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Deino (Analysis) [QC 0/2]

Discussion in 'Locked / Outdated Analyses' started by Heysup, Oct 3, 2010.

  1. Heysup

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    http://veekun.com/dex/pokemon/monozu

    [Overview]


    • Mozonu is one of the most unique Pokemon in Little Cup, due to its ability and typing.
    • It has pretty good resistances and one immunity.
    • One-dimensional due to Hustle, but very dangerous.

    [SET]
    name: Choice Scarf
    move 1: Crunch
    move 2: Outrage
    move 3: Fire Fang
    move 4: Ice Fang / Draco Meteor
    item: Choice Scarf
    ability: Hustle
    nature: Jolly / Hasty
    evs: 20 HP / 236 Atk / 36 Def / 212 Spe

    Set Description:
    • Very hard to switch into since it packs great overage and powerful STAB attacks.
    • Coverage makes him an effective revenge killer, however Attacks are innacurate.
    • Outrage and Crunch hit hard, Outrage is for sweeping late game while Crunch does a lot of damage.
    • Fire Fang hits Steel-types super effectively.
    • Ice Fang hits Gligar and other Dragons super effectively (without resorting to Outrage).
    Additional Comments:

    • Draco Meteor makes a decent hit and run attack if you feel like putting your spare EVs in Special Attack.
    Teammates and Counters:
    • Croagunk's Vacuum Wave ruins its day. Wynaut is a great counter for Croagunk.
    • Ice Shard ruins its day. Bronzor can help with excellent defenses and Stealth Rock.

    [Team Options]


    • Something to remove Pokemon faster than 21, since that's the best way to stop Monozu.
    • Wynaut is effective at removing Scarfers, while the ones it doesn't beat are taken care of by Stealth Rock.
    • Ghost-types are excellent at absorbing priority attacks, namely Ghosts that have a secondary typing to resist Bullet Punch and Ice Shard or Aqua Jet.
    [Optional Changes]
    • A special set or mixed set could work since Monozu has access to Draco Meteor, Earth Power, and Dark Pulse, however it's Special Attack is generally just too low.
    [Counters]


    • If forced to Outrage, Steels can stop it, but they need full HP to take a 270 Base Power Outrage.
    • Wynaut can take it out with Counter if it switches into Ice Fang or Fire Fang.
    • Croagunk has priority to OHKO it.
    • Anything with Ice Shard can revenge kill it.
  2. Heysup

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  3. Dracolosse

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    Probably not very important but the moves on the special set are unffacted by Hustle, so no accuracy drop. This means a mixed set could be viable with its great special movepool and hustle outrage stomping Munchlax.
  4. Heysup

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    It's SpA is just so shitty, especially in this Evolution Stone Metagame...45 base SpA isn't going to cut it.
  5. Paradoxus

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    This really needs to be updated with the English name (Deino) and correct format.
  6. Crux

    Crux i want it...

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    Update with correct format and english names, then stampd as this is otherwise fine
  7. Zephyr

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    What Crux said, I also don't say this often, but I'd also like some more details on the set.
  8. Darkamber8828

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    Meditite and Timburr too!

    Maybe mention Head Smash? Sure, it's got terrible accuracy and doesn't really give much bonus coverage, but it's HEAD SMASH.

    What about a Substitute set? It's got okay speed and nice resists, and the thought of LO Hustle'd Outrage from a Deino with a sub...
  9. Heysup

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    I haven't even tested this in the current metagame. I'll get on it soon, but I'm currently busy.
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    This can be taken over
  11. Zephyr

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    Got it. I'll make a new thread shortly.
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    This has been taken over.

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