @ Leftovers<br />
    Trait: Prankster<br />
    EVs: 248 HP / 252 Def / 8 SpD<br />
    Impish Nature (+Def, -SpA)<br />
    - Taunt<br />
    - Will-O-Wisp<br />
    - Recover<br />
    - Foul Play / Snarl / Night Shade</p>

    <p>The main crux draw of this set is Sableye's ability, Prankster. This allows any non-attacking move to gain priority, making Sableye a fairly potent stallbreaker and check to many physical Pokemon. Taunt and Will-O-Wisp are the main moves of this set, allowing you Sableye to status Pokemon and force them to take residual damage, then prevent them from recovering the damage taken. It's also important to note that Will-O-Wisp indirectly buffs Sableye's low physical Defense, greatly aiding its longevity. Foul Play is recommended primarily for Talonflame, who which otherwise hard walls counters this set, as it has a very strong chance to 2HKO the standard spread. Snarl helps Sableye offset his its low Special Defense by hitting a strong special attacker on the switch and weakening them, further increasing his its longevity. Night Shade allows you to bypass Sableye's fairly low offenses and deal consistent damage Pokemon like Ferrothorn and Rotom-W.</p>

    [Checks and Counters]
    <p>Sableye has a lot of difficulty breaking through Fairy-type Pokemon, (AC) such as like Togekiss, Florges, and Sylveon. They tend to carry cleric moves, which offsetts Sableye's status spreading, as well as resisting and all resist Sableye's main attacks and can hit it him super effectively with a their STAB. If Foul Play isn't used, Talonflame nearly hard counters walls Sableye, (AC) as it absorbs Will-O-Wisp and with Gale Wings it can attack before Sableye uses Recovers.</p>

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    Thank you, changes implemented
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    Add teammates.
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    Hello Dragonuser, that Sabelye EV spread is inefficient. An EV spread of EVs: 248 HP / 188 Def / 72 SDef Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk) Gives you the same stats of that EV spread listed, but actually gives you 7 extra defense points too.

    Great work otherwise though.
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    You mention Snarl, but Sableye learns Confide. They achieve the same primary purpose of lowering SpA but the latter benefits from Prankster whereas the former is a 55BP attack coming from 65 SpA.

    Easy choice.
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    Yea I guess its a good option, replaced.

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