I noticed that Serperior's Dream World ability is Contrary, and it seems like this is an easily abusable ability. Serperior learns Leaf Storm, which is basically a 140 BP STAB Nasty Plot. Do you think this will impact the metagame? It seems like it would work, but unfortunately Serperior has a very shallow movepool...
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- Thread starter txrules
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Don't forget that his special movepool basically consists of Leaf Storm and Hidden Power.
Twister, Wring out, and Hyper Beam. LOL.
To help with the crappy movepool, I tried giving one Light Clay + Reflect so he could at least throw up a solid screen if given the chance during a switch or something. Seems to be helpful on occasion.
Well, it's got plenty of support moves. Substitute, Leech Seed, Glare, and so on. But offensively it doesn't have much.
And this is why he'll never have a large impact on the metagame.
Even if he can hit most things neutrally with HP, the fact that HP is so weak means he can easily be walled by things that resist his STAB, and remain neutral to his HP.
Leaf Storm's low PP and questionable typing doesn't help either.
Blissey, Heatran, Skarmory and the steel bugs can continuously come in and resist it 4 times. Although only Blissey and Heatran are relatively safe since HP fire is dangerous for Skarmory and the Steel Bugs.
However a good Serperior user will know that it's a late game sweeper, and should know that the only good time to bring it out is when the things that resist it's Hidden Power of choice are either gone or at least weakened to the point where their next Leaf Storm will kill the said counters. Blissey can also be stalled out by Sub Seeding (Serperior ALWAYS wins if it has Sub Seed), and can even be forced out by Dragon Tail for any that carry it.
You also forgot Ferrothorn on your list of counters.
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don't be an ass.
It's not like we can say, "Oh, this is something remotely new. Cool." I mean, it's already been discussed to death in the Perversity and Serperior threads anyway. :/
Shuckle says hai.
taunt
But it's a sweeping Shuckle. Now your intimidate boosts my attack. Though sweeping Shuckle must watch out for Swagger.
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why don't you read existing threads before posting a new one?
why don't you read existing threads before posting a new one?
I've never heard of / seen a sweeping Shuckle before.
He might get D-Meteor in Grey. it seems unlikely though, its never been given out to non dragons.
4th Gen Jirachi comes with it.
4th Gen Jirachi gets it as an event, so... Unlikely. It doesn't need DM, it just needs other special moves.
I prefer Charcoal Assist Liepard- With Prankster, Assist ignores all Speed Drops from V-Generate except vs priority moves, and with Charcoal + a boost from Drought, V-Generate gets 324 base Power.
Sucker Punch can be used on say Latias to stay faster than the competition that resists V-Gen (Shandera, Starmie, Latios), especially luring attacks behind a Substitute, while you could opt for Hone Claws to take advantage of the boosts obtainable after an Encore causes a switch. This way you can switch in on a non-threatening move, Encore, Hone Claws on the switch, and then Substitute against Taunt, status, etc. before hitting with a sun-boosted Assist V-Generate, always going first.
Liepard: @ Charcoal
252 Attack
Adamant
-Assist
-Sucker Punch / Hone Claws
-Encore
-Substitute