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DP Research Thread #4 ("Newer still")

Discussion in 'Stark Mountain' started by david stone, Jan 20, 2008.

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  1. SMZ

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    Not 100% sure about this, but since if you Magic Coat say a Toxic to a poison type it won't affect him and you won't get poisoned, I'm guessing the same happens because Sub blocks status. I'll try this later as I'm now continuing my Encore trials.
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    Thanks for crediting me on your Magic Coat thing, by the way.

    Poison types can't be poisoned in the first place, and it doesn't bring a substitute into the situation. Pokemon without Insomnia can still be put to sleep via Hypnosis. Now, if you were to say that a Vaporeon with a Sub. up used Toxic, for example, on a Lopunny that Magic Coated it back and the Vaporeon still didn't get poisoned...

    What I'm trying to get at here is maybe Magic Coat goes around Substitutes.
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    You're welcome and about Magic Coat going though subs are you 100% sure? I'm a fan of Magic Coat Porygon 2 lead and I used it a lot in Shoddy, but never really encountered a situation where a foe has a sleeping move and packs a sub while I Magic Coat. If you're not 100% sure I can test this after some trials.
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    It's just a theory. I've never been in that situation before either.
    I just thought that I saw a flaw in your argument there.
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    I got what you aimed it. I was only going with the go-go logic.. I should have compared Sub to Magic Coating while the foe has Safeguard, but it's still not like that.. well I guess I'll test both later on or whatever. OK Just one more trial for 15th, pausing for now then continuing for 20.
    EDIT: Here are 15 for now, 5 more for 20 if it's needed.. to tell the truth I was confused about when does the turn start for the slower Encorer, but I managed to get it, well here are 15 trials for Encore:
    1st trial: 8
    2nd trial: 6
    3rd trial: 6
    4th trial: 6
    5th trial: 8
    6th trial: 5
    7th trial: 5
    8th trial: 5
    9th trial: 5
    10th trial: 5
    11th trial: 4
    12th trial: 7
    13th trial: 6
    14th trial: 6
    15th trial: 8

    And here the percentages of my above trials:
    4 turns- 6.66%
    5 turns- 33.3%
    6 turns- 33.3%
    7 turns- 6.66%
    8 turns- 20.0%

    It shows that the encore turns don't have even distribution. Again might make 5 more for better chances (for more accuracy) if Obi thinks it's needed
  6. RBG

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    Honestly, I don't think that 15 trials for something like that is ever enough. If you want to do a test right, you would do many trials so that way and small fluctions in one number would be balanced out over the long run.
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    I guess I should make more trials..a day specialized for Encore-trials. If I can't/decide not to maybe you/someone else could do so.
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    I'll get around to that, I'm currently in the middle of a long test (wonderguard), followed by a few small ones, and the a big final test (King's Rock).
  9. SMZ

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    Thanks, but that's only if I decide not to do it.
    EDIT: Where's Obi? I haven't seen him on for a day or so.
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    I just put "at least 15" there to get a small, manageable amount for someone to just test if they ever used Encore a few times. It's not enough on its own, that was more for a "group effort" kind of test, with lots of people doing several trials.
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    Then I guess more testing for me and RB Golbat or even more.
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    Pelliper (Spe 78. Paralyzed, Tailwind)
    Ditto (Transformed to 38 Spe Crawdaunt)

    If Paralysis is before Tailwind:

    78 / 4 = 19(.5) * 2 = 38
    (And Ditto will be able to go first)

    If Tailwind is before Paralysis:

    78 * 2 = 156 / 4 = 39
    (And Ditto will never go first)

    Results of test:

    Ditto did go first some of the time

    Ergo, the final Speed Formula is Stat Modifier, Ability, Item, Paralysis, Tailwind
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    Here's Intimidate:
    I go in an in-game battle against a fisherman
    I send in Cresselia
    He sends in Gyarados1
    Cresselia uses Mist
    Gyarados does x
    Cresselia uses Charge Beam
    Gyarados2 comes in and this message appears "protected by the Mist"

    So, Mist blocks Intimidate.

    And here're Heart Swap, Power Swap and Guard Swap:
    In-game double battle(s) (summed)
    A- Heart Swap
    Cresselia and Manaphy (-2Sp.D)
    Cresselia uses Mist
    Manaphy uses Heart Swap and it works
    B- Power Swap
    Cresselia and Mr. Mime (-2Atk)
    Cresselia uses Mist
    Mr. Mime uses Power Swap and it works
    C- Guard Swap
    Cresselia and Mr. Mime (-2Sp.D)
    Cresselia uses Mist
    Mr. Mime uses Guard Swap and it works

    Therefore, Mist does not block Heart Swap/Power Swap/Guard Swap.

    In-game double battle with Rest Early Bird Kangaskhan and Skill Swap Mew
    [1-Early Bird lost]X (wasting turn in order for Kangaskhan to get damaged)
    Mew uses x
    Kangaskhan uses Rest
    Foes do x
    Mew uses Skill Swap
    Kangaskhan is fast asleep (turn #1 sleeping)
    Foes do x
    Mew uses x
    Kangaskhan if fast asleep (turn #2 turn sleeping)
    When Early Bird is lost the remaining sleeping turns are doubled (0.5*2=1). In this case when Kangaskhan lost Early Bird it had to sleep the regular 2 turns of Rest.
    [2-Early Bird gained]
    Foes do x
    Mew uses x
    Kangaskhan uses Rest
    Mew uses Skill Swap (Kangaskhan has Synchronize because of previous SS)
    Kangaskhan is fast asleep (turn #1sleeping)
    Foes do x
    Mew uses x
    Kangaskhan wakes up
    When Early Bird is gained the remaining turns is cut by half and rounded down (2/2=1 or if Skill Swapped after turn 1 -> 1/2= 0.5 rounded down=0). In this case when Kangaskhan regained Early Bird it slept only one turn after using Rest.
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    I know Guts was tested a long, long time ago, but was it ever found out if a Frozen Guts Pokemon has it's attack raised, e.g.:

    Ursaring thawed out!
    Ursaring did a boatload of damage!
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    It's irrelevant and untestable whether freeze boosts Guts. In your example, when Ursaring hits, it's no longer frozen. There is no way to attack while frozen.
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    Does Flame Wheel Raticate unfreeze before it attacks? Cause that might be the only case.
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    Then how about the Quick Feet Ursaring example where it was defrosted but had it's speed multiplied by 1.5 that turn? Is that different?
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    ORder is calculated at the beggining of the turn using the speed of the pokemon at the beggining of the turn. Even though its speed went down when it unfroze, it still went first because of the reason just mentioned.
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    Ah. That would explain why in doubles I always see pokemon being paralyzed and then seemingly not slowing down until next turn, yes?
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    Is Beat Up affected by abilities such as Technician on party Pokemon?
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    Wonderguard test



    OK, I've started testing Wonderguard to see if any other moves besides Fire Fang hit through it. You can help test this too! All you need are (At least for the method I use):

    DS 1: Shedinja, pokemon with attacking moves

    DS 2: Porygon2 with Trace, Conversion, Magnet Rise, + normal and electric moves.

    Conversion will change Porygon2s type to the type of any moves it has.

    If Porygon2 is Normal, only Fighting type moves will hit it. (Not sure how Ghost Type moves will interact or what message it will give if they hit but do 0 damage)

    If Porygon2 is Electric, only Ground type moves will hit it.

    I've tested a few moves so far, if you PM me results of your test, I will update this post with results of moves tested:

    The List:
    Code:
    Pound
    Karate Chop
    DoubleSlap
    Comet Punch
    Mega Punch
    Pay Day
    Fire Punch – Groudon on Porygon2 NO
    Ice Punch  – Medicham on Porygon2 NO
    ThunderPunch – Medicham on Porygon2 NO
    Scratch
    Vicegrip
    Guillotine
    Razor Wind
    Cut
    Gust
    Wing Attack
    Fly
    Bind
    Slam
    Vine Whip
    Stomp
    Double Kick
    Mega Kick
    Jump Kick
    Rolling Kick
    Headbutt
    Horn Attack
    Fury Attack
    Horn Drill
    Tackle
    Body Slam
    Wrap
    Take Down
    Thrash
    Double-Edge
    Poison Sting
    Twineddle
    Pin Missle
    Bite
    Sonicboom
    Acid
    Ember
    Flamethrower
    Water Gun
    Hydro Pump – Salamence on Porygon2 NO
    Surf – Palkia on Porygon2 NO
    Ice Beam
    Blizzard
    Psybeam  – Octillery on Porygon2 NO
    BubbleBeam
    Aurora Beam – Octillery on Porygon2 NO
    Hyper Beam
    Peck
    Drill Peck
    Submission
    Low Kick
    Counter
    Seismic Toss
    Strength
    Absorb
    Mega Drain
    Razor Leaf
    SolarBeam
    Petal Dance
    Dragon Rage
    Fire Spin
    Thunder Shock
    Thunderbolt
    Thunder – Deoxys-N on Porygon2 NO
    Rock Throw
    Earthquake  – Groudon on Porygon2 NO
    Fissure
    Dig
    Confusion
    Psychic – Wormadan-G on Porygon2 NO
    Quick Attack
    Rage
    Night Shade
    Bide
    Selfdestruct
    Egg Bomb
    Lick
    Smog
    Sludge
    Bone Club
    Fire Blast – Salamence on Porygon2 NO
    Waterfall
    Clamp
    Swift
    Skull Bash
    Spike Cannon
    Hi Jump Kick – Medicham on Gardevoir NO
    Dream Eater
    Barrage
    Leech Life
    Sky Attack
    Bubble
    Dizzy Punch
    Psywave
    Crabhammer
    Explosion  – Metagross on Porygon2 NO
    Fury Swipes
    Bonemerang
    Rock Slide – Camerupt on Porygon2 NO
    Hyper Fang
    Tri Attack
    Supper Fang
    Slash
    Struggle – YES, but already known
    Triple Kick
    Thief
    Flame Wheel
    Snore
    Flail
    Aeroblast
    Reversal
    Powder Snow
    Mach Punch
    Faint Attack
    Sludge Bomb
    Mud Slap
    Octozooka – Octillery on Porygon2 NO
    Zap Cannon
    Icy Wind
    Bone Rush
    Outrage – Medicham on Porygon2 NO
    Giga Drain
    Rollout
    False Swipe
    Spark
    Fury Cutter
    Steel Wing
    Return
    Present
    Frustration
    Sacred Fire
    Magnitude - Camerput on Poryogn2 NO
    DynamicPunch
    Megahorn
    DragonBreath
    Pursuit
    Rapid Spin
    Iron Tail
    Metal Claw
    Vital Throw
    Hidden Power
    Cross Chop
    Twister
    Crunch
    Mirror Coat
    ExtremeSpeed – Rayquaza on Porygon2 NO
    AncientPower
    Shadow Ball
    Future Sight – YES, but already known
    Rock Smash
    Whirlpool
    Beat Up – YES, but already known
    Fake Out
    Uproar
    Spit Up
    Heat Wave
    Façade
    Focus Punch
    Smelling Salt
    Superpower
    Revenge
    Brick Break
    Knock Off
    Endeavor
    Eruption
    Secret Power
    Dive
    Arm Thrust
    Luster Purge
    Mist Ball
    Blaze Kick
    Ice Ball
    Needle Arm
    Hyper Voice
    Poison Fang
    Crush Claw
    Blast Burn
    Hydro Cannon
    Meteor Mash -  – Metagross on Porygon2 NO
    Astonish
    Weather Ball
    Air Cutter
    Overheat
    Rock Tomb
    Silver Wind
    Water Spout
    Signal Beam
    Shadow Punch
    Extrasensory
    Sky Uppercut
    Sand Tomb
    Sheer Cold
    Muddy Water
    Bullet Seed
    Aerial Ace
    Icicle Spear
    Dragon Claw  – Groudon on Porygon2 NO
    Frenzy Plant
    Bounce
    Mud Shot
    Poison Tail
    Covet
    Volt Tackle
    Magical Leaf
    Leaf Blade
    Rock Blast
    Shock Wave
    Water Pulse
    Doom Desire – YES but Already known
    Psycho Boost – Deoxys-N on Porygon2 NO
    Wake-Up Slap
    Hammer Arm
    Gyro Ball
    Brine
    Natural Gift
    Feint
    Pluck
    Metal Burst
    U-Turn
    Close Combat
    Payback
    Assurance
    Fling
    Trump Card
    Wring Out
    Punishment
    Last Resort
    Sucker Punch
    Flare Blitz
    Force Palm
    Aura Sphere – Palkia on Gardevoir NO
    Poison Jab
    Dark Pulse
    Night Slash
    Aqua Tail
    Seed Bomb
    Air Slash
    X-Scissor  – Shedinja on Porygon2 NO
    Bug Buzz
    Dragon Pulse – Salamence on Porygon2 NO
    Dragon Rush
    Power Gem
    Drain Punch
    Vacuum Wave
    Focus Blast
    Energy Ball – Wormadam-G on Porygon2 NO
    Brave Bird
    Earth Power – Palkia on Porygon2 NO
    Giga Impact
    Bullet Punch
    Avalanche
    Ice Shard
    Shadow Claw
    Thunder Fang
    Ice Fang
    Fire Fang – YES (for some weird reason) but already known
    Shadow Sneak
    Mud Bomb
    Psycho Cut – Medicham on Porygon2 NO
    Zen Headbutt
    Mirror Shot
    Flash Cannon
    Rock Climb
    Draco Meteor – Salamence on Porygon2 NO
    Discharge
    Lava Plume – Camerput on Poryogn2 NO
    Leaf Storm – Wormadam-G on Porygon2 NO
    Power Whip
    Rock Wrecker
    Cross Poison
    Gunk Shot
    Iron Head
    Magnet Bomb
    Stone Edge  – Groudon on Porygon2 NO
    Grass Knot
    Chatter
    Judgment
    Bug Bite
    Charge Beam
    Wood Hammer
    Aqua Jet
    Attack Order
    Head Smash
    Double Hit
    Roar of Time
    Spatial Rend – Palkia on Porygon2 NO
    Crush Grip
    Magma Storm
    Seed Flare
    Ominous Wind
    Shadow Force
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    King's Rock/Razor Fang test

    OK, Here is the King's Rock test, just PM or post the results and I will update them. This should be easier, just do 20 trials. If it flinches, you are done! If it doesn't after 20 report those results.

    Moves in Bold already Flinch, so you need to tell how many times it flinches out of 30-40

    I know that Amazing Ampharos got the data from Veekun's pokedex, but i feel it should be tested anyway, just to make sure.

    The List
    Code:
    Pound
    Karate Chop
    DoubleSlap
    Comet Punch
    Mega Punch
    Pay Day
    Fire Punch
    Ice Punch
    ThunderPunch
    Scratch
    Vicegrip
    Guillotine
    Razor Wind
    Cut
    Gust
    Wing Attack
    Fly
    Bind
    Slam
    Vine Whip
    [B]Stomp[/B]
    Double Kick
    Mega Kick
    Jump Kick
    [B]Rolling Kick[/B]
    [B]Headbutt[/B]
    Horn Attack
    Fury Attack
    Horn Drill
    Tackle
    Body Slam
    Wrap
    Take Down
    Thrash
    Double-Edge
    Poison Sting
    Twineddle
    Pin Missle
    [B]Bite[/B]
    Sonicboom
    Acid
    Ember
    Flamethrower
    Water Gun
    Hydro Pump
    Surf
    Ice Beam
    Blizzard
    Psybeam
    BubbleBeam
    Aurora Beam
    Hyper Beam
    Peck
    Drill Peck
    Submission
    Low Kick
    Counter
    Seismic Toss
    Strength
    Absorb
    Mega Drain
    Razor Leaf
    SolarBeam
    Petal Dance
    Dragon Rage
    Fire Spin
    Thunder Shock
    Thunderbolt
    Thunder
    Rock Throw
    Earthquake
    Fissure
    Dig
    Confusion
    Psychic
    Quick Attack
    Rage
    Night Shade
    Bide
    Selfdestruct
    Egg Bomb
    Lick
    Smog
    Sludge
    Bone Club
    Fire Blast
    [B]Waterfall[/B]
    Clamp
    Swift
    Skull Bash
    Spike Cannon
    Hi Jump Kick
    Dream Eater
    Barrage
    Leech Life
    [B]Sky Attack[/B]
    Bubble
    Dizzy Punch
    Psywave
    Crabhammer
    Explosion
    Fury Swipes
    Bonemerang
    [B]Rock Slide[/B]
    Hyper Fang
    Tri Attack
    Super Fang
    Slash
    Struggle
    Triple Kick
    Thief
    Flame Wheel
    [B]Snore[/B]
    Flail
    Aeroblast
    Reversal
    Powder Snow
    Mach Punch
    Faint Attack
    Sludge Bomb
    Mud Slap
    Octozooka
    Zap Cannon
    Icy Wind
    Bone Rush
    Outrage
    Giga Drain
    Rollout
    False Swipe
    Spark
    Fury Cutter
    Steel Wing
    Return
    Present
    Frustration
    Sacred Fire
    Magnitude
    DynamicPunch
    Megahorn
    DragonBreath
    Pursuit
    Rapid Spin
    Iron Tail
    Metal Claw
    Vital Throw
    Hidden Power
    Cross Chop
    [B]Twister[/B]
    Crunch
    Mirror Coat
    ExtremeSpeed
    AncientPower
    Shadow Ball
    Future Sight
    Rock Smash
    Whirlpool
    Beat Up
    [B]Fake Out[/B] - No need to test
    Uproar
    Spit Up
    Heat Wave
    Façade
    Focus Punch
    Smelling Salt
    Superpower
    Revenge
    Brick Break
    Knock Off
    Endeavor
    Eruption
    Secret Power
    Dive
    Arm Thrust
    Luster Purge
    Mist Ball
    Blaze Kick
    Ice Ball
    [B]Needle Arm[/B]
    Hyper Voice
    Poison Fang
    Crush Claw
    Blast Burn
    Hydro Cannon
    Meteor Mash
    [B]Astonish[/B]
    Weather Ball
    Air Cutter
    Overheat
    Rock Tomb
    Silver Wind
    Water Spout
    Signal Beam
    Shadow Punch
    [B]Extrasensory[/B]
    Sky Uppercut
    Sand Tomb
    Sheer Cold
    Muddy Water
    Bullet Seed
    Aerial Ace
    Icicle Spear
    Dragon Claw
    Frenzy Plant
    Bounce
    Mud Shot
    Poison Tail
    Covet
    Volt Tackle
    Magical Leaf
    Leaf Blade
    Rock Blast
    Shock Wave
    Water Pulse
    Doom Desire
    Psycho Boost
    Wake-Up Slap
    Hammer Arm
    Gyro Ball
    Brine
    Natural Gift
    Feint
    Pluck
    Metal Burst
    U-Turn
    Close Combat
    Payback
    Assurance
    Fling
    Trump Card
    Wring Out
    Punishment
    Last Resort
    Sucker Punch
    Flare Blitz
    Force Palm
    Aura Sphere
    Poison Jab
    [B]Dark Pulse[/B]
    Night Slash
    Aqua Tail
    Seed Bomb
    [B]Air Slash[/B]
    X-Scissor
    Bug Buzz
    Dragon Pulse
    [B]Dragon Rush[/B]
    Power Gem
    Drain Punch
    Vacuum Wave
    Focus Blast
    Energy Ball
    Brave Bird
    Earth Power
    Giga Impact
    Bullet Punch
    Avalanche
    Ice Shard
    Shadow Claw
    [B]Thunder Fang[/B]
    [B]Ice Fang[/B]
    [B]Fire Fang[/B]
    Shadow Sneak
    Mud Bomb
    Psycho Cut
    Zen Headbutt
    Mirror Shot
    Flash Cannon
    Rock Climb
    Draco Meteor
    Discharge
    Lava Plume
    Leaf Storm
    Power Whip
    Rock Wrecker
    Cross Poison
    Gunk Shot
    [B]Iron Head[/B]
    Magnet Bomb
    Stone Edge
    Grass Knot
    Chatter
    Judgment
    Bug Bite
    Charge Beam
    Wood Hammer
    Aqua Jet
    Attack Order
    Head Smash
    Double Hit
    Roar of Time
    Spatial Rend
    Crush Grip
    Magma Storm
    Seed Flare
    Ominous Wind
    Shadow Force
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    Here are those two lists sorted alphabetically:

    Code:
    Absorb
    Acid
    Aerial Ace
    Aeroblast
    Air Cutter
    Air Slash
    AncientPower
    Aqua Jet
    Aqua Tail
    Arm Thrust
    Assurance
    Astonish
    Attack Order
    Aura Sphere – Palkia on Gardevoir NO
    Aurora Beam – Octillery on Porygon2 NO
    Avalanche
    Barrage
    Beat Up – YES, but already known
    Bide
    Bind
    Bite
    Blast Burn
    Blaze Kick
    Blizzard
    Body Slam
    Bone Club
    Bone Rush
    Bonemerang
    Bounce
    Brave Bird
    Brick Break
    Brine
    Bubble
    BubbleBeam
    Bug Bite
    Bug Buzz
    Bullet Punch
    Bullet Seed
    Charge Beam
    Chatter
    Clamp
    Close Combat
    Comet Punch
    Confusion
    Counter
    Covet
    Crabhammer
    Cross Chop
    Cross Poison
    Crunch
    Crush Claw
    Crush Grip
    Cut
    Dark Pulse
    Dig
    Discharge
    Dive
    Dizzy Punch
    Doom Desire – YES but Already known
    Double Hit
    Double Kick
    Double-Edge
    DoubleSlap
    Draco Meteor – Salamence on Porygon2 NO
    Dragon Claw – Groudon on Porygon2 NO
    Dragon Pulse – Salamence on Porygon2 NO
    Dragon Rage
    Dragon Rush
    DragonBreath
    Drain Punch
    Dream Eater
    Drill Peck
    DynamicPunch
    Earth Power – Palkia on Porygon2 NO
    Earthquake – Groudon on Porygon2 NO
    Egg Bomb
    Ember
    Endeavor
    Energy Ball – Wormadam-G on Porygon2 NO
    Eruption
    Explosion – Metagross on Porygon2 NO
    Extrasensory
    ExtremeSpeed – Rayquaza on Porygon2 NO
    Façade
    Faint Attack
    Fake Out
    False Swipe
    Feint
    Fire Blast – Salamence on Porygon2 NO
    Fire Fang – YES (for some weird reason) but already known
    Fire Punch – Groudon on Porygon2 NO
    Fire Spin
    Fissure
    Flail
    Flame Wheel
    Flamethrower
    Flare Blitz
    Flash Cannon
    Fling
    Fly
    Focus Blast
    Focus Punch
    Force Palm
    Frenzy Plant
    Frustration
    Fury Attack
    Fury Cutter
    Fury Swipes
    Future Sight – YES, but already known
    Giga Drain
    Giga Impact
    Grass Knot
    Guillotine
    Gunk Shot
    Gust
    Gyro Ball
    Hammer Arm
    Head Smash
    Headbutt
    Heat Wave
    Hi Jump Kick – Medicham on Gardevoir NO
    Hidden Power
    Horn Attack
    Horn Drill
    Hydro Cannon
    Hydro Pump – Salamence on Porygon2 NO
    Hyper Beam
    Hyper Fang
    Hyper Voice
    Ice Ball
    Ice Beam
    Ice Fang
    Ice Punch – Medicham on Porygon2 NO
    Ice Shard
    Icicle Spear
    Icy Wind
    Iron Head
    Iron Tail
    Judgment
    Jump Kick
    Karate Chop
    Knock Off
    Last Resort
    Lava Plume – Camerput on Poryogn2 NO
    Leaf Blade
    Leaf Storm – Wormadam-G on Porygon2 NO
    Leech Life
    Lick
    Low Kick
    Luster Purge
    Mach Punch
    Magical Leaf
    Magma Storm
    Magnet Bomb
    Magnitude - Camerput on Poryogn2 NO
    Mega Drain
    Mega Kick
    Mega Punch
    Megahorn
    Metal Burst
    Metal Claw
    Meteor Mash - – Metagross on Porygon2 NO
    Mirror Coat
    Mirror Shot
    Mist Ball
    Mud Bomb
    Mud Shot
    Mud Slap
    Muddy Water
    Natural Gift
    Needle Arm
    Night Shade
    Night Slash
    Octozooka – Octillery on Porygon2 NO
    Ominous Wind
    Outrage – Medicham on Porygon2 NO
    Overheat
    Pay Day
    Payback
    Peck
    Petal Dance
    Pin Missle
    Pluck
    Poison Fang
    Poison Jab
    Poison Sting
    Poison Tail
    Pound
    Powder Snow
    Power Gem
    Power Whip
    Present
    Psybeam – Octillery on Porygon2 NO
    Psychic – Wormadan-G on Porygon2 NO
    Psycho Boost – Deoxys-N on Porygon2 NO
    Psycho Cut – Medicham on Porygon2 NO
    Psywave
    Punishment
    Pursuit
    Quick Attack
    Rage
    Rapid Spin
    Razor Leaf
    Razor Wind
    Return
    Revenge
    Reversal
    Roar of Time
    Rock Blast
    Rock Climb
    Rock Slide – Camerupt on Porygon2 NO
    Rock Smash
    Rock Throw
    Rock Tomb
    Rock Wrecker
    Rolling Kick
    Rollout
    Sacred Fire
    Sand Tomb
    Scratch
    Secret Power
    Seed Bomb
    Seed Flare
    Seismic Toss
    Selfdestruct
    Shadow Ball
    Shadow Claw
    Shadow Force
    Shadow Punch
    Shadow Sneak
    Sheer Cold
    Shock Wave
    Signal Beam
    Silver Wind
    Skull Bash
    Sky Attack
    Sky Uppercut
    Slam
    Slash
    Sludge
    Sludge Bomb
    Smelling Salt
    Smog
    Snore
    SolarBeam
    Sonicboom
    Spark
    Spatial Rend – Palkia on Porygon2 NO
    Spike Cannon
    Spit Up
    Steel Wing
    Stomp
    Stone Edge – Groudon on Porygon2 NO
    Strength
    Struggle – YES, but already known
    Submission
    Sucker Punch
    Superpower
    Supper Fang
    Surf – Palkia on Porygon2 NO
    Swift
    Tackle
    Take Down
    Thief
    Thrash
    Thunder – Deoxys-N on Porygon2 NO
    Thunder Fang
    Thunder Shock
    Thunderbolt
    ThunderPunch – Medicham on Porygon2 NO
    Tri Attack
    Triple Kick
    Trump Card
    Twineddle
    Twister
    Uproar
    U-Turn
    Vacuum Wave
    Vicegrip
    Vine Whip
    Vital Throw
    Volt Tackle
    Wake-Up Slap
    Water Gun
    Water Pulse
    Water Spout
    Waterfall
    Weather Ball
    Whirlpool
    Wing Attack
    Wood Hammer
    Wrap
    Wring Out
    X-Scissor – Shedinja on Porygon2 NO
    Zap Cannon
    Zen Headbutt

    Code:
    Absorb
       Acid
       Aerial Ace
       Aeroblast
       Air Cutter
       [B]Air Slash[/B]
       AncientPower
       Aqua Jet
       Aqua Tail
       Arm Thrust
       Assurance
       [B]Astonish[/B]
       Attack Order
       Aura Sphere
       Aurora Beam
       Avalanche
       Barrage
       Beat Up
       Bide
       Bind
       [B]Bite[/B]
       Blast Burn
       Blaze Kick
       Blizzard
       Body Slam
       Bone Club
       Bone Rush
       Bonemerang
       Bounce
       Brave Bird
       Brick Break
       Brine
       Bubble
       BubbleBeam
       Bug Bite
       Bug Buzz
       Bullet Punch
       Bullet Seed
       Charge Beam
       Chatter
       Clamp
       Close Combat
       Comet Punch
       Confusion
       Counter
       Covet
       Crabhammer
       Cross Chop
       Cross Poison
       Crunch
       Crush Claw
       Crush Grip
       Cut
       [B]Dark Pulse[/B]
       Dig
       Discharge
       Dive
       Dizzy Punch
       Doom Desire
       Double Hit
       Double Kick
       Double-Edge
       DoubleSlap
       Draco Meteor
       Dragon Claw
       Dragon Pulse
       Dragon Rage
       [B]Dragon Rush[/B]
       DragonBreath
       Drain Punch
       Dream Eater
       Drill Peck
       DynamicPunch
       Earth Power
       Earthquake
       Egg Bomb
       Ember
       Endeavor
       Energy Ball
       Eruption
       Explosion
       [B]Extrasensory[/B]
       ExtremeSpeed
       Façade
       Faint Attack
       [B]Fake Out[/B] - No need to test
       False Swipe
       Feint
       Fire Blast
       [B]Fire Fang[/B]
       Fire Punch
       Fire Spin
       Fissure
       Flail
       Flame Wheel
       Flamethrower
       Flare Blitz
       Flash Cannon
       Fling
       Fly
       Focus Blast
       Focus Punch
       Force Palm
       Frenzy Plant
       Frustration
       Fury Attack
       Fury Cutter
       Fury Swipes
       Future Sight
       Giga Drain
       Giga Impact
       Grass Knot
       Guillotine
       Gunk Shot
       Gust
       Gyro Ball
       Hammer Arm
       Head Smash
       [B]Headbutt[/B]
       Heat Wave
       Hi Jump Kick
       Hidden Power
       Horn Attack
       Horn Drill
       Hydro Cannon
       Hydro Pump
       Hyper Beam
       Hyper Fang
       Hyper Voice
       Ice Ball
       Ice Beam
       [B]Ice Fang[/B]
       Ice Punch
       Ice Shard
       Icicle Spear
       Icy Wind
       [B]Iron Head[/B]
       Iron Tail
       Judgment
       Jump Kick
       Karate Chop
       Knock Off
       Last Resort
       Lava Plume
       Leaf Blade
       Leaf Storm
       Leech Life
       Lick
       Low Kick
       Luster Purge
       Mach Punch
       Magical Leaf
       Magma Storm
       Magnet Bomb
       Magnitude
       Mega Drain
       Mega Kick
       Mega Punch
       Megahorn
       Metal Burst
       Metal Claw
       Meteor Mash
       Mirror Coat
       Mirror Shot
       Mist Ball
       Mud Bomb
       Mud Shot
       Mud Slap
       Muddy Water
       Natural Gift
       [B]Needle Arm[/B]
       Night Shade
       Night Slash
       Octozooka
       Ominous Wind
       Outrage
       Overheat
       Pay Day
       Payback
       Peck
       Petal Dance
       Pin Missle
       Pluck
       Poison Fang
       Poison Jab
       Poison Sting
       Poison Tail
       Pound
       Powder Snow
       Power Gem
       Power Whip
       Present
       Psybeam
       Psychic
       Psycho Boost
       Psycho Cut
       Psywave
       Punishment
       Pursuit
       Quick Attack
       Rage
       Rapid Spin
       Razor Leaf
       Razor Wind
       Return
       Revenge
       Reversal
       Roar of Time
       Rock Blast
       Rock Climb
       [B]Rock Slide[/B]
       Rock Smash
       Rock Throw
       Rock Tomb
       Rock Wrecker
       [B]Rolling Kick[/B]
       Rollout
       Sacred Fire
       Sand Tomb
       Scratch
       Secret Power
       Seed Bomb
       Seed Flare
       Seismic Toss
       Selfdestruct
       Shadow Ball
       Shadow Claw
       Shadow Force
       Shadow Punch
       Shadow Sneak
       Sheer Cold
       Shock Wave
       Signal Beam
       Silver Wind
       Skull Bash
       [B]Sky Attack[/B]
       Sky Uppercut
       Slam
       Slash
       Sludge
       Sludge Bomb
       Smelling Salt
       Smog
       [B]Snore[/B]
       SolarBeam
       Sonicboom
       Spark
       Spatial Rend
       Spike Cannon
       Spit Up
       Steel Wing
       [B]Stomp[/B]
       Stone Edge
       Strength
       Struggle
       Submission
       Sucker Punch
       Super Fang
       Superpower
       Surf
       Swift
       Tackle
       Take Down
       Thief
       Thrash
       Thunder
       [B]Thunder Fang[/B]
       Thunder Shock
       Thunderbolt
       ThunderPunch
       Tri Attack
       Triple Kick
       Trump Card
       Twineddle
       [B]Twister[/B]
       Uproar
       U-Turn
       Vacuum Wave
       Vicegrip
       Vine Whip
       Vital Throw
       Volt Tackle
       Wake-Up Slap
       Water Gun
       Water Pulse
       Water Spout
       [B]Waterfall[/B]
       Weather Ball
       Whirlpool
       Wing Attack
       Wood Hammer
       Wrap
       Wring Out
       X-Scissor
       Zap Cannon
       Zen Headbutt
  24. Shelcario

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    So for that King's Rock test do you need two DS's? And also do we need to test all those moves?
  25. RBG

    RBG But I keep cruising, can't stop, won't stop grooving.
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    You shouldnt, just find a double battle and attack a Skarmory/Blissey/Gliscor/Insert Wall That Can Heal Here.

    I feel every move should be tested just to be 100% sure.

    Oh, and Obi, you might want to use the code tags in your post so we don't make this page too long
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