Project Counter that Threat! 21st Week: Snover - Counters Submissions

[Yagura]

Approved by blarajan
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taken over from DTC

Counter that Pokémon aims to serve as a discussion thread to find counter for the top threats of the LC metagame, especially potential suspects. Each week a popular Pokémon set that is threatening and really powerful will be chosen by I (or another person I choose or one of the staff in case I'm not present) and people will discuss how to deal with that specific threat in terms of checking, countering, revenge killing, preparing, and other concepts like that. If you don't know what a counter is then this article is going to help you. Don't forget to explain your set and describe how it would handle the topic Pokemon in different situations. This project is also a great way to get noticed for the shiny Community Contributor badge if you write some good posts.

Rules:

- DO NOT BREAK THE FORUM RULES.
- You may only post one answering set for the topic Pokémon, you can't also edit your Pokémon so think wisely before posting.
- If you reserve something make sure to post it 12 hours max after posting a reservation, if you don't do so the Pokémon that you reserved would be able to be chosen by other users.
- Use common sense and avoid gimmicks, I don't want to see stuff like Choice Specs Mienfoo suggested.
- Avoid using slashes as you should only concentrate at checking / countering the topic Pokémon and nothing else.
- You may only vote once, don't change your vote.

- During the voting phase you can discuss the sets and try to convince other people, but remember you can not change your vote and remember there is a deadline so always vote before it.

Good luck and happy posting.​

Past Pokémon:

1st week: Sub LO Abra

Abra (M) @ Life Orb
Ability: Magic Guard
Level: 5
EVs: 240 SpA / 200 Spe
Timid Nature
- Substitute
- Psychic
- Hidden Power [Fighting]
- Dazzling Gleam


What counters it: By: Obvious Power

@ Eviolite
Ability: Aftermath
Level: 5
EVs: 92 Atk / 220 Def / 188 SpD
Careful Nature
- Pursuit
- Sucker Punch
- Defog
- Filler

2nd week: Life Orb Mienfoo

Mienfoo (F) @ Life Orb
Ability: Reckless
EVs: 236 Atk / 36 Def / 236 Spe
Jolly Nature
- High Jump Kick
- Knock Off
- Rock Slide / Stone Edge
- Poison Jab

What counters it: By: zeriloa

Ekans @ Eviolite
Ability: Intimidate
Level: 5
EVs: 236 HP / 36 Atk / 168 Def / 12 SpD
Impish Nature
- Gunk Shot
- Glare
- Earthquake
- Sucker Punch

3rd week: Offensive Archen

Archen (F) @ Berry Juice
Ability: Defeatist
Level: 5
EVs: 180 Atk / 76 Def / 196 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Acrobatics
- Knock Off
- Earthquake
- Rock Slide

What counters it: By: The TurtleLord

Shellos (F) @ Eviolite
Ability: Sticky Hold
Level: 5
EVs: 228 HP / 212 Def / 60 SpA / 8 Spe
Bold Nature
- Scald
- Recover
- Earth Power
- Toxic

4th week: Life Orb Bunnelby

Bunnelby @ Life Orb
Ability: Huge Power
Level: 5
Happiness: 0
EVs: 228 Atk / 52 Def / 220 Spe
Jolly Nature
IVs: 23 HP
- Frustration
- Quick Attack
- Earthquake
- Wild Charge

What counters it: By Aerow

Pumpkaboo-Super @ Berry Juice / Eviolite
Ability: Frisk
Level: 5
EVs: 204 HP / 196 Def / 76 SpD / 28 Spe
Careful Nature
- Will-O-Wisp
- Leech Seed
- Shadow Sneak
- Seed Bomb

5th week: Shell Smash Omanyte

Omanyte @ Eviolite
Ability: Shell Armor
EVs: 76 HP / 196 SpA / 236 Spe
Modest Nature
- Shell Smash
- Hydro Pump
- Earth Power
- Ice Beam

What counters it: By Goddess Briyella:

Slowpoke @ Eviolite
Ability: Regenerator
Level: 5
EVs: 196 HP / 120 SpA / 116 SpD
Modest Nature
- Scald
- Thunder Wave
- Slack Off
- Hidden Power [Grass]

6th week: Life Orb Gastly

Gastly (M) @ Life Orb
Ability: Levitate
Level: 5
EVs: 80 Atk / 200 SpA / 200 Spe
Naive Nature
- Shadow Ball
- Sludge Bomb
- Hidden Power [Fighting]
- Sucker Punch

What counters it: By The TurtleLord:

Stunky (M) @ Eviolite
Ability: Aftermath
Level: 5
EVs: 92 HP / 220 Def / 188 SpD / 4 Spe
Careful Nature
- Defog
- Fire Blast/Crunch
- Pursuit
- Sucker Punch

7th week: Timburr

Timburr @ Eviolite
Ability: Guts
EVs: 76 HP / 196 Atk / 76 Def / 156 SpD
Impish Nature
- Drain Punch
- Knock Off
- Mach Punch
- Poison Jab

What counters it, by Fiend Hound

Ekans @ Eviolite
Ability: Intimidate
Level: 5
EVs: 236 HP / 168 Def / 36 SpA / 12 SpD
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Giga Drain
- Acid Spray
- Sleep Talk
- Rest

8th week: SD Drilbur

Drilbur @ Eviolite
Ability: Mold Breaker
Level: 5
EVs: 236 Atk / 60 Def / 212 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Earthquake
- Rock Slide
- Poison Jab
- Swords Dance

What counters it: By Tahu:

Pumpkaboo-Super @ Eviolite
Ability: Frisk
Level: 5
EVs: 204 HP / 116 Def / 156 SpD
Impish Nature
- Will-O-Wisp
- Bullet Seed
- Shadow Sneak
- Destiny Bond

By Eren Yeagar:

Shellder @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Skill Link
Level: 5
EVs: 36 HP / 236 Atk / 36 Def / 196 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Icicle Spear
- Rock Blast
- Razor Shell
- Ice Shard

9th week: Mixed Croagunk

Croagunk @ Eviolite
Ability: Dry Skin
EVs: 132 HP / 28 Atk / 116 Def / 108 SpA / 116 SpD
Quiet Nature
- Drain Punch
- Sludge Bomb
- Vacuum Wave
- Knock Off

Counter by Shrug:

Shellos @ Eviolite
Trait: Sticky Hold
Nature: Bold
Evs: 228 Hp / 132 Def / 100 SpD / 4 Spe
- Scald
- Earth Power
- Recover
- Yawn
Shellos takes nothing from Crogunk, Sludge Bomb is 37% max, and kills it (eventually) with Earth Power. This is better than all of the other counters because it isn't crippled by a Knock Off so it can be used later in the game as well

10th week: Shell Smash Shellder

Shellder @ Eviolite
Ability: Skill Link
Level: 5
EVs: 236 Atk / 76 SpD / 196 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Shell Smash
- Icicle Spear
- Rock Blast
- Razor Shell

Counter by tazz:

Chinchou @ Berry Juice
Ability: Volt Absorb
EVs: 76 HP/ 212 def/ 148 SpD / 60 Spe
Bold Nature
- Volt switch
- Scald
- Hidden Power Ground/ Ice Beam
- Heal Bell

11th week: Swords Dance LO Pawniard

Pawniard @ Life Orb
Ability: Defiant
Level: 5
EVs: 236 Atk / 36 Def / 36 SpD / 196 Spe
Jolly Nature
IVs: 0 HP
- Swords Dance
- Knock Off
- Iron Head
- Sucker Punch

Counter by kingmidas

Mienfoo @ Eviolite
Level: 5
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 196 Def / 36 SpD / 236 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Drain Punch
- Knock Off
- U-turn
- Acrobatics

12th week: Special Sunny Day Ponyta

Ponyta @ Eviolite
Level: 5
Ability: Flame Body
EVs: 236 SpA / 76 SpD / 196 Spe
Timid Nature
- Sunny Day
- Fire Blast
- Solar Beam
- Morning Sun

Counter by Rowan

Ponyta @ Eviolite
Ability: Flame Body
Level: 5
EVs: 76 Atk / 236 Def / 196 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Flare Blitz
- Will-O-Wisp
- Toxic
- Morning Sun

13th week: Mixed Fletchling

Fletchling
Ability: Gale Wings
Level: 5
EVs: 156 HP / 200 Atk / 92 Def / 40 SpA / 20 Spe
Naughty Nature
- Acrobatics
- Overheat
- Roost
- Hidden Power [Grass]

Counter by Aerow:

Aron @ Berry Juice / Eviolite
Ability: Rock Head
Level: 5
EVs: 36 HP / 196 Atk / 116 Def / 116 SpD / 36 Spe
Impish Nature
- Head Smash
- Heavy Slam
- Superpower
- Rock Polish

14th week: skrelp

Skrelp @ Life Orb
Ability: Adaptability
Level: 5
EVs: 36 HP / 36 Def / 200 SpA / 36 SpD / 200 Spe
Modest Nature
- Hydro Pump
- Sludge Wave
- Hidden Power [Fire]
- Icy Wind

Counter by @sparktrain:

Croagunk @ Eviolite
Level: 5
Ability: Dry Skin
EVs: 52 HP / 188 Atk / 116 Def / 116 SpD / 36 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Drain Punch
- Gunk Shot
- Knock Off
- Earthquake

15th week: Chinchou

Chinchou @ Berry Juice
Ability: Volt Absorb
Level: 5
EVs: 52 Def / 232 SpA / 220 Spe
Modest Nature
- Hydro Pump
- Volt Switch
- Ice Beam
- Hidden Power [Ground]

silly Counter by Rowan:

Goldeen @ Berry Juice
Ability: Lightningrod
Level: 5
EVs: 220 Atk / 36 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Waterfall
- Megahorn
- Drill Run
- Knock Off

16th week: SD Corphish

Corphish @ Eviolite
Level: 5
Ability: Adaptability
EVs: 196 Atk / 76 Def / 236 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Crabhammer
- Knock Off
- Aqua Jet
- Swords Dance

Counter by Sken:

Croagunk @ Eviolite
Ability: Dry Skin
Level: 5
EVs: 52 HP / 116 Def / 188 SpA / 116 SpD / 36 Spe
Modest Nature
- Sludge Bomb
- Vacuum Wave
- Shadow Ball
- Nasty Plot

17th week: Pancham

Pancham @ Eviolite
Ability: Mold Breaker
Level: 5
EVs: 140 HP / 180 Atk / 100 Def / 52 SpD / 12 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Knock Off
- Drain Punch
- Gunk Shot
- Zen Headbutt
Counter by fitzy72:

Growlithe @ Eviolite
Level: 5
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 236 HP / 156 Def / 116 SpD
Impish Nature
- Will-O-Wisp
- Flare Blitz
- Morning Sun
- Wild Charge

18th week: Aipom

Aipom @ Life Orb
Level: 5
Ability: Skill Link
EVs: 76 HP / 196 Atk / 236 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Fury Swipes
- Knock Off
- Brick Break
- Fake Out

counter by fitzy72:

Tirtouga @ Eviolite
Level: 5
Ability: Solid Rock
EVs: 84 HP / 252 Def / 12 SpA / 156 SpD
Sassy Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Scald
- Stone Edge
- Aqua Jet

LO Vulpix

Vulpix @ Life Orb
Ability: Drought
Level: 5
EVs: 36 Def / 196 SpA / 236 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 23 HP
- Overheat
- Fire Blast
- Energy Ball
- Extrasensory
Counter by apt-get:

Houndour @ Eviolite
Ability: Flash Fire
Level: 5
EVs: 76 HP / 36 Atk / 116 SpA / 36 SpD / 236 Spe
Hasty Nature
- Nasty Plot
- Dark Pulse
- Fire Blast
- Sucker Punch

 

[Yagura]

Sub Life Orb Abra

Abra (M) @ Life Orb
Ability: Magic Guard
Level: 5
EVs: 240 SpA / 200 Spe
Timid Nature
- Substitute
- Psychic
- Hidden Power [Fighting]
- Dazzling Gleam

One of the biggest threats in the metagame at the moment Sub Life Orb Abra is one of the best special attackers in LC with high SAtk, hitting 19 speed tier and getting no recoil from Life Orb and hazards thanks to Magic Guard it proved itself to be really hard to deal with.

Good luck, submitting ends in Friday morning GMT. You shall now post!

 

[OP]

Stunky @ Eviolite
Ability: Aftermath
Level: 5
EVs: 92 Atk / 220 Def / 188 SpD
Careful Nature
- Pursuit
- Sucker Punch
- Defog
- Filler

The standard bulky Stunky spread I believe. Abra can't really touch it and pursuit OHKOs, even if Abra stays in. Defog will only help the stunky user, as Abra doesn't take hazard damage. Not much to the set, pretty standard stuff.

 

[zf]

Munchlax @ Eviolite
Ability: Thick Fat
Level: 5
EVs: 76 HP / 76 Atk / 116 Def / 236 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Body Slam
- Pursuit
- Rest
- Sleep Talk

Munchlax is never 2HKO'd by any of Abra's moves (bar Psyshock, but who runs that ?_?) after SR and OHKOes back with Body Slam 100% of the time. Pursuit also OHKOes Abra on the switch. RestTalk provides some recovery to last the whole match. The defensive EVs provide Eviolite numbers, but transferring 80 EVs from defense to attack gives Munch a 75% chance to OHKO Abra with Pursuit after it has subbed once, so if you don't care about Eviolite numbers at all, that's a possible change.

Calcs

76+ Atk Munchlax Body Slam vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Abra: 19-24 (100 - 126.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO

76+ Atk Munchlax Pursuit vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Abra: 12-16 (63.1 - 84.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

76+ Atk Munchlax Pursuit (80 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Abra: 24-30 (126.3 - 157.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO

236 SpA Life Orb Abra Psychic vs. 76 HP / 236 SpD Eviolite Munchlax: 9-13 (29 - 41.9%) -- 100% chance to 3HKO after Stealth Rock

236 SpA Life Orb Abra Hidden Power Fighting vs. 76 HP / 236 SpD Eviolite Munchlax: 10-13 (32.2 - 41.9%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Stealth Rock

236 SpA Life Orb Abra Dazzling Gleam vs. 76 HP / 236 SpD Eviolite Munchlax: 6-8 (19.3 - 25.8%) -- 2.2% chance to 4HKO after Stealth Rock

236 SpA Life Orb Abra Psychic vs. 76 HP / 236 SpD Eviolite Munchlax: 9-13 (29 - 41.9%) -- 99% chance to 3HKO

236 SpA Life Orb Abra Hidden Power Fighting vs. 76 HP / 236 SpD Eviolite Munchlax: 10-13 (32.2 - 41.9%) -- 17.6% chance to 3HKO

236 SpA Life Orb Abra Dazzling Gleam vs. 76 HP / 236 SpD Eviolite Munchlax: 6-8 (19.3 - 25.8%) -- 0% chance to 4HKO

 

[Yagura]

ZoroarkForever Obvious Power

Tagging both of you to say that I replaced Shadow ball with Dazzling Gleam, I thought I changed it when I posted but apparently I didn't click "Save Changes" and I changed it few seconds after OP posted his set, I'm sorry about the mistake u_u

 

[Bughouse]

Wynaut @ Berry Juice
Ability: Shadow Tag
Level: 5
EVs: 236 HP / 132 Def / 132 SpD
Bold Nature
- Encore
- Mirror Coat
- Counter
- Destiny Bond

240 SpA Life Orb Abra Dazzling Gleam vs. 236 HP / 132 SpD Wynaut: 12-14 (41.3 - 48.2%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
240 SpA Life Orb Abra Psychic vs. 236 HP / 132 SpD Wynaut: 10-12 (34.4 - 41.3%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

 

[The Avalanches]

Stunky @ Eviolite
Trait: Aftermath
EVs: 12 HP / 92 Atk / 108 SpD / 244 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Pursuit
- Sucker Punch
- Poison Jab
- Defog

Once Stunky is in, it's all over for Abra, as its attacks will barely hurt Stunky. While Sucker Punch can be played around with sub, Pursuit means Abra can't leave.

Edit: nvm OP 2 fast.

 

[Yagura]

I forgot to add one rule and it's that you can't change your check/counter so always think wisely before posting (this doesn't apply to reservations though), this also won't apply to avs and OP posts because of the previous misunderstanding :)

 

[Fiend]

Lickitung, I reserve Lickitung

Lickitung @ Eviolite
Ability: Oblivious
Level: 5
EVs: 196 HP / 76 Def / 236 SpD
Careful Nature
- Knock Off
- Wish
- Protect
- Heal Bell

So you switch into Abra, go for Wish then either Protect or Knock Off depending on the roll / SR. Then you WishTect (if need) until you get a Knock Off on Abra, killing it. Fairly simple

Calcs

0 Atk Lickitung Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Abra: 22-26 (115.7 - 136.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO

236 SpA Life Orb Abra Hidden Power Fighting vs. 196 HP / 236+ SpD Eviolite Lickitung: 10-13 (35.7 - 46.4%) -- 0.4% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock

236 SpA Life Orb Abra Psychic vs. 196 HP / 236+ SpD Eviolite Lickitung: 9-13 (32.1 - 46.4%) -- 11.3% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock

236 SpA Life Orb Abra Psychic vs. 196 HP / 236+ SpD Eviolite Lickitung: 9-13 (32.1 - 46.4%) -- 100% chance to 3HKO

236 SpA Life Orb Abra Hidden Power Fighting vs. 196 HP / 236+ SpD Eviolite Lickitung: 10-13 (35.7 - 46.4%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

 

[gali]

Honedge @ Eviolite
Ability: No Guard
Level: 5
EVs: 156 HP / 196 Atk / 140 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Swords Dance/Automotize
- Shadow Sneak
- Sacred Sword
- Iron Head

Basically, Honedge gives zero fucks about the given set, being able to comfortably switch into any move and OHKO with Shadow Sneak.
196+ Atk Honedge Shadow Sneak vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Abra: 20-26 (105.2 - 136.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO
it even beats LO Shadow ball most of the time.
240 SpA Life Orb Abra Shadow Ball vs. 156 HP / 140 SpD Eviolite Honedge: 18-23 (78.2 - 100%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock

 

[Vileman]

Spritzee @ Eviolite
Ability: Aroma Veil
Level: 5
EVs: 212 HP / 36 Def / 12 SpA / 236 SpD / 12 Spe
Calm Nature
- Wish
- Protect
- Moonblast
- Calm Mind
ok so my specially defensive spritzee set tanks all hits comfortably:
236 SpA Life Orb Abra Psychic vs. 212 HP / 236+ SpD Eviolite Spritzee: 9-13 (33.3 - 48.1%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
And can proceed to set up calm minds with the proper care of not getting into range n_n

 

[zeriloa]

Slowpoke @ Eviolite
Ability: Regenerator
Level: 5
EVs: 196 HP / 116 Def / 196 SpD
Calm Nature
- Scald
- Slack Off
- Psychic
- Thunder Wave

without Shadow Ball Abra can't do much to Slowpoke at all, with this spread it only has an 11% chance to 3hko with Dazzling Gleam while Slowpoke can comfortably spam Slack Off and wear it down with Scald. With Slack Off and Regenerator Poke has no trouble keeping healthy to check it throughout the match. If real you can run 76 Attack EVs and Aqua Tail to have a good chance to outright OHKO Abra.

 

[Corporal Levi]

reserving bronzor

Bronzor @ Berry Juice
Ability: Levitate
Level: 5
EVs: 60 HP / 4 Atk / 228 Def / 4 SpA / 148 SpD / 20 Spe
Sassy Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Flash Cannon
- Earthquake
- Recycle

236 SpA Life Orb Abra Hidden Power Fighting vs. 220 HP / 148+ SpD Bronzor: 6-9 (24 - 36%) -- 82.5% chance to 3HKO after Stealth Rock
(6, 8, 8, 8, 8, 8, 8, 8, 8, 8, 8, 8, 8, 8, 8, 9)
4 Atk Bronzor Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Abra: 9-11 (47.3 - 57.8%) -- 85.9% chance to 2HKO
(9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 11)

Two HP Fightings pops Berry Juice. Bronzor can set up Stealth Rock, Recycle back its Berry Juice, and finally 2HKO with Earthquake at its leisure. To KO, Abra will need two HP Fighting crits in a row, and at least one of them will have to be a 1/16 max roll.
Bronzor is also able to set up Stealth Rock against a good portion of the metagame due to its good bulk and can check Bunnelby, so it's not wholly a dead weight outside of Abra.

By the way, Wynaut is a really soft check -
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/lc-153933625
It can't actually win 1v1, let alone switch in, so it'll have to engage in risky Encore predictions for a teammate to get in safely.

 

[Slashari]

Gothita @ Eviolite
Ability: Shadow Tag
Level: 5
EVs: 240 SpA / 80 SpD / 160 Spe
Modest Nature
- Thunderbolt
- Dark Pulse
- Psychic
- Hidden Power [Fighting]

Gothita can avoid the 2HKO from Dazzling Gleam, Abra's strongest move against it, and proceed to OHKO depending on rolls with Dark Pulse. Even if Dark Pulse doesn't get a max roll, Gothita can take another hit and KO next turn.

If Goth comes in as Abra subs, it can still win, as illustrated by this replay.

Relevant Calcs:
240+ SpA Gothita Dark Pulse vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Abra: 16-20 (84.2 - 105.2%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKO
236 SpA Life Orb Abra Dazzling Gleam vs. 0 HP / 80 SpD Eviolite Gothita: 8-10 (38 - 47.6%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

 

[sparktrain]

Seel @ Life Orb
Ability: Thick Fat
Level: 5
EVs: 76 HP / 236 Atk / 196 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Fake Out
- Aqua Jet
- Icicle Spear
- Drill Run

I've always been a firm believer that Seel can be hand tailored to defeat any threat in the metagame.

Anyway, if Seel comes in on an attacking move, it wins with Fake Out + Aqua Jet

240 SpA Life Orb Abra Psychic vs. 76 HP / 196 SpD Seel: 17-21 (70.8 - 87.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
240 SpA Life Orb Abra Dazzling Gleam vs. 76 HP / 196 SpD Seel: 10-13 (41.6 - 54.1%) -- 47.3% chance to 2HKO
240 SpA Life Orb Abra Hidden Power Fighting vs. 76 HP / 196 SpD Seel: 8-10 (33.3 - 41.6%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
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236+ Atk Life Orb Seel Fake Out vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Abra: 8-10 (42.1 - 52.6%) -- 9.8% chance to 2HKO
236+ Atk Life Orb Seel Aqua Jet vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Abra: 12-16 (63.1 - 84.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

If Seel comes in on a Sub, no worries. Use Icicle Spear + Aqua Jet (Abra doesn't die to two Aqua Jets if the first one hits a sub).

236+ Atk Life Orb Seel Icicle Spear (2 hits) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Abra: 10-12 (52.6 - 63.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Drill Run is on the set to deal heavy damage to Croagunk/Chinchou switch ins.

 

[trash]

Beldum @ Berry Juice
Ability: Clear Body
Level: 5
EVs: 36 HP / 156 Atk / 116 Def / 196 SpD
Careful Nature
- Iron Head
- Headbutt
- Zen Headbutt

Wins 1v1 and if abra is in a sub.

236 SpA Life Orb Abra Hidden Power Fighting vs. 36 HP / 196+ SpD Beldum: 8-10 (38 - 47.6%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
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156 Atk Beldum Iron Head vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Abra: 16-19 (84.2 - 100%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKO

 

[Max Carvalho]

Reserving Ferroseed.

 

[Max Carvalho]

Nah forget Ferro, Pumpkin is queen.

Pumkaboo-Super
@ Eviolite *could be BJ*
Level: 5
Ability: Frisk
EVs: 44 HP / 148 Atk / 116 Def / 156 SpDef / 28 Spd
Impish Nature
-Shadow Sneak
-Leech Seed
-Will-O-Wisp
-Bullet Seed

Shadow Sneak KOes, Abra can't KO with anything. Even Shadow Ball wouldn't KO. What if Abra sets up Substitute? Then Bullet Seed is aiming for the KO assuming 3 hits.
Pumkaboo is not only Abra counter but it can also spinblock with ease against the most common spinner, Drilbur.
All hail the pumpkin.

 

[Bughouse]

By the way, Wynaut is a really soft check -
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/lc-153933625
It can't actually win 1v1, let alone switch in, so it'll have to engage in risky Encore predictions for a teammate to get in safely.

You always encore turn 1? ...

 

[KS2]

dreaded priority seel conquers all

 

[Mister Magnus]

If we considered that Abra can carries Shadowball and i have seen a lot of HPFire Abra(PS ladder) I think the only absolutely great checks for it are stuff like Munchlax or Porygon. dunno I´m sorry if I made a stupid observation lol

 

[boo836]

Drowzee @ Eviolite
Ability: Insomnia
Level: 5
EVs: 196 HP / 156 Def / 12 SpA / 116 SpD / 28 Spe
Bold Nature
- Wish
- Protect
- Calm Mind
- Psyshock

Damn good check to Abra, also serves as a pretty good stallbreaker/supporter/Foongus check. However, the issue of it being Pawn/ Stunky bait sorta hurts this guy's potential ;-;

236 SpA Life Orb Abra Dazzling Gleam vs. 196 HP / 0+ SpD Eviolite Drowzee: 6-9 (24 - 36%) -- 15.4% chance to 3HKO

12 SpA Drowzee Psyshock vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Abra: 6-7 (31.5 - 36.8%) -- 17.6% chance to 3HKO

 

[kingmidas]

Can sr pls be mandatory damage factored in for calcs? it accounts for reasonable prior damage.

 

[Yagura]

Can sr be mandatory damage factored in, as it accounts for reasonable prior damage.

This. Yes, having hazards up on both sides should be considered for naming a counter or a check and a lot of the sets nominated by people here didn't consider that!!

Anyways, I should also say that the current week has only one set to see how stuff would go, and if I put Abra as a topic in general with its whole coverage moves and the Sash set then most of the counters nominated won't be valid. So yeah, like I said this only applies to this week that was a test week but in the next week I'll name a Pokémon and list some of its common sets and moves then you should nominated a Pokémon that can counter/check all its viable sets.

 

[Slashari]

If we considered that Abra can carries Shadowball and i have seen a lot of HPFire Abra(PS ladder) I think the only absolutely great checks for it are stuff like Munchlax or Porygon. dunno I´m sorry if I made a stupid observation lol

We're using the set posted in the second post, which doesn't run Shadow Ball. Also, Stunky is a great counter to Abra as well. There are quite a few checks to Abra since it's so frail, but not as many counters.