What's the Mystery Flavor?
Effective Creative, & Underrated Sets
(DO NOT POST BAD GIMMICKS!!!)
(DO NOT POST BAD GIMMICKS!!!)
Standard and common sets are generally effective. After all, that's why they're common and standard. But sometimes a less-common set can be effective. In fact, brand-new sets can be quite effective as well. This thread is for new and creative movesets that can be quite effective, as well as old movesets that have fallen out of favor but have become quite effective in the PU metagame.
What is a new and creative, good moveset?
- It successfully pulls off a role, and is not strictly outclassed by others.
- It takes advantage of metagame trends.
- It has had some success. Post replays / logs to strengthen your case.
Electrode @ Life Orb
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
IVs: 29 HP / 0 Atk / 30 Def
- Volt Switch
- Hidden Power [Ice]
This Electrode is actually incredibly threatening because of the way it breaks down pretty much any answer to Electric-types as your opponent switches them in to take a predicted Volt Switch. For example, Electrode can Toxic Stunfisk on the switch, prevent SR via Taunt, and then do the same thing with HP Ice on the switch next time it comes in; Taunt and Toxic prevents Chinchou from recovering the HP lost from Toxic with Rest; Electrode hits bulky Grass-types like Gogoat on the switch with Toxic and then uses HP Ice on future turns; it prevents Roselia from using Spikes or Synthesis; it prevents Audino from using either Wish or Heal Bell to support its teammates; it stops Clefairy from either setting up SR or with Calm Mind; it breaks down Raichu and Zebstrika by hitting them with a Toxic on the switch, etc.
Building with this set is interesting too. When you remove Chinchou, suddenly Swanna, offensive Pelipper, Regice, Zebstrika, Raichu, Electabuzz, Rotom-S, Floatzel, and Rotom-F all become much more threatening. A Zebstrika that's been taken down to 37% by LO recoil, Electrode's Toxic, and SR damage (surprisingly easy to do) suddenly loses its ability to check physically oriented LO Floatzel because of Aqua Jet. Whittling down Stunfisk with a combination of Toxic and Hidden Power Ice opens up the way for Pokemon like Pawniard, Mawile, and Monferno to sweep late-game. This basically fits well on either Offense (especially with Golem as your SR user - with Golem + Electrode, you have a Chatot answer, a Volt Switch stop, a Normal resist and two Flying resists, and SR -with the ability to pressure Defog users via BoltBeam coverage- all in 2 slots) or on Balance (especially with Swanna as your Defogger).
What is an underrated, good moveset?
- It is an existing set that for whatever reason isn't common.
- Its use is meant to prey on specific facets of the metagame.
- It might be able to surprise and demolish Pokemon that normally counter the usual sets, but does not become a gimmick in order to do so.
Vibrava @ Eviolite
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Def / 8 SpD
This isn't exactly a new set, but this was recently made the standard after some discussion I sparked in Discord a few weeks ago. So, you could say this is a PSA to use physically defensive Vibrava rather than its specially defensive counterpart.
If you really think about it, physically defensive Vibrava walls a larger portion of the current meta than the old standard does. While specially defensive Vibrava can address threats like Grumpig, Kadabra, and NP Ninetales more effectively, an Impish nature with maximum investment in Defense will let it check or counter the following: Golem (even at +2, Stone Edge can't 2HKO Vibrava), Rapidash (especially Drill Run Rapidash), Metang, Stunfisk, RP Relicanth, Crustle, Eviolite Adamant Monferno (maximum Defense Vibrava lives a +2 CC from Adamant Eviolite variants), and Camerupt. It also checks Muk lacking Ice Punch (with CB Gunk Shot only dealing 38% maximum), as well as Arbok before either of these Poison-types have setup with Curse or Coil, respectively.
If you post a bad gimmick, your post will be deleted and infracted.What are some things that constitute a bad gimmick?
- Using a Pokemon that has no business being used in PU, for the sake of using it in PU.
- Movesets that are inferior and ineffective compared to existing movesets, or use an obscure move for the sake of hitting an even more obscure check or counter.
- Movesets that are utterly impractical or are horribly outclassed by another Pokemon. Pokemon such as Beautifly may seem cool, but there is no reason to use it over Lilligant or Butterfree.