This is a Cryogonal discussion! Everyone knows Spikes is a very powerful move in UU and can only be dealt with by three things - Magic Bounce users, not using many grounded Pokemon and of course Rapid Spin. I want to talk about Rapid Spin, specifically Rapid Spin on Cyrogonal. The on site analysis is really questionable not being able to properly deal with things you would expect it to, like Zapdos or Nidoking or Roserade without taking a serious chunk of health while also being incredibly weak. There are clear benefits to using Cryogonal over other spinners in UU, particularly its Levitate ability and good special powers - both offensively and defensively. One set that abuses this is... Timid: 252 HP, 252 Spe, 4 SpA (Life Orb) ~Ice Beam ~Hidden Power Ground ~Rapid Spin ~Recover Max HP allows for good special bulk, to the point where things like Zapdos won't be able to OHKO you without Choice Specs but doesn't do much for your physical bulk still. Life Orb adds lots of power, giving you more strength than max special attack Froslass even so you can reliably OHKO Nidoking, Zapdos, and Roserade before they can even touch you! It also helps against Sub+CM users, namely Raikou so your Ice Beam is strong enough to take out its Sub even after a CM boost if they try to set up on you. HP Ground is useful to take out Fire Pokemon, namely Chandelure who could block your Rapid Spin and isquite unexpected. It won't OHKO though without serious special attack invesment. Calm: 252 HP, 252 SpD, 4 Def ~Ice Beam ~Rapid Spin ~Recover ~Toxic/Haze If its on site it must be somewhat good right?!?! This now has loads of special bulk right behind Umbreon in that sense while still having good attacking power because Ice Beam is just so good. unfortunately you won't be OHKOing much nor will you be a true counter to most special attackers, Raikou and Suicune can just set up on you. Unless you use Haze! Of course the base 30 defense isn't helping Cryo tank anything but thats why you get six Pokemon I guess. Looking at Cryogonal we can see he likes to be on a team weak to Spikes and lacking special bulk. It probably wouldn't hurt to add physically defensive Pokemon like Gligar or something and something that resists Fire/Rock/Fighting moves. Because most SR users can KO Crygonal and Cyro himself is weak to SR it may be unwise to use Cryo on a team that needs to spin SR only. So what partners do you think should go with Crygonal and what set should we be running? And am I missing anything big?!?!