shouldn't u change the evs to 200 SpA and 192 Spe? u keep 11 speed, but u get an extra point in special attack. (15 becomes 16)Aaron'sAerow's Aron wins it, it's a really cool counter. tazz's counter is also cool.
This week's threat is:
Skrelp @ Life Orb
Ability: Adaptability
Level: 5
EVs: 116 HP / 196 SpA / 196 Spe
Modest Nature
- Hydro Pump
- Sludge Wave
- Hidden Power [Fire]
- Icy Wind
Credits to Rowan for the set btw.
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Fixed, HP Fire ruined it and I think the current one is fine. Thanks for catching that one man.
The EVs were wrong in the original post, skrelp hits 12 speed. abra's speed at -1 is also 12 meaning it has to risk a speed tie, so it's not a counter
OK I'm really damn sure that 200 Spe neutral Skrelp hits 12 speed, which would mean that after an Icy Wind, Skrelp and Abra speed tie. So basically there's a 50% chance that Abra outspeeds Skrelp, and given that Abra can't survive a single attack from Skrelp, Abra is not a counter to Skrelp.
edit: Rowan beat me to the punch
Anti-Skrelp (Mantyke) @ Eviolite
Ability: Water Absorb
Level: 5
EVs: 156 HP / 196 Def / 36 SpA / 116 SpD
Calm Nature
- Air Slash
- Rest
- Sleep Talk
- Scald
Look at this jolly little thing. It eats anything Skrelp bothers to throw at it (besides T bolt but not relevant) for breakfast. This special behemoth even enjoys some of Skrelp's attacks. Mantyke will nonchalantly rest in Skrelp's face too making it never die. And while it sleeps, it will burn and flinch Skrelp to death or whatever else they send in once Skrelp cowers in fear back into its pokeball.
200+ SpA Skrelp Sludge Wave vs. 156 HP / 116+ SpD Eviolite Mantyke: 6-7 (26 - 30.4%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Stealth Rock
(6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 7)
36 SpA Mantyke Air Slash vs. 36 HP / 116 SpD Eviolite Skrelp: 6-7 (27.2 - 31.8%) -- guaranteed 4HKO
(6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 7)
You win with rest talk :)
(6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 7)
36 SpA Mantyke Air Slash vs. 36 HP / 116 SpD Eviolite Skrelp: 6-7 (27.2 - 31.8%) -- guaranteed 4HKO
(6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 7)
You win with rest talk :)
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and that one doesn't have Life Orb
200+ SpA Life Orb Adaptability Skrelp Sludge Wave vs. 156 HP / 116+ SpD Eviolite Mantyke: 10-13 (43.4 - 56.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock
rip mantyke
Voting time, to make stuff easier for you guys here are the sets that you can vote for:
sparktrain's Croagunk
The TurtleLord's Frillish
SilentMango's Skrelp
sparktrain's Croagunk
The TurtleLord's Frillish
SilentMango's Skrelp
The TurtleLord
the most durable since it has recover. only fears tbolt.
the most durable since it has recover. only fears tbolt.
Good Morgan
Banned deucer.
SilentMango, because of Chinchous switching into Chinchous
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Lickitung @ Eviolite
Ability: Oblivious
Level: 5
EVs: 196 HP / 76 Atk / 236 SpD
Careful Nature
- Wish
- Protect
- Power Whip
- Knock Off
Can easily switch in on Chinchou, especially with Wish:
232+ SpA Chinchou Hydro Pump vs. 196 HP / 236+ SpD Eviolite Lickitung: 7-10 (25 - 35.7%) -- 15.4% chance to 3HKO
232+ SpA Chinchou Volt Switch vs. 196 HP / 236+ SpD Eviolite Lickitung: 6-7 (21.4 - 25%) -- 0% chance to 4HKO
232+ SpA Chinchou Ice Beam vs. 196 HP / 236+ SpD Eviolite Lickitung: 5-6 (17.8 - 21.4%) -- possible 5HKO
232+ SpA Chinchou Hidden Power Ground vs. 196 HP / 236+ SpD Eviolite Lickitung: 3-4 (10.7 - 14.2%) -- possible 7HKO
232+ SpA Chinchou Volt Switch vs. 196 HP / 236+ SpD Eviolite Lickitung: 6-7 (21.4 - 25%) -- 0% chance to 4HKO
232+ SpA Chinchou Ice Beam vs. 196 HP / 236+ SpD Eviolite Lickitung: 5-6 (17.8 - 21.4%) -- possible 5HKO
232+ SpA Chinchou Hidden Power Ground vs. 196 HP / 236+ SpD Eviolite Lickitung: 3-4 (10.7 - 14.2%) -- possible 7HKO
And OHKOes with Power Whip:
76 Atk Lickitung Power Whip vs. 0 HP / 76 Def Chinchou: 22-26 (91.6 - 108.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock
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Goldeen @ Berry Juice
Ability: Lightningrod
Level: 5
EVs: 220 Atk / 36 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Waterfall
- Megahorn
- Drill Run
- Knock Off
232+ SpA Chinchou Hydro Pump vs. 0 HP / 36 SpD Goldeen: 8-9 (38 - 42.8%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
(8, 8, 8, 8, 8, 8, 8, 8, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9)
That's a 5HKO with Berry Juice.
220 Atk Goldeen Drill Run vs. 0 HP / 52 Def Chinchou: 18-22 (75 - 91.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
(18, 18, 18, 18, 18, 18, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 22)
220 Atk Goldeen Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 0 HP / 52 Def Chinchou: 11-13 (45.8 - 54.1%) -- 31.3% chance to 2HKO
(11, 11, 11, 11, 11, 11, 11, 11, 12, 12, 12, 12, 12, 12, 12, 13)
Goldeen can Knock Off the BJ, then Drill Run for the KO
Beware of using Goldeen vs. Scald variants of Chinchou, burns suck really bad for it.
Max Carvalho
Que os jogos comecem
Munchlax @ Berry Juice
Ability: Thick Fat
Level: 5
EVs: 236 Atk / 36 Def / 236 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Return / Body Slam
- Fire Punch
- Curse
- Recycle
232+ SpA Chinchou Hydro Pump vs. 0 HP / 236 SpD Munchlax: 10-13 (33.3 - 43.3%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Stealth Rock. 236+ Atk Munchlax Return vs. 0 HP / 52 Def Chinchou: 19-24 (79.1 - 100%) -- 81.3% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock. Even if rocks aren't up on the opposing side, Chinchou would likely have some prior damage either way. If you opt for Body Slam be sure to set up at least once in order to KO Chinchou. This thing easily sets up against Chinchou and may later pull a sweep. If Chinchou stays you can just keep Cursing + Recycling and then you destroy the opposing team :]
Snover @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Snow Warning
Level: 5
EVs: 36 HP / 20 Atk / 184 SpA / 36 SpD / 200 Spe
Timid Nature
- Blizzard
- Giga Drain
- Ice Shard
- Hidden Power [Fighting]
Scarf Snover can take any one of Chinchou's STABs and Ice Beams while Giga Draining back its health and possibly OHKOing it.
232+ SpA Chinchou Hydro Pump vs. 36 HP / 36 SpD Snover: 7-9 (30.4 - 39.1%) -- 0.4% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock
(7, 7, 7, 7, 7, 7, 7, 8, 8, 8, 8, 8, 8, 8, 8, 9)
232+ SpA Chinchou Volt Switch vs. 36 HP / 36 SpD Snover: 4-6 (17.3 - 26%) -- 0% chance to 3HKO after Stealth Rock
(4, 4, 4, 5, 5, 5, 5, 5, 5, 5, 5, 5, 5, 5, 5, 6)
232+ SpA Chinchou Ice Beam vs. 36 HP / 36 SpD Snover: 8-10 (34.7 - 43.4%) -- 51.2% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock
(8, 8, 8, 8, 8, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 10)
232+ SpA Chinchou Hidden Power Ground vs. 36 HP / 36 SpD Snover: 2-3 (8.6 - 13%) -- possible 6HKO after Stealth Rock
(2, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3)
184 SpA Snover Giga Drain vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Chinchou: 20-26 (83.3 - 108.3%) -- 75% chance to OHKO
(20, 20, 20, 20, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 26)
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