Hi C&C:
I am making this thread because there is a bit of chaos on the site about how this is supposed to be done. Let's say a Pokemon, such as Kabutops, has a UU, OU, and Uber analysis. We need to know how to prefix these set names reliably so that they are consistent throughout the website. Right now, we kind of just "do stuff" and no one is the wiser. I don't think that's good enough.
I am proposing the following conventions:
Some people might think that the "main tier" for a Pokemon should never have to be prefixed as an extension to this rule. So, for instance, Kabutops wouldn't need its UU sets prefixed with UU. I disagree with this, however. I feel that because OU is the standard tier, its Pokemon are the only ones whose primary sets are "obviously OU." UU Pokemon do not necessarily work that way. Sometimes people assume (incorrectly), that UU sets are intended for use in OU because they are not currently prefixed. Sure, the intelligent user can figure it out, but we all know that not everyone who uses the sets on-site could be called the brightest light on the runway.
Anyway, what do you guys think of my propositions for these conventions? Do you have other suggestions? Feel free to chime in however you want, as this is something that's important for us to decide and document.
On-Site Pokemon Affected by This:
Clamperl: UU / LC
Exeggutor: UU / Uber
Floatzel: UU / OU
Magmortar: (Listed UU Prefix)
Magneton: (Listed UU Prefix)
Nidoqueen: UU / OU
Quagsire: UU / Uber
Qwilfish: UU / OU
Shiftry: UU / Uber
Walrein: UU / OU
Blissey: OU / Uber
Celebi: OU / Uber
Gengar: OU / Uber
Infernape: OU / Uber
Kingdra: OU / Uber
Lucario: OU / Uber
Magnezone: OU / Uber
Ninjask: OU / Uber
Scizor: OU / Uber
Smeargle: OU / Uber
Cresselia: OU / Uber
Froslass: OU / Uber
Aggron: UU / OU
Donphan: UU / OU
Drapion: UU / OU
Dugtrio: UU / OU
Kabutops: UU / OU / Uber
Lanturn: UU / OU
Ludicolo: UU / OU / Uber
Mesprit: UU / OU
Milotic: UU / OU
Moltres: UU / OU
Nidoking: UU / OU
Registeel: UU / OU
Rhyperior: UU / OU
Sceptile: UU / OU
Slowbro: UU / OU
Uxie: UU / Uber
Weezing: UU / OU
I am making this thread because there is a bit of chaos on the site about how this is supposed to be done. Let's say a Pokemon, such as Kabutops, has a UU, OU, and Uber analysis. We need to know how to prefix these set names reliably so that they are consistent throughout the website. Right now, we kind of just "do stuff" and no one is the wiser. I don't think that's good enough.
I am proposing the following conventions:
The prefixes for tiers should be as follows.
- OU
- Uber
- UU
- LC
The order that sets should be listed is based on the list above, but their primary tier should have its sets listed first
So let's look at Kabutops, for instance. UU would come first because that is its tier, which is what most people are probably thinking about when wanting to use it. After that, it would go "OU" and then "Uber", like how it currently is. LC Pokemon are different, however, especially in the case of something like Snover or Hippopotas. They technically "belong" to the LC tier, so the LC analysis should come first, then UU after.
All sets on Pokemon with analyses for multiple tiers must be prefixed accordingly
This is a pretty radical change from what we currently do, but I think it is the obvious and proper solution. Ludicolo does this perfectly, and look how orderly and easy to follow it is. Kabutops, on the other hand, does not do this. Just look how messy that is. I do think there should be one exception to this rule, however, and that is...
Because the three primary tiers of Smogon are formed around the Standard (OU) tier, OU Pokemon with OU sets and Uber analyses should not have their OU sets prefixed
Why, you might ask? Anything banned in OU goes to Uber, and anything not used enough in OU goes to UU. For this reason, OU is the standard metagame, and is naturally "assumed" when you look at an OU Pokemon's analysis. On these Pokemon, which Lucario is a good example of, you naturally expect all main sets to be OU and that the Uber sets will be prefixed accordingly. We already do this to a major extent, but it is important to list here.
Some people might think that the "main tier" for a Pokemon should never have to be prefixed as an extension to this rule. So, for instance, Kabutops wouldn't need its UU sets prefixed with UU. I disagree with this, however. I feel that because OU is the standard tier, its Pokemon are the only ones whose primary sets are "obviously OU." UU Pokemon do not necessarily work that way. Sometimes people assume (incorrectly), that UU sets are intended for use in OU because they are not currently prefixed. Sure, the intelligent user can figure it out, but we all know that not everyone who uses the sets on-site could be called the brightest light on the runway.
Anyway, what do you guys think of my propositions for these conventions? Do you have other suggestions? Feel free to chime in however you want, as this is something that's important for us to decide and document.
On-Site Pokemon Affected by This:
Clamperl: UU / LC
Exeggutor: UU / Uber
Floatzel: UU / OU
Magmortar: (Listed UU Prefix)
Magneton: (Listed UU Prefix)
Nidoqueen: UU / OU
Quagsire: UU / Uber
Qwilfish: UU / OU
Shiftry: UU / Uber
Walrein: UU / OU
Blissey: OU / Uber
Celebi: OU / Uber
Gengar: OU / Uber
Infernape: OU / Uber
Kingdra: OU / Uber
Lucario: OU / Uber
Magnezone: OU / Uber
Ninjask: OU / Uber
Scizor: OU / Uber
Smeargle: OU / Uber
Cresselia: OU / Uber
Froslass: OU / Uber
Aggron: UU / OU
Donphan: UU / OU
Drapion: UU / OU
Dugtrio: UU / OU
Kabutops: UU / OU / Uber
Lanturn: UU / OU
Ludicolo: UU / OU / Uber
Mesprit: UU / OU
Milotic: UU / OU
Moltres: UU / OU
Nidoking: UU / OU
Registeel: UU / OU
Rhyperior: UU / OU
Sceptile: UU / OU
Slowbro: UU / OU
Uxie: UU / Uber
Weezing: UU / OU