Hum, cool, I understand now, thanks.
Yeah I thought of kangaskhan more, he's pretty weak. Maybe try a slower but stronger pokemon, add a sticky web, some reflect/light screen and memento Uxie, stealth rock(for focus sashes) and hope for the best. I'm still trying it out in UU. I'll post the final product when done :D ( Don't forget shell smash!)
You could probably fit Defog on the set as well, which gives it another niche over Dragonite since it may very well work as a hazard control pokemon. I've played with this set before on PO UU, probably the better set would be Wish/Protect/Defog/Dtail or DBreath (lol para!) Protect does seem inferior to Roost at first glance but Salamence's typing is a double-edged sword and scouting an ice move from the likes of Keldeo and stuff may very well give your team a very solid member due to having a pretty long lifespan while playing with it.alright so b4 u call me out on this i have had solid testing w/ it
Salamence @ Leftovers
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 248 HP / 204 SpD / 56 Spe
Careful Nature
- Wish/Defog
- Roost
- Earthquake/Aerial Ace/Dragon Claw
- Dragon Tail/Aerial Ace/Dragon Claw
basically wishmence. what the set does is that it can be fitted to your teams needs, with the only necessity being roost. it can beat some really big threats such as lando, keldeo, zard y, subDD mega gyara, and it can check some other threats depending on which moves you choose. speed jumps heracross, which can otherwise destroy the set w/ rock blast. sure, you may be saying "cbbnite is better" but hear me out. salamence has intimidate, wish, and speed to beat heracross. while the set does face competition from cbbnite, it has the niche of wish+intimidate. intimidate allows it to consistently wish, and the ability to counter lando, keldeo, and zard y, allows it to wish on them so it is consistent in the wishing department. the offensive presence it exerts also forces switches and allows it to wish then as well. so yes, this set may be a bit retarded/outdated, but i think it works well enough.
What are the spreads for in particular? What is it meant to live and what is it meant to kill? It can only check +1 M-Gyara cause M-Gyara outspeeds. This set seems pretty interesting. Do you have any replays showing off this mon in particular?
Besides Venu, none of those are OU and none of those would be used on a serious team.
On the contrary, Celebi and Chesnaught are ranked B and B- in the viability ranking thread, respectively. Chesnaught saw usage in WCoP as well, not sure if Celebi did but I've seen it put to good use in upper ladder matches. Usage != viability.
252+ Atk Technician Breloom Mach Punch vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Chesnaught: 67-81 (17.6 - 21.3%) -- possible 7HKO after Leftovers recovery
Without SD, theres no way you can OHKO Mega Saur. You pretty much need Bullet Seed/ Mach Punch, so I decided against running Spore.
Should of done my fact checking :/
Well it's a PHYSICLLY defensive mon vs a PHYSICAL attacker. That's like saying that you should carry Focus Blast on Heatran for Chansey. (Plus most Heatran run Stone Edge for Zard/Tal... This is where my anology dies)
which is why it's a counter. Why try work around a counter when it makes the set less viable? Sure you suprise them, but chances are you'll be KO'd by Sludge Bomb/Psychic/Wutever
lol you're missing the entire purpose of the set
Err, nobody uses Crobat anyways... And any Scarfer with above 60 Speed outspeeds it, Salac Berry is +1 and Choice Scarf is +1. Plus, that set is very inconsistent and really outclassed by any other set up sweeper. Azumarill, for example, outclasses it in Belly Drum (although, AV is still better). Not a very good set, but just posting to clarify this.
