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Donphan - Update [QC 3/3][GP WIP]

Discussion in 'Locked / Outdated Analyses' started by Arcticblast, Oct 10, 2012.

  1. SaveMeJebus

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    Donphan (M) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Sturdy
    EVs: 124 HP /252 Atk/ 4 Def/ 128 Spd
    Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - Earthquake
    - Ice Shard
    - Stealth Rock
    - Rapid Spin

    This is the set I use to out speed 167 Spd Jellicant. What do you guys think about investing speed evs on Donphan?
  2. Frog

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    108 Defense with 252 HP and salac terrakion never OHKOes at +2 with rocks

    So try 252/148/108 (adamant)
  3. Arcticblast

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    Defensive already got mostly shot down; I don't want to start a ruckus. I might mention it somewhere.

    Still working on this.
  4. youngjake93

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    Forretress has nothing on offensive Donphan at all(or defensive for that matter)... Donphan can rapid spin away anything it lays, is immune to volt switch, takes like 2% damage from gyro ball, relay SR, and do wayyy more than enough damage for Forretress to give up and switch out.
    I would love if a Forretress tried to check my Donphan, gets rid of their spinner, hazard layer, and dragon check all in one go. If anything, Donphan is a counter to Forretress.
  5. Arcticblast

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    Donphan and Forretress actually sort of counter each other. Neither manages to do much more than 30% (Forretress HP Ice versus max attack Donphan Earthquake) and both can switch out to something that doesn't mind taking a hit - think Cloyster, Latias and Rotom-W, all three of which pose a significant threat to both Pokemon.
  6. yee

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    Please don't oversell- or even sell Donphan in the overview. There is currently a plague of new users putting it in their teams thinking it's a good choice but all of the many times I have seen it in recent memory it was a clearly inferior choice to a different spinner + revamped team or just no spinner + revamped team. On it's best day, it will be a decent choice on a sun team, to this date I have never seen a different spot on a team it deserved over the other options available. Donphan is one of the many pokemon that is OU only because the playerbase on the ladder isn't well-informed enough to make the best choice, and it would make my day if we stopped misinforming them ASAP.
  7. Neliel

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    im not sure if its already listed but i think custab berry can be mentioned as an optional item, thanks to sturdy it can be somewhat usefull in some situations
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    Moving to L&O

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