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Dodrio {GP 2/2} DONE KACAW

Discussion in 'Uploaded Analyses' started by PttP, Aug 17, 2012.

  1. PttP

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    [Overview]

    <p>Dodrio is a beautiful, elegant bird. However, despite its regal appearances, Dodrio still faces competition as the premier NU bird from the likes of Braviary and Swellow. Braviary and Swellow (when statused) both sport higher Attack and a better movepool than Dodrio, causing many players to neglect the exquisite bird. Dodrio's movepool is horribly barren, leaving it to be walled by nearly every Rock- or Steel-type in existence. Furthermore, Dodrio is unfortunately weak to Stealth Rock, meaning that when using its main STAB attack, Brave Bird, it will not be lasting too long. However, Dodrio does have its advantages over Braviary and Swellow. Dodrio is blessed with a base 100 Speed, meaning it can outspeed threats Braviary cannot, such as Zangoose and Haunter. Dodrio also has much more immediate power than Swellow, and doesn't wear out as quickly. Luckily for Dodrio, it also possesses Taunt, a move which can cripple both setup Pokemon and walls, something the other birds don't have access to. Dodrio faces much competition from other birds for a slot on your team, but always remember that three heads are better than one.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Choice Band
    move 1: Brave Bird
    move 2: Return
    move 3: Quick Attack / Toxic
    move 4: Pursuit
    item: Choice Band
    ability: Early Bird
    nature: Jolly
    evs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>Although Dodrio does look dashing with a Choice Band attached, that is not the point of this set. This set aims to hit stuff, and hit it hard. Although Choice Band Braviary is stronger than this Dodrio, Dodrio has the advantage of being able to outrun and defeat one-on-one notable threats such as Zangoose and Haunter, which Braviary has no chance of doing. Brave Bird is the crux of this set, as it allows Dodrio to go into kamikaze mode, dealing much damage to anything that doesn't resist it. Return is a powerful secondary STAB and allows Dodrio to hit Electric-types such as Eelektross harder. Quick Attack is fairly strong and a good option to revenge faster threats, but Toxic is equally usable to ensure Dodrio isn't completely stranded when it comes to facing Rock-types. Pursuit is extremely useful against Ghost-types, especially Haunter, as it puts Haunter in a checkmate position. After Stealth Rock, even if Haunter chooses to stay in it is KOed by Pursuit.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>The EV spread is fairly straightforward, maximizing Dodrio's Attack and Speed to make it as strong as possible. An Adamant nature is heavily advised against, as with the lost Speed, Dodrio is unable to outrun threats such as Zangoose and Leafeon. If you truly want extra power at the cost of Speed, it is recommended that you instead use Braviary. Early Bird is the ability of choice as it is the only ability that has any sort of in-battle use, and can occasionally pay off by causing Dodrio to wake up earlier than it normally would.</p>

    <p>Dodrio is weak to Stealth Rock, and as such, appreciates a spinner to clear the battlefield. An offensive Armaldo with Rapid Spin is a good teammate as it can clear the field for Dodrio, while at the same time keeping offensive momentum. Dodrio also appreciates teammates who can set up entry hazards as this makes the foe easier to KO. Pokemon such as Garbodor and Cacturne are useful as both can set up Spikes. Golurk and Golem are also good teammates for Dodrio as both can absorb Electric-type moves aimed at Dodrio while also being able to set up Stealth Rock. Dodrio can in turn KO Pokemon Golurk and Golem struggle with, such as Tangela. Torterra is a good option as it can set up Stealth Rock and beat many of the Rock- and Steel-types that Dodrio struggles with, such as Golem and Bastiodon. Sawk is a very good teammate for Dodrio as Sawk defeats all of Dodrio's aforementioned counters with ease. Zangoose is a great teammate for Dodrio and greatly benefits from its ability to remove opposing Ghost-types, such as Haunter. Finally, Musharna makes an excellent teammate because of its ability to beat Rock-types that plague Dodrio while also being able to clear Dodrio of any status with Heal Bell.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Kacaw
    move 1: Taunt
    move 2: Brave Bird
    move 3: Return
    move 4: Roost
    item: Life Orb / Sharp Beak
    ability: Early Bird
    nature: Jolly
    evs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>Dodrio possesses the always nifty Taunt, which allows it to separate itself from its bird brethren. With the use of Taunt, premier NU walls, such as Alomomola, are put in difficult situations. Taunt prevents Alomomola from using Toxic on Dodrio, forcing it instead to use its weak Waterfall or Scald to do damage. Due to Alomomola also not being able to use Wish, it is quickly downed by the combination of Brave Bird and Roost. Taunt also ensures that Dodrio will not be set-up fodder for Pokemon like Calm Mind Musharna and Shift Gear Klang. Return is a strong, recoil-free STAB that hits Electric-types fairly hard. Although this set does have reliable healing, it should be noted that, with Dodrio's pitiful defenses, it is still very susceptible to even resisted attacks.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>Maximizing Attack and Speed is the best route for Dodrio to take. Regardless of invested bulk, Dodrio will not be taking hits any time soon, so it might as well forgo that option. This may sound like a broken record, but Dodrio really can't afford to run an Adamant nature as it needs all the Speed Jolly provides. Early Bird is again the ability of choice, as it's really the only viable option. Life Orb is useful to boost Dodrio's power, and its recoil can be resolved through the use of Roost; however, Sharp Beak can be used if you dislike the thought of recoil. Toxic is a usable option over Return, however Dodrio probably won't last long enough to see it take effect.</p>

    <p>Unfortunately for Dodrio, this set is entirely beaten by most Rock- or Steel-types, such as Golem and Klang. To beat such threats, Pokemon such as Sawk and Torterra are useful teammates for Dodrio as they both destroy Dodrio's counters with ease. This set appreciates entry hazards even more than the Choice Band set as it will often be forcing many switches. Garbodor is useful for its ability to set up Spikes and lure Ground-type attacks that let Dodrio switch in for free. Zangoose is a Pokemon that appreciates the removal of bulky physical walls such as Alomomola, which this Dodrio does excellently, so Zangoose is a great partner. Musharna is also a good partner for Dodrio as it greatly appreciates the cleric support Musharna provides.</p>

    [Other Options]

    <p>Dodrio's other options are quite possibly the definition of horrible. You honestly are better off just sticking to the recommended sets, but alas, if you really want to use something different, Dodrio does technically have other moves in its arsenal. Dodrio can use Faint Attack or Payback to hit Ghost-types harder, but while Pursuit is minimally weaker, it is far more useful. An Agility + Substitute + Liechi Berry set is usable, but with the metagame being dominated by priority attacks, it is not recommended. While Double-Edge looks like a great option on Dodrio, it is unfortunately illegal in tandem with Brave Bird as Double-Edge is a ADV tutor move, while Brave Bird is a 4th generation move that requires breeding. Work Up can be used to give Dodrio move flexibility while having an Attack boost, but Dodrio is much better suited to directly attacking. Drill Peck is a weaker option over Brave Bird to save Dodrio from recoil, but since it won't be taking any hits, you might as well be hitting everything as hard as you can. Steel Wing is an option to hit Rock-types such as Regirock harder, but despite it showing the words, "It's Super Effective!" it won't remotely harm anything. Finally, you can use Frustration over Return if you truly despise your Dodrio, but it is such a beautiful bird that I know that will not be the case.</p>

    [Checks and Counters]

    <p>If it's a Rock- or Steel-type Pokemon, there's a very good chance that it beats Dodrio. Pokemon such as Bastiodon and Regirock stop give Dodrio a hard time as Dodrio has struggles to get past them. Pokemon that can take repeated hits from Dodrio are also excellent counters. This includes Weezing, who is able to take any attack Dodrio throws at it and burn Dodrio with Will-O-Wisp or KO with Thunderbolt or Ice Beam. Articuno is in the same boat as Weezing, as it can take a Choice Band Brave Bird and respond with Ice Beam, provided it doesn't switch into Stealth Rock. Strong priority also puts a damper on Dodrio's day, as with its weak defenses, Dodrio is incapable of taking any sort of hit. Absol and Skuntank both have strong priorities in Sucker Punch, and can cause Dodrio much misery. Because of Dodrio's low defenses, anything faster with any sort of power to its name can efficiently KO Dodrio. Cinccino and Electrode both dominate Dodrio by using either Tail Slap or Thunderbolt, respectively.</p>
  2. Yonko7

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    For CB set maybe say that it puts Haunter in a checkmate position with pursuit since it OHKOs after SR (93.96 - 111.2) even if it doesn't switch out, but Dodrio can't come in on it, other than the predicted Shadow Ball.

    In OO mention Drill Peck as a weaker STAB, but doesnt have the power that BB has.
    Maybe mention Steel Wing to hit Rock-types? I don't know the viability but its there.

    In CC mention that SR hurts it, a LOT.

    If I think of anything else I say.
    Looks good =]
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    mention golem as a particularly good teammate as it sets up SR and also takes on things like Zebstrika and acts as a good sponge to rock type attacks. Basically it falls in the same boat as Golurk. If I think of anything else I'll be back but for now

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    Ctrl + F Sawk -> No results.

    Sawk is a great teammate for Dodrio because it can defeat its counters with ease. It deserves a mention for sure.

    I think an expansion on teammates would be handy for both sets, since the first Dodrio defeats threats such as Haunter and Grass-types. I'd add Pokemon that appreciate them being removed (Zangoose is a big one) so I'd add Zangoose as a partner.


    For the Taunt set, maybe mention Toxic in AC? I'd use Vigoroth 99% of the time but taunt + toxic + recovery is a cool thing. Expand on teammates too, stuff that like Alomomola removed. Zangoose is an amazing teammate again.

    Also when you write it up be sure to mention specific Pokemon instead of just rock and steel types. Mention them specifically :)

    Otherwise Dodrio is pretty niche: [qc]2/3[/qc]
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    Mention Sub, Agility and Leichi Berry in OO.

    QC APPROVED 3/3
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    dodrio is written :]
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    [Overview]

    <p>Dodrio is a beautiful, elegant bird. However, despite its regal appearances, Dodrio still faces competition as a premier NU bird with the likes of Braviary and Swellow. Braviary and Swellow (when statused) both sport a higher Attack and a better movepool than Dodrio, causing many players to neglect the exquisite bird. Dodrio's movepool is horribly barren, leaving it to be walled by nearly every Rock- or Steel- type in existence. Dodrio is unfortunately weak to Stealth Rock, meaning which means that when paired with its main STABs, Brave Bird and Double-Edge, it will not be lasting too long. However, Dodrio does have its advantages over Braviary and Swellow. Dodrio is blessed with a base 100 Speed, meaning it can outspeed threats Braviary cannot, such as Zangoose and Haunter. Dodrio also has much more immediate power than Swellow, and doesn't wear out as quickly. Luckily for Dodrio, it possesses Taunt, a move that separates itself from other birds. Dodrio faces much competition from other birds for a slot on your team, but always remember, three heads are better than one.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Choice Band
    move 1: Brave Bird
    move 2: Double-Edge / Return
    move 3: Quick Attack / Toxic
    move 4: Pursuit
    item: Choice Band
    ability: Early Bird
    nature: Jolly
    evs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>Although Dodrio does look dashing with a Choice Band attached, although that is not the point of this set. This set aims to hit stuff, and hit it hard. Although Choice Band Braviary is stronger than this Dodrio, Dodrio has the advantage of being able to outrun notable threats such as Zangoose and Haunter. This extra Speed is crucial, as it allows Dodrio to take on these Pokemon one-on-one and come out on top. Braviary, on the other hand, [commas] would have been defeated due to its lower Speed. Brave Bird is the crux of this set, as it allows Dodrio to go into kamikaze mode, dealing much damage to anything that doesn't resist it. Double-Edge does much of the same, but instead allows Dodrio to hit Electric-types such as Eelektross harder. Return can be used over Double-Edge to save Dodrio from recoil, be warned however, that the power drop-off is very noticeable. Quick Attack is fairly strong and a good option to revenge faster threats, but Toxic is equally usable to ensure Dodrio isn't completely stranded when it comes to facing faces Rock-types. Pursuit is extremely useful against Ghost-types, especially Haunter, as it puts Haunter in a checkmate position. After Stealth Rock, even if Haunter chooses to stay in it is KOed by Pursuit.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>The EV spread is fairly straightforward, maximizing Dodrio's Attack and Speed make it as strong as possible. It is highly un not recommended to use an Adamant nature, as with the lost Speed, Dodrio is unable to outrun key threats such as Zangoose and Leafeon. If you truly want extra power at the cost of Speed, it is recommended that you instead use Braviary. Early Bird is the ability of choice as it is the only ability that has any sort of in-battle use, and can occasionally pay off.</p>

    <p>Dodrio is weak to Stealth Rock and as such, appreciates a spinner to clear the battlefield. An offensive spinning Armaldo is a good teammate as it can clear the field for Dodrio, while at the same time is able to keep offensive momentum. Dodrio also appreciates teammates who can set up entry hazards as this makes the foe easier to KO. Pokemon such as Garbodor and Whirlipede are useful as both can set up Spikes. Golurk and Golem are also good teammates for Dodrio as both can absorb Electric-type attacks moves aimed at Dodrio while also being able to setting up Stealth Rock. Dodrio can in turn KO Pokemon Golurk and Golem struggle with, such as Tangela. Torterra is a good option as it can set up Stealth Rock and can beat many of the Rock- and Steel-[no space]types that Dodrio struggles with, such as Golem and Bastiodon. Sawk is a very good teammate for Dodrio as Sawk defeats all of Dodrio's aforementioned counters with ease. Because Dodrio does an excellent job at removing Ghost-types such as Haunter, Zangoose is a fine teammate as Zangoose greatly benefits from the removal of ghosts Ghost-type Pokemon. Finally, Musharna makeis an excellent teammate because of its ability to beat Rock-types that plague Dodrio while also being able to clear Dodrio of any status with Heal Bell.</p>

    [SET]
    name: kKacaw
    move 1: Taunt
    move 2: Brave Bird
    move 3: Return
    move 4: Roost
    item: Life Orb / Sharp Beak
    ability: Early Bird
    nature: Jolly
    evs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>Dodrio possesses the always nifty Taunt, which allows it to separate itself from its bird brethren. With the use of Taunt, premier NU walls, such as Alomomola, are put in a difficult situations. Taunt disables Alomomola from using Toxic on Dodrio, making it instead use attack Dodrio. Due to Alomomola not being able to use Wish, it is quickly downed worn down by the combination of Brave Bird and Roost. Taunt also ensures that Dodrio will not be a set[no space]up fodder for Pokemon like Calm Mind Musharna and Gear Shift Klang. Return is recommended over Double-Edge on this set because this set aims to last slightly longer than the Choice Band set. Although this set does haveing reliable healing, it should be noted that with Dodrio's pitiful defenses, it is still very susceptible to even resisted attacks.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>Maximizing Attack and Speed is the best route for Dodrio to take. Regardless of invested bulk, Dodrio will not be taking any hits any time soon, so might as well forgo that option. This may sound like a broken record, but Dodrio really can't afford to run an Adamant nature as it needs all the Speed Jolly provides. Early Bird is again the ability of choice, as its really because its the only viable option. Life Orb is useful to boost Dodrio's power, and its recoil can be resolved through the use of Roost, however Sharp Beak can be used if you dislike the thought of recoil. Toxic is a useable option over Return, however Dodrio probably won't last long enough to see it take effect.</p>

    <p>Unfortunately for Dodrio, this set is entirely beat by most Rock- or Steel- types, such as Golem and Klang. To beat such threats, teammates such as Sawk and Torterra are useful teammates for Dodrio as they both destroy Dodrio's counters with ease. This set appreciates entry hazards even more than the Choice Band set as this set is good at causing switches. Garbodor is useful for its ability to set up Spikes while Dodrio is able to switch into any Ground attacks aimed at Garbodor. Zangoose is a Pokemon that appreciates the removal of bulky physical walls such as Alomomola, which Dodrio does excellently, so Zangoose is a great partner. Musharna is also a good partner for Dodrio as Dodrio greatly appreciates the cleric support Musharna provides.</p>

    [Other Options]

    <p>Dodrio's other options are quite possibly the definition of horrible. You honestly are better off just sticking to the recommended sets, but alas, if you really want to use something different Dodrio doesn't have many alternatives, but it Dodrio does technically have other moves in its arsenal. Dodrio can use Faint Attack or Payback to hit Ghost-types harder, but Pursuit is minimally weaker, yet much more useful. An Agility Substitute Liechi Berry set is usable, but with the metagame being dominated by priority attacks, it is not recommended. Work Up can be used to give Dodrio move flexibility while having an Attack boost, but Dodrio is much better suited to attacking at will. Drill Peck is a weaker option over Brave Bird to save Dodrio from recoil, but since it won't be taking any hits, you might as well be hitting everything as hard as you can. Steel Wing is an option to hit Rock-types such as Regirock harder, but despite it showing the words, "It's Super Effective!", it won't remotely harm anything. Finally, you can use Frustration over Return if you truly despise your Dodrio, but it is such a beautiful bird that I know that will not be the case.</p>

    [Checks and Counters]

    <p>If it's a Rock- or Steel-[no space]type Pokemon, there's a very good chance that it beats Dodrio. Pokemon such as Bastiodon and Regirock stop Dodrio stone cold as Dodrio has no way of harming them. Pokemon that can take repeated hits from Dodrio are also excellent counters to Dodrio. This includes Weezing, who is able to take any attack Dodrio throws at it and status retalitate with Will-oO-Wisp or KO with Thunderbolt or Ice Beam. Articuno is in the same boat as Weezing, as it can take a Choice Band Brave Bird and respond with Ice Beam, provided it doesn't switch into Stealth Rock. Strong priority also puts a damper on Dodrio's day, as with its weak defenses, Dodrio is uncapable of taking any sort of hit. Absol and Skuntank both have strong priorities in Sucker Punch, and can cause Dodrio much misery. Because of Dodrio's low defenses, anything faster with any sort power to its name can efficiently KO Dodrio. Ciccino and Electrode both dominate Dodrio by using either Tail Slap or Thunderbolt, respectively.</p>

  8. ChaoticaMortis

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    Reserving a spot for an amateur check, although I'm going to hold out on doing it until you've updated with whatever changes you've made based on Yonko's check.
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    i was told not to implement yonko's changes so i still need 2 gp checks :/
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    Double-Edge and Brave Bird are not legal in a single set.

    Double-Edge is a RSE Tutor move, while Brave Bird is a Gen 4 and beyond Egg move.

    Return is 'better' (subjective, but) anyways because you might oftentimes want a non-recoil STAB. Unless Electric types come into play Brave Bird is strictly superior.

    Which is why PS sucks but w/e
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    das my bad i change
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    Hmm, okay. If I were to do an amateur check, would my changes also be advised against? Asking simply because I don't like wasting time.

    EDIT: Also, you'd need 2 regardless of whether or not you implemented Yonko's checks. We're amateur GPers, not members of the actual team.

    DOUBLE EDIT: Screw it, I'll check this. It's going to be in a separate post though.
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    [Overview]

    <p>Dodrio is a beautiful, elegant bird. However, despite its regal appearances, Dodrio still faces competition as premier NU bird with the likes of Braviary and Swellow. Braviary and Swellow (when statused) both sport a higher Attack and a better movepool than Dodrio, causing many players to neglect the exquisite bird. Dodrio's movepool is horribly barren, leaving it to be walled by nearly every Rock- or Steel- type in existence. Furthermore, Dodrio is unfortunately weak to Stealth Rock, meaning that paired with its main STABs, Brave Bird and Double-Edge when using one of its main STAB attacks, Brave Bird or Double-Edge, it will not be lasting too long. However, Dodrio does have its advantages over Braviary and Swellow. Dodrio is blessed with a base 100 Speed, meaning it can outspeed threats Braviary cannot, such as Zangoose and Haunter. Dodrio also has much more immediate power than Swellow, and doesn't wear out as quickly. Luckily for Dodrio, it also possesses Taunt, a move that separates itself from other birds which can cripple both setup Pokemon and walls, something the other birds don't have access to. Dodrio faces much competition from other birds for a slot on your team, but always remember, that three heads are better than one.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Choice Band
    move 1: Brave Bird
    move 2: Return
    move 3: Quick Attack / Toxic
    move 4: Pursuit
    item: Choice Band
    ability: Early Bird
    nature: Jolly
    evs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>Although Dodrio does look dashing with a Choice Band attached, that is not the point of this set. This set aims to hit stuff, and hit it hard. Although Choice Band Braviary is stronger than this Dodrio, Dodrio has 20 extra base speed than the big eagle, giving it the advantage of being able to outrun notable threats such as Zangoose and Haunter. This extra Speed is crucial, as it allows Dodrio to take on these Pokemon one-on-one and come out on top. Braviary on the other hand would have been defeated due to its lower Speed. Brave Bird is the crux of this set, as it allows Dodrio to go into kamikaze mode, dealing much damage to anything that doesn't resist it. Return is a powerful secondary STAB and allows Dodrio to hit Electric-types such as Eelektross harder. Quick Attack is fairly strong and a good option to revenge faster threats, but Toxic is equally usable to ensure Dodrio isn't completely stranded when it comes to facing Rock-types. Pursuit is extremely useful against Ghost-types, especially Haunter, as it puts Haunter in a checkmate position. After Stealth Rock, even if Haunter chooses to stay in it is KOed by Pursuit.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>The EV spread is fairly straightforward, maximizing Dodrio's Attack and Speed make it as strong as possible. It is highly unrecommended to use an Adamant nature An Adamant nature is heavily advised against, as with the lost Speed, Dodrio is unable to outrun threats such as Zangoose and Leafeon. If you truly want extra power at the cost of Speed, it is recommended that you instead use Braviary. Early Bird is the ability of choice as it is the only ability that has any sort of in-battle use, and can occasionally pay off by causing Dodrio to wake up earlier than it normally would. (I kind of feel that the extra detail is needed just to be completely clear, but that's just my opinion)</p>

    <p>Dodrio is weak to Stealth Rock, and as such, (comma placed in an earlier portion of the sentence so it flows better) appreciates a spinner to clear the battlefield. An offensive spinning Armaldo is a good teammate as it can clear the field for Dodrio, while at the same time is able to keep offensive momentum. Dodrio also appreciates teammates who can set up entry hazards as this makes the foe easier to KO. Pokemon such as Garbodor and Whirlipede are useful as both can set up Spikes. Golurk and Golem are also good teammates for Dodrio as both can absorb Electric moves aimed at Dodrio while also being able to set up Stealth Rock. Dodrio can in turn KO Pokemon Golurk and Golem struggle with, such as Tangela. Torterra is a good option as it can set up Stealth Rock and can beat many of the Rock- and Steel- types that Dodrio struggles with, such as Golem and Bastiodon. Sawk is a very good teammate for Dodrio as Sawk defeats all of Dodrio's aforementioned counters with ease. Because Dodrio does an excellent job at removing Ghost-types such as Haunter, Zangoose is a fine teammate as Zangoose greatly benefits from the removal of ghosts Zangoose is a great teammate for Dodrio and greatly benefits from its ability to remove opposing Ghost-types, such as Haunter. Finally, Musharna makes an excellent teammate because of its ability to beat Rock-types that plague Dodrio while also being able to clear Dodrio of any status with Heal Bell. (Maybe mention Wish support. Alomomola sounds like it would be a good teammate and could easily keep Dodrio's HP up.)</p>

    [SET]
    name: kacaw
    move 1: Taunt
    move 2: Brave Bird
    move 3: Return
    move 4: Roost
    item: Life Orb / Sharp Beak
    ability: Early Bird
    nature: Jolly
    evs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>Dodrio possesses the always nifty Taunt, which allows it to separate itself from its bird brethren. With the use of Taunt, premier NU walls, such as Alomomola, are put in difficult situations. Taunt disables Alomomola from using Toxic on Dodrio, making it instead use attack forcing it instead to use its weak Waterfall or Scald to do damage to Dodrio. (Okay, I did some damage calculations, and Dodrio should not stay in on Alomomola, even if it does get the Taunt off. Between Brave Bird and Life Orb recoil as well as Alomomola's Waterfall, Dodrio can't actually beat it. Scrap the Alomomola bit, and replace it with another wall that Dodrio can easily Taunt and defeat, such as Amoonguss, Tangela, etc.) Due to Alomomola not being able to use Wish, it is quickly downed by the combination of Brave Bird and Roost. Taunt also ensures that Dodrio will not be a set up fodder for Pokemon like Calm Mind Musharna and Gear Shift Shift Gear Klang. Return is a strong recoil-free STAB to hit Electric-types. Although this set does having reliable healing, it should be noted that with Dodrio's pitiful defenses, it is still very susceptible to even resisted attacks.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>Maximizing Attack and Speed is the best route for Dodrio to take. Regardless of invested bulk, Dodrio will not be taking any hits any time soon, so might as well forgo that option. This may sound like a broken record, but Dodrio really can't afford to run an Adamant nature as it needs all the Speed Jolly provides. Early Bird is again the ability of choice, as its really the only viable option. Life Orb is useful to boost Dodrio's power, and its recoil can be resolved through the use of Roost, however Sharp Beak can be used if you dislike the thought of recoil. Toxic is a useable usable option over Return, however Dodrio probably won't last long enough to see it take effect.</p>

    <p>Unfortunately for Dodrio, this set is entirely beat by most Rock- or Steel- types, such as Golem and Klang (even if Taunt does put a stop to Golem laying Stealth Rock and Klang using Substitute and Shift Gear). To beat such threats, teammates Pokemon (repetition) such as Sawk and Torterra are useful teammates for Dodrio as they both destroy Dodrio's counters with ease. This set appreciates entry hazards even more than the Choice Band set as this set is good at causing it will often be forcing many switches. Garbodor is useful for its ability to set up Spikes while Dodrio is able to switch into any Ground attacks aimed at Garbodor and lure Ground-type attacks that let Dodrio switch in for free. Zangoose is a Pokemon that appreciates the removal of bulky physical walls such as Alomomola, which Dodrio does excellently, so Zangoose is a great partner. (Again, the mention of Alomomola needs to change as Dodrio can't beat it one on one.) Musharna is also a good partner for Dodrio as Dodrio greatly appreciates the cleric support Musharna provides.</p>

    [Other Options]

    <p>Dodrio's other options are quite possibly the definition of horrible. You honestly are better off just sticking to the recommended sets, but alas, if you really want to use something different, Dodrio does technically have other moves in its arsenal. Dodrio can use Faint Attack or Payback to hit Ghost-types harder, but while Pursuit is minimally weaker, yet much it is far more useful. An Agility + Substitute + Liechi Berry set is usable, but with the metagame being dominated by priority attacks, it is not recommended. While Double-Edge looks like a great option on Dodrio, it is unfortunately illegal in tandem with Brave Bird as Double-Edge is a RSE tutor move, while Brave Bird is a 4th generation move that is beyond breeding capability requires breeding. (saying something is "beyond breeding capability" implies that you cannot breed the move onto the Pokemon) Work Up can be used to give Dodrio move flexibility while having an Attack boost, but Dodrio is much better suited to directly attacking at will. Drill Peck is a weaker option over Brave Bird to save Dodrio from recoil, but since it won't be taking any hits, you might as well be hitting everything as hard as you can. Steel Wing is an option to hit Rock-types such as Regirock harder, but despite it showing the words, "It's Super Effective!", (unnecessary comma) it won't remotely harm anything. Finally, you can use Frustration over Return if you truly despise your Dodrio, but it is such a beautiful bird that I know that will not be the case.</p>

    [Checks and Counters]

    <p>If it's a Rock- or Steel- type Pokemon, there's a very good chance that it beats Dodrio. Pokemon such as Bastiodon and Regirock stop Dodrio stone cold as Dodrio has no way of harming them. Pokemon that can take repeated hits from Dodrio are also excellent counters to Dodrio. This includes Weezing, who is able to take any attack Dodrio throws at it and status burn Dodrio with Will-o-Wisp or KO with Thunderbolt or Ice Beam. Articuno is in the same boat as Weezing, as it can take a Choice Band Brave Bird and respond with Ice Beam, provided it doesn't switch into Stealth Rock. Strong priority also puts a damper on Dodrio's day, as with its weak defenses, (unnecessary comam) Dodrio is uncapable incapable of taking any sort of hit. Absol and Skuntank both have strong priorities in Sucker Punch, and can cause Dodrio much misery. Because of Dodrio's low defenses, anything faster with any sort power to its name can efficiently KO Dodrio. Ciccino Cinccino and Electrode both dominate Dodrio by using either Tail Slap or Thunderbolt, respectively. (Excellent write up, good job. Make sure to fact check everything you state in future analyses. Also watch sentence structure, as it seemed to be a slight issue here. Hope this helped!)</p>
  14. PttP

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    pls someone gp check this dodrio deserves it :[

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    Amateur GP check. Take whatever you think is useful from it. This looks good by the way. Any writing that involves the word nifty is A OK in my book.
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    <p>Dodrio is a beautiful, elegant bird. However, despite its regal appearances, Dodrio still faces competition as premier NU bird with from the likes of Braviary and Swellow. Braviary and Swellow (when statused) both sport a higher Attack and a better movepool than Dodrio, causing many players to neglect the exquisite bird. Dodrio's movepool is horribly barren, leaving it to be walled by nearly every Rock- or Steel- type in existence. Furthermore, Dodrio is unfortunately weak to Stealth Rock, meaning that when using one of its main STAB attacks, Brave Bird or Double-Edge, (this is probably just left over from before Amarillo pointed out the move illegality, but Double-Edge isn't on any of the sets, and is only mentioned in OO as something you can only use if you forgo Brave Bird) it will not be lasting too long. However, Dodrio does have its advantages over Braviary and Swellow. Dodrio is blessed with a base 100 Speed, meaning it can outspeed threats Braviary cannot, such as Zangoose and Haunter. Dodrio also has much more immediate power than Swellow, and doesn't wear out as quickly. Luckily for Dodrio, it also possesses also Taunt, a move which can cripple both setup Pokemon and walls, something the other birds don't have access to. . (remove extra period) Dodrio faces much competition from other birds for a slot on your team, but always remember that three heads are better than one.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Choice Band
    move 1: Brave Bird
    move 2: Return
    move 3: Quick Attack / Toxic
    move 4: Pursuit
    item: Choice Band
    ability: Early Bird
    nature: Jolly
    evs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>Although Dodrio does look dashing with a Choice Band attached, that is not the point of this set. This set aims to hit stuff, and hit it hard. Although Choice Band Braviary is stronger than this Dodrio, Dodrio has the advantage of being able to outrun and defeat one-on-one notable threats such as Zangoose and Haunter, which Braviary has no chance of doing. This extra Speed is crucial, as it allows Dodrio to take on these Pokemon one-on-one and come out on top. Braviary on the other hand would have been defeated due to its lower Speed. (it's your call on whether to keep them or not, but these two sentences seemed to largely be repeating what you said in the one before them) Brave Bird is the crux of this set, as it allows Dodrio to go into kamikaze mode, dealing much damage to anything that doesn't resist it. Return is a powerful secondary STAB and allows Dodrio to hit Electric-types such as Eelektross harder. Quick Attack is fairly strong and a good option to revenge faster threats, but Toxic is equally usable to ensure Dodrio isn't completely stranded when it comes to facing Rock-types. Pursuit is extremely useful against Ghost-types, especially Haunter, which is as it puts Haunter in a checkmate position. After Stealth Rock, even if Haunter chooses to stay in it is KOed by Pursuit.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>The EV spread is fairly straightforward, maximizing Dodrio's Attack and Speed to make it as strong as possible. An Adamant nature is heavily advised against, as with the lost Speed, Dodrio is unable to outrun threats such as Zangoose and Leafeon. If you truly want extra power at the cost of Speed, it is recommended that you instead use Braviary. Early Bird is the ability of choice as it is the only ability that has any sort of in-battle use, and can occasionally pay off by causing Dodrio to wake up earlier than it normally would..</p>

    <p>Dodrio is weak to Stealth Rock, and as such, appreciates a spinner to clear the battlefield. An offensive spinning Armaldo is a good teammate as it can clear the field for Dodrio, while at the same time is able to keeping offensive momentum. Dodrio also appreciates teammates who can set up entry hazards as this makes the foe easier to KO. Pokemon such as Garbodor and Whirlipede (I'm not sure what Smogon's policy is for mentioning partners in analyses or not due to usage, but Whirlipede was 164th in NU last month, so something like Cacturne might be better) are useful as both can set up Spikes. Golurk and Golem are also good teammates for Dodrio as both can absorb Electric moves aimed at Dodrio while also being able to set up Stealth Rock. Dodrio can in turn KO Pokemon Golurk and Golem struggle with, such as Tangela. Torterra is a good option as it can set up Stealth Rock and can beat many of the Rock- and Steel- types (remove space between Steel- and types) that Dodrio struggles with, such as Golem and Bastiodon. Sawk is a very good teammate for Dodrio as Sawk defeats all of Dodrio's aforementioned counters with ease. Zangoose is a great teammate for Dodrio and greatly benefits from its ability to remove opposing Ghost-types, such as Haunter. Finally, Musharna makes an excellent teammate because of its ability to beat Rock-types that plague Dodrio while also being able to clear Dodrio of any status with Heal Bell.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Kacaw
    move 1: Taunt
    move 2: Brave Bird
    move 3: Return
    move 4: Roost
    item: Life Orb / Sharp Beak
    ability: Early Bird
    nature: Jolly
    evs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>Dodrio possesses the always nifty Taunt, which allows it to separate itself from its bird brethren. With the use of Taunt, premier NU walls, such as Alomomola, are put in difficult situations. Taunt disables prevents Alomomola from using Toxic on Dodrio, forcing it instead to use its weak Waterfall or Scald to do damage to. Due to Alomomola also not being able to use Wish, it is quickly downed by the combination of Brave Bird and Roost. Taunt also ensures that Dodrio will not be a set up fodder for Pokemon like Calm Mind Musharna and Shift Gear Klang. Return is a strong recoil-free STAB to hit Electric-types. Although this set does having have reliable healing, it should be noted that (add comma) with Dodrio's pitiful defenses, it is still very susceptible to even resisted attacks.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>Maximizing Attack and Speed is the best route for Dodrio to take. Regardless of invested bulk, Dodrio will not be taking any hits any time soon, so it might as well forgo that option. This may sound like a broken record, but Dodrio really can't afford to run an Adamant nature as it needs all the Speed Jolly provides. Early Bird is again the ability of choice, as its it's really the only viable option. Life Orb is useful to boost Dodrio's power, and its recoil can be resolved through the use of Roost, (change comma to semicolon) however (add comma) Sharp Beak can be used if you dislike the thought of recoil. Toxic is a usable option over Return, (change comma to semicolon) however (add comma) Dodrio probably won't last long enough to see it take effect.</p>

    <p>Unfortunately for Dodrio, this set is entirely beat by most Rock- or Steel- types, such as Golem and Klang. To beat such threats, Pokemon such as Sawk and Torterra are useful teammates for Dodrio as they both destroy Dodrio's counters with ease. This set appreciates entry hazards even more than the Choice Band set as it will often be forcing many switches. Garbodor is useful for its ability to set up Spikes and lure Ground-type attacks that let Dodrio switch in for free. Zangoose is a Pokemon that appreciates the removal of bulky physical walls such as Alomomola, which Dodrio does excellently, so Zangoose is a great partner. Musharna is also a good partner for Dodrio as Dodrio greatly appreciates the cleric support Musharna provides.</p>

    [Other Options]

    <p>Dodrio's other options are quite possibly the definition of horrible. You honestly are better off just sticking to the recommended sets, but alas, if you really want to use something different, Dodrio does technically have other moves in its arsenal. Dodrio can use Faint Attack or Payback to hit Ghost-types harder, but while Pursuit is minimally weaker, it is far more useful. An Agility + Substitute + Liechi Berry set is usable, but with the metagame being dominated by priority attacks, it is not recommended. While Double-Edge looks like a great option on Dodrio, it is unfortunately illegal in tandem with Brave Bird as Double-Edge is a RSE ADV (third gen is special and apparently too cool for the standard style abbreviation) tutor move, while Brave Bird is a 4th generation move that requires breeding. Work Up can be used to give Dodrio move flexibility while having an Attack boost, but Dodrio is much better suited to directly attacking. Drill Peck is a weaker option over Brave Bird to save Dodrio from recoil, but since it won't be taking any hits, you might as well be hitting everything as hard as you can. Steel Wing is an option to hit Rock-types such as Regirock harder, but despite it showing the words, "It's Super Effective!" it won't remotely harm anything. Finally, you can use Frustration over Return if you truly despise your Dodrio, but it is such a beautiful bird that I know that will not be the case.</p>

    [Checks and Counters]

    <p>If it's a Rock- or Steel- type Pokemon, there's a very good chance that it beats Dodrio. Pokemon such as Bastiodon and Regirock stop Dodrio stone cold as Dodrio has no way of harming them. Pokemon that can take repeated hits from Dodrio are also excellent counters to Dodrio. This includes Weezing, who is able to take any attack Dodrio throws at it and burn Dodrio with Will-o-Wisp or KO with Thunderbolt or Ice Beam. Articuno is in the same boat as Weezing, as it can take a Choice Band Brave Bird and respond with Ice Beam, provided it doesn't switch into Stealth Rock. Strong priority also puts a damper on Dodrio's day, as with its weak defenses, Dodrio is incapable of taking any sort of hit. Absol and Skuntank both have strong priorities in Sucker Punch, and can cause Dodrio much misery. Because of Dodrio's low defenses, anything faster with any sort of power to its name can efficiently KO Dodrio. Cinccino and Electrode both dominate Dodrio by using either Tail Slap or Thunderbolt, respectively.</p>
  16. Oglemi

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  17. PttP

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    thank you for the check melvni, implemented your changes!

    edit: thanks for the stamp oglemi

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    I know you need 1 more stamp but an AM check is the best I can do ;w;

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    <p>Dodrio is a beautiful, elegant bird. However, despite its regal appearances, Dodrio still faces competition as premier NU bird from the likes of Braviary and Swellow.(no period) Braviary and Swellow, birds that both sport a higher Attack (when statused) and a better movepool than Dodrio, causing many players to neglect the exquisite bird. Dodrio's movepool is horribly barren, leaving it to be walled by nearly every Rock- or Steel- type in existence. Furthermore, Dodrio is unfortunately weak to Stealth Rock;(semicolon) meaning that when using its main STAB attack, Brave Bird, it will not be lasting too long. However, Dodrio does have its advantages over Braviary and Swellow,(comma) mainly Dodrio is blessed with a its base 100 Speed, meaning it can outspeed threats Braviary cannot;(semicolon) such as Zangoose and Haunter. Dodrio also has much more immediate power than Swellow, and doesn't wear out as quickly. Luckily for Dodrio, it also possesses Taunt, a move which can cripple both setup Pokemon and walls-(hyphen) something the other birds don't have access to. Dodrio faces much competition from other birds for a slot on your team, but always remember that three heads are better than one.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Choice Band
    move 1: Brave Bird
    move 2: Return
    move 3: Quick Attack / Toxic
    move 4: Pursuit
    item: Choice Band
    ability: Early Bird
    nature: Jolly
    evs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>Although Dodrio does look dashing with a Choice Band attached, that is not the point of this set. This set aims to hit stuff, and hit it hard. Although Choice Band Braviary is stronger than this Dodrio, Dodrio has the advantage of being able to outrun and defeat notable threats such as Zangoose and Haunter one-on-one, which Braviary has no chance of doing. Brave Bird is the crux of this set, allowing Dodrio to go into kamikaze mode, dealing much damage to anything that doesn't resist it. Return is a powerful secondary STAB that lets Dodrio to hit Electric-types such as Eelektross harder. Quick Attack is fairly strong and a good option to revenge faster threats, but Toxic is equally usable to ensure Dodrio isn't completely stranded when it comes to facing Rock-types. Pursuit is extremely useful against Ghost-types-(hyphen) especially Haunter, as it puts it in a checkmate position. After Stealth Rock, even if Haunter chooses to stay in,(comma) it is KOed by Pursuit.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>The EV spread is fairly straightforward, maximizing Dodrio's Attack and Speed to make it as strong and fast as possible. An Adamant nature is heavily advised against because Dodrio is unable to outrun threats such as Zangoose and Leafeon without a speed boosting nature. If you truly want extra power at the cost of Speed, it is recommended that you use Braviary instead. Early Bird is the ability of choice as it is the only ability that has any sort of in-battle use;(semicolon) and can occasionally pay off by causing Dodrio to wake up earlier than it normally would..</p>

    <p>Dodrio is weak to Stealth Rock, and as such, appreciates a spinner to clear the battlefield. An offensive spinning Armaldo is a good teammate because it can clear the field for Dodrio,(no comma) while at the same time keeping offensive momentum. Dodrio also appreciates teammates who can set up entry hazards, as this makes the foe easier to KO. Pokemon such as Garbodor and Cacturne are useful thanks to their access to Spikes. Golurk and Golem are also good teammates for Dodrio, as both can absorb Electric moves aimed at Dodrio while also being able to setting up Stealth Rock. Dodrio can in turn KO Pokemon Golurk and Golem struggle with, such as Tangela. Torterra is a also a good option as it can both set up Stealth Rock and can beat many of the Rock- and Steel-types that Dodrio struggles with, such as Golem and Bastiodon. Sawk is a very good teammate for Dodrio as well, because it defeats all of Dodrio's aforementioned counters with ease. Zangoose is a great partner(repetition) for Dodrio and greatly benefits from its ability to remove opposing Ghost-types, such as Haunter. Finally, Musharna makes an excellent teammate because of its ability to beat Rock-types that plague Dodrio while also being able to clear Dodrio of any status with Heal Bell.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Kacaw
    move 1: Taunt
    move 2: Brave Bird
    move 3: Return
    move 4: Roost
    item: Life Orb / Sharp Beak
    ability: Early Bird
    nature: Jolly
    evs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>Dodrio possesses the always nifty Taunt, which allows it to separate itself from its feathery(Personal preference, sounds classier c:) brethren. With the use of Taunt, premier NU walls,(no comma) such as Alomomola,(no comma)are put in difficult situations. Taunt prevents Alomomola from using Toxic on Dodrio, forcing it to use its weak Waterfall or Scald to do damage instead. Due to Alomomola also not being able to use Wish, it is quickly downed by the combination of Brave Bird and Roost. Taunt also ensures that Dodrio will not be set up fodder for Pokemon like Calm Mind Musharna and Shift Gear Klang. Return is a strong recoil-free STAB to hit Electric-types. Although this set does have reliable healing, it should be noted that, with Dodrio's pitiful defenses, it is still very susceptible to even resisted attacks.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>Maximizing Attack and Speed is the best route for Dodrio to take. Regardless of invested bulk, Dodrio will not be taking many hits any time soon, so it might as well forgo that option. This may sound like a broken record, but Dodrio really can't afford to run an Adamant nature as it needs all the Speed Jolly provides. Early Bird is again the ability of choice due to it beingthe only viable option. Life Orb is useful to boost Dodrio's power, and its recoil can be resolved through the use of Roost; however, Sharp Beak can be used if you dislike the thought of recoil. Toxic is a usable option over Return, but Dodrio probably won't last long enough to see it take effect.</p>

    <p>Unfortunately for Dodrio, this set is entirely beat by most Rock- or Steel- types, such as Golem and Klang. To beat such threats, Pokemon such as Sawk and Torterra are good teammates for Dodrio as they both destroy its counters with ease. This set appreciates entry hazards even more than the Choice Band set,(comma) as it will often force many switches. Garbodor is useful for its ability to set up Spikes and lure Ground-type attacks that let Dodrio switch in for free. Zangoose is a Pokemon that appreciates the removal of bulky physical walls such as Alomomola, which Dodrio does excellently, so it is a great partner. Musharna is also a good teammate for Dodrio as it greatly appreciates the cleric support Musharna provides.</p>

    [Other Options]

    <p>Dodrio's other options are quite possibly the definition of horrible. You honestly are better off just sticking to the recommended sets, but alas, if you really want to use something different, Dodrio does technically have other moves in its arsenal. Dodrio can use Faint Attack or Payback to hit Ghost-types harder, and while Pursuit is minimally weaker, it's also far more useful. An Agility + Substitute + Liechi Berry set is usable, but with the metagame being dominated by priority attacks, it is not recommended. While Double-Edge looks like a great option on Dodrio, it is unfortunately illegal in tandem with Brave Bird;(semicolon) as Double-Edge is an ADV tutor move, while Brave Bird is a 4th generation move that requires breeding. Work Up can be used to give Dodrio move flexibility while having an Attack boost, but Dodrio is much better suited to directly attacking. Drill Peck is a weaker option over Brave Bird to save Dodrio from recoil, but since it won't be taking any hits, you might as well be hitting everything as hard as you can. Steel Wing is an option to hit Rock-types such as Regirock harder, but despite it showing the words, "It's Super Effective!" it won't remotely harm anything. Finally, you can use Frustration over Return if you truly despise your Dodrio, but it is such a beautiful bird that I know that will not be the case.</p>

    [Checks and Counters]

    <p>If it's a Rock- or Steel- type Pokemon, there's a very good chance that it beats Dodrio. Pokemon such as Bastiodon and Regirock stop Dodrio stone cold because Dodrio has no way of harming them. Pokemon that can take repeated hits from Dodrio are also excellent counters. This includes Weezing, who is able to take any attack Dodrio throws at it and burn it with Will-o-Wisp or KO with Thunderbolt or Ice Beam. Articuno is in the same boat as Weezing, as it can take a Choice Band Brave Bird and respond with Ice Beam-(hyphen) provided it doesn't switch into Stealth Rock. Strong priority also puts a damper on Dodrio's day, because with its weak defenses, Dodrio is incapable of taking any sort of hit. Absol and Skuntank both have strong priorities in Sucker Punch which can cause Dodrio much misery. Because of Dodrio's low defenses, anything faster with any sort of power to its name can efficiently KO Dodrio. Cinccino and Electrode both dominate Dodrio by using either Tail Slap or Thunderbolt, respectively.</p>


    edit: dw for that. I'll work on my semicolons :P
  19. RitterCat

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    <p>Dodrio is a beautiful, elegant bird. However, despite its regal appearances, Dodrio still faces competition as the premier NU bird from the likes of Braviary and Swellow. Braviary and Swellow (when statused) both sport a higher Attack and a better movepool than Dodrio, causing many players to neglect the exquisite bird. Dodrio's movepool is horribly barren, leaving it to be walled by nearly every Rock- or Steel- type in existence. Furthermore, Dodrio is unfortunately weak to Stealth Rock, meaning that when using its main STAB attack, Brave Bird, it will not be lasting too long. However, Dodrio does have its advantages over Braviary and Swellow. Dodrio is blessed with a base 100 Speed, meaning it can outspeed threats Braviary cannot, such as Zangoose and Haunter. Dodrio also has much more immediate power than Swellow, and doesn't wear out as quickly. Luckily for Dodrio, it also possesses Taunt, a move which can cripple both setup Pokemon and walls, something the other birds don't have access to. Dodrio faces much competition from other birds for a slot on your team, but always remember that three heads are better than one.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Choice Band
    move 1: Brave Bird
    move 2: Return
    move 3: Quick Attack / Toxic
    move 4: Pursuit
    item: Choice Band
    ability: Early Bird
    nature: Jolly
    evs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>Although Dodrio does look dashing with a Choice Band attached, that is not the point of this set. This set aims to hit stuff, and hit it hard. Although Choice Band Braviary is stronger than this Dodrio, Dodrio has the advantage of being able to outrun and defeat one-on-one notable threats such as Zangoose and Haunter, which Braviary has no chance of doing. Brave Bird is the crux of this set, as it allows Dodrio to go into kamikaze mode, dealing much damage to anything that doesn't resist it. Return is a powerful secondary STAB and allows Dodrio to hit Electric-types such as Eelektross harder. Quick Attack is fairly strong and a good option to revenge faster threats, but Toxic is equally usable to ensure Dodrio isn't completely stranded when it comes to facing Rock- and Steel-types. Pursuit is extremely useful against Ghost-types, especially Haunter, as it puts Haunter in a checkmate position. After Stealth Rock, even if Haunter chooses to stay in it is KOed by Pursuit.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>The EV spread is fairly straightforward, maximizing Dodrio's Attack and Speed to make it as strong as possible. An Adamant nature is heavily advised against, as with the lost Speed, Dodrio is unable to outrun threats such as Zangoose and Leafeon. If you truly want extra power at the cost of Speed, it is recommended that you instead use Braviary. Early Bird is the ability of choice as it is the only ability that has any sort of in-battle use, and can occasionally pay off by causing Dodrio to wake up earlier than it normally would..</p>

    <p>Dodrio is weak to Stealth Rock, and as such, appreciates a spinner to clear the battlefield. An offensive spinning ArmaldoArmaldo with Rapid Spin is a good teammate as it can clear the field for Dodrio, while at the same time keeping offensive momentum. Dodrio also appreciates teammates who can set up entry hazards as this makes the foe easier to KO. Pokemon such as Garbodor and Cacturne are useful as both can set up Spikes. Golurk and Golem are also good teammates for Dodrio as both can absorb Electric-type moves aimed at Dodrio while also being able to set up Stealth Rock. Dodrio can in turn KO Pokemon Golurk and Golem struggle with, such as Tangela. Torterra is a good option as it can set up Stealth Rock and can beat many of the Rock- and Steel-types that Dodrio struggles with, such as Golem and Bastiodon. Sawk is a very good teammate for Dodrio as Sawk defeats all of Dodrio's aforementioned counters with ease. Zangoose is a great teammate for Dodrio and greatly benefits from its ability to remove opposing Ghost-types, such as Haunter. Finally, Musharna makes an excellent teammate because of its ability to beat Rock-types that plague Dodrio while also being able to clear Dodrio of any status with Heal Bell.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Kacaw
    move 1: Taunt
    move 2: Brave Bird
    move 3: Return
    move 4: Roost
    item: Life Orb / Sharp Beak
    ability: Early Bird
    nature: Jolly
    evs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>Dodrio possesses the always nifty Taunt, which allows it to separate itself from its bird brethren. With the use of Taunt, premier NU walls, such as Alomomola, are put in difficult situations. Taunt prevents Alomomola from using Toxic on Dodrio, forcing it instead to use its weak Waterfall or Scald to do damage. Due to Alomomola also not being able to use Wish, it is quickly downed by the combination of Brave Bird and Roost. Taunt also ensures that Dodrio will not be set up fodder for Pokemon like Calm Mind Musharna and Shift Gear Klang. Return is a strong, recoil-free STAB tohat hits Electric-types. Although this set does have reliable healing, it should be noted that, with Dodrio's pitiful defenses, it is still very susceptible to even resisted attacks.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>Maximizing Attack and Speed is the best route for Dodrio to take. Regardless of invested bulk, Dodrio will not be taking any hits any time soon, so it might as well forgo that option. This may sound like a broken record, but Dodrio really can't afford to run an Adamant nature as it needs all the Speed Jolly provides. Early Bird is again the ability of choice, as it's really the only viable option. Life Orb is useful to boost Dodrio's power, and its recoil can be resolved through the use of Roost; however, Sharp Beak can be used if you dislike the thought of recoil. Toxic is a usable option over Return, however Dodrio probably won't last long enough to see it take effect.</p>

    <p>Unfortunately for Dodrio, this set is entirely beaten by most Rock- or Steel- types, such as Golem and Klang. To beat such threats, Pokemon such as Sawk and Torterra are useful teammates for Dodrio as they both destroy Dodrio's counters with ease. This set appreciates entry hazards even more than the Choice Band set as it will often be forcing many switches. Garbodor is useful for its ability to set up Spikes and lure Ground-type attacks that let Dodrio switch in for free. Zangoose is a Pokemon that appreciates the removal of bulky physical walls such as Alomomola, which this Dodrio does excellently, so Zangoose is a great partner. Musharna is also a good partner for Dodrio as Dodrioit greatly appreciates the cleric support Musharna provides.</p>

    [Other Options]

    <p>Dodrio's other options are quite possibly the definition of horrible. You honestly are better off just sticking to the recommended sets, but alas, if you really want to use something different, Dodrio does technically have other moves in its arsenal. Dodrio can use Faint Attack or Payback to hit Ghost-types harder, but while Pursuit is minimally weaker, it is far more useful. An Agility + Substitute + Liechi Berry set is usable, but with the metagame being dominated by priority attacks, it is not recommended. While Double-Edge looks like a great option on Dodrio, it is unfortunately illegal in tandem with Brave Bird as Double-Edge is a ADV tutor move, while Brave Bird is a 4th generation move that requires breeding. Work Up can be used to give Dodrio move flexibility while having an Attack boost, but Dodrio is much better suited to directly attacking. Drill Peck is a weaker option over Brave Bird to save Dodrio from recoil, but since it won't be taking any hits, you might as well be hitting everything as hard as you can. Steel Wing is an option to hit Rock-types such as Regirock harder, but despite it showing the words, "It's Super Effective!" it won't remotely harm anything. Finally, you can use Frustration over Return if you truly despise your Dodrio, but it is such a beautiful bird that I know that will not be the case.</p>

    [Checks and Counters]

    <p>If it's a Rock- or Steel- type Pokemon, there's a very good chance that it beats Dodrio. Pokemon such as Bastiodon and Regirock stop Dodrio stone cold as Dodrio has no way of harming them. Pokemon that can take repeated hits from Dodrio are also excellent counters. This includes Weezing, who is able to take any attack Dodrio throws at it and burn Dodrio with Will-o-Wisp or KO with Thunderbolt or Ice Beam. Articuno is in the same boat as Weezing, as it can take a Choice Band Brave Bird and respond with Ice Beam, provided it doesn't switch into Stealth Rock. Strong priority also puts a damper on Dodrio's day, as with its weak defenses, Dodrio is incapable of taking any sort of hit. Absol and Skuntank both have strong priorities in Sucker Punch, and can cause Dodrio much misery. Because of Dodrio's low defenses, anything faster with any sort of power to its name can efficiently KO Dodrio. Cinccino and Electrode both dominate Dodrio by using either Tail Slap or Thunderbolt, respectively.</p>

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    [Overview]

    <p>Dodrio is a beautiful, elegant bird. However, despite its regal appearances, Dodrio still faces competition as the premier NU bird from the likes of Braviary and Swellow. Braviary and Swellow (when statused) both sport higher Attack and a better movepool than Dodrio, causing many players to neglect the exquisite bird. Dodrio's movepool is horribly barren, leaving it to be walled by nearly every Rock- or Steel-type in existence. Furthermore, Dodrio is unfortunately weak to Stealth Rock, meaning that when using its main STAB attack, Brave Bird, it will not be lasting too long. However, Dodrio does have its advantages over Braviary and Swellow. Dodrio is blessed with a base 100 Speed, meaning it can outspeed threats Braviary cannot, such as Zangoose and Haunter. Dodrio also has much more immediate power than Swellow, and doesn't wear out as quickly. Luckily for Dodrio, it also possesses Taunt, a move which can cripple both setup Pokemon and walls, something the other birds don't have access to. Dodrio faces much competition from other birds for a slot on your team, but always remember that three heads are better than one.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Choice Band
    move 1: Brave Bird
    move 2: Return
    move 3: Quick Attack / Toxic
    move 4: Pursuit
    item: Choice Band
    ability: Early Bird
    nature: Jolly
    evs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>Although Dodrio does look dashing with a Choice Band attached, that is not the point of this set. This set aims to hit stuff, and hit it hard. Although Choice Band Braviary is stronger than this Dodrio, Dodrio has the advantage of being able to outrun and defeat one-on-one notable threats such as Zangoose and Haunter, which Braviary has no chance of doing. Brave Bird is the crux of this set, as it allows Dodrio to go into kamikaze mode, dealing much damage to anything that doesn't resist it. Return is a powerful secondary STAB and allows Dodrio to hit Electric-types such as Eelektross harder. Quick Attack is fairly strong and a good option to revenge faster threats, but Toxic is equally usable to ensure Dodrio isn't completely stranded when it comes to facing Rock- and Steel-types. Pursuit is extremely useful against Ghost-types, especially Haunter, as it puts Haunter in a checkmate position. After Stealth Rock, even if Haunter chooses to stay in it is KOed by Pursuit.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>The EV spread is fairly straightforward, maximizing Dodrio's Attack and Speed to make it as strong as possible. An Adamant nature is heavily advised against, as with the lost Speed, Dodrio is unable to outrun threats such as Zangoose and Leafeon. If you truly want extra power at the cost of Speed, it is recommended that you instead use Braviary. Early Bird is the ability of choice as it is the only ability that has any sort of in-battle use, and can occasionally pay off by causing Dodrio to wake up earlier than it normally would..</p>

    <p>Dodrio is weak to Stealth Rock, and as such, appreciates a spinner to clear the battlefield. An offensive Armaldo with Rapid Spin is a good teammate as it can clear the field for Dodrio, while at the same time keeping offensive momentum. Dodrio also appreciates teammates who can set up entry hazards as this makes the foe easier to KO. Pokemon such as Garbodor and Cacturne are useful as both can set up Spikes. Golurk and Golem are also good teammates for Dodrio as both can absorb Electric-type moves aimed at Dodrio while also being able to set up Stealth Rock. Dodrio can in turn KO Pokemon Golurk and Golem struggle with, such as Tangela. Torterra is a good option as it can set up Stealth Rock and beat many of the Rock- and Steel-types that Dodrio struggles with, such as Golem and Bastiodon. Sawk is a very good teammate for Dodrio as Sawk defeats all of Dodrio's aforementioned counters with ease. Zangoose is a great teammate for Dodrio and greatly benefits from its ability to remove opposing Ghost-types, such as Haunter. Finally, Musharna makes an excellent teammate because of its ability to beat Rock-types that plague Dodrio while also being able to clear Dodrio of any status with Heal Bell.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Kacaw
    move 1: Taunt
    move 2: Brave Bird
    move 3: Return
    move 4: Roost
    item: Life Orb / Sharp Beak
    ability: Early Bird
    nature: Jolly
    evs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>Dodrio possesses the always nifty Taunt, which allows it to separate itself from its bird brethren. With the use of Taunt, premier NU walls, such as Alomomola, are put in difficult situations. Taunt prevents Alomomola from using Toxic on Dodrio, forcing it instead to use its weak Waterfall or Scald to do damage. Due to Alomomola also not being able to use Wish, it is quickly downed by the combination of Brave Bird and Roost. Taunt also ensures that Dodrio will not be set up fodder for Pokemon like Calm Mind Musharna and Shift Gear Klang. Return is a strong, recoil-free STAB that hits Electric-types. Although this set does have reliable healing, it should be noted that, with Dodrio's pitiful defenses, it is still very susceptible to even resisted attacks.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>Maximizing Attack and Speed is the best route for Dodrio to take. Regardless of invested bulk, Dodrio will not be taking hits any time soon, so it might as well forgo that option. This may sound like a broken record, but Dodrio really can't afford to run an Adamant nature as it needs all the Speed Jolly provides. Early Bird is again the ability of choice, as it's really the only viable option. Life Orb is useful to boost Dodrio's power, and its recoil can be resolved through the use of Roost; however, Sharp Beak can be used if you dislike the thought of recoil. Toxic is a usable option over Return, however Dodrio probably won't last long enough to see it take effect.</p>

    <p>Unfortunately for Dodrio, this set is entirely beaten by most Rock- or Steel-types, such as Golem and Klang. To beat such threats, Pokemon such as Sawk and Torterra are useful teammates for Dodrio as they both destroy Dodrio's counters with ease. This set appreciates entry hazards even more than the Choice Band set as it will often be forcing many switches. Garbodor is useful for its ability to set up Spikes and lure Ground-type attacks that let Dodrio switch in for free. Zangoose is a Pokemon that appreciates the removal of bulky physical walls such as Alomomola, which this Dodrio does excellently, so Zangoose is a great partner. Musharna is also a good partner for Dodrio as it greatly appreciates the cleric support Musharna provides.</p>

    [Other Options]

    <p>Dodrio's other options are quite possibly the definition of horrible. You honestly are better off just sticking to the recommended sets, but alas, if you really want to use something different, Dodrio does technically have other moves in its arsenal. Dodrio can use Faint Attack or Payback to hit Ghost-types harder, but while Pursuit is minimally weaker, it is far more useful. An Agility + Substitute + Liechi Berry set is usable, but with the metagame being dominated by priority attacks, it is not recommended. While Double-Edge looks like a great option on Dodrio, it is unfortunately illegal in tandem with Brave Bird as Double-Edge is a ADV tutor move, while Brave Bird is a 4th generation move that requires breeding. Work Up can be used to give Dodrio move flexibility while having an Attack boost, but Dodrio is much better suited to directly attacking. Drill Peck is a weaker option over Brave Bird to save Dodrio from recoil, but since it won't be taking any hits, you might as well be hitting everything as hard as you can. Steel Wing is an option to hit Rock-types such as Regirock harder, but despite it showing the words, "It's Super Effective!" it won't remotely harm anything. Finally, you can use Frustration over Return if you truly despise your Dodrio, but it is such a beautiful bird that I know that will not be the case.</p>

    [Checks and Counters]

    <p>If it's a Rock- or Steel- type Pokemon, there's a very good chance that it beats Dodrio. Pokemon such as Bastiodon and Regirock stop Dodrio stone cold as Dodrio has no way of harming them. Pokemon that can take repeated hits from Dodrio are also excellent counters. This includes Weezing, who is able to take any attack Dodrio throws at it and burn Dodrio with Will-o-Wisp or KO with Thunderbolt or Ice Beam. Articuno is in the same boat as Weezing, as it can take a Choice Band Brave Bird and respond with Ice Beam, provided it doesn't switch into Stealth Rock. Strong priority also puts a damper on Dodrio's day, as with its weak defenses, Dodrio is incapable of taking any sort of hit. Absol and Skuntank both have strong priorities in Sucker Punch, and can cause Dodrio much misery. Because of Dodrio's low defenses, anything faster with any sort of power to its name can efficiently KO Dodrio. Cinccino and Electrode both dominate Dodrio by using either Tail Slap or Thunderbolt, respectively.</p>

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    Well written, good job! n_n
    Sorry for passing over your check ClubbinSphealCub but there were quite a few incorrect changes that I saw (particularly in semicolon usage)
  20. PttP

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    thank you for the check rittercat, dodrio now has the analysis it deserves :]

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  21. zdrup15

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    [Overview]

    <p>Dodrio is a beautiful, elegant bird. However, despite its regal appearances, Dodrio still faces competition as the premier NU bird from the likes of Braviary and Swellow. Braviary and Swellow (when statused) both sport higher Attack and a better movepool than Dodrio, causing many players to neglect the exquisite bird. Dodrio's movepool is horribly barren, leaving it to be walled by nearly every Rock- or Steel-type in existence. Furthermore, Dodrio is unfortunately weak to Stealth Rock, meaning that when using its main STAB attack, Brave Bird, it will not be lasting too long. However, Dodrio does have its advantages over Braviary and Swellow. Dodrio is blessed with a base 100 Speed, meaning it can outspeed threats Braviary cannot, such as Zangoose and Haunter. Dodrio also has much more immediate power than Swellow, and doesn't wear out as quickly. Luckily for Dodrio, it also possesses Taunt, a move which can cripple both setup Pokemon and walls, something the other birds don't have access to. Dodrio faces much competition from other birds for a slot on your team, but always remember that three heads are better than one.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Choice Band
    move 1: Brave Bird
    move 2: Return
    move 3: Quick Attack / Toxic
    move 4: Pursuit
    item: Choice Band
    ability: Early Bird
    nature: Jolly
    evs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>Although Dodrio does look dashing with a Choice Band attached, that is not the point of this set. This set aims to hit stuff, and hit it hard. Although Choice Band Braviary is stronger than this Dodrio, Dodrio has the advantage of being able to outrun and defeat one-on-one notable threats such as Zangoose and Haunter, which Braviary has no chance of doing. Brave Bird is the crux of this set, as it allows Dodrio to go into kamikaze mode, dealing much damage to anything that doesn't resist it. Return is a powerful secondary STAB and allows Dodrio to hit Electric-types such as Eelektross harder. Quick Attack is fairly strong and a good option to revenge faster threats, but Toxic is equally usable to ensure Dodrio isn't completely stranded when it comes to facing Rock- and Steel-types Rock-types (Steel-types can't be poisoned so you're still not touching them...). Pursuit is extremely useful against Ghost-types, especially Haunter, as it puts Haunter in a checkmate position. After Stealth Rock, even if Haunter chooses to stay in it is KOed by Pursuit.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>The EV spread is fairly straightforward, maximizing Dodrio's Attack and Speed to make it as strong as possible. An Adamant nature is heavily advised against, as with the lost Speed, Dodrio is unable to outrun threats such as Zangoose and Leafeon. If you truly want extra power at the cost of Speed, it is recommended that you instead use Braviary. Early Bird is the ability of choice as it is the only ability that has any sort of in-battle use, and can occasionally pay off by causing Dodrio to wake up earlier than it normally would.. (only one period)</p>

    <p>Dodrio is weak to Stealth Rock, and as such, appreciates a spinner to clear the battlefield. An offensive Armaldo with Rapid Spin is a good teammate as it can clear the field for Dodrio, while at the same time keeping offensive momentum. Dodrio also appreciates teammates who can set up entry hazards as this makes the foe easier to KO. Pokemon such as Garbodor and Cacturne are useful as both can set up Spikes. Golurk and Golem are also good teammates for Dodrio as both can absorb Electric-type moves aimed at Dodrio while also being able to set up Stealth Rock. Dodrio can in turn KO Pokemon Golurk and Golem struggle with, such as Tangela. Torterra is a good option as it can set up Stealth Rock and beat many of the Rock- and Steel-types that Dodrio struggles with, such as Golem and Bastiodon. Sawk is a very good teammate for Dodrio as Sawk defeats all of Dodrio's aforementioned counters with ease. Zangoose is a great teammate for Dodrio and greatly benefits from its ability to remove opposing Ghost-types, such as Haunter. Finally, Musharna makes an excellent teammate because of its ability to beat Rock-types that plague Dodrio while also being able to clear Dodrio of any status with Heal Bell.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Kacaw
    move 1: Taunt
    move 2: Brave Bird
    move 3: Return
    move 4: Roost
    item: Life Orb / Sharp Beak
    ability: Early Bird
    nature: Jolly
    evs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>Dodrio possesses the always nifty Taunt, which allows it to separate itself from its bird brethren. With the use of Taunt, premier NU walls, such as Alomomola, are put in difficult situations. Taunt prevents Alomomola from using Toxic on Dodrio, forcing it instead to use its weak Waterfall or Scald to do damage. Due to Alomomola also not being able to use Wish, it is quickly downed by the combination of Brave Bird and Roost (you say Alomomola has weak attacks but then you also say Dodrio has troubles with even resisted attacks. Taking into account Alomomola's bulk, Regenerator, and Scald's good chance to neuter Dodrio, maybe you could mention another wall Dodrio beats instead?). Taunt also ensures that Dodrio will not be set up set-up fodder for Pokemon like Calm Mind Musharna and Shift Gear Klang. Return is a strong, recoil-free STAB that hits Electric-types fairly hard (nitpicking but it does sound like you're saying Electric-types are immune to Flying-type attacks). Although this set does have reliable healing, it should be noted that, with Dodrio's pitiful defenses, it is still very susceptible to even resisted attacks.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>Maximizing Attack and Speed is the best route for Dodrio to take. Regardless of invested bulk, Dodrio will not be taking hits any time soon, so it might as well forgo that option. This may sound like a broken record, but Dodrio really can't afford to run an Adamant nature as it needs all the Speed Jolly provides. Early Bird is again the ability of choice, as it's really the only viable option. Life Orb is useful to boost Dodrio's power, and its recoil can be resolved through the use of Roost; however, Sharp Beak can be used if you dislike the thought of recoil. Toxic is a usable option over Return, however Dodrio probably won't last long enough to see it take effect.</p>

    <p>Unfortunately for Dodrio, this set is entirely beaten by most Rock- or Steel-types, such as Golem and Klang. To beat such threats, Pokemon such as Sawk and Torterra are useful teammates for Dodrio as they both destroy Dodrio's counters with ease. This set appreciates entry hazards even more than the Choice Band set as it will often be forcing many switches. Garbodor is useful for its ability to set up Spikes and lure Ground-type attacks that let Dodrio switch in for free. Zangoose is a Pokemon that appreciates the removal of bulky physical walls such as Alomomola, which this Dodrio does excellently, so Zangoose is a great partner. Musharna is also a good partner for Dodrio as it greatly appreciates the cleric support Musharna provides.</p>

    [Other Options]

    <p>Dodrio's other options are quite possibly the definition of horrible. You honestly are better off just sticking to the recommended sets, but alas, if you really want to use something different, Dodrio does technically have other moves in its arsenal. Dodrio can use Faint Attack or Payback to hit Ghost-types harder, but while Pursuit is minimally weaker, it is far more useful. An Agility + Substitute + Liechi Berry set is usable, but with the metagame being dominated by priority attacks, it is not recommended. While Double-Edge looks like a great option on Dodrio, it is unfortunately illegal in tandem with Brave Bird as Double-Edge is a ADV tutor move, while Brave Bird is a 4th generation move that requires breeding. Work Up can be used to give Dodrio move flexibility while having an Attack boost, but Dodrio is much better suited to directly attacking. Drill Peck is a weaker option over Brave Bird to save Dodrio from recoil, but since it won't be taking any hits, you might as well be hitting everything as hard as you can. Steel Wing is an option to hit Rock-types such as Regirock harder, but despite it showing the words, "It's Super Effective!" it won't remotely harm anything. Finally, you can use Frustration over Return if you truly despise your Dodrio, but it is such a beautiful bird that I know that will not be the case.</p>

    [Checks and Counters]

    <p>If it's a Rock- or Steel- type Pokemon, there's a very good chance that it beats Dodrio. Pokemon such as Bastiodon and Regirock stop Dodrio stone cold as Dodrio has no way of harming them (nitpicking but you do mention Toxic as an option and that cripples Regirock so maybe you could say it can't get past them instead). Pokemon that can take repeated hits from Dodrio are also excellent counters. This includes Weezing, who is able to take any attack Dodrio throws at it and burn Dodrio with Will-o-Wisp Will-O-Wisp or KO with Thunderbolt or Ice Beam. Articuno is in the same boat as Weezing, as it can take a Choice Band Brave Bird and respond with Ice Beam, provided it doesn't switch into Stealth Rock. Strong priority also puts a damper on Dodrio's day, as with its weak defenses, Dodrio is incapable of taking any sort of hit. Absol and Skuntank both have strong priorities in Sucker Punch, and can cause Dodrio much misery. Because of Dodrio's low defenses, anything faster with any sort of power to its name can efficiently KO Dodrio. Cinccino and Electrode both dominate Dodrio by using either Tail Slap or Thunderbolt, respectively.</p>
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