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Doredia

Discussion in 'Locked / Outdated Analyses' started by Bluewind, Oct 7, 2010.

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  1. Bluewind

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    http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-bw/549.shtml

    So Digimon is just a plain bad Pokemon copy? Well, maybe, but it seems the latter has delivered some sort late revenge by stealing the beloved Lilimon, key character of season one and a much needed improvement of Togemon (OMG, did they still Cacturne / Marakacchi as well!?). Bad comments aside, Doredia is a very interesting Pokemon, probably not strong enough for the OU tier, but will definitely be a force to be reckoned on lower tiers if it ever ends up there. I’ve also avoided writing about weather starter sets, as with Ninetales and Groudon around I’m afraid they’ll be somewhat underwhelming, even pointless.

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    [Overview]
    • One of the few Pokemon that have access to Butterfly Dance.
    • Base 110 Special Attack and 90 Speed are very good for sweeping purposes.
    • Very good support movepool; in opposition to its quite deplorable offensive one.
    • Underwhelming defensive stats.
    [SET]
    name: Boosting Sweeper
    move 1: Sleep Powder
    move 2: Butterfly Dance
    move 3: Giga Drain / Petal Dance
    move 4: Hidden Power Fire / Hidden Power Ice / Hidden Power Ground
    item: Life Orb
    ability: Chlorophyll / Own Tempo
    nature: Timid
    evs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

    Set Comments:
    • Sleep Powder gives it plenty of opportunities to setup Butterfly Dance.
    • Giga Drain, coming out of base 110 Special Attack and after a Butterfly Dance, will wield you loads of HP and should keep you alive for a long time.
    • Doredia is more effective under the sun, where nearly nothing outspeeds it and Hidden Power Fire has its power boosted; but by no means needs sun to sweep.
    Additional Comments:
    • Petal Dance can be used alongside Own Tempo over Giga Drain if you want a hard hitting move without the confusion drawback. However, Grass-type attacks do have very poor coverage, which means being locked will usually result in Doredia being revenge killed by the likes of Heatran, Jirachi and Scizor.
    • Solarbeam can be used if you have sun support, but it’s risky given the emphasis sandstorm was given in 5th gen.
    • Hidden Power Fire is there for coverage against Bug-, Grass- and Steel-types. It also stops common spikers like Nattorei, Skarmory and Forretress from setting up all over Doredia with no retaliation and is boosted by sun.
    • Hidden Power Ice can be used to hit Flying- and Dragon-types, while retaining its coverage against Grass-types.
    • Hidden Power Ground is yet another option, and allows you to hit both Fire- and Steel-types, but that comes at the cost of being unable to effectively hit most Dragon-, Flying- and Grass-types. Added to that, many common Steel-types such as Scizor, Bronzong, Skarmory and Genosect either take normal or no damage from it due to their respective secondary types and abilities.
    Teammates & Counters:
    • As with any other sweeper in the world, entry hazards support is very beneficial.
    • Ninetales and Groudon are two nifty partners due to their Drought ability.
    • Blissey walls it effortlessly.
    • Strong priority users like Scizor, Roobushin and Mamoswine deal high amounts of damage to Doredia and bypass any Speed boosts. Because of that, Skarmory is a good partner, as he can also setup Spikes and Stealth Rock.
    • Other counters depend mostly on whatever Hidden Power type this set is employing. If running Hidden Power Fire, Dragon-types that resist Grass such as Salamence and Giratina and virtually all Fire-types can take on it. When running Hidden Power Ice, besides the aforementioned Fire-types, Steel-types completely halt it. Finally, if running Hidden Power Ground, the same Dragon-types, Giratina and Salamence; Flying-types like Zapdos Togekiss and Grass-types like Celebi stop Doredia.
    [Team Options]
    • Entry hazards are extremely appreciated. Skarmory makes a nice partner to Doredia as he can take on most strong priority users that threaten it and setup both Spikes and Stealth Rock
    • Ninetales and Groudon help every set that employs Chlorophyll due to Drought.
    • Partners should be able to defeat whatever Pokemon the Hidden Power type of choice cannot cover.
    • Tyranitar, despite whipping up a sandstorm, is a good partner, as he can deal with Ho-oh, Lugia and Blissey, 3 Pokemon that completely spit on Doredia with their gargantuan Special Defense.
    [Optional Changes]
    • A Choice Specs set is naturally a choice, but Doredia’s STAB has terrible coverage and outside of its many Grass-type moves, it has no other viable attacks other than Hidden Power.
    • Doredia has an admirable support movepool, composed, among other moves, of Aromatherapy, Leech Seed, Healing Wish and Stun Spore. However, its meager defenses discourage the usage of a dedicated support set.
    [Counters]
    • Blissey walls it effortlessly.
    • Lugia has sky-high Special Defense and a super effective STAB to deal with it. Ho-Oh is in the same boat, but has to watch out for Hidden Power Rock.
    • Strong priority users like Scizor, Roobushin and Mamoswine deal high amounts of damage to Doredia and bypass any Speed boosts.
    • Pokemon that resist Grass and have high Special Defense such as Zapdos and Togekiss are good initial switch-ins, as even a super effective Hidden Power won’t come close of KOing them.
    • Counters depend mostly on whatever Hidden Power type Doredia is employing. If running Hidden Power Fire, Dragon-types that resist Grass such as Salamence and Giratina and virtually all Fire-types can take on it. When running Hidden Power Ice, besides the aforementioned Fire-types, Steel-types completely halt it. Finally, if running Hidden Power Ground, the same Dragon-types, Giratina and Salamence; Flying-types like Zapdos Togekiss and Grass-types like Celebi stop Doredia.
    [Dream World]
    • Doredia gets Leaf Guard as its Dream World ability, but this one is usually outclassed by Chlorophyll if you have sun support.
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    Fixed a spacing error, marked as done. Btw, I dig that she dances in her sprite.
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    Chillarmy has taken over Doredia. Moving.
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