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Defense and Special Defense Tiers

Discussion in 'Pokémetrics' started by Dragontamer, Jul 15, 2007.

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Note: Early September, this first post got screwed up somehow. I worked again to restore the defense table and as of September 16, I've rewritten the entire first post.

What is a Defense Tier?
Quite simply, I've combined the HP and Defense score of every pokemon into a single number. The higher the number, the stronger the pokemon is defensively. The weakest pokemon on this scale is Pichu at tier 98, and the strongest is Regirock at tier 123. All other pokemon except Shedinja fall in this scale. In Special Defense, Magikarp is the weakest at tier 99, and Blissey is the strongest at 128.

A Defense Tier holds a lot of information, but the easiest way to use them is to just compare the two numbers. The higher the number, the more defense that pokemon has. I'll talk about more advanced tricks later.

How much Math do I need to know to use Defense Tiers?
You only need to know addition and subtraction to do most advanced stuff with Defense Tiers. Just add and subtract. As for the level of math that was used to create the Defense Tier list, it is High School level math. Specifically... logarithms. Again, you don't need to know logarithms to use this list.

How do I get a Defense Tier for other EV spreads?
The table below lists the defense tiers for 0/0 and 252/252 +Nature EV spreads. This way, you get the minimum and maximum scores for all pokemon in a single chart. However, there are many more EV Spreads than that.

The easiest way to calculate a custom defense tier is to load the Shoddybattle Plugin into shoddybattle. Load it up in the "plugin" menu, and then click on "Calculate Defense Tier" and you've got it.

For those who don't have Shoddybattle, the formula just requires High School math to understand. It is log1.1(HP * Defense) or log1.1(HP * Sp. Defense). To calculate this on your computer, open up windows calculator, and do HP * Defense (or Sp. Def), hit the "log" button, and then divide by the magic number 0.041392685.

For example, 0/0 Blissey has 651 HP and 306 Sp. Def. 651 * 306 is 199206. Then hit the "log" button, and you get 5.299302... Then divide by .041392685 and you get 128.025..., which was rounded up to 128.03 on the chart.

There are a lot of complicated cases in Pokemon. Fortunately, the nature of defense tiers makes things much simpler to calculate.

For example, lets say you are building a sandstorm team and you want to know who is better: Cradily or Blissey. Normally, these totally different pokemon would be very difficult to compare. Cradily gains 50% Sp. Def in a Sandstorm. Cradily pumps up defenses faster with Barrier, Amnesia or Stockpile. Blissey gets Calm Mind, Defense Curl and better defenses from the get-go. Cradily is weak to ice, fighting, bug and steel. Cradily gains resistances in electric and normal. Blissey is weak to fighting and immune to ghost. Blissey will lose 6% in the sandstorm, while Cradily will be able to survive.

Needless to say, Cradily vs Blissey is a very complicated case. But lets start somewhere.

Standard Cradily in the analysis has 252/164/92 + careful spread. I use the ShoddyBattle plugin to calculate its Defense and Sp. Def tiers to be 120.99 and 122.05. My notation is (120.99, 122.05) for short.

Standard Bold Blissey has 252/252 HP / Def + Bold. That is 120.01 def and 129.99 Sp. Def, or (120.01, 128.99) for short.

Now there are some various magic numbers that will help with these calculations. They are listed at the end of this post. The ones we need are the 150% bonus (4.25) and the 200% bonus (7.27).

So in a Sandstorm, Cradily's Sp. Def gets a 50% boost, which means you add 4.25 to Cradily's Sp. Def Tier, or 122.05 + 4.25 == 126.30. Note that even after the Sandstorm boost, Blissey is still stronger in Sp. Def. Although Cradily is slightly stronger in physical defense.

Cradily in a Sandstorm: (120.99, 126.30)
Blissey: (120.01, 128.99)

What about stockpile? It is a 50% boost on the first turn, so that means adding 4.25 to both tiers. To be fair, Blissey will get to use Calm Mind which gives it a boost in Sp. Defense only.

Sandstorm + Stockpile bonus on Cradily: (125.24, 130.55)
Blissey + Calm Mind: (120.01, 133.24)

Clearly, Cradily gets better physical Defenses after a stockpile, and Blissey still reigns queen of Sp. Defense. Barrier/Amnesia, which double the defenses of a pokemon uses 7.27 as its magic number. But wait, what about weaknesses / resistances? Those too use 7.27 as the penelty.

How do tiers translate into damage?
Tiers are in a logarithmic scale, base 1.1. This means that a difference of 1 tier will take 10% more damage than the tier above it.

For a physical example, starting Dugtrio (tier 107.7) takes 10% more damage from physical attacks than Alakazam (tier 108.72). Alakazam takes 10% more damage than Togepi (tier 109.79), who takes 10% more damage than Roserade (110.67)... all the way up to Steelix.

This is an exponential scale, so this translates quite simply. 1.1 ^ (tier difference) is the % difference in damage. For example, 0/0 Dugtrio (107.7) compared to 252/252 +Def Steelix (127.76) takes 672% more damage.

So if you can do 14% damage to Steelix with Waterfall, then you will OHKO Dugtrio with waterfall.

I should note that this is PERCENT damage, and not actual HP damage. This is to make comparisons and analysis much easier. If you want to get a "feel" of the damage changes, look at the Tier indexes

The Physical Def. Tier Index
Code:
```Regirock Tier 123
Giratina Tier 122
Cresselia Tier 121
Hippowdon Tier 120
Skarmory Tier 119
Mew Tier 118
Weezing Tier 117
Scizor Tier 116
Spiritomb tier 115
Porygon-Z Tier 114
Azelf Tier 113
Floatzel Tier 112
Gengar Tier 111
Alakazam Tier 108
Dugtrio Tier 107
Smeargle Tier 106
Treecko Tier 105
Gastly tier 103
Deoxys Atk Tier 102
Happiny Tier 101
Diglett Tier 100
Feebas Tier 99
Pichu Tier 98
...
(skip 40+ lines...)
...
Shedinja Tier 50
```
The format for the tiers is 0/0 spread, 0/0 spread, 252/252 spread, and 252/252 spread. Nature is NOT taken into account. (add or subtract 1 to see a nature change)

Physical Defense Tiers:

Code:
```Regirock Tier 123
Regirock 123.65 117.21 127.06 121.68
Steelix 123.29 113.16 126.76 118.59

Giratina Tier 122
Giratina 122.86 122.86 126.41 126.41

Cresselia Tier 121
Aggron 121.92 112.14 125.59 117.82
Rhyperior 121.78 114.36 125.45 119.77
Groudon 121.58 117.59 125.26 122.05
Cresselia 121.32 122.06 125.08 125.69
Arceus 121.32 121.32 125.08 125.08
Lugia 121.25 122.83 125 126.32
Slaking 121.21 117.52 125.1 122.3

Hippowdon Tier 120
Registeel 120.91 120.91 124.71 124.71
Relicanth 120.89 114.82 124.7 119.98
Tangrowth 120.53 112.73 124.4 118.5
Hippowdon 120.49 116.15 124.38 121.01
Bastiodon 120.48 118.64 124.39 122.84
Rhydon 120.46 112.23 124.35 118.22
Cloyster 120.3 108.29 124.29 114.98
Dialga 120.16 118.52 124.09 122.78

Skarmory Tier 119
Regigigas 119.97 119.97 123.96 123.96
Forretress 119.91 112.51 123.88 118.12
Suicune 119.77 119.77 123.78 123.78
Shuckle 119.66 119.66 124.05 124.05
Golem 119.58 113.51 123.6 118.88
Metagross 119.58 116.28 123.6 120.96
Torkoal 119.55 113.41 123.58 118.74
Donphan 119.52 113.54 123.56 118.98
Tyranitar 119.37 118.52 123.46 122.78
Uxie 119.23 119.23 123.31 123.31
Deoxys Defense 119.19 119.19 123.33 123.33
Skarmory 119.17 113.03 123.27 118.43
Probopass 119.1 119.42 123.22 123.49
Slowbro 119.06 116.25 123.19 121.01
Umbreon 119.06 120.58 123.19 124.43

Mew Tier 118
Gliscor 118.87 114.35 123.01 119.47
Lairon 118.77 109.93 122.95 116.19
Lickilicky 118.66 118.66 122.93 122.93
Miltank 118.64 115.13 122.86 120.16
Torterra 118.64 116.78 122.86 121.4
Garchomp 118.54 117.57 122.83 122.07
Mew 118.52 118.52 122.78 122.78
Celebi 118.52 118.52 122.78 122.78
Jirachi 118.52 118.52 122.78 122.78
Manaphy 118.52 118.52 122.78 122.78
Shaymin 118.52 118.52 122.78 122.78
Omastar 118.5 113.41 122.71 118.74
Leafeon 118.48 112.41 122.7 117.98
Heatran 118.47 118.47 122.71 122.71
Wobbuffet 118.35 118.35 123.18 123.18
Lapras 118.27 119.76 122.72 123.87
Walrein 118.18 118.18 122.56 122.56

Weezing Tier 117
Snorlax 117.99 122.53 122.71 126.18
Entei 117.97 116.9 122.42 121.61
Mewtwo 117.95 117.95 122.36 122.36
Ho-oh 117.95 122.83 122.36 126.32
Rayquaza 117.89 117.89 122.31 122.31
Articuno 117.88 119.9 122.24 123.87
Palkia 117.88 119.52 122.24 123.56
Onix 117.79 106.89 122.24 113.89
Weezing 117.75 113.03 122.1 118.43
Sudowoodo 117.74 112.79 122.09 118.29
Magnezone 117.74 115.56 122.09 120.36
Sandslash 117.71 111.81 122.07 117.63
Mesprit 117.64 117.64 122.03 122.03
Swampert 117.59 117.59 122.05 122.05
Kyogre 117.59 121.58 122.05 125.26
Bronzong 117.59 117.59 121.97 121.97
Feraligatr 117.55 115.92 121.97 120.7
Dragonite 117.49 117.95 121.94 122.3
Poliwrath 117.43 116.95 121.89 121.52
Tangela 117.36 108.65 121.78 115.4
Drapion 117.34 113.99 121.77 119.17
Meganium 117.21 117.21 121.68 121.68
Regice 117.21 123.65 121.68 127.06
Mamoswine 117.16 114.77 121.78 120.02
Dusknoir 117.15 117.15 121.65 121.65
Blastoise 117.14 117.57 121.62 121.97
Togekiss 117.09 118.8 121.61 122.97

Scizor Tier 116
Glaceon 116.96 115.65 121.46 120.42
Moltres 116.95 116.45 121.52 121.13
Swalot 116.88 116.88 121.51 121.51
Armaldo 116.85 114.9 121.39 119.88
Tropius 116.82 117.23 121.46 121.77
Exeggutor 116.78 114.51 121.4 119.72
Quagsire 116.78 114.51 121.4 119.72
Rhyhorn 116.75 107.77 121.33 115.06
Nidoqueen 116.66 116.45 121.29 121.13
Vespiquen 116.66 116.66 121.23 121.23
Porygon2 116.62 117.09 121.24 121.61
Hariyama 116.58 116.58 121.58 121.58
Azumarill 116.57 116.57 121.27 121.27
Piloswine 116.57 114.17 121.27 119.51
Graveler 116.56 108.72 121.14 115.32
Kingler 116.56 109.52 121.14 115.86
Marowak 116.56 113.76 121.14 118.95
Gligar 116.54 112.41 121.13 117.98
Magcargo 116.52 112.93 121.11 118.29
Scizor 116.48 114.54 121.09 119.58
Zapdos 116.45 116.95 121.13 121.52
Tauros 116.4 113.77 121.03 119.04
Kingdra 116.4 116.4 121.03 121.03
Whiscash 116.39 116.15 121.19 121.02
Empoleon 116.36 117.57 121.03 121.98
Dusclops 116.34 116.34 121 121
Muk 116.32 118.82 121.11 123.03
Yanmega 116.29 112.72 120.99 118.37
Latias 116.28 119.58 120.96 123.6
Slowking 116.25 119.06 121.01 123.19
Salamence 116.25 116.25 121.01 121.01
Kabutops 116.15 112.63 120.81 118.11
Claydol 116.15 117.35 120.81 121.78
Milotic 116.15 120.22 120.93 124.14
Wormadam Ground 116.15 114.28 120.81 119.35
Pinsir 116.1 113.03 120.78 118.43
Shelgon 116.1 110.32 120.78 116.51

Spiritomb tier 115
Arcanine 115.93 115.93 120.74 120.74
Machamp 115.93 116.45 120.74 121.13
Dewgong 115.93 117.43 120.74 121.89
Altaria 115.92 117.29 120.66 121.74
Vaporeon 115.87 119.76 120.96 123.87
Gastrodon 115.85 117.43 120.81 121.99
Huntail 115.74 112.8 120.48 118.21
Gorebyss 115.74 112.8 120.48 118.21
Pelipper 115.71 112.63 120.46 118.11
Metang 115.71 113.76 120.46 118.95
Nosepass 115.69 112.04 120.52 117.59
Crobat 115.6 115.6 120.46 120.46
Venusaur 115.57 117.21 120.42 121.68
Spiritomb 115.56 115.56 120.34 120.34
Darkrai 115.56 115.56 120.36 120.36
Wailord 115.54 115.54 121.09 121.09
Clefable 115.48 117.27 120.42 121.79
Dunsparce 115.44 114.82 120.43 119.98
Vileplume 115.43 115.92 120.28 120.66
Bellossom 115.43 116.85 120.28 121.39
Deoxys 113.94 113.94 119.06 119.06
Lickitung 115.38 115.38 120.32 120.32
Ampharos 115.38 116.95 120.32 121.52
Politoed 115.38 117.88 120.32 122.24
Granbull 115.38 113.54 120.32 118.98
Ursaring 115.38 115.38 120.32 120.32
Raikou 115.38 117.88 120.32 122.24
Abomasnow 115.38 116.45 120.32 121.13
Lanturn 115.33 117.57 120.54 122.16
Vigoroth 115.26 112.17 120.18 117.93
Flygon 115.26 115.26 120.18 120.18
Glalie 115.26 115.26 120.18 120.18
Latios 115.26 118.06 120.18 122.36
Skuntank 115.26 114.49 120.31 119.76
Phione 115.26 115.26 120.18 120.18
Wormadam Steel 115.26 115.26 120.1 120.1
Luxray 115.15 115.15 120.09 120.09
Solrock 115.06 112.79 119.98 118.29
Golduck 115.04 115.26 120.01 120.18
Nidoking 115 114.78 119.99 119.82

Porygon-Z Tier 114
Pidgeot 114.92 114.34 119.93 119.5
Charizard 114.9 115.64 119.9 120.46
Typhlosion 114.9 115.64 119.9 120.46
Aron 114.87 107.42 119.79 114.41
Exploud 114.81 114.81 120 120
Sealeo 114.8 114.8 119.89 119.89
Heracross 114.71 116.75 119.76 121.33
Lopunny 114.58 115.74 119.59 120.5
Scyther 114.54 114.54 119.58 119.58
Crawdaunt 114.52 110.91 119.54 116.9
Hypno 114.47 118.8 119.62 122.97
Staraptor 114.47 111.77 119.62 117.7
Porygon-Z 114.47 115.05 119.62 120.05
Shieldon 114.46 111.84 119.51 117.43
Drifblim 114.46 116.03 120.17 121.24
Magneton 114.42 111.8 119.44 117.44
Cubone 114.42 109.09 119.44 115.52
Hitmontop 114.42 115.73 119.44 120.47
Bonsly 114.42 108.29 119.44 114.98
Octillery 114.35 114.35 119.47 119.47
Starmie 114.28 114.28 119.35 119.35
Wormadam Grass 114.28 116.15 119.35 120.81
Ninetales 114.21 116.71 119.35 121.27
Slowpoke 114.19 110.43 119.45 116.86
Hippopotas 114.17 109.24 119.3 115.82
Croconaw 114.16 112.16 119.27 117.8
Wigglytuff 114.14 114.94 119.86 120.4
Bronzor 114.14 114.14 119.23 119.23
Machoke 114.13 112.86 119.33 118.42
Blaziken 114.13 114.13 119.33 119.33
Ludicolo 114.13 117.21 119.33 121.68
Lumineon 114.02 115.08 119.19 120

Azelf Tier 113
Rampardos 113.99 112.55 119.35 118.35
Geodude 113.96 104.53 119.08 112.45
Infernape 113.96 113.96 119.19 119.19
Pineco 113.94 106.48 119.07 113.81
Carnivine 113.94 113.94 119.16 119.16
Deoxys Speed 113.94 113.94 119.07 119.07
Lileep 113.91 114.96 119.09 119.89
Togetic 113.87 115.74 119.02 120.48
Corsola 113.87 113.87 119.02 119.02
Golbat 113.77 114.35 119.04 119.47
Jumpluff 113.77 115.43 119.04 120.28
Azelf 113.77 113.77 119.04 119.04
Parasect 113.76 113.76 118.95 118.95
Exeggcute 113.76 109.13 118.95 115.65
Bayleef 113.76 113.76 118.95 118.95
Breloom 113.76 111.37 118.95 117.19
Furret 113.73 112.51 119.08 118.21
Toxicroak 113.72 113.72 119.06 119.06
Wartortle 113.68 113.68 118.89 118.89
Qwilfish 113.61 111.07 118.86 117.02
Phanpy 113.54 110.43 118.98 116.86
Shiftry 113.54 113.54 118.98 118.98
Victreebel 113.51 112.86 118.88 118.42
Tentacruel 113.51 118.85 118.88 123
Koffing 113.51 107.38 118.72 114.27
Seaking 113.51 115.26 118.88 120.18
Aerodactyl 113.51 114.71 118.88 119.76
Grumpig 113.51 118.06 118.88 122.36
Omanyte 113.48 108.44 118.7 114.95
Sandshrew 113.45 105.44 118.68 113.17
Mawile 113.45 109.84 118.68 116.04
Pupitar 113.41 113.41 118.74 118.74
Marshtomp 113.41 113.41 118.74 118.74
Mightyena 113.41 112.14 118.74 117.82
Camerupt 113.41 113.99 118.74 119.17
Castform 113.41 113.41 118.74 118.74
Cherrim 113.41 114.32 118.74 119.42
Lucario 113.41 113.41 118.74 118.74
Electivire 113.41 115.43 118.77 120.28
Magmortar 113.41 116.4 118.77 121.03
Froslass 113.41 113.41 118.74 118.74
Ambipom 113.29 113.29 118.68 118.68
Medicham 113.21 113.21 118.54 118.54
Nidorina 113.04 111.45 118.47 117.33
Honchkrow 113.04 113.04 118.71 118.71
Skorupi 113.04 108.93 118.35 115.32
Rapidash 113.03 114.16 118.43 119.27
Porygon 113.03 113.61 118.43 118.86
Xatu 113.03 113.03 118.43 118.43
Mantine 113.03 119.17 118.43 123.27
Chimecho 113.03 114.16 118.43 119.27
Munchlax 113.02 119.05 119.07 123.34

Floatzel Tier 112
Shellder 112.97 102.38 118.31 111
Linoone 112.86 112.86 118.4 118.4
Hitmonchan 112.82 115.73 118.2 120.47
Girafarig 112.79 112.79 118.29 118.29
Sceptile 112.79 115.06 118.29 119.98
Delcatty 112.79 111.45 118.29 117.33
Lunatone 112.79 115.06 118.29 119.98
Bibarel 112.79 112.79 118.36 118.36
Weavile 112.79 115.06 118.29 119.98
Purugly 112.74 112.08 118.26 117.79
Noctowl 112.73 118.15 118.5 122.49
Prinplup 112.71 113.64 118.19 118.88
Gardevoir 112.64 117.59 118.17 121.97
Gabite 112.64 111.3 118.17 117.21
Gloom 112.63 113.21 118.11 118.54
Dodrio 112.63 111.37 118.11 117.19
Electrode 112.63 113.76 118.11 118.95
Stantler 112.63 113.01 118.19 118.47
Dustox 112.63 114.78 118.11 119.73
Kecleon 112.63 117.35 118.11 121.78
Pachirisu 112.63 114.78 118.11 119.73
Rotom 112.6 112.6 118.04 118.04
Arbok 112.51 113.65 118.02 118.87
Floatzel 112.51 111.77 118.21 117.7
Fearow 112.41 111.89 117.98 117.61
Poliwhirl 112.41 110.32 117.98 116.51
Masquerain 112.41 114.75 118.01 119.74
Sableye 112.38 111.18 117.87 116.99
Zangoose 112.36 112.36 118 118
Seviper 112.36 112.36 118 118
Banette 112.34 112.08 117.92 117.73
Venomoth 112.14 113.99 117.82 119.17
Manectric 112.14 112.14 117.82 117.82
Cacturne 112.14 112.14 117.82 117.82
Wynaut 112.11 112.11 118.03 118.03
Dragonair 112.1 112.71 117.73 118.18
Clamperl 112.05 108.44 117.59 114.95
Krabby 112.04 102.38 117.59 111
Kabuto 112.04 106.39 117.59 113.5
Beldum 112.02 109.62 117.57 115.81

Gengar Tier 111
Wailmer 111.82 111.82 118.24 118.24
Sunflora 111.81 115.43 117.63 120.28
Ivysaur 111.76 113.76 117.48 118.95
Persian 111.76 112.41 117.51 117.98
Primeape 111.76 113.03 117.51 118.43
Jolteon 111.76 115.65 117.51 120.42
Flareon 111.76 116.96 117.51 121.46
Espeon 111.76 115.65 117.51 120.42
Absol 111.76 111.76 117.51 117.51
Grotle 111.48 110.26 117.24 116.38
Flaaffy 111.45 112.14 117.33 117.82
Grimer 111.42 111.42 117.41 117.41
Gengar 111.37 113.21 117.19 118.54
Misdreavus 111.37 114.28 117.19 119.35
Combusken 111.37 111.37 117.19 117.19
Swellow 111.37 109.93 117.19 116.19
Shroomish 111.37 111.37 117.19 117.19
Slakoth 111.37 107.31 117.19 114.48
Spinda 111.37 111.37 117.19 117.19
Kricketune 111.37 111.37 117.34 117.34
Mismagius 111.37 116.15 117.19 120.81
Electabuzz 111.35 114.68 117.22 119.67
Magmar 111.35 114.68 117.22 119.67
Gulpin 111.15 111.15 117.13 117.13
Seel 111.07 113.03 117.02 118.43
Houndoom 111.07 114.9 117.12 119.88
Volbeat 111.07 113.61 117.02 118.86
Illumise 111.07 113.61 117.02 118.86
Totodile 111.05 108.78 116.9 115.31
Nidorino 111.04 110.75 116.97 116.77

Raticate 110.96 112.22 116.87 117.78
Duskull 110.94 110.94 116.76 116.76
Charmeleon 110.93 111.86 116.87 117.53
Quilava 110.93 111.86 116.87 117.53
Pidgeotto 110.91 110.17 116.9 116.38
Shellos 110.83 112.85 116.96 118.37
Chikorita 110.74 110.74 116.64 116.64
Machop 110.7 108.09 116.82 115.1
Marill 110.7 110.7 116.82 116.82
Spheal 110.7 110.7 116.82 116.82
Mothim 110.7 110.7 116.82 116.82
Raichu 110.67 113.76 116.7 118.95
Squirtle 110.65 110.52 116.57 116.48
Loudred 110.56 110.56 116.87 116.87
Corphish 110.55 105.85 116.5 113.31
Monferno 110.55 110.55 116.65 116.65
Clefairy 110.39 112.79 116.6 118.29
Chatot 110.34 109.83 116.64 116.3
Weepinbell 110.32 109.52 116.51 115.97
Mr. Mime 110.27 115.61 116.28 120.4
Aipom 110.26 110.26 116.38 116.38
Sneasel 110.26 112.8 116.38 118.21
Blissey 110.21 128.03 119.08 130.96
Goldeen 110.09 108.65 116.17 115.17
Swablu 110.09 111.93 116.17 117.52
Bagon 110.09 104.99 116.17 112.82
Farfetch'd 110.01 110.97 116.17 116.85

Butterfree 109.93 113.76 116.19 118.95
Venonat 109.93 110.67 116.19 116.7
Snubbull 109.93 108.26 116.19 115.08
Teddiursa 109.93 109.93 116.19 116.19
Beautifly 109.93 109.93 116.19 116.19
Lombre 109.93 112.63 116.19 118.11
Minun 109.93 114.28 116.19 119.35
Snover 109.93 111.37 116.19 117.19
Horsea 109.89 102.38 115.96 111
Finneon 109.89 110.58 116.07 116.55
Metapod 109.84 104.28 116.04 112.49
Ponyta 109.84 111.18 116.04 116.99
Silcoon 109.84 104.28 116.04 112.49
Cascoon 109.84 104.28 116.04 112.49
Nidoran F 109.82 107.85 116.07 114.75
Piplup 109.8 110.24 116.04 116.34
Togepi 109.79 109.79 115.9 115.9
Luxio 109.77 109.77 116.08 116.08
Stunky 109.69 108.68 116.06 115.39
Hitmonlee 109.54 115.73 115.83 120.47
Eevee 109.52 111.61 115.86 117.33
Ledian 109.52 116.15 115.86 120.81
Skiploom 109.52 111.61 115.86 117.33
Yanma 109.52 109.52 115.97 115.97
Staravia 109.52 107.85 115.86 114.75
Oddish 109.39 110.74 115.68 116.64
Magnemite 109.36 107.4 115.56 114.15
Drifloon 109.28 111.13 116.13 117.32
Luvdisc 109.21 110.55 115.54 116.5
Drowzee 109.13 114.78 115.65 119.73
Larvitar 109.09 109.09 115.52 115.52
Mudkip 109.09 109.09 115.52 115.52
Vibrava 109.09 109.09 115.52 115.52
Snorunt 109.09 109.09 115.52 115.52
Turtwig 109.09 109.09 115.52 115.52
Chinchou 109.03 111.96 115.77 117.73
Nuzleaf 109.03 109.03 115.71 115.71
Sharpedo 109.03 109.03 115.71 115.71

Alakazam Tier 108
Gible 108.96 108.96 115.52 115.52
Baltoy 108.93 110.89 115.32 116.73
Cranidos 108.81 106.82 115.52 114.28
Psyduck 108.78 109.09 115.31 115.52
Growlithe 108.72 109.52 115.32 115.86
Alakazam 108.72 113.87 115.32 119.02
Wooper 108.72 104.71 115.32 112.82
Kakuna 108.65 103.84 115.17 112.13
Beedrill 108.65 114.16 115.4 119.27
Anorith 108.65 108.65 115.17 115.17
Chingling 108.65 108.65 115.17 115.17
Mantyke 108.65 116.07 115.17 120.76
Murkrow 108.61 108.61 115.31 115.31
Ditto 108.6 108.6 115.17 115.17
Unown 108.6 108.6 115.17 115.17
Buneary 108.55 110.4 115.21 116.47
Bulbasaur 108.49 110.74 115.06 116.64
Paras 108.44 108.44 114.95 114.95
Grovyle 108.29 111.18 114.98 116.99
Skitty 108.29 106.48 114.98 113.81
Roselia 108.29 112.93 114.98 118.29
Plusle 108.26 113.21 115.08 118.54
Numel 108.26 109.13 115.08 115.65
Voltorb 108.18 108.93 114.81 115.32
Seedot 108.18 104.53 114.81 112.45
Bidoof 108.18 108.18 115.01 115.01

Dugtrio Tier 107
Chansey 107.98 125.57 118.02 128.95
Barboach 107.95 107.6 114.76 114.53
Staryu 107.93 107.93 114.56 114.56
Meditite 107.93 107.93 114.56 114.56
Mareep 107.85 108.72 114.75 115.32
Haunter 107.84 109.39 114.63 115.68
Delibird 107.84 107.84 114.63 114.63
Trapinch 107.84 107.84 114.63 114.63
Cherubi 107.84 109.1 114.63 115.48
Jynx 107.71 115.65 114.79 120.42
Dugtrio 107.7 110.4 114.43 116.35
Glameow 107.69 106.78 114.57 113.98
Chimchar 107.59 107.59 114.45 114.45
Jigglypuff 107.51 108.81 115.49 116.22
Dratini 107.47 108.28 114.34 114.88
Swinub 107.42 105.44 114.41 113.17
Azurill 107.42 107.42 114.41 114.41
Cacnea 107.42 107.42 114.41 114.41
Natu 107.38 107.38 114.27 114.27
Burmy 107.38 107.38 114.27 114.27
Spoink 107.31 113.76 114.48 118.95
Croagunk 107.25 107.25 114.27 114.27
Makuhita 107.2 107.2 114.58 114.58
Nidoran M 107.07 107.07 114.13 114.13

Smeargle Tier 106
Torchic 106.98 108.65 114.06 115.17
Charmander 106.95 108.09 113.97 114.73
Cyndaquil 106.95 108.09 113.97 114.73
Smeargle 106.9 108.72 114.15 115.32
Buizel 106.9 105.86 114.15 113.51
Doduo 106.89 105.08 113.89 112.72
Magikarp 106.83 99.98 113.73 109.45
Ekans 106.73 108.3 113.78 114.84
Pidgey 106.51 105.57 113.7 113.09
Poliwag 106.51 106.51 113.7 113.7
Spinarak 106.51 106.51 113.7 113.7
Slugma 106.51 106.51 113.7 113.7
Electrike 106.51 106.51 113.7 113.7
Riolu 106.51 106.51 113.7 113.7
Zigzagoon 106.5 106.5 113.66 113.66
Bellsprout 106.48 105.44 113.81 113.17
Elekid 106.42 109.39 113.7 115.68
Magby 106.42 109.39 113.7 115.68
Kricketot 106.4 106.4 113.59 113.59
Vulpix 106.32 110.08 113.55 116.13
Hoothoot 106.27 110.81 113.84 116.8
Caterpie 106.03 102.54 113.46 111.41
Hoppip 106.03 108.44 113.32 114.95
Wurmple 106.03 104.99 113.46 112.82

Treecko Tier 105
Shuppet 105.94 105.54 113.38 113.13
Combee 105.87 105.87 113.16 113.16
Shinx 105.83 105.83 113.33 113.33
Zubat 105.57 106.51 113.09 113.7
Meowth 105.57 106.51 113.09 113.7
Mankey 105.57 107.38 113.09 114.27
Tentacool 105.57 113.96 113.09 119.08
Treecko 105.57 108.93 113.09 115.32
Budew 105.57 110.89 113.09 116.73
Kirlia 105.38 108.73 112.94 115.17
Mime Jr. 105.29 110.94 112.67 116.76
Remoraid 105.08 105.08 112.72 112.72
Tyrogue 105.08 105.08 112.72 112.72
Poochyena 105.08 104.04 112.72 112.08

Cleffa 104.99 109.84 112.9 116.04
Houndour 104.99 108.65 112.82 115.17
Surskit 104.96 108.49 112.71 115.02
Whismur 104.94 104.94 113.12 113.12
Sentret 104.88 106.89 112.59 113.89
Rattata 104.57 104.57 112.33 112.33
Weedle 104.53 102.08 112.45 111.04
Spearow 104.53 104.74 112.45 112.58
Ledyba 104.53 112.02 112.45 117.57
Taillow 104.53 104.53 112.45 112.45
Wingull 104.53 104.53 112.45 112.45
Starly 104.53 104.53 112.45 112.45
Igglybuff 104.51 105.99 113.42 114.21
Pikachu 104.04 106.03 112.08 113.32

Gastly tier 103
Gastly 103.53 104.57 111.69 112.33
Sunkern 103.53 103.53 111.69 111.69

Deoxys Atk Tier 102
Deoxys Attack 102.99 102.99 111.76 111.76
Carvanha 102.54 102.54 111.41 111.41
Ralts 102.17 104.36 110.84 112.17

Happiny Tier 101
Happiny 101.36 114.82 112.19 119.98
Smoochum 101.06 110.74 110.62 116.64

Diglett Tier 100
Diglett 100.05 104.06 109.28 111.78

Abra Tier 99
Feebas 99.98 106.83 109.45 113.73
Abra 99.07 107.4 109.09 114.15

Pichu Tier 98
Pichu 98.5 103.47 108.67 111.5

Shedinja Tier 50
Shedinja 50.74 47.89 55.00 53.18```
The format for the tiers is 0/0 spread, 0/0 spread, 252/252 spread, and 252/252 spread. Nature is NOT taken into account. (add or subtract 1 to see a nature change)

Special Defense Tier Index

Code:
```Blissey Tier 128
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Chansey Tier 125
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Regice Tier 123
Snorelax Tier 122
Arceus Tier 121
Umbreon tier 120
Shuckle Tier 119
Mew Tier 118
Empoleon tier 117
Machamp Tier 116
Spiritomb tier 115
Aerodactyl Tier 114
Lucario Tier 113
Yanmega Tier 112
Breloom Tier 111
Dugtrio tier 110
Swellow Tier 109
Cloyster Tier 108
Delibird Tier 107
Pikachu Tier 106
Shuppet tier 105
Ralts Tier 104
Pichu Tier 103
Deoxys Atk Tier 102
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Magikarp Tier 99
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(skip 40+ lines...)
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Shedinja Tier 47```
Special Defense Tiers
Code:
```Blissey Tier 128
Blissey 110.21 128.03 119.08 130.96

Chansey Tier 125
Chansey 107.98 125.57 118.02 128.95

Regice Tier 123
Regice 117.21 123.65 121.68 127.06

Snorelax Tier 122
Giratina 122.86 122.86 126.41 126.41
Lugia 121.25 122.83 125 126.32
Ho-oh 117.95 122.83 122.36 126.32
Snorlax 117.99 122.53 122.71 126.18
Cresselia 121.32 122.06 125.08 125.69

Arceus Tier 121
Kyogre 117.59 121.58 122.05 125.26
Arceus 121.32 121.32 125.08 125.08

Umbreon tier 120
Registeel 120.91 120.91 124.71 124.71
Umbreon 119.06 120.58 123.19 124.43
Milotic 116.15 120.22 120.93 124.14

Shuckle Tier 119
Regigigas 119.97 119.97 123.96 123.96
Articuno 117.88 119.9 122.24 123.87
Suicune 119.77 119.77 123.78 123.78
Lapras 118.27 119.76 122.72 123.87
Vaporeon 115.87 119.76 120.96 123.87
Shuckle 119.66 119.66 124.05 124.05
Latias 116.28 119.58 120.96 123.6
Palkia 117.88 119.52 122.24 123.56
Probopass 119.1 119.42 123.22 123.49
Uxie 119.23 119.23 123.31 123.31
Deoxys Defense 119.19 119.19 123.33 123.33
Mantine 113.03 119.17 118.43 123.27
Slowking 116.25 119.06 121.01 123.19
Munchlax 113.02 119.05 119.07 123.34

Mew Tier 118
Tentacruel 113.51 118.85 118.88 123
Muk 116.32 118.82 121.11 123.03
Hypno 114.47 118.8 119.62 122.97
Togekiss 117.09 118.8 121.61 122.97
Lickilicky 118.66 118.66 122.93 122.93
Bastiodon 120.48 118.64 124.39 122.84
Mew 118.52 118.52 122.78 122.78
Tyranitar 119.37 118.52 123.46 122.78
Celebi 118.52 118.52 122.78 122.78
Jirachi 118.52 118.52 122.78 122.78
Dialga 120.16 118.52 124.09 122.78
Manaphy 118.52 118.52 122.78 122.78
Shaymin 118.52 118.52 122.78 122.78
Heatran 118.47 118.47 122.71 122.71
Wobbuffet 118.35 118.35 123.18 123.18
Walrein 118.18 118.18 122.56 122.56
Noctowl 112.73 118.15 118.5 122.49
Grumpig 113.51 118.06 118.88 122.36
Latios 115.26 118.06 120.18 122.36

Empoleon tier 117
Dragonite 117.49 117.95 121.94 122.3
Mewtwo 117.95 117.95 122.36 122.36
Rayquaza 117.89 117.89 122.31 122.31
Politoed 115.38 117.88 120.32 122.24
Raikou 115.38 117.88 120.32 122.24
Mesprit 117.64 117.64 122.03 122.03
Swampert 117.59 117.59 122.05 122.05
Gardevoir 112.64 117.59 118.17 121.97
Groudon 121.58 117.59 125.26 122.05
Bronzong 117.59 117.59 121.97 121.97
Blastoise 117.14 117.57 121.62 121.97
Lanturn 115.33 117.57 120.54 122.16
Empoleon 116.36 117.57 121.03 121.98
Garchomp 118.54 117.57 122.83 122.07
Slaking 121.21 117.52 125.1 122.3
Dewgong 115.93 117.43 120.74 121.89
Gastrodon 115.85 117.43 120.81 121.99
Claydol 116.15 117.35 120.81 121.78
Kecleon 112.63 117.35 118.11 121.78
Altaria 115.92 117.29 120.66 121.74
Clefable 115.48 117.27 120.42 121.79
Tropius 116.82 117.23 121.46 121.77
Venusaur 115.57 117.21 120.42 121.68
Meganium 117.21 117.21 121.68 121.68
Ludicolo 114.13 117.21 119.33 121.68
Regirock 123.65 117.21 127.06 121.68
Dusknoir 117.15 117.15 121.65 121.65
Porygon2 116.62 117.09 121.24 121.61

Machamp Tier 116
Flareon 111.76 116.96 117.51 121.46
Poliwrath 117.43 116.95 121.89 121.52
Zapdos 116.45 116.95 121.13 121.52
Ampharos 115.38 116.95 120.32 121.52
Entei 117.97 116.9 122.42 121.61
Swalot 116.88 116.88 121.51 121.51
Bellossom 115.43 116.85 120.28 121.39
Torterra 118.64 116.78 122.86 121.4
Heracross 114.71 116.75 119.76 121.33
Ninetales 114.21 116.71 119.35 121.27
Vespiquen 116.66 116.66 121.23 121.23
Hariyama 116.58 116.58 121.58 121.58
Azumarill 116.57 116.57 121.27 121.27
Nidoqueen 116.66 116.45 121.29 121.13
Machamp 115.93 116.45 120.74 121.13
Moltres 116.95 116.45 121.52 121.13
Abomasnow 115.38 116.45 120.32 121.13
Kingdra 116.4 116.4 121.03 121.03
Magmortar 113.41 116.4 118.77 121.03
Dusclops 116.34 116.34 121 121
Metagross 119.58 116.28 123.6 120.96
Slowbro 119.06 116.25 123.19 121.01
Salamence 116.25 116.25 121.01 121.01
Ledian 109.52 116.15 115.86 120.81
Whiscash 116.39 116.15 121.19 121.02
Wormadam Grass 114.28 116.15 119.35 120.81
Mismagius 111.37 116.15 117.19 120.81
Hippowdon 120.49 116.15 124.38 121.01
Mantyke 108.65 116.07 115.17 120.76
Drifblim 114.46 116.03 120.17 121.24

Spiritomb tier 115
Arcanine 115.93 115.93 120.74 120.74
Vileplume 115.43 115.92 120.28 120.66
Feraligatr 117.55 115.92 121.97 120.7
Togetic 113.87 115.74 119.02 120.48
Lopunny 114.58 115.74 119.59 120.5
Hitmonlee 109.54 115.73 115.83 120.47
Hitmonchan 112.82 115.73 118.2 120.47
Hitmontop 114.42 115.73 119.44 120.47
Jynx 107.71 115.65 114.79 120.42
Jolteon 111.76 115.65 117.51 120.42
Espeon 111.76 115.65 117.51 120.42
Glaceon 116.96 115.65 121.46 120.42
Charizard 114.9 115.64 119.9 120.46
Typhlosion 114.9 115.64 119.9 120.46
Mr. Mime 110.27 115.61 116.28 120.4
Crobat 115.6 115.6 120.46 120.46
Spiritomb 115.56 115.56 120.34 120.34
Magnezone 117.74 115.56 122.09 120.36
Darkrai 115.56 115.56 120.36 120.36
Wailord 115.54 115.54 121.09 121.09
Jumpluff 113.77 115.43 119.04 120.28
Sunflora 111.81 115.43 117.63 120.28
Electivire 113.41 115.43 118.77 120.28
Lickitung 115.38 115.38 120.32 120.32
Ursaring 115.38 115.38 120.32 120.32
Golduck 115.04 115.26 120.01 120.18
Seaking 113.51 115.26 118.88 120.18
Flygon 115.26 115.26 120.18 120.18
Glalie 115.26 115.26 120.18 120.18
Phione 115.26 115.26 120.18 120.18
Wormadam Steel 115.26 115.26 120.1 120.1
Luxray 115.15 115.15 120.09 120.09
Miltank 118.64 115.13 122.86 120.16
Lumineon 114.02 115.08 119.19 120
Sceptile 112.79 115.06 118.29 119.98
Lunatone 112.79 115.06 118.29 119.98
Weavile 112.79 115.06 118.29 119.98
Porygon-Z 114.47 115.05 119.62 120.05

Aerodactyl Tier 114
Lileep 113.91 114.96 119.09 119.89
Wigglytuff 114.14 114.94 119.86 120.4
Houndoom 111.07 114.9 117.12 119.88
Armaldo 116.85 114.9 121.39 119.88
Dunsparce 115.44 114.82 120.43 119.98
Relicanth 120.89 114.82 124.7 119.98
Happiny 101.36 114.82 112.19 119.98
Exploud 114.81 114.81 120 120
Sealeo 114.8 114.8 119.89 119.89
Nidoking 115 114.78 119.99 119.82
Drowzee 109.13 114.78 115.65 119.73
Dustox 112.63 114.78 118.11 119.73
Pachirisu 112.63 114.78 118.11 119.73
Mamoswine 117.16 114.77 121.78 120.02
Masquerain 112.41 114.75 118.01 119.74
Aerodactyl 113.51 114.71 118.88 119.76
Electabuzz 111.35 114.68 117.22 119.67
Magmar 111.35 114.68 117.22 119.67
Scyther 114.54 114.54 119.58 119.58
Scizor 116.48 114.54 121.09 119.58
Exeggutor 116.78 114.51 121.4 119.72
Quagsire 116.78 114.51 121.4 119.72
Skuntank 115.26 114.49 120.31 119.76
Rhyperior 121.78 114.36 125.45 119.77
Golbat 113.77 114.35 119.04 119.47
Octillery 114.35 114.35 119.47 119.47
Gliscor 118.87 114.35 123.01 119.47
Pidgeot 114.92 114.34 119.93 119.5
Cherrim 113.41 114.32 118.74 119.42
Starmie 114.28 114.28 119.35 119.35
Misdreavus 111.37 114.28 117.19 119.35
Minun 109.93 114.28 116.19 119.35
Wormadam Ground 116.15 114.28 120.81 119.35
Piloswine 116.57 114.17 121.27 119.51
Beedrill 108.65 114.16 115.4 119.27
Rapidash 113.03 114.16 118.43 119.27
Chimecho 113.03 114.16 118.43 119.27
Bronzor 114.14 114.14 119.23 119.23
Blaziken 114.13 114.13 119.33 119.33

Lucario Tier 113
Venomoth 112.14 113.99 117.82 119.17
Camerupt 113.41 113.99 118.74 119.17
Drapion 117.34 113.99 121.77 119.17
Tentacool 105.57 113.96 113.09 119.08
Infernape 113.96 113.96 119.19 119.19
Carnivine 113.94 113.94 119.16 119.16
Deoxys Speed 113.94 113.94 119.07 119.07
Alakazam 108.72 113.87 115.32 119.02
Corsola 113.87 113.87 119.02 119.02
Tauros 116.4 113.77 121.03 119.04
Azelf 113.77 113.77 119.04 119.04
Ivysaur 111.76 113.76 117.48 118.95
Butterfree 109.93 113.76 116.19 118.95
Raichu 110.67 113.76 116.7 118.95
Parasect 113.76 113.76 118.95 118.95
Electrode 112.63 113.76 118.11 118.95
Marowak 116.56 113.76 121.14 118.95
Bayleef 113.76 113.76 118.95 118.95
Spoink 107.31 113.76 114.48 118.95
Metang 115.71 113.76 120.46 118.95
Toxicroak 113.72 113.72 119.06 119.06
Wartortle 113.68 113.68 118.89 118.89
Arbok 112.51 113.65 118.02 118.87
Prinplup 112.71 113.64 118.19 118.88
Porygon 113.03 113.61 118.43 118.86
Volbeat 111.07 113.61 117.02 118.86
Illumise 111.07 113.61 117.02 118.86
Granbull 115.38 113.54 120.32 118.98
Donphan 119.52 113.54 123.56 118.98
Shiftry 113.54 113.54 118.98 118.98
Golem 119.58 113.51 123.6 118.88
Omastar 118.5 113.41 122.71 118.74
Pupitar 113.41 113.41 118.74 118.74
Marshtomp 113.41 113.41 118.74 118.74
Torkoal 119.55 113.41 123.58 118.74
Castform 113.41 113.41 118.74 118.74
Lucario 113.41 113.41 118.74 118.74
Froslass 113.41 113.41 118.74 118.74
Ambipom 113.29 113.29 118.68 118.68
Gloom 112.63 113.21 118.11 118.54
Gengar 111.37 113.21 117.19 118.54
Medicham 113.21 113.21 118.54 118.54
Plusle 108.26 113.21 115.08 118.54
Steelix 123.29 113.16 126.76 118.59
Deoxys 115.43 113.16 120.28 118.59
Honchkrow 113.04 113.04 118.71 118.71
Primeape 111.76 113.03 117.51 118.43
Seel 111.07 113.03 117.02 118.43
Weezing 117.75 113.03 122.1 118.43
Pinsir 116.1 113.03 120.78 118.43
Xatu 113.03 113.03 118.43 118.43
Skarmory 119.17 113.03 123.27 118.43
Stantler 112.63 113.01 118.19 118.47

Yanmega Tier 112
Magcargo 116.52 112.93 121.11 118.29
Roselia 108.29 112.93 114.98 118.29
Machoke 114.13 112.86 119.33 118.42
Victreebel 113.51 112.86 118.88 118.42
Linoone 112.86 112.86 118.4 118.4
Shellos 110.83 112.85 116.96 118.37
Sneasel 110.26 112.8 116.38 118.21
Huntail 115.74 112.8 120.48 118.21
Gorebyss 115.74 112.8 120.48 118.21
Clefairy 110.39 112.79 116.6 118.29
Sudowoodo 117.74 112.79 122.09 118.29
Girafarig 112.79 112.79 118.29 118.29
Solrock 115.06 112.79 119.98 118.29
Bibarel 112.79 112.79 118.36 118.36
Tangrowth 120.53 112.73 124.4 118.5
Yanmega 116.29 112.72 120.99 118.37
Dragonair 112.1 112.71 117.73 118.18
Kabutops 116.15 112.63 120.81 118.11
Lombre 109.93 112.63 116.19 118.11
Pelipper 115.71 112.63 120.46 118.11
Rotom 112.6 112.6 118.04 118.04
Rampardos 113.99 112.55 119.35 118.35
Furret 113.73 112.51 119.08 118.21
Forretress 119.91 112.51 123.88 118.12
Persian 111.76 112.41 117.51 117.98
Gligar 116.54 112.41 121.13 117.98
Leafeon 118.48 112.41 122.7 117.98
Zangoose 112.36 112.36 118 118
Seviper 112.36 112.36 118 118
Rhydon 120.46 112.23 124.35 118.22
Raticate 110.96 112.22 116.87 117.78
Vigoroth 115.26 112.17 120.18 117.93
Croconaw 114.16 112.16 119.27 117.8
Flaaffy 111.45 112.14 117.33 117.82
Mightyena 113.41 112.14 118.74 117.82
Aggron 121.92 112.14 125.59 117.82
Manectric 112.14 112.14 117.82 117.82
Cacturne 112.14 112.14 117.82 117.82
Wynaut 112.11 112.11 118.03 118.03
Banette 112.34 112.08 117.92 117.73
Purugly 112.74 112.08 118.26 117.79
Nosepass 115.69 112.04 120.52 117.59
Ledyba 104.53 112.02 112.45 117.57

Breloom Tier 111
Chinchou 109.03 111.96 115.77 117.73
Swablu 110.09 111.93 116.17 117.52
Fearow 112.41 111.89 117.98 117.61
Charmeleon 110.93 111.86 116.87 117.53
Quilava 110.93 111.86 116.87 117.53
Shieldon 114.46 111.84 119.51 117.43
Wailmer 111.82 111.82 118.24 118.24
Sandslash 117.71 111.81 122.07 117.63
Magneton 114.42 111.8 119.44 117.44
Staraptor 114.47 111.77 119.62 117.7
Floatzel 112.51 111.77 118.21 117.7
Absol 111.76 111.76 117.51 117.51
Eevee 109.52 111.61 115.86 117.33
Skiploom 109.52 111.61 115.86 117.33
Nidorina 113.04 111.45 118.47 117.33
Delcatty 112.79 111.45 118.29 117.33
Grimer 111.42 111.42 117.41 117.41
Dodrio 112.63 111.37 118.11 117.19
Combusken 111.37 111.37 117.19 117.19
Shroomish 111.37 111.37 117.19 117.19
Breloom 113.76 111.37 118.95 117.19
Spinda 111.37 111.37 117.19 117.19
Kricketune 111.37 111.37 117.34 117.34
Snover 109.93 111.37 116.19 117.19
Gabite 112.64 111.3 118.17 117.21
Ponyta 109.84 111.18 116.04 116.99
Grovyle 108.29 111.18 114.98 116.99
Sableye 112.38 111.18 117.87 116.99
Gulpin 111.15 111.15 117.13 117.13
Drifloon 109.28 111.13 116.13 117.32
Qwilfish 113.61 111.07 118.86 117.02

Dugtrio tier 110
Farfetch'd 110.01 110.97 116.17 116.85
Duskull 110.94 110.94 116.76 116.76
Mime Jr. 105.29 110.94 112.67 116.76
Crawdaunt 114.52 110.91 119.54 116.9
Baltoy 108.93 110.89 115.32 116.73
Budew 105.57 110.89 113.09 116.73
Hoothoot 106.27 110.81 113.84 116.8
Nidorino 111.04 110.75 116.97 116.77
Bulbasaur 108.49 110.74 115.06 116.64
Oddish 109.39 110.74 115.68 116.64
Chikorita 110.74 110.74 116.64 116.64
Smoochum 101.06 110.74 110.62 116.64
Marill 110.7 110.7 116.82 116.82
Spheal 110.7 110.7 116.82 116.82
Mothim 110.7 110.7 116.82 116.82
Venonat 109.93 110.67 116.19 116.7
Finneon 109.89 110.58 116.07 116.55
Loudred 110.56 110.56 116.87 116.87
Luvdisc 109.21 110.55 115.54 116.5
Monferno 110.55 110.55 116.65 116.65
Squirtle 110.65 110.52 116.57 116.48
Slowpoke 114.19 110.43 119.45 116.86
Phanpy 113.54 110.43 118.98 116.86
Dugtrio 107.7 110.4 114.43 116.35
Buneary 108.55 110.4 115.21 116.47
Poliwhirl 112.41 110.32 117.98 116.51
Shelgon 116.1 110.32 120.78 116.51
Aipom 110.26 110.26 116.38 116.38
Grotle 111.48 110.26 117.24 116.38
Piplup 109.8 110.24 116.04 116.34
Pidgeotto 110.91 110.17 116.9 116.38
Vulpix 106.32 110.08 113.55 116.13

Swellow Tier 109
Teddiursa 109.93 109.93 116.19 116.19
Beautifly 109.93 109.93 116.19 116.19
Swellow 111.37 109.93 117.19 116.19
Lairon 118.77 109.93 122.95 116.19
Cleffa 104.99 109.84 112.9 116.04
Mawile 113.45 109.84 118.68 116.04
Chatot 110.34 109.83 116.64 116.3
Togepi 109.79 109.79 115.9 115.9
Luxio 109.77 109.77 116.08 116.08
Beldum 112.02 109.62 117.57 115.81
Growlithe 108.72 109.52 115.32 115.86
Weepinbell 110.32 109.52 116.51 115.97
Kingler 116.56 109.52 121.14 115.86
Yanma 109.52 109.52 115.97 115.97
Haunter 107.84 109.39 114.63 115.68
Elekid 106.42 109.39 113.7 115.68
Magby 106.42 109.39 113.7 115.68
Hippopotas 114.17 109.24 119.3 115.82
Exeggcute 113.76 109.13 118.95 115.65
Numel 108.26 109.13 115.08 115.65
Cherubi 107.84 109.1 114.63 115.48
Psyduck 108.78 109.09 115.31 115.52
Cubone 114.42 109.09 119.44 115.52
Larvitar 109.09 109.09 115.52 115.52
Mudkip 109.09 109.09 115.52 115.52
Vibrava 109.09 109.09 115.52 115.52
Snorunt 109.09 109.09 115.52 115.52
Turtwig 109.09 109.09 115.52 115.52
Nuzleaf 109.03 109.03 115.71 115.71
Sharpedo 109.03 109.03 115.71 115.71

Cloyster Tier 108
Gible 108.96 108.96 115.52 115.52
Voltorb 108.18 108.93 114.81 115.32
Treecko 105.57 108.93 113.09 115.32
Skorupi 113.04 108.93 118.35 115.32
Jigglypuff 107.51 108.81 115.49 116.22
Totodile 111.05 108.78 116.9 115.31
Kirlia 105.38 108.73 112.94 115.17
Graveler 116.56 108.72 121.14 115.32
Mareep 107.85 108.72 114.75 115.32
Smeargle 106.9 108.72 114.15 115.32
Stunky 109.69 108.68 116.06 115.39
Tangela 117.36 108.65 121.78 115.4
Goldeen 110.09 108.65 116.17 115.17
Houndour 104.99 108.65 112.82 115.17
Torchic 106.98 108.65 114.06 115.17
Anorith 108.65 108.65 115.17 115.17
Chingling 108.65 108.65 115.17 115.17
Murkrow 108.61 108.61 115.31 115.31
Ditto 108.6 108.6 115.17 115.17
Unown 108.6 108.6 115.17 115.17
Surskit 104.96 108.49 112.71 115.02
Paras 108.44 108.44 114.95 114.95
Omanyte 113.48 108.44 118.7 114.95
Hoppip 106.03 108.44 113.32 114.95
Clamperl 112.05 108.44 117.59 114.95
Ekans 106.73 108.3 113.78 114.84
Cloyster 120.3 108.29 124.29 114.98
Bonsly 114.42 108.29 119.44 114.98
Dratini 107.47 108.28 114.34 114.88
Snubbull 109.93 108.26 116.19 115.08
Bidoof 108.18 108.18 115.01 115.01
Charmander 106.95 108.09 113.97 114.73
Machop 110.7 108.09 116.82 115.1
Cyndaquil 106.95 108.09 113.97 114.73

Delibird Tier 107
Staryu 107.93 107.93 114.56 114.56
Meditite 107.93 107.93 114.56 114.56
Nidoran F 109.82 107.85 116.07 114.75
Staravia 109.52 107.85 115.86 114.75
Delibird 107.84 107.84 114.63 114.63
Trapinch 107.84 107.84 114.63 114.63
Rhyhorn 116.75 107.77 121.33 115.06
Barboach 107.95 107.6 114.76 114.53
Chimchar 107.59 107.59 114.45 114.45
Azurill 107.42 107.42 114.41 114.41
Aron 114.87 107.42 119.79 114.41
Cacnea 107.42 107.42 114.41 114.41
Abra 99.07 107.4 109.09 114.15
Magnemite 109.36 107.4 115.56 114.15
Mankey 105.57 107.38 113.09 114.27
Koffing 113.51 107.38 118.72 114.27
Natu 107.38 107.38 114.27 114.27
Burmy 107.38 107.38 114.27 114.27
Slakoth 111.37 107.31 117.19 114.48
Croagunk 107.25 107.25 114.27 114.27
Makuhita 107.2 107.2 114.58 114.58
Nidoran M 107.07 107.07 114.13 114.13

Pikachu Tier 106
Onix 117.79 106.89 122.24 113.89
Sentret 104.88 106.89 112.59 113.89
Feebas 99.98 106.83 109.45 113.73
Cranidos 108.81 106.82 115.52 114.28
Glameow 107.69 106.78 114.57 113.98
Zubat 105.57 106.51 113.09 113.7
Meowth 105.57 106.51 113.09 113.7
Poliwag 106.51 106.51 113.7 113.7
Spinarak 106.51 106.51 113.7 113.7
Slugma 106.51 106.51 113.7 113.7
Electrike 106.51 106.51 113.7 113.7
Riolu 106.51 106.51 113.7 113.7
Zigzagoon 106.5 106.5 113.66 113.66
Pineco 113.94 106.48 119.07 113.81
Skitty 108.29 106.48 114.98 113.81
Kricketot 106.4 106.4 113.59 113.59
Kabuto 112.04 106.39 117.59 113.5
Pikachu 104.04 106.03 112.08 113.32

Shuppet tier 105
Igglybuff 104.51 105.99 113.42 114.21
Combee 105.87 105.87 113.16 113.16
Buizel 106.9 105.86 114.15 113.51
Corphish 110.55 105.85 116.5 113.31
Shinx 105.83 105.83 113.33 113.33
Pidgey 106.51 105.57 113.7 113.09
Shuppet 105.94 105.54 113.38 113.13
Sandshrew 113.45 105.44 118.68 113.17
Bellsprout 106.48 105.44 113.81 113.17
Swinub 107.42 105.44 114.41 113.17
Doduo 106.89 105.08 113.89 112.72
Remoraid 105.08 105.08 112.72 112.72
Tyrogue 105.08 105.08 112.72 112.72

Ralts Tier 104
Wurmple 106.03 104.99 113.46 112.82
Bagon 110.09 104.99 116.17 112.82
Whismur 104.94 104.94 113.12 113.12
Spearow 104.53 104.74 112.45 112.58
Wooper 108.72 104.71 115.32 112.82
Rattata 104.57 104.57 112.33 112.33
Gastly 103.53 104.57 111.69 112.33
Geodude 113.96 104.53 119.08 112.45
Seedot 108.18 104.53 114.81 112.45
Taillow 104.53 104.53 112.45 112.45
Wingull 104.53 104.53 112.45 112.45
Starly 104.53 104.53 112.45 112.45
Ralts 102.17 104.36 110.84 112.17
Metapod 109.84 104.28 116.04 112.49
Silcoon 109.84 104.28 116.04 112.49
Cascoon 109.84 104.28 116.04 112.49
Diglett 100.05 104.06 109.28 111.78
Poochyena 105.08 104.04 112.72 112.08

Pichu Tier 103
Kakuna 108.65 103.84 115.17 112.13
Sunkern 103.53 103.53 111.69 111.69
Pichu 98.5 103.47 108.67 111.5

Deoxys Atk Tier 102
Deoxys Attack 102.99 102.99 111.76 111.76
Caterpie 106.03 102.54 113.46 111.41
Carvanha 102.54 102.54 111.41 111.41
Shellder 112.97 102.38 118.31 111
Krabby 112.04 102.38 117.59 111
Horsea 109.89 102.38 115.96 111
Weedle 104.53 102.08 112.45 111.04

Magikarp Tier 99
Magikarp 106.83 99.98 113.73 109.45

Shedinja Tier 47
Shedinja 50.74 47.89 55.00 53.18```
Special Modification list:
Code:
```
4x weak: -14.27 (Ice attacks Flying/Dragon)
2x weak: -7.27 (Fire attacks Grass)

-25%   : -3.09 ( 3x spikes, Stealth Rocks weak)
-18.25%: -2.18 (2x spikes)
-12.5% : -1.40 (1x spikes, Stealth Rocks)
-10%   : -1 (Nature change)

+10%   : +1 (nature change)
+50%   : 4.25 (Calm Mind, Bulk Up, Intimidate)
+100%  : 7.27 (Amnesia, Barrier, Reflect, Not very Effective)
+150%  : 9.61 (3x Calm Mind / etc. etc.)
+200%  : 11.53 (2x Amneisa)
+250%  : 13.14 (5x Calm Mind / etc. etc.)
+300%  : 14.54 (Max Amnesia/Barrier, 4x Resists)
```
The spikes information only works out on the first turn. But if you ever were curious to see Blissey vs Mantine in Sp. Def Tiers when 3 layers of spikes are on the field, there you go.

Oh, and and you can checkout this post if you want to see the 255/0 and 0/255 spreads.
2. Shank

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Wow, good work, that must of took you a long time.
3. TSPhoenix

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So what exactly does "Registeel : 120.91 120.91 125.69 125.69" translate to when trying to see how it fares against a Draco Meteor or Fire Blast?
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That's pretty sweet. Good work!
5. Dragontamer

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Okay, Draco Meteor is a special attack, so you take the special defense stats from the chart that best describes your Registeel (duh, but lets start at the top so I don't miss anything).

0/0 EVs in HP/SpDef makes it 120.91.

255/255 EVs in HP/SpDef makes it 125.69.

Assuming you have 0/0 EVs, then lets start with 120.91. I'm sorry that there are no other EV spreads avaliable than the maximum and minimum... but then the chart would be too ugly and hard to read. Just 2 EV spreads are avaliable right now and as you can tell, the numbers start to get a little overwhelming.

Now that that is done, we note that Registeel is 2x weak to Fire Blast, while 2x resistant to Draco Meteor. So for Fire Blast, Registeel's score is:

120.91 - 4.25 == 116.66

For Draco Meteor, Registeel score is:

120.91 + 4.25 == 125.16

So for Draco Meteor, Registeel would take the hit about the same as a Chancey(125.57) would take the hit after factoring the resistances.

For Fire Blast, Registeel would take the hit about as well as Mismagius would (116.15) after factoring the weakness.

See how it works? It doesn't give a "end-all be-all" number, it just gives a ball-park estimate relative to different pokemon.
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Cool. Nice job!
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oh? so its comparing pokemon! thats great actually, thanks :)
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If there are any other examples you want me to do, just ask.
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I figure an extended example would be helpful to describe exactly what a "tier" is. A tier is a 10% difference in % damage.

That may sound complex, but it really isn't. Here's the extended example where you can see that:
For example, in the 116 tier for 0/0 Special Defense, we got:

Flareon : 111.76 116.96 118.47 122.43
Drifblim : 114.46 116.03 121.14 122.21

Interesting... sorry... while they are .93 apart with 0/0, they are only .22 apart in the 255/255 spread for Special Defense...

Anyway, so to give another example of what a "tier" actually is, here are two pokemon about as far apart in tiers as they can be. Both are neutral to Normal, so lets see how they take a hit from 252 SpAtk Modest Porygon-Z Tri-Attack.

Using this site for damage calculations:
http://pokemon.marriland.com/damage.php

Porygon-Z, 255 SpAtk Modest
405 Sp. Atk.
80 Base Power + STAB

Flareon, 0/0 EVs and neutral nature
271 HP, 256 SpDef
"That attack will do between 138 and 162 damage!"
Or... 51% to 59.77% damage.

Driftblim, 0/0 EVs and neutral nature
441 HP, 144 SpDef
"That attack will do between 244 and 287 damage!"
Or... 55% to 65% damage.

While the HP damage may be very different between the pokemon, the actual % damage, how far the health bar goes down and not the actual HP stat, is very similar between these pokemon. This chart estimates the relative % damage of the pokemon. That is, Flareon takes on average 55% damage, while Driftblim takes on average 60% damage.

I hope this extended example can give yall an estimate of exactly what a tier is.
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Porygon-Z Used Tri-Attack!

Driftblim (A ghost/flying type), 0/0 EVs and neutral nature
441 HP, 144 SpDef
"That attack will do between 0 and 0 damage!"
Or... 0% to 0%

I'm sorry, the example was great to show the difference in damage taken compared to HP% taken, but......... you couldn't have chosen a worse attack to compare XD.

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Maybe the damage calculations used Foresight? :)

EDIT: If I'm assuming correctly, there has to be some "phantom damage" (no pun intended) taken into account before attacking Ghosts with Normal or Fighting moves before the immunity is used (i.e. the attack would have done 20% were it not for the immunity, for a random example).

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Dragontamer: A very solid list, although I'd actually like to see one more thing: A 0/255, 255/0 listing.

It would be useful when attempting to figure out where a wall falls on both lists, since you'll likely have max HP but perhaps not max special defense with Blissey, for example. Knowing where you stand on both tier listings would be rather useful, but perhaps might clutter the list a bit. Just a thought.
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Didn't you know? PorygonZ has the scrappy as an ability. :-p

Well... I guess if it isn't in the first post, then it wouldn't scare people off. I'll work on it.

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Excellent! =D I look forward to seeing it.
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Okay, the 255/0 and 0/255 lists are complete. I couldn't figure out a good way to order them, so I'm going with the default ordering of pokemon numerical order.

Format:

Name, 255 HP/ 0 Def, 255 HP/ 0 Sp.Def, 0 HP / 255 Def, 0 HP / 255 Sp. Def.
Code:
```    Bulbasaur : 111.02 113.27 112.53 114.11
Ivysaur   : 114.03 116.03 115.21 116.69
Venusaur  : 117.57 119.20 118.42 119.69
Charmander: 109.60 110.74 111.31 112.08
Charmeleon: 113.23 114.16 114.57 115.23
Charizard : 116.92 117.66 117.88 118.44
Squirtle  : 113.20 113.07 114.02 113.93
Wartortle : 115.97 115.97 116.61 116.61
Blastoise : 119.14 119.58 119.62 119.96
Caterpie  : 108.56 105.07 110.93 108.87
Metapod   : 112.27 106.72 113.60 110.05
Butterfree: 112.20 116.03 113.92 116.69
Weedle    : 107.16 104.71 109.82 108.41
Kakuna    : 111.18 106.37 112.64 109.60
Beedrill  : 110.85 116.35 113.20 117.08
Pidgey    : 109.14 108.20 111.06 110.46
Pidgeotto : 113.13 112.39 114.67 114.16
Pidgeot   : 116.87 116.29 117.98 117.55
Rattata   : 107.43 107.43 109.47 109.47
Raticate  : 113.31 114.57 114.52 115.43
Spearow   : 107.16 107.38 109.82 109.95
Fearow    : 114.61 114.09 115.79 115.42
Ekans     : 109.47 111.04 111.04 112.10
Arbok     : 114.78 115.92 115.75 116.60
Pikachu   : 106.78 108.77 109.34 110.58
Raichu    : 112.94 116.03 114.44 116.69
Sandshrew : 115.88 107.87 116.25 110.73
Sandslash : 119.76 113.87 120.01 115.58
Nidoran   : 112.17 110.20 113.72 112.40
Nidorina  : 115.17 113.57 116.35 115.21
Nidoqueen : 118.54 118.33 119.41 119.25
Nidoran   : 109.58 109.58 111.62 111.62
Nidorino  : 113.29 113.00 114.71 114.52
Nidoking  : 116.98 116.76 118.01 117.84
Clefairy  : 112.51 114.92 114.48 116.17
Clefable  : 117.30 119.10 118.60 119.96
Vulpix    : 109.00 112.76 110.87 113.46
Ninetales : 116.29 118.79 117.27 119.19
Jigglypuff: 109.16 110.45 113.85 114.57
Wigglytuff: 115.61 116.41 118.40 118.94
Zubat     : 108.20 109.14 110.46 111.06
Golbat    : 115.83 116.41 116.98 117.41
Oddish    : 111.92 113.27 113.15 114.11
Gloom     : 114.90 115.48 115.84 116.27
Vileplume : 117.48 117.98 118.22 118.61
Paras     : 111.18 111.18 112.20 112.20
Parasect  : 116.03 116.03 116.69 116.69
Venonat   : 112.20 112.94 113.92 114.44
Venomoth  : 114.26 116.11 115.70 117.05
Diglett   : 103.51 107.52 105.82 108.31
Dugtrio   : 110.44 113.14 111.69 113.61
Meowth    : 108.20 109.14 110.46 111.06
Persian   : 113.95 114.61 115.32 115.79
Psyduck   : 111.21 111.53 112.87 113.08
Golduck   : 117.04 117.25 118.02 118.18
Mankey    : 108.20 110.01 110.46 111.63
Primeape  : 113.95 115.22 115.32 116.24
Growlithe : 111.07 111.87 112.97 113.51
Arcanine  : 117.81 117.81 118.86 118.86
Poliwag   : 109.14 109.14 111.06 111.06
Poliwhirl : 114.61 112.51 115.79 114.32
Poliwrath : 119.31 118.83 120.01 119.64
Abra      : 102.06 110.39 106.10 111.16
Kadabra   : 107.16 113.52 109.82 114.10
Alakazam  : 111.07 116.22 112.97 116.67
Machop    : 112.82 110.21 114.70 112.98
Machoke   : 116.12 114.86 117.34 116.42
Machamp   : 117.81 118.33 118.86 119.25
Bellsprout: 108.91 107.87 111.37 110.73
Weepinbell: 112.51 111.71 114.32 113.77
Victreebel: 115.51 114.86 116.89 116.42
Tentacool : 108.20 116.60 110.46 116.45
Tentacruel: 115.51 120.84 116.89 121.01
Geodude   : 116.60 107.16 116.45 109.82
Graveler  : 118.91 111.07 118.79 112.97
Golem     : 121.58 115.51 121.61 116.89
Ponyta    : 112.27 113.62 113.60 114.56
Rapidash  : 115.22 116.35 116.24 117.08
Slowpoke  : 116.07 112.31 117.57 114.98
Slowbro   : 120.88 118.08 121.36 119.18
Magnemite : 112.35 110.39 112.57 111.16
Magneton  : 116.86 114.23 117.00 115.01
Farfetch  : 112.41 113.37 113.77 114.45
Doduo     : 109.64 107.82 111.15 109.98
Dodrio    : 114.90 113.64 115.84 114.93
Seel      : 113.26 115.22 114.83 116.24
Dewgong   : 117.81 119.31 118.86 120.01
Grimer    : 113.42 113.42 115.42 115.42
Muk       : 118.05 120.55 119.38 121.30
Shellder  : 115.83 105.24 115.45 108.14
Cloyster  : 122.74 110.73 121.85 112.54
Gastly    : 106.39 107.43 108.83 109.47
Haunter   : 110.38 111.92 112.10 113.15
Gengar    : 113.64 115.48 114.93 116.27
Onix      : 120.53 109.64 119.50 111.15
Drowzee   : 111.39 117.05 113.38 117.47
Hypno     : 116.41 120.74 117.68 121.03
Krabby    : 114.90 105.24 114.73 108.14
Kingler   : 118.91 111.87 118.79 113.51
Voltorb   : 110.81 111.56 112.18 112.69
Electrode : 114.90 116.03 115.84 116.69
Exeggcute : 116.03 111.39 116.69 113.38
Exeggutor : 118.60 116.34 119.58 117.89
Cubone    : 116.86 111.53 117.00 113.08
Marowak   : 118.83 116.03 118.87 116.69
Hitmonlee : 111.98 118.16 113.40 118.04
Hitmonchan: 115.25 118.16 115.77 118.04
Lickitung : 117.26 117.26 118.44 118.44
Koffing   : 116.14 110.01 116.09 111.63
Weezing   : 119.94 115.22 119.90 116.24
Rhyhorn   : 118.75 109.76 119.33 113.06
Rhydon    : 122.19 113.97 122.62 116.49
Chansey   : 108.96 126.56 117.03 127.97
Tangela   : 119.55 110.85 119.59 113.20
Horsea    : 112.75 105.24 113.10 108.14
Seadra    : 117.20 111.07 117.43 112.97
Goldeen   : 112.62 111.18 113.64 112.64
Seaking   : 115.51 117.25 116.89 118.18
Staryu    : 110.79 110.79 111.69 111.69
Starmie   : 116.55 116.55 117.08 117.08
Mr._Mime  : 112.90 118.24 113.65 117.76
Scyther   : 116.66 116.66 117.46 117.46
Jynx      : 109.90 117.84 112.60 118.23
Electabuzz: 113.54 116.87 115.03 117.48
Magmar    : 113.54 116.87 115.03 117.48
Pinsir    : 118.30 115.22 118.59 116.24
Tauros    : 118.45 115.83 118.98 116.98
Magikarp  : 109.96 103.11 110.60 106.32
Gyarados  : 117.97 120.03 119.10 120.69
Lapras    : 119.80 121.29 121.19 122.34
Ditto     : 111.08 111.08 112.70 112.70
Eevee     : 111.87 113.96 113.51 114.98
Vaporeon  : 117.40 121.29 119.43 122.34
Jolteon   : 113.95 117.84 115.32 118.23
Flareon   : 113.95 119.15 115.32 119.27
Porygon   : 115.22 115.80 116.24 116.67
Omanyte   : 116.22 111.18 115.96 112.20
Omastar   : 120.62 115.53 120.59 116.62
Kabuto    : 114.90 109.25 114.73 110.64
Kabutops  : 118.41 114.90 118.54 115.84
Aerodactyl: 115.51 116.70 116.89 117.77
Snorlax   : 119.33 123.88 121.36 124.84
Articuno  : 119.76 121.78 120.36 121.99
Zapdos    : 118.33 118.83 119.25 119.64
Moltres   : 118.83 118.33 119.64 119.25
Dratini   : 110.09 110.89 111.73 112.27
Dragonair : 114.35 114.97 115.47 115.92
Dragonite : 119.36 119.82 120.07 120.43
Mewtwo    : 119.67 119.67 120.63 120.63
Mew       : 120.29 120.29 121.00 121.00
Chikorita : 113.27 113.27 114.11 114.11
Bayleef   : 116.03 116.03 116.69 116.69
Meganium  : 119.20 119.20 119.69 119.69
Cyndaquil : 109.60 110.74 111.31 112.08
Quilava   : 113.23 114.16 114.57 115.23
Typhlosion: 116.92 117.66 117.88 118.44
Totodile  : 113.49 111.21 114.47 112.87
Croconaw  : 116.35 114.35 117.08 115.60
Feraligatr: 119.48 117.85 120.03 118.77
Sentret   : 107.62 109.64 109.85 111.15
Furret    : 115.67 114.45 117.14 116.27
Hoothoot  : 108.54 113.08 111.57 114.54
Noctowl   : 114.51 119.93 116.73 120.71
Ledyba    : 107.16 114.65 109.82 114.94
Ledian    : 111.87 118.50 113.51 118.46
Spinarak  : 109.14 109.14 111.06 111.06
Ariados   : 115.53 114.26 116.62 115.70
Crobat    : 117.54 117.54 118.52 118.52
Chinchou  : 111.09 114.01 113.71 115.68
Lanturn   : 116.90 119.13 118.97 120.60
Pichu     : 101.63 106.61 105.53 108.37
Cleffa    : 107.43 112.27 110.46 113.60
Igglybuff : 106.39 107.87 111.54 112.33
Togepi    : 112.53 112.53 113.16 113.16
Togetic   : 116.22 118.09 116.67 118.13
Natu      : 110.01 110.01 111.63 111.63
Xatu      : 115.22 115.22 116.24 116.24
Mareep    : 110.20 111.07 112.40 112.97
Flaaffy   : 113.57 114.26 115.21 115.70
Ampharos  : 117.26 118.83 118.44 119.64
Bellossom : 117.48 118.91 118.22 119.33
Marill    : 112.82 112.82 114.70 114.70
Azumarill : 118.35 118.35 119.49 119.49
Sudowoodo : 119.86 114.92 119.97 116.17
Politoed  : 117.26 119.76 118.44 120.36
Hoppip    : 108.77 111.18 110.58 112.20
Skiploom  : 111.87 113.96 113.51 114.98
Jumpluff  : 115.83 117.48 116.98 118.22
Aipom     : 112.61 112.61 114.03 114.03
Sunkern   : 106.39 106.39 108.83 108.83
Sunflora  : 113.87 117.48 115.58 118.22
Yanma     : 111.71 111.71 113.77 113.77
Wooper    : 111.07 107.06 112.97 110.48
Quagsire  : 118.60 116.34 119.58 117.89
Espeon    : 113.95 117.84 115.32 118.23
Umbreon   : 120.88 122.41 121.36 122.60
Murkrow   : 110.88 110.88 113.04 113.04
Slowking  : 118.08 120.88 119.18 121.36
Misdreavus: 113.64 116.55 114.93 117.08
Unown     : 111.08 111.08 112.70 112.70
Wobbuffet : 119.54 119.54 121.98 121.98
Girafarig : 114.92 114.92 116.17 116.17
Pineco    : 116.38 108.91 116.63 111.37
Forretress: 121.97 114.56 121.82 116.07
Dunsparce : 117.22 116.60 118.65 118.20
Gligar    : 118.73 114.61 118.93 115.79
Steelix   : 125.35 115.22 124.71 116.54
Snubbull  : 112.20 110.53 113.92 112.81
Granbull  : 117.26 115.42 118.44 117.10
Qwilfish  : 115.80 113.26 116.67 114.83
Scizor    : 118.61 116.66 118.97 117.46
Shuckle   : 122.80 122.80 120.92 120.92
Heracross : 116.70 118.75 117.77 119.33
Sneasel   : 112.61 115.15 114.03 115.86
Teddiursa : 112.20 112.20 113.92 113.92
Ursaring  : 117.26 117.26 118.44 118.44
Slugma    : 109.14 109.14 111.06 111.06
Magcargo  : 118.95 115.36 118.67 115.85
Swinub    : 109.86 107.87 111.97 110.73
Piloswine : 118.35 115.95 119.49 117.73
Corsola   : 116.22 116.22 116.67 116.67
Remoraid  : 107.82 107.82 109.98 109.98
Octillery : 116.41 116.41 117.41 117.41
Delibird  : 110.38 110.38 112.10 112.10
Mantine   : 115.22 121.36 116.24 121.07
Skarmory  : 121.36 115.22 121.07 116.24
Houndour  : 107.52 111.18 110.29 112.64
Houndoom  : 113.12 116.96 115.06 117.83
Kingdra   : 118.45 118.45 118.98 118.98
Phanpy    : 115.42 112.31 117.10 114.98
Donphan   : 121.40 115.42 121.68 117.10
Porygon2  : 118.56 119.03 119.31 119.67
Stantler  : 114.71 115.10 116.11 116.39
Smeargle  : 109.25 111.07 111.80 112.97
Tyrogue   : 107.82 107.82 109.98 109.98
Hitmontop : 116.86 118.16 117.00 118.04
Smoochum  : 103.59 113.27 108.09 114.11
Elekid    : 108.95 111.92 111.17 113.15
Magby     : 108.95 111.92 111.17 113.15
Miltank   : 120.47 116.95 121.03 118.34
Blissey   : 111.18 128.99 118.12 129.99
Raikou    : 117.26 119.76 118.44 120.36
Entei     : 119.62 118.55 120.77 119.96
Suicune   : 121.55 121.55 122.00 122.00
Larvitar  : 111.53 111.53 113.08 113.08
Pupitar   : 115.53 115.53 116.62 116.62
Tyranitar : 121.15 120.29 121.68 121.00
Lugia     : 122.98 124.55 123.28 124.60
Ho-oh     : 119.67 124.55 120.63 124.60
Celebi    : 120.29 120.29 121.00 121.00
Treecko   : 108.20 111.56 110.46 112.69
Grovyle   : 110.73 113.62 112.54 114.56
Sceptile  : 114.92 117.18 116.17 117.86
Torchic   : 109.51 111.18 111.53 112.64
Combusken : 113.64 113.64 114.93 114.93
Blaziken  : 116.12 116.12 117.34 117.34
Mudkip    : 111.53 111.53 113.08 113.08
Marshtomp : 115.53 115.53 116.62 116.62
Swampert  : 119.36 119.36 120.27 120.27
Poochyena : 107.82 106.78 109.98 109.34
Mightyena : 115.53 114.26 116.62 115.70
Zigzagoon : 109.17 109.17 110.99 110.99
Linoone   : 114.87 114.87 116.38 116.38
Wurmple   : 108.56 107.52 110.93 110.29
Silcoon   : 112.27 106.72 113.60 110.05
Beautifly : 112.20 112.20 113.92 113.92
Cascoon   : 112.27 106.72 113.60 110.05
Dustox    : 114.90 117.05 115.84 117.47
Lotad     : 107.16 110.81 109.82 112.18
Lombre    : 112.20 114.90 113.92 115.84
Ludicolo  : 116.12 119.20 117.34 119.69
Seedot    : 110.81 107.16 112.18 109.82
Nuzleaf   : 111.16 111.16 113.58 113.58
Shiftry   : 115.42 115.42 117.10 117.10
Taillow   : 107.16 107.16 109.82 109.82
Swellow   : 113.64 112.20 114.93 113.92
Wingull   : 107.16 107.16 109.82 109.82
Pelipper  : 117.98 114.90 118.19 115.84
Ralts     : 105.08 107.27 107.93 109.25
Kirlia    : 108.05 111.41 110.27 112.50
Gardevoir : 114.79 119.74 116.02 119.82
Surskit   : 107.59 111.12 110.08 112.38
Masquerain: 114.53 116.87 115.89 117.62
Shroomish : 113.64 113.64 114.93 114.93
Breloom   : 116.03 113.64 116.69 114.93
Slakoth   : 113.64 109.58 114.93 112.21
Vigoroth  : 117.25 114.16 118.18 115.93
Slaking   : 122.61 118.92 123.70 120.90
Nincada   : 114.98 106.47 114.83 108.93
Ninjask   : 111.46 112.26 113.46 114.00
Shedinja  : 106.64 103.79 107.07 105.25
Whismur   : 107.14 107.14 110.92 110.92
Loudred   : 112.51 112.51 114.93 114.93
Exploud   : 116.55 116.55 118.26 118.26
Makuhita  : 109.29 109.29 112.49 112.49
Hariyama  : 118.02 118.02 120.14 120.14
Azurill   : 109.86 109.86 111.97 111.97
Nosepass  : 118.56 114.90 117.66 114.73
Skitty    : 110.73 108.91 112.54 111.37
Delcatty  : 114.92 113.57 116.17 115.21
Sableye   : 114.81 113.62 115.44 114.56
Mawile    : 115.88 112.27 116.25 113.60
Aron      : 117.31 109.86 117.36 111.97
Lairon    : 121.04 112.20 120.68 113.92
Aggron    : 124.04 114.26 123.46 115.70
Meditite  : 110.79 110.79 111.69 111.69
Medicham  : 115.48 115.48 116.27 116.27
Electrike : 109.14 109.14 111.06 111.06
Manectric : 114.26 114.26 115.70 115.70
Plusle    : 110.53 115.48 112.81 116.27
Minun     : 112.20 116.55 113.92 117.08
Volbeat   : 113.26 115.80 114.83 116.67
Illumise  : 113.26 115.80 114.83 116.67
Roselia   : 110.73 115.36 112.54 115.85
Gulpin    : 113.28 113.28 115.01 115.01
Swalot    : 118.66 118.66 119.73 119.73
Carvanha  : 105.07 105.07 108.87 108.87
Sharpedo  : 111.16 111.16 113.58 113.58
Wailmer   : 113.35 113.35 116.71 116.71
Wailord   : 116.83 116.83 119.79 119.79
Numel     : 110.53 111.39 112.81 113.38
Camerupt  : 115.53 116.11 116.62 117.05
Torkoal   : 121.67 115.53 121.45 116.62
Spoink    : 109.58 116.03 112.21 116.69
Grumpig   : 115.51 120.05 116.89 120.37
Spinda    : 113.64 113.64 114.93 114.93
Trapinch  : 110.38 110.38 112.10 112.10
Vibrava   : 111.53 111.53 113.08 113.08
Flygon    : 117.25 117.25 118.18 118.18
Cacnea    : 109.86 109.86 111.97 111.97
Cacturne  : 114.26 114.26 115.70 115.70
Swablu    : 112.62 114.46 113.64 114.99
Altaria   : 117.98 119.34 118.61 119.68
Zangoose  : 114.45 114.45 115.92 115.92
Seviper   : 114.45 114.45 115.92 115.92
Lunatone  : 114.92 117.18 116.17 117.86
Solrock   : 117.18 114.92 117.86 116.17
Barboach  : 110.39 110.04 112.32 112.09
Whiscash  : 118.07 117.84 119.51 119.33
Corphish  : 113.12 108.42 113.93 110.74
Crawdaunt : 116.74 113.13 117.32 114.67
Baltoy    : 111.56 113.52 112.69 114.10
Claydol   : 118.41 119.62 118.54 119.51
Lileep    : 116.09 117.14 116.91 117.71
Cradily   : 119.27 120.15 119.89 120.58
Anorith   : 111.18 111.18 112.64 112.64
Armaldo   : 118.91 116.96 119.33 117.83
Feebas    : 103.11 109.96 106.32 110.60
Milotic   : 117.97 122.05 119.10 122.31
Castform  : 115.53 115.53 116.62 116.62
Kecleon   : 114.90 119.62 115.84 119.51
Shuppet   : 108.49 108.09 110.83 110.58
Banette   : 114.54 114.29 115.71 115.53
Duskull   : 114.07 114.07 113.63 113.63
Dusclops  : 118.97 118.97 118.37 118.37
Tropius   : 118.61 119.02 119.67 119.98
Chimecho  : 115.22 116.35 116.24 117.08
Absol     : 113.95 113.95 115.32 115.32
Wynaut    : 113.93 113.93 116.20 116.20
Snorunt   : 111.53 111.53 113.08 113.08
Glalie    : 117.25 117.25 118.18 118.18
Spheal    : 112.82 112.82 114.70 114.70
Sealeo    : 116.68 116.68 118.01 118.01
Walrein   : 119.87 119.87 120.87 120.87
Clamperl  : 114.79 111.18 114.85 112.20
Huntail   : 118.09 115.15 118.13 115.86
Gorebyss  : 118.09 115.15 118.13 115.86
Relicanth : 122.67 116.60 122.92 118.20
Luvdisc   : 111.78 113.12 112.97 113.93
Bagon     : 112.62 107.52 113.64 110.29
Shelgon   : 118.30 112.51 118.59 114.32
Salamence : 118.08 118.08 119.18 119.18
Beldum    : 114.65 112.25 114.94 113.18
Metang    : 117.98 116.03 118.19 116.69
Metagross : 121.58 118.27 121.61 118.96
Regirock  : 125.64 119.20 125.06 119.69
Regice    : 119.20 125.64 119.69 125.06
Registeel : 122.91 122.91 122.72 122.72
Latias    : 118.27 121.58 118.96 121.61
Latios    : 117.25 120.05 118.18 120.37
Kyogre    : 119.36 123.36 120.27 123.49
Groudon   : 123.36 119.36 123.49 120.27
Rayquaza  : 119.62 119.62 120.57 120.57
Jirachi   : 120.29 120.29 121.00 121.00
Deoxys    : 111.53 111.53 113.08 113.08
Turtwig   : 113.83 112.61 114.89 114.03
Grotle    : 117.48 115.22 118.22 116.54
Torterra  : 120.47 118.60 121.03 119.58
Chimchar  : 110.14 110.14 111.90 111.90
Monferno  : 112.76 112.76 114.45 114.45
Infernape : 116.01 116.01 117.14 117.14
Piplup    : 112.19 112.62 113.65 113.96
Prinplup  : 114.92 115.85 115.98 116.67
Empoleon  : 118.30 119.52 119.09 120.03
Starly    : 107.16 107.16 109.82 109.82
Staravia  : 111.87 110.20 113.51 112.40
Staraptor : 116.41 113.70 117.68 115.76
Bidoof    : 110.46 110.46 112.73 112.73
Bibarel   : 114.80 114.80 116.35 116.35
Kricketot : 109.10 109.10 110.89 110.89
Kricketune: 113.40 113.40 115.31 115.31
Shinx     : 108.36 108.36 110.80 110.80
Luxio     : 112.04 112.04 113.81 113.81
Luxray    : 117.14 117.14 118.10 118.10
Budew     : 108.20 113.52 110.46 114.10
Roserade  : 112.94 118.41 114.44 118.54
Cranidos  : 110.97 108.99 113.36 112.11
Rampardos : 115.79 114.35 117.54 116.54
Shieldon  : 117.32 114.70 116.64 114.57
Bastiodon : 122.75 120.91 122.13 120.57
Burmy     : 110.01 110.01 111.63 111.63
Wormadam  : 116.55 118.41 117.08 118.54
Mothim    : 112.82 112.82 114.70 114.70
Combee    : 108.73 108.73 110.30 110.30
Vespiquen : 118.78 118.78 119.11 119.11
Pachirisu : 114.90 117.05 115.84 117.47
Buizel    : 109.25 108.21 111.80 111.16
Floatzel  : 114.45 113.70 116.27 115.76
Cherubi   : 110.38 111.63 112.10 112.95
Cherrim   : 115.53 116.44 116.62 117.30
Shellos   : 112.87 114.89 114.92 116.33
Gastrodon : 117.53 119.11 119.13 120.31
Ambipom   : 115.34 115.34 116.63 116.63
Drifloon  : 111.16 113.01 114.25 115.44
Drifblim  : 115.86 117.43 118.77 119.84
Buneary   : 110.90 112.75 112.86 114.13
Lopunny   : 116.77 117.94 117.40 118.30
Mismagius : 113.64 118.41 114.93 118.54
Honchkrow : 114.82 114.82 116.93 116.93
Glameow   : 110.14 109.23 112.12 111.53
Purugly   : 114.85 114.19 116.15 115.68
Chingling : 111.18 111.18 112.64 112.64
Stunky    : 111.91 110.90 113.84 113.16
Skuntank  : 117.01 116.24 118.56 118.01
Bronzor   : 116.46 116.46 116.92 116.92
Bronzong  : 119.76 119.76 119.81 119.81
Bonsly    : 116.86 110.73 117.00 112.54
Mime_Jr.  : 108.42 114.07 109.54 113.63
Happiny   : 103.14 116.60 110.41 118.20
Chatot    : 112.38 111.87 114.59 114.25
Spiritomb : 118.00 118.00 117.90 117.90
Gible     : 111.26 111.26 113.22 113.22
Gabite    : 114.79 113.45 116.02 115.06
Garchomp  : 120.25 119.28 121.12 120.37
Munchlax  : 114.52 120.54 117.57 121.85
Riolu     : 109.14 109.14 111.06 111.06
Lucario   : 115.53 115.53 116.62 116.62
Hippopotas: 116.32 111.39 117.15 113.67
Hippowdon : 122.19 117.86 122.67 119.30
Skorupi   : 115.67 111.56 115.72 112.69
Drapion   : 119.46 116.11 119.65 117.05
Croagunk  : 109.72 109.72 111.80 111.80
Toxicroak : 115.68 115.68 117.10 117.10
Carnivine : 116.01 116.01 117.09 117.09
Finneon   : 112.35 113.03 113.61 114.10
Lumineon  : 116.16 117.22 117.06 117.86
Mantyke   : 111.18 118.60 112.64 118.23
Snover    : 112.20 113.64 113.92 114.93
Abomasnow : 117.26 118.33 118.44 119.25
Weavile   : 114.92 117.18 116.17 117.86
Magnezone : 119.86 117.68 119.97 118.24
Lickilicky: 120.35 120.35 121.24 121.24
Rhyperior : 123.42 116.01 123.80 118.13
Tangrowth : 122.31 114.51 122.62 116.73
Electivire: 115.47 117.48 116.72 118.22
Magmortar : 115.47 118.45 116.72 118.98
Togekiss  : 119.03 120.74 119.67 121.03
Yanmega   : 118.22 114.64 119.07 116.44
Leafeon   : 120.67 114.61 120.51 115.79
Glaceon   : 119.15 117.84 119.27 118.23
Gliscor   : 120.92 116.41 120.96 117.41
Mamoswine : 118.85 116.46 120.09 118.33
Porygon-Z : 116.41 116.99 117.68 118.11
Gallade   : 114.79 119.74 116.02 119.82
Probopass : 121.37 121.69 120.95 121.22
Dusknoir  : 119.68 119.68 119.12 119.12
Froslass  : 115.53 115.53 116.62 116.62
Rotom     : 115.04 115.04 115.60 115.60
Uxie      : 121.28 121.28 121.25 121.25
Mesprit   : 119.64 119.64 120.03 120.03
Azelf     : 115.83 115.83 116.98 116.98
Dialga    : 121.94 120.29 122.32 121.00
Palkia    : 119.76 121.40 120.36 121.68
Heatran   : 120.34 120.34 120.84 120.84
Regigigas : 121.65 121.65 122.28 122.28
Giratina  : 124.26 124.26 125.01 125.01
Cresselia : 122.93 123.66 123.48 124.08
Phione    : 117.25 117.25 118.18 118.18
Manaphy   : 120.29 120.29 121.00 121.00
Darkrai   : 117.68 117.68 118.24 118.24
Shaymin   : 120.29 120.29 121.00 121.00
Arceus    : 122.93 122.93 123.48 123.48
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16. Treedweller

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Wow, these are incredibly useful Dragontamer, and thanks much for taking the time to create and compile them. They'll certainly save me a lot of time when looking for decent walls for my teams.
17. Vampy34

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Dude, this list is freaking awesome!

And holy shit. Thats alot of time "wasted"
18. Dragontamer

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Erm... I just realized that there was a major flaw in my calculations for 2x Weakness/Resist and 4x weak/resists. So yeah... list of manipulations updated.
19. Dragontamer

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I just discovered that all pokemon within a tier list of each other will in fact be within the "random damage range" of each other. For example, in the Driftblim/flareon example (yeah yeah yeah, flawed as it is because of tri attack and all...) Driftblim's minimum damage is 55%, while Flareon's damage range was between 51% and 59%. Thus, the two ranges of damage overlaps.

For all pokemon within a tier list of each other, for all attacks for all opponents (aside from weaknesses and other circumstances), any attack used on a pokemon in the same tier list will be within the range of damage due to the random number generator.

I tried to explain this shortly in an edit in the original post... but if it doesn't make sense, I'll remove it :-p
20. Dragontamer

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SpecMence 252 Sp. Atk Fire Blast vs Registeel.

(salamence + fireblast + super effective + choice specs - magic number)
60.49 + 50.23 + 7.27 + 4.25 - 2.65 == 119.59

119.59 - 120.91 == -1.32. Maybe about 88% damage? (which is 1.1 ^ (-1.32) if you're wondering)

According to Metalkid... Damage: 82.72% - 97.34%...

Lol, I gotta start trusting this blind math here else I'd be just running Metalkid's calculator over and over instead of actually going with the flow here :-p
21. Ikaeru

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I'm entirely curious as to how stealth-rock/spikes damage would effect a pokemon's def-tier (for the sake of increasing my team's guaranteed OHKO list.) I made a few guesses based upon the obvious...

If -personality's (X*.9)Y is -1, wouldn't neutral stealth-rock's (X*.875)Y just be -1.25 tiers?

I suppose (unless I'm horribly mistaken about this...) that this is something totally obvious that I simply haven't heard said out loud yet?
22. Dragontamer

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Actually... it is more complex than that. The explanation was in the old topic for how to do calculations like that, but... it just serves to scare more people away from this system.

I did calculate this however. And because stealth rock tends to be more useful in attacks, I suggest looking at the attack tiers, the counter-part to the Defense Tiers list. The charts are compatible....

*checks*
Actually, I distinctly remember running these calculations for Spikes and Stealth Rocks. But where the hell are they? Erm, here's the list for Stealth Rocks...

0.33 for 4x resist (Lucario)
0.67 for 2x resist (Hitmontop)
1.40 for neutral (Most Pokemon)
3.01 for 2x weak (Togekiss)
7.27 for 4x weak (Charizard)

It is non-intuitive to come up with these things... but I'm sure you can see that it works quite well. If you REALLY want to know the formula... just ask :-)
23. hibachi

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Dragontamer, you are a genius. I find myself using metalkid's calc very often :D
24. Dragontamer

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Shoddybattle news :-)

You can now calculate the defense tier of your pokemon using the new ShoddyBattle plugin system! Its really simple.

2. Go to the team builder.
5. When you're on the pokemon you like, click on plugins->Calculate Defense Tier

And volia! The defense tier of your pokemon is instantly calculated.
25. darkiejust remember no caps when you spell the mans name

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Ahah! I was waiting for this after you told me about it.

Edit. Strange, I get an error message: "Plugin Failed to Load"