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Dodrio (Analysis)

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  1. Cybertron

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    Dodrio

    [Overview]

    <p>Although Dodrio has a decent base 100 Speed and an impressive base 110 Attack, its poor defenses and typing deny it a chance to shine in the VGC 2012 metagame. Dodrio is also unfortunately outclassed by the likes of Straptor, which has the exact same typing as it as well as a higher Attack stat. However, with access to Brave Bird, Dodrio is able to KO some of the most common Pokemon, including Hitmontop, Abomasnow, Volcarona, and Ludicolo. Despite the fact that Dodrio has poor defenses and only average offensive stats, when partnered correctly, it can get some surprising KOs.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Physical Attacker
    move 1: Brave Bird
    move 2: Return
    move 3: Quick Attack / Taunt
    move 4: Protect
    item: Flying Gem
    ability: Early Bird
    nature: Jolly
    evs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>This set's goal is to hit as hard as possible with two of Dodrio's strongest STAB attacking moves, Brave Bird and Return. Brave Bird KOes Hitmontop, Toxicroak, Abomasnow, and Ludicolo without rain before they are able to hit Dodrio. Return gives Dodrio more coverage, allowing it to hit Electric-types harder and not take any recoil damage. Quick Attack is excellent, finishing off Focus Sash users along with Pokemon that are close to fainting. It also allows Dodrio to deal some quick damage before getting KOed. However, Taunt can also be used to stop the likes of Cresselia and Amoonguss as Dodrio outspeeds them. Protect is necessary to increase Dodrio's longevity while its partner takes out common threats.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>Dodrio's EV spread is straightforward, but effective. With a Jolly nature and maximum Speed investment, it outspeeds anything with less than base 100 Speed. The rest of the EVs are dumped into Attack, allowing Dodrio to dish out as much damage as possible. Although Focus Sash is an excellent item, ensuring Dodrio can get at least one attack off before fainting, Brave Bird will KO Dodrio after it uses it. With a Flying Gem, Dodrio is able to get an incredibly powerful Brave Bird off, sending all Fighting-type Pokemon to oblivion.</p>

    <p>Since Dodrio's Speed is only a decent, it appreciates being partnered with Pokemon who can slow down the opposing team with moves such as Thunder Wave and Icy Wind. Cresselia is an excellent example, disrupting the opponent's team while assisting Dodrio's offensive abilities. Dodrio also partners well with Fake Out users such as Hitmontop, Infernape, and Mienshao, all of which can use Fake Out to flinch faster Pokemon while Dodrio finishes the job with Brave Bird. Since Dodrio is completely walled by Rock- and Steel-type Pokemon, it works great alongside Fighting- and Ground-type Pokemon. Terrakion has access to Rock Slide and Close Combat, taking out Pokemon that otherwise render Dodrio useless. Garchomp has access to Earthquake and Rock Slide and takes advantage of Dodrio's Flying-type to spam Earthquake. Tyranitar is slightly slower than both Terrakion and Garchomp but has more bulk, as well as access to Rock Slide and Low Kick.</p>

    [Other Options]

    <p>Unfortunately, Dodrio's movepool is incredibly limited, and it doesn't have access to many other good moves. Steel Wing can hit Rock-types such as Tyranitar for decent damage, but Rock-types other than Tyranitar and Terrakion aren't so common. Toxic allows Dodrio to shut down walls such as Cresselia before it is KOed but runs into the risk of being ruined by either Lum Berries or Rest. Sunny Day can be used to support a sun team, for obvious reasons. Drill Peck is an alternative option to Brave Bird; however, since Dodrio is already not very strong, Drill Peck will not get as many KOs as Brave Bird. The recoil damage is often insignificant since Dodrio will go down to a hit or two regardless. Focus Sash can be used to ensure that Dodrio gets one attack off before getting KOed, but since Brave Bird is often the main attack, it will just KO Dodrio after being used.</p>

    [Checks and Counters]

    <p>Since Dodrio's defensive stats are rather poor, it is easily OHKOed by strong STAB attacks. Examples include Zapdos's Thunderbolt and Tyranitar's Rock Slide. Electric-, Steel-, and Rock-type Pokemon, such as Zapdos, Thundurus, Metagross, and Tyranitar, all wall Dodrio, leaving it helpless. Dodrio also does not fare well against defensive walls that can soak hits, such as Cresselia. Sableye threatens to burn Dodrio with Will-o-Wisp and can use Trick to steal its Flying Gem.</p>
  2. PttP

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    beautiful set, but i would want more of an emphasis on dodrio's POWER
  3. dragonboy52

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    uhh Brave Bird should never be used with Focus Sash.....
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    Ahh, right. Let me fix that
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    Mention teammates in Additional Comments.
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    As in potential Pokemon that function well with Dodrio up in front, or Pokemon that will work in the same team in general with Dodrio?
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    pokemon that pair well with dodrio and pokemon that dodrio can support.

    edit: ballabrown24 the dodrio expert has SPOKEN
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    pokemon that dodrio can support/get helped by
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    Okay, I will think about what I should mention.

    Thanks
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    Okay, now about this set, it looks almost exactly like Staraptor, but worse. Dodrio is outclassed by so many other flying-types do a well amount more damage, have better defenses, and need less support to work. Dodrio just doesn't have that niche that makes it stand out above other flying-types.

    However, If you want to make it work, here's some of my advice if I was writing this. Unslash Taunt and put it in OO. Slash in Endeavor with Return(Which should be replaced or slashed with Double Edge) to use it when you are brought down to your sash. And you need to really add more detail and content in your paragraphs. Look at other analysis and see examples of this. Lots of stuff to be fixed about this analysis. I just don't know where to start =/
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    biosci, that's filler text from the template.
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    the fuck.... e_e That's weird
  13. Sevrah

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    I removed the filler text. I forgot to remove it when I posted the analysis, sorry. :x
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    Focus Sash and Brave Bird shouldn't both be first slashes, that is implying you should use them together. Pick one pair, sash+drill peck, gem+brave bird, and put it first in both places.
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    I just took care of that. I put Focus Sash + Drill Peck in OO.

    Thank you for your help! <3
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    I'm gonna QC this pretending like its a skeleton, because the content is about as good as Dodrio can be I think. You need to flesh out the analysis a lot more however.

    1/2
  17. Sevrah

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    I can add some more content to this analysis to flesh it out some more.

    Thanks for the QC!
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    I'm going to finish this up since Servah has not been on for almost two weeks and this hasn't been updated in almost a month.
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    Looks fine QC 2 / 2
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    Thanks, ready for GP checks now! This thing is actually pretty fun to use on PO lol, OHKOes Latios gg no re
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    [Overview]

    <p>Although Dodrio has a decent base 100 Speed and an impressive base 110 Attack, its poor defenses and typing deny it a chance to shine in the VGC 2012 metagame. It is also unfortunately outclassed by the likes of Straptor. However, with access to Brave Bird, Dodrio is able to KO some of the most common Pokemon, including Hitmontop, Abomasnow, Volcarona, and Ludicolo. Despite the fact that Dodrio has poor defenses and only average offensive stats, when partnered correctly, it can get some surprising KOs.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Physical Attacker
    move 1: Brave Bird
    move 2: Return
    move 3: Quick Attack / Taunt
    move 4: Protect
    item: Flying Gem
    ability: Early Bird
    nature: Jolly
    evs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>TThis set's goal is to hit as hard as possible with two of Dodrio's strongest STAB attacking moves, Brave Bird and Return. Brave Bird KOes Hitmontop, Toxicroak, Abomasnow, and Ludicolo without rain before they are able to hit Dodrio. Return gives Dodrio more coverage, letting it hit Electric-types harder, and allows for it to attack without taking any recoil damage. Quick Attack is excellent to finish off Focus Sash users along with Pokemon that have are close to fainting. It also allows for Dodrio to deal some quick damage before getting KOed. However, Taunt can also be used to stop the likes of Cresselia and Amoonguss as Dodrio outspeeds them. Protect is necessary to increase Dodrio's longevity while its partner to takes out common threats.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>Dodrio's EV spread is relatively straightforward, but effective. With a Jolly nature and max Speed investment, it outspeeds anything with less than base 100 Speed. The rest of the EVs are dumped into Attack to allow Dodrio to dish out as much damage as possible. Although Focus Sash is an excellent item, ensuring Dodrio can get at least one attack off before fainting, Brave Bird will KO Dodrio after it uses it. With a Flying Gem, Dodrio is able to get an incredibly powerful Brave Bird off, sending all Fighting-type Pokemon to oblivion.</p>

    <p>Since Dodrio's Speed is only a decent base 100, it appreciates being partnered with Pokemon who can slow down the opposing team with moves such as Thunder Wave and Icy Wind. Cresselia is an excellent example, disrupting your opponent's team while assisting Dodrio's offensive abilities. Dodrio also partners well with Fake Out users such as Hitmontop, Infernape, and Mienshao, which can use Fake Out to flinch faster Pokemon while Dodrio finishes the job with Brave Bird. Since Dodrio is completely walled by Rock- and Steel-type Pokemon, it works great alongside Fighting- and Ground-type Pokemon. Terrakion has access to Rock Slide and Close Combat, taking out Pokemon that otherwise render Dodrio useless. Garchomp has access to Earthquake and Rock Slide and takes advantage of Dodrio's Flying-type to spam Earthquake. Tyranitar is slightly slower than both Terrakion and Garchomp but has more bulk, as well as access to Rock Slide and Low Kick.</p>

    [Other Options]

    <p>Unfortunately, Dodrio's moveset is incredibly limited, and it doesn't have access to many other good moves. Steel Wing can be used to hit Rock-types such as Tyranitar for good damage, but Rock-types other than Tyranitar and Terrakion aren't so common. Toxic allows Dodrio to shut down walls such as Cresselia before it is KOed, but runs into the risk of being ruined by Lum Berries and Rest. Sunny Day sets up Sun on a Sun team when it is not up. Drill Peck is an alternative option to Brave Bird. However, since Dodrio is already not very strong, Drill Peck will not get as many KOs as Brave Bird. does. The recoil damage is often insignificant since Dodrio will go down to a hit or two regardless. Focus Sash can be used to ensure that Dodrio gets one attack off before getting KOed, but since Brave Bird is often the main attack, it will just KO Dodrio after being used. </p>

    [Checks and Counters]

    <p>Since Dodrio's defensive stats are rather poor, it is easily OHKOed by strong STAB attacks. Examples include Zapdos's Thunderbolt and Tyranitar's Rock Slide. Electric-, Steel-, and Rock-type Pokemon all wall Dodrio, such as Zapdos, Thundurus, Metagross and Tyranitar. Dodrio also does not fare well against defensive walls that can soak hits, such as Cresselia. Sableye threatens to burn Dodrio with Will-o-Wisp and use Trick to steal its Flying Gem.</p>


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    Changes made, thank you! 1 more!
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    [Overview]

    <p>Although Dodrio has a decent base 100 Speed and an impressive base 110 Attack, its poor defenses and typing deny it a chance to shine in the VGC 2012 metagame. It is also unfortunately outclassed by the likes of Straptor <WHY>. However, with access to Brave Bird, Dodrio is able to KO some of the most common Pokemon, including Hitmontop, Abomasnow, Volcarona, and Ludicolo. Despite the fact that Dodrio has poor defenses and only average offensive stats, when partnered correctly, it can get some surprising KOs.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Physical Attacker
    move 1: Brave Bird
    move 2: Return
    move 3: Quick Attack / Taunt
    move 4: Protect
    item: Flying Gem
    ability: Early Bird
    nature: Jolly
    evs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>This set's goal is to hit as hard as possible with two of Dodrio's strongest STAB attacking moves, Brave Bird and Return. Brave Bird KOes Hitmontop, Toxicroak, Abomasnow, and Ludicolo without rain before they are able to hit Dodrio. Return gives Dodrio more coverage, allowing it to hit Electric-types harder and not take any recoil damage. Quick Attack is excellent, finishing off Focus Sash users along with Pokemon that are close to fainting. It also allows Dodrio to deal some quick damage before getting KOed. However, Taunt can also be used to stop the likes of Cresselia and Amoonguss as Dodrio outspeeds them. Protect is necessary to increase Dodrio's longevity while its partner takes out common threats.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>Dodrio's EV spread is straightforward, but effective. With a Jolly nature and maximum Speed investment, it outspeeds anything with less than base 100 Speed. The rest of the EVs are dumped into Attack, allowing Dodrio to dish out as much damage as possible. Although Focus Sash is an excellent item, ensuring Dodrio can get at least one attack off before fainting, Brave Bird will KO Dodrio after it uses it. With a Flying Gem, Dodrio is able to get an incredibly powerful Brave Bird off, sending all Fighting-type Pokemon to oblivion.</p>

    <p>Since Dodrio's Speed is only a decent, it appreciates being partnered with Pokemon who can slow down the opposing team with moves such as Thunder Wave and Icy Wind. Cresselia is an excellent example, disrupting the opponent's team while assisting Dodrio's offensive abilities. Dodrio also partners well with Fake Out users such as Hitmontop, Infernape, and Mienshao, all of which can use Fake Out to flinch faster Pokemon while Dodrio finishes the job with Brave Bird. Since Dodrio is completely walled by Rock- and Steel-type Pokemon, it works great alongside Fighting- and Ground-type Pokemon. Terrakion has access to Rock Slide and Close Combat, taking out Pokemon that otherwise render Dodrio useless. Garchomp has access to Earthquake and Rock Slide and takes advantage of Dodrio's Flying-type to spam Earthquake. Tyranitar is slightly slower than both Terrakion and Garchomp but has more bulk, as well as access to Rock Slide and Low Kick.</p>

    [Other Options]

    <p>Unfortunately, Dodrio's movepool is incredibly limited, and it doesn't have access to many other good moves. Steel Wing can hit Rock-types such as Tyranitar for decent damage, but Rock-types other than Tyranitar and Terrakion aren't so common. Toxic allows Dodrio to shut down walls such as Cresselia before it is KOed but runs into the risk of being ruined by either Lum Berries or Rest. Sunny Day can be used to support a sun team, for obvious reasons. Drill Peck is an alternative option to Brave Bird; however, since Dodrio is already not very strong, Drill Peck will not get as many KOs as Brave Bird. The recoil damage is often insignificant since Dodrio will go down to a hit or two regardless. Focus Sash can be used to ensure that Dodrio gets one attack off before getting KOed, but since Brave Bird is often the main attack, it will just KO Dodrio after being used.</p>

    [Checks and Counters]

    <p>Since Dodrio's defensive stats are rather poor, it is easily OHKOed by strong STAB attacks. Examples include Zapdos's Thunderbolt and Tyranitar's Rock Slide. Electric-, Steel-, and Rock-type Pokemon, such as Zapdos, Thundurus, Metagross, and Tyranitar, all wall Dodrio, leaving it helpless. Dodrio also does not fare well against defensive walls that can soak hits, such as Cresselia. Sableye threatens to burn Dodrio with Will-o-Wisp and can use Trick to steal its Flying Gem.</p>


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    Changes made, thank you! This is now ready for upload.
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