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Dream World CCAT (Signups for laddering!)

Discussion in 'Dream World' started by Harsha, Mar 14, 2012.

  1. bluemon

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    we're really lacking a physical wall...

    skarmory
    ferrothorn
    forrestress
  2. False Sense

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    Standard Jirachi: As I stated in my nomination, the standard set of Jirachi provides the team with much needed support to help facilitate a sweep from one of the team's other powerhouses.
    Ferrothorn: Same basic purpose as Jirachi. It provides a different set of resistances that Jirachi that the team could need.
    Empoleon: It has unique resistances, but it adds a third electric weakness to the team and doesn't provide the extremely helpful paralysis support. (However, Meloetta already does some, so that's not too big of an issue.)
  3. shrang

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    Yeah, now that I've thought about it, Ferrothorn is probably a better fit that Empoleon. We can still fight the odd Kingdra with it, while Rain Volc is finding it hard to set up on the team anyway. Just one thing though, if we do use Ferrothorn, I would suggest that we replace something on it with Thunder Wave for some paralysis support.

    Ferrothorn
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    Icy Wind Jirachi
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    Ferrothorn
    Icy Wind Jirachi
    SpD Empoleon
  5. Jukain

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    Ferrothorn
    Skarmory
    Icy Wind Jirachi
  6. The QWAZ

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    SpD Forretress
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  7. Adam Lambert

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    Icy Wind Jirachi
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    Empoleon
  8. Harsha

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    Welcome to the team, Ferrothorn! Alright, with that, we now have 6 Pokemon -- a complete team. At this point, we're going to start laddering with our team at the moment. Anybody is free to take it out for a spin; all you need to do is leave your name, alt, and ladder standing at the bottom. We're trying to build the most competitive team with Meloetta possible, and laddering with the team is a great way to try that out. Here is an example of a registration:

    [box]Forum Name: Harsha
    PO Laddering Alt: harsha2014
    Ladder Standing: 1000 (update this as you go!)[/box]

    This is the team:

    team (open)
    Meloetta @ Expert Belt
    Ability: Serene Grace
    EVs: 64 Atk / 252 SpA / 192 Spe
    Hasty Nature (+Spe, -Def)
    - Relic Song
    - Close Combat
    - Thunder
    - Hidden Power Ice

    Politoed @ Choice Scarf
    Trait: Drizzle
    EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
    Modest Nature (+SpA, -Atk)
    - Hydro Pump
    - Ice Beam
    - Hidden Power Grass
    - Perish Song

    Terrakion @ Air Balloon
    Trait: Justified
    EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
    Jolly Nature (+Spe, -SpA)
    - Swords Dance
    - Rock Polish
    - Close Combat
    - Stone Edge

    Keldeo @ Leftovers
    Trait: Justified
    EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
    Timid Nature (+Spe, -Atk)
    - Substitute
    - Calm Mind
    - Hydro Pump / Surf
    - Secret Sword

    Latias @ Leftovers
    Ability: Levitate
    EVs: 92 HP / 164 SpA / 252 Spe
    Timid Nature (+Spe, -Atk)
    - Calm Mind
    - Psyshock
    - Dragon Pulse / Surf
    - Recover

    Ferrothorn @ Shed Shell
    Trait: Iron Barbs
    EVs: 252 HP / 88 Def / 168 SpD | 0 Spe
    Relaxed Nature (+SpD, -Spe)
    - Gyro Ball
    - Stealth Rock
    - Leech Seed
    - Power Whip

    Let's see what we can do guys! I'm excited to see how an original team fares :d
  9. dice

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    only a few battles in and meloetta doin work . though we do seem weak to thundurus .

    meloetta doin work (open)

    Battle between Shem and Harsha Is Tubby started!





    Tier: Dream World OU


    Mode: Singles


    Variation: +46, -34


    Rule: Rated


    Rule: Sleep Clause


    Rule: Species Clause


    Rule: Wifi Battle





    Your team: Meloetta / Politoed / Terrakion / Keldeo / Latias / Ferrothorn


    Opponent's team: Lucario / Garchomp / Ferrothorn / Mamoswine / Tyranitar / Gliscor





    Shem sent out Tyranitar!


    Harsha Is Tubby sent out Meloetta!


    Shem's Tyranitar's Sand Stream whipped up a sandstorm!





    Start of turn 1


    Meloetta used Close Combat!


    It's super effective!


    Shem's Tyranitar lost 100% of its health!


    Shem's Tyranitar fainted!


    Meloetta's Defense fell!


    Meloetta's Sp. Def. fell!





    The sandstorm rages!


    Meloetta is buffeted by the sandstorm!


    Shem sent out Gliscor!





    Start of turn 2


    Meloetta used Hidden Power!


    It's super effective!


    Shem's Gliscor lost 100% of its health!


    Shem's Gliscor fainted!





    The sandstorm rages!


    Meloetta is buffeted by the sandstorm!


    Shem sent out Lucario!





    Start of turn 3


    Harsha Is Tubby called Meloetta back!


    Harsha Is Tubby sent out Politoed!





    Politoed's Drizzle made it rain!


    Shem's Lucario used Close Combat!


    Politoed lost 315 HP! (98% of its health)


    Shem's Lucario's Defense fell!


    Shem's Lucario's Sp. Def. fell!


    Shem's Lucario is hurt by its Life Orb!





    Rain continues to fall!





    Start of turn 4


    Shem's Lucario used ExtremeSpeed!


    Politoed lost 6 HP! (1% of its health)


    Politoed fainted!


    Shem's Lucario is hurt by its Life Orb!





    Rain continues to fall!


    Harsha Is Tubby sent out Meloetta!





    Start of turn 5


    Meloetta used Close Combat!


    It's super effective!


    Shem's Lucario lost 80% of its health!


    Shem's Lucario fainted!


    Meloetta's Defense fell!


    Meloetta's Sp. Def. fell!





    Rain continues to fall!


    Shem sent out Ferrothorn!





    Start of turn 6


    Meloetta used Close Combat!


    It's super effective!


    Shem's Ferrothorn lost 39% of its health!


    Shem's Ferrothorn's Iron Barbs hurts Meloetta


    Meloetta's Defense fell!


    Meloetta's Sp. Def. fell!





    Shem's Ferrothorn used Leech Seed!


    Meloetta was seeded!





    Rain continues to fall!


    Shem's Ferrothorn restored a little HP using its Leftovers!


    Meloetta's health is sapped by leech seed.





    Start of turn 7


    Meloetta used Relic Song!


    It's not very effective...


    Shem's Ferrothorn lost 15% of its health!





    Shem's Ferrothorn used Stealth Rock!


    Pointed stones float in the air around Harsha Is Tubby's team!





    Rain continues to fall!


    Shem's Ferrothorn restored a little HP using its Leftovers!


    Meloetta's health is sapped by leech seed.





    Start of turn 8


    Meloetta used Close Combat!


    It's super effective!


    Shem's Ferrothorn lost 79% of its health!


    Shem's Ferrothorn's Iron Barbs hurts Meloetta


    Meloetta's Defense fell!


    Meloetta's Sp. Def. fell!





    Shem's Ferrothorn used Power Whip!


    Meloetta lost 131 HP! (38% of its health)


    Meloetta fainted!





    Rain continues to fall!


    Shem's Ferrothorn restored a little HP using its Leftovers!


    Harsha Is Tubby sent out Keldeo!


    Pointed stones dug into Keldeo!





    Start of turn 9


    Keldeo used Secret Sword!


    It's super effective!


    Shem's Ferrothorn lost 8% of its health!


    Shem's Ferrothorn fainted!





    Rain continues to fall!


    Keldeo restored a little HP using its Leftovers!


    Shem sent out Garchomp!





    Start of turn 10


    Keldeo used Hydro Pump!


    The attack of Keldeo missed!





    Shem's Garchomp used Outrage!


    Keldeo lost 229 HP! (70% of its health)





    Rain continues to fall!


    Keldeo restored a little HP using its Leftovers!





    Start of turn 11


    Keldeo used Hydro Pump!


    The attack of Keldeo missed!





    Shem's Garchomp used Outrage!


    Keldeo lost 114 HP! (35% of its health)


    Keldeo fainted!





    Rain continues to fall!


    Harsha Is Tubby: sand veil works in rain?


    Harsha Is Tubby sent out Ferrothorn!


    Pointed stones dug into Ferrothorn!





    Start of turn 12


    Shem's Garchomp used Outrage!


    It's not very effective...


    Ferrothorn lost 75 HP! (21% of its health)


    Ferrothorn's Iron Barbs hurts Shem's Garchomp


    Shem's Garchomp calmed down!


    Shem's Garchomp became confused!





    Ferrothorn used Leech Seed!


    Shem's Garchomp was seeded!





    Rain continues to fall!


    Shem's Garchomp restored a little HP using its Leftovers!


    Shem's Garchomp's health is sapped by leech seed.





    Start of turn 13


    Shem called Garchomp back!


    Shem sent out Mamoswine!





    Ferrothorn used Gyro Ball!


    It's super effective!


    Shem's Mamoswine lost 67% of its health!





    Rain continues to fall!





    Start of turn 14


    Shem's Mamoswine used Earthquake!


    Ferrothorn lost 163 HP! (46% of its health)


    Shem's Mamoswine is hurt by its Life Orb!





    Ferrothorn used Gyro Ball!


    It's super effective!


    Shem's Mamoswine lost 22% of its health!


    Shem's Mamoswine fainted!





    Rain continues to fall!


    Shem sent out Garchomp!





    Start of turn 15


    Shem's Garchomp used Earthquake!


    Ferrothorn lost 124 HP! (35% of its health)





    Ferrothorn used Gyro Ball!


    Shem's Garchomp lost 39% of its health!





    Rain continues to fall!


    Shem's Garchomp restored a little HP using its Leftovers!





    Start of turn 16


    Shem's Garchomp used Earthquake!


    Ferrothorn lost 12 HP! (3% of its health)


    Ferrothorn fainted!





    Rain continues to fall!


    Shem's Garchomp restored a little HP using its Leftovers!


    Harsha Is Tubby sent out Latias!


    Pointed stones dug into Latias!





    Start of turn 17


    Latias used Dragon Pulse!


    It's super effective!


    Shem's Garchomp lost 54% of its health!


    Shem's Garchomp fainted!





    Harsha Is Tubby won the battle!


    Shem: ....

  10. dice

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    Bump because harsha spent a lot of time and this and I want people to ladder
  11. EspeonX

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    All right, i'll give the shizz a spin. I'll edit my post later when I'm done.
  12. ala

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    Forum Name: ala
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    I may have to do this on PO cause smogon has been down for me the last couple of days :(
  13. Living Things

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  14. dragonuser

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  15. Sewa

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    Someone took my name so i had to change IGN
  16. dice

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    just saying that our thundurus weakness is annoying me 9.9
  17. Jukain

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    my name is natgeo
    i am using the alt arlandria
    i have not started laddering
  19. ala

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    K so from what I've gathered so far, this team is fairly effective but I hate the fact that it is relatively slow. Fastest mon is Meoletta in the fighting forme at 372 speed which doesn't even outspeed +1 Dragonite with max speed neutral nature and that is a major problem, considering he can set up on Keldeo and Politoed locked in rather easily. Ferrothorn with Thunderwave could fix this or even using something with priority (Dragonite itself, Breloom, Mamoswine lol). Having one fighting resist really sucks too. Btw I'm playing on PO server cause I can't login to SU so I haven't been able to face Chand, Garchomp and other threats. I also changed Keldeo and Politoed's Hydro Pump to Surf, because I fucking hate that move.
  20. drakon136

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    What could possibly go wrong?

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    Since I passed 1300 (SO GOOD RIGHT???) I figured I'd post my changes to the team that have helped me.

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    Politoed (M) @ Choice Scarf
    Trait: Drizzle
    EVs: 252 SAtk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
    Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
    - Surf
    - Ice Beam
    - Hidden Power [Grass]
    - Perish Song

    No changes, though I have considered using Timid a couple of times.

    Meloetta @ Expert Belt
    Trait: Serene Grace
    EVs: 64 Atk / 252 SAtk / 192 Spd
    Hasty Nature (+Spd, -Def)
    - Relic Song
    - Close Combat
    - Thunder
    - Hidden Power [Ice]

    Sometimes it works, sometimes it fails miserably. I have considered switching this to any poison type (maybe Toxicroak or something) because Toxic Spikes have been a big issue.

    Dragonite (F) @ Choice Band
    Trait: Multiscale
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
    Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - Outrage
    - ExtremeSpeed
    - Aqua Tail
    - Earthquake

    Changed Terrak to this because having 3 fighting pokemon (Meloetta is counted as one) is overkill. Also needed something to tank Sun teams and who better than Dragonite? The team was dreadfully slow too (Meloetta the fastest at 372) so ExtremeSpeed really helps there.

    Keldeo @ Leftovers
    Trait: Justified
    EVs: 252 SAtk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
    Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
    - Substitute
    - Calm Mind
    - Surf
    - Secret Sword

    Kept this set, I really like it, Sub is just a beast in this tier.

    Latias (F) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Levitate
    EVs: 92 HP / 164 SAtk / 252 Spd
    Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
    - Calm Mind
    - Psyshock
    - Dragon Pulse
    - Substitute

    Since Sub is so beastly I'm using it here too. Weird set yeah but after losing to a bunch of random Toxics/Burns I decided to use it. So far so good as long as Tar is dead.

    Ferrothorn (M) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Iron Barbs
    EVs: 252 HP / 88 Def / 168 SDef
    Relaxed Nature (+Def, -Spd)
    - Gyro Ball
    - Stealth Rock
    - Leech Seed
    - Power Whip

    Changed Shed Shell to Leftovers because I'm playing on the PO server and Chand is banned there heh. Also Ferro can't tank at all without Lefties :(


    So those are my changes. Maybe they can help you guys out too!
  22. shrang

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    Okay, two games in and I'm seeing quite a major weakness - Serperior. It outspeeds pretty much everything on the team and just Leaf Storms most things to oblivion. Politoed can't revenge kill it unless it's weakened, and Latias can't stand up to +2 Leaf Storm spamming snakes. It may be of use to get ourselves like a Genesect or something. Also, Forretress really annoys this team. With Ferrothorn there, it can easily just switch in, set up hazards, Rapid Spin stuff away and just be annoying. This team is quite entry hazard weak.
  23. Harsha

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    Hey guys. Sorry about the long wait, but I'm glad you all have been able to ladder with the team and test it out. Right now, shrang is dead on -- we're very Serperior weak. Additionally, we have a hard time with entry hazards; it seems a Rapid Spin user may be very helpful for us. ala's use of Timid is justified, so maybe we should consider Timid Politoed to revenge kill +1 Dragonite. Double Dance Terrakion is great against what was a sand-centralized metagame... But it's become much more balanced, so maybe we should consider another Pokemon in its place. A Choice Scarf user may be justified as well, as we'd definitely love to have a revenge killer. Thundurus is somewhat of a problem, but a Choice Scarf user should definitely be able to patch that. Overall, the team is solid, but we can definitely improve it. Do you guys have suggestions?

    as a reminder, BW2 is already out, so we should finish this CCAT quickly and get ready for a new one due to stuff like Thundurus-T, Tornadus-T, Landorus-T, and of course, Keldeo-R. LGI

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