Electivire [GP 2/2]

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  1. Jubilee

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    [Overview]

    <p>Electivire has always been shunned in OU because of his below average Base Power attacks compared to other Pokemon in the OU tier. However, this generation, Electivire returns in the UU tier, where his base 123 Attack and base 95 Special Attack are above average compared to most. Electivire was also given a gift in Wild Charge this generation, a 90 Base Power, Electric, physical attack. Combine this with Electivire's excellent movepool, which is capable of hitting multiple Pokemon super effectively, and Electivire becomes a force to be reckoned with.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Mixed Attacker
    move 1: Wild Charge
    move 2: Hidden Power Grass
    move 3: Ice Punch
    move 4: Cross Chop / Earthquake
    item: Life Orb
    nature: Naive
    evs: 252 Atk / 80 SpA / 176 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>This set utilizes the awesome super effective coverage of Electivire's incredible movepool to make him a potent wallbreaker. With this set, Electivire gives bulky offense teams and stall teams trouble, and is capable of 2HKOing many common walls seen on these types of teams. Wild Charge is Electivire's STAB move of choice, thanks to his higher Attack stat. Hidden Power Grass hits Ground-types such as Rhyperior and Donphan, who are immune to Wild Charge, and 2HKOes them. Ice Punch hits Grass-types such as Celebi, Shaymin, and especially Roserade, who has a poor Defense stat. Cross Chop allows Electivire to 2HKO Bold Eviolite Chansey with Life Orb. However, Earthquake hits Nidoking, Nidoqueen, Registeel, and Arcanine super effectively; OHKOing Nidoking, possibly OHKOing Arcanine with Stealth Rock support, and 2HKOing Nidoqueen and Registeel.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>The EVs of this set allows Electivire to outspeed base 85 Speed Pokemon such as Nidoking. It is not worth investing fully into Speed because there are few other base 95 Speed Pokemon in the tier, and those that are commonly used don't usually invest fully in Speed, either. 252 Attack EVs are used to maximize Electivire's Attack, while the rest is put in Special Attack for Hidden Power Grass to hit as hard as possible. A Naive nature ensures that Electivire's offenses are not dampened. Because Life Orb and Wild Charge recoil will bring Electivire down quickly, Expert Belt is a viable alternative. Also, with Expert Belt, Electivire can bluff a Choice set. However, there is a noticeable drop in power without Life Orb.</p>

    <p>Electivire fits nicely on practically any team, since most will appreciate his superb type coverage and strong offenses. Electivire is also immune to and gains a Speed boost from Electric-type attacks because of his ability, Motor Drive. Therefore, Water- and Flying-type Pokemon such as Milotic, Slowbro, and Aerodactyl make great partners, as do fast sweepers who fear Thunder Wave. In addition, Electivire makes an excellent recipient of Shell Smash, again thanks to his excellent type coverage and mixed attacking stats. With a Shell Smash, Electivire becomes incredibly hard to wall. Electivire is also immune to Thunder Wave thanks to his ability; the Speed drop of which would otherwise stop his sweep. Gorebyss, in particular, makes a great Shell Smash passer for Electivire because its Water typing attracts Electric-type attacks that Electivire benefits from.</p>

    [Other Options]

    <p>Because of Electivire's excellent attacking stats, it can use a Choice Band or a Choice Specs set effectively. A Choice Band set of 252 Attack / 4 Def / 252 Speed, a Jolly nature, and a moveset of Wild Charge, Ice Punch, Cross Chop, and Eathquake is the most viable: Wild Charge backed up by a Choice Band deals massive damage, while the rest of the moves are for coverage. However, a set leaving him locked into a move, especially a set with 3 moves that have immunities, can be dangerous. Alternatively, Electivire can boost his attack with Meditate. The same EV spread as the Choice Band set and a moveset of Meditate, Wild Charge, Ice Punch, and Earthquake is best. Either Life Orb or Expert Belt can be used.</p>

    <p>A Choice Specs set of 252 Special Attack / 4 Def / 252 Speed, a Timid Nature, and a moveset of Volt Switch, Flamethrower, Hidden Power Grass, and Thunderbolt can also be used. Volt Switch allows Electivire to scout and keep up the team's momentum, and since the power drop compared to Thunderbolt is very noticeable, both are used. Hidden Power Grass hits bulky Ground-types such as Rhyperior and Donphan, while Flamethrower allows Electivire to hit Grass-types such as Roserade and Celebi for super effective damage.</p>

    [Checks and Counters]

    <p>There are few Pokemon that can come in on Electivire without being threatened by a super effective attack because of Electivire's excellent type coverage. Dusclops and Cofagrigus, however, are not threatened by Electivire due to their high Defense stats and ability to burn him with Will-O-Wisp. Rotom-H resists Wild Charge, Ice Punch, Hidden Power Grass, and is immune to Earthquake thanks to Levitate. Rotom-H's above average Defense stat will allow it to take these hits exceptionally well, and it can threaten Electivire with a STAB Overheat or Will-O-Wisp.</p>

    [Dream World]

    <p>Electivire gets the ability Vital Spirit from the Dream World. This grants him an immunity to the foe's sleep-inducing moves. However, Motor Drive should be used since its immunity to Electric-type attacks is far more useful to Electivire than an immunity to sleep inducing moves. In addition, Electivire should not be switching in to common Sleep Powder users such as Roserade or Tangrowth, since Roserade can outspeed and threaten with a STAB Leaf Storm and Electivire has no chance of defeating Tangrowth with his enormous Defense. However, with Motor Boost, Electivire can switch into Electric-types such as Jolteon with little threat and gain a Speed boost when hit with an Electric-type attack, making a sweep potentionally easier.</p>

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    Damage calculations (open)

    Calculations:
    Naive 252 Attack Life Orb Wild Charge against Bold 252 HP / 252 Def Slowbro: 62.9% - 74.6%

    Naive 80 Special Attack Life Orb Thunderbolt against Bold 252 HP Slowbro: 85.3% - 100.5%

    Naive 252 Attack Life Orb Wild Charge against Bold 252 HP / 252 Def Suicune: 59.9% - 71.3%

    Naive 80 Special Attack Life Orb Thunderbolt against Bold 252 HP Suicune: 60.9% - 71.8%

    Naive 252 Attack Life Orb Wild Charge against Bold 252 HP / 248 Def Milotic: 78.2% - 92.9%

    Naive 80 Special Attack Life Orb Thunderbolt agaisnt Bold 252 HP / 252 Def Milotic: 58.4% - 69%

    Naive 80 Special Attack Life Orb Hidden Power Grass against Modest 252 HP / 56 SpD Gastrodon: 70.4% - 83.6%

    Naive 252 Attack Life Orb Ice Punch against Impish 252 HP / 252 Def EvioliteGligar: 57.5% - 68.3%

    Naive 252 Attack Life Orb Ice Punch against Calm 252 HP / 120 Def Roserade: 84.6% - 100%

    Naive 252 Attack Life Orb Cross Chop against Careful 252 HP / 4 Def Registeel: 52.7% - 62.6%

    Naive 252 Attack Life Orb Cross Chop against Bold 252 Def Eviolite Chansey: 56.5% - 66.5%

    Naive 252 Attack Life Orb Earthquake against Nidoking: 112.2% - 132%

    Naive 252 Attack Life Orb Earthquake against Bold 252 HP / 252 Def Nidoqueen: 55.7% - 66.1%

    Electivire is still underwhelming... But at least he can 2HKO pretty much every important wall.

    The random Thunderbolt calcs are there because I was going to slash Thunderbolt on this set, but after seeing it only does more to Slowbro (still doesn't OHKO him) and since Wild Charge 2HKOes him as well, I thought not to slash it at all...
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    lol...

    Meant Registeel and Arcanine there... >_<

    Thanks for catching that.
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    Mention how it's a fucking brilliant smashpass recipient?
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    Mentioned.
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    Mention Air Balloon somewhere though its power is significantly lower w/o Life Orb
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    Looks good to me

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    I'm inclined to agree that choice sets don't really deserve actual sets. Thus, faking choice items is less effective, and I agree with keeping expert belt in AC. Vire really NEEDs the Life Orb and is so frail that neutral attacks would destroy it so I'm not really keen on balloon. It could get an OO mention and does give Electivire some more switch in opportunities; but honestly, how many foes that use Earthquake can balloon electivire take down? I think the OP's got a lot of things right.

    edit2: When talking about it as a pass-recipitent, mention that its electric immunity (blocking t-wave and electric attacks aimed at gorebyss) is a big plus.
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    Yeah, without Life Orb (or Expert Belt really) 2HKOs turn into 3HKOs. He needs all the power he can get.
    Will mention how Gorebyss is a good partner, thanks. :)
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    Okay this is written. :)
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    [Overview]

    <p>Electivire has always been shunned in OU because of his below average attacking stats compared to other Pokemon in the OU tier. However, this generation, Electivire returns thrives in the UU tier where his attacking stats (base 123 Attack and a base 95 Special Attack) are above average compared to most. Combine this with Electivire's excellent movepool capable of hitting many Pokemon for super effective damage super effective coverage and Electivire becomes a force to be reckoned with.</p>​

    [Set]
    name: Mixed Attacker
    move 1: Wild Charge
    move 2: Hidden Power Grass
    move 3: Ice Punch
    move 4: Cross Chop / Earthquake
    item: Life Orb
    nature: Naive
    evs: 252 Atk / 80 SpA / 176 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>This set utilizes Electivire's ability excellent coverage to hit multiple Pokemon for super effective damage and great mixed offenses thanks to his incredible movepool . With this set, Electivire to give gives bulky offense teams and some stall teams trouble because of his coverage and great mixed attacking stats.Electivire is capable of 2HKOing many common walls seen on these types of teams. Wild Charge is Electivire's main choice of STAB thanks to his higher Attack stat. Hidden Power Grass hits Ground-types like Rhyperior and Donphan that are immune to Wild Charge and 2HKOes them for super effective damage (i'm pretty sure it'll ohko some ground types, like gastrodon or defensive quagsire). Ice Punch hits Grass-types like Celebi, Shaymin, and especially Roserade who has a poor Defense stat. Cross Chop allows you Electivire to 2HKO Bold Eviolite standard Chansey, with Life Orb while Earthquake hits most Fire-type Pokemon Nidoking, Nidoqueen, Registeel, and Arcanine super effectively for super effective damage. (Ice Punch was hitting Nidoking and Nidoqueen rather hard and Cross Chop hits Registeel. I simplified it to Fire-type Pokemon as those were the biggest group and didn't include Pokemon already hit by Ice Punch/Cross Chop)Earthquake OHKOs Nidoking, possibly OHKOs Arcanine with Stealth Rock support, and 2HKOs Nidoqueen and Registeel.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>The EVs of this set allows Electivire to outspeed base 85 Speed Pokemon such as Nidoking. It is not worth investing fully into Speed because there are few other base 95 Speed Pokemon in the tier and those that are commonly used don't usually invest fully in Speed either. 252 Attack EVs are dumped into Attack used to give maximize Electivire's maximum attacking power Attack, while and the rest is put in Special Attack for Hidden Power. <== shouldn't the EV explanation be in Set Comments? Because Life Orb and Wild Charge recoil will bring Electivire down quickly, so Expert Belt can be used instead. With Expert Belt, Electivire can possibly also bluff a Choice set as well. However, there is a noticeable drop in power when without Life Orb isn't used. Electivire fits nicely on practically any team, since most teams will appreciate his superb type coverage and strong offenses. Electivire is also immune to and gains a Speed boost from Electric-type attacks because of its ability Motor Drive. Finally, Electivire makes an excellent recipient of Shell Smash, again thanks to his excellent type coverage and mixed attacking stats. At +2 in both attacking stats With a Shell Smash, Electivire becomes incredibly hard to wall. Electivire is also immune to being paralyzed from Thunder Wave thanks to his ability Motor Drive which would othersie potentionally stop his sweep. Gorebyss especially makes a great Shell Smash passer to for Electivire because its Water- <==no hyphen typing attracts the Electric-type attacks, which, that Electivire is immune to and gains a Speed boost from.</p>

    [Other Options]

    <p>Because of Electivire's excellent attacking stats Electivire can use a Choice Band and Choice Specs sets <==s effectively. A Choice Band set of 252 Attack / 4 Def / 252 Speed, a Jolly nature, and a moveset of Wild Charge, Ice Punch, Cross Chop, and Eathquake can be used. Wild Charge backed up by a Choice Band can deal deals massive damage while the rest of the moves are for coverage. However, a set leaving him locked into a move especially a set with 3 moves that have immunities can be dangerous. A Choice Specs set of 252 Special Attack / 4 Def / 252 Speed, a Timid Nature, and a moveset of Volt Switch, Flamethrower, Hidden Power Grass, and Thunderbolt can also be used. Volt Switch allows Electivire to scout and keep up the team's momentum, while Thunderbolt is reliable STAB., but the power drop compared to Thunderbolt is very noticeable, that's why both are used. Hidden Power Grass hits bulky Ground-types such as Rhyperior and Donphan while Flamethrower allows you it to hit Grass-types like Roserade and Celebi giving Electivire good coverage for super effective damage. <==completely outclassed by Manectric. I would mention that or remove the set. >.<. Electivire is also capable of boosting his Attack through the use of with Meditate. Although it only boosts his Attack by 1, it will still allow him to deal a lot of damage. Using the The same EV spread as the Choice Band set and a moveset of Meditate, Wild Charge, Ice Punch, and Earthquake is best. Either Life Orb or Expert Belt can be used.</p>

    [Checks and Counters]

    <p>There are few Pokemon that can come in on Electivire without being threatened by a super effective attack because of Electivire's excellent type coverage. Dusclops and Cofagrigus can come in on Electivire and burn him with Will-O-Wisp. Their due to their high Defense stats. Rotom-H is hit not very effectively by resists Wild Charge, Ice Punch, Hidden Power Grass, and is immune to Earthquake thanks to Levitate. Rotom-H's above average Defense stat will allow him to take these hits exceptionally well too. While Rotom-H can't hit Electivire with a STAB Electric-type attack, Rotom can hit Electivire and threatens Electivire with Overheat or burn Electivire with or Will-O-Wisp.</p>

    [Dream World]

    <p>Electivire gets the ability Vital Spirit from the Dream World. It This grants him an immunity to the foe's sleep inducing moves. <==period however, However, Motor Drive is better since it grants him an Electric-type immunity and a Speed boost if when hit with an Electric-type attack.</p>



    tl; dr: Work on combining your sentences and removing redundancy. Great job!
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    Thanks for the check and edited in some of your changes.
    There was a few I didn't agree too, though. Especially these two:

    If you look in the calculations I did you'll see that HP Grass does 70.4% - 83.6% to standard Gastrodon and does 97.5% - 115.7% to 252/252 HP/Def Quagsire while it does 72.1% - 85.3% to Specially Defensive Quagsire (although being less common than defensive Quagsire.

    Ice Punch does hit Nidoking and Queen rather hard, but it isn't enough. It turns a 2HKO on Nidoqueen into a 3HKO while turning a OHKO on Nidoking into a possible OHKO with SR (83.2% - 98.3%). Taking out imporant imformation like that isn't necessary...
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    I only changed those first sentences because I didn't see the calc section until after the check.

    I only did that second one because it implied that the Nidos and Registeel weren't hit super effective by your other moves.

    I'm looking through and there are a lot of things you didn't include. Could you explain some of the other things you didn't want to include?
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    Okay Jubs, I'm checking this now.

    Try to remain consistent between pronouns 'it' and 'he'. The former is preferred. Otherwise...

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    Changes made. Thanks, Nixhex. :)
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    How about Pelliper as a good partner? Considering Pelliper is Water/Flying, as well as has Roost to remove a flying weakness to stone edge, it should draw Electric attack like crazy, which in turn gives Electivire a free speed boost
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    Pelipper is a terrible Pokemon.
    Using it just to give Electivire a possible boost is stupid.
    Just because it's Water/Flying doesn't mean it draws in more Electric attacks than a plain old Water-type would...
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    [Overview]

    <p>Electivire has always been shunned in OU because of his below average attacking stats compared to other Pokemon in the OU tier. However, this generation, Electivire makes a triumphant debut returns in the UU tier,[comma] where his base 123 Attack and base 95 Special Attack are above average compared to most. Combine this with Electivire's excellent movepool, which is capable of hitting multiple Pokemon super effectively,[comma] and Electivire becomes a force to be reckoned with.</p>

    [Set]
    name: Mixed Attacker
    move 1: Wild Charge
    move 2: Hidden Power Grass
    move 3: Ice Punch
    move 4: Cross Chop / Earthquake
    item: Life Orb
    nature: Naive
    evs: 252 Atk / 80 SpA / 176 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>This set utilizes Electivire's ability to hit multiple Pokemon for super effective damage thanks to his incredible movepool. With this set, Electivire gives bulky offense teams and stall teams trouble, and is capable of 2HKOing many common walls seen on these types of teams. Wild Charge is Electivire's STAB move of choice, main choice of STAB thanks to his higher Attack stat. Hidden Power Grass hits Ground-types such as Rhyperior and Donphan,[comma] who are immune to Wild Charge,[comma] and 2HKOes them. Ice Punch hits Grass-types such as Celebi, Shaymin, and especially Roserade, who has a poor Defense stat. Cross Chop allows Electivire to 2HKO Bold Eviolite standard Chansey with Life Orb. However, Earthquake hits Nidoking, Nidoqueen, Registeel, and Arcanine super effectively, OHKOing Nidoking, possibly OHKOing Arcanine with Stealth Rock support, and 2HKOing Nidoqueen and Registeel.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>The EVs of this set allows Electivire to outspeed base 85 Speed Pokemon such as Nidoking. It is not worth investing fully into Speed because there are few other base 95 Speed Pokemon in the tier, and those that are commonly used the common ones don't usually invest fully in Speed, either. 252 Attack EVs are used to maximize Electivire's Attack, while the rest is put in Special Attack for Hidden Power Grass to hit as hard as possible. A Naive nature ensures that Electivire's offenses are not dampened. Because Life Orb and Wild Charge recoil will bring Electivire down quickly, Expert Belt is a viable alternative. can be used instead. Also, with Expert Belt, Electivire can possibly bluff a Choice set. However, there is a noticeable drop in power without when Life Orb isn't used.</p>

    <p>Electivire fits nicely on practically any team, since most teams will appreciate his superb type coverage and strong offenses. Electivire is also immune to and gains a Speed boost from Electric-type attacks because of its his ability, Motor Drive. Therefore, Water- and Flying-type Pokemon such as Milotic, Slowbro, and Aerodactyl make great partners, as do fast sweepers who fear Thunder Wave. Finally, In addition, Electivire makes an excellent recipient of Shell Smash, again thanks to his excellent type coverage and mixed attacking stats. With a Shell Smash, Electivire becomes incredibly hard to wall. Electivire is also immune to being paralyzed from Thunder Wave thanks to his ability; the speed drop would otherwise stop his sweep. Motor Drive, which would otherwise potentially stop his sweep. Gorebyss, in particular, makes a great Shell Smash passer for Electivire because its Water typing attracts Electric-type attacks that Electivire benefits from. is immune to and gains a Speed boost from.</p>

    [Other Options]

    <p>Because of Electivire's excellent attacking stats, it he can use a Choice Band or and a Choice Specs set effectively. A Choice Band set of 252 Attack / 4 Def / 252 Speed, a Jolly nature, and a moveset of Wild Charge, Ice Punch, Cross Chop, and Eathquake is the most viable: can be used. Wild Charge backed up by a Choice Band deals massive damage, while the rest of the moves are for coverage. However, a set leaving him locked into a move -especially a set with 3 moves that have immunities-[put those dashes] can be dangerous. Alternatively, Electivire can boost his attack with Meditate. The same EV spread as the Choice Band set and a moveset of Meditate, Wild Charge, Ice Punch, and Earthquake is best. Either Life Orb or Expert Belt can be used.</p>

    <p>A Choice Specs set of 252 Special Attack / 4 Def / 252 Speed, a Timid Nature, and a moveset of Volt Switch, Flamethrower, Hidden Power Grass, and Thunderbolt can also be used. Volt Switch allows Electivire to scout and keep up the team's momentum, and since but the power drop compared to Thunderbolt is very noticeable, so both are used. Hidden Power Grass hits bulky Ground-types such as Rhyperior and Donphan, while Flamethrower allows Electivire to hit Grass-types such as Roserade and Celebi for super effective damage. Electivire is also capable of boosting its Attack with Meditate. The same EV spread as the Choice Band set and a moveset of Meditate, Wild Charge, Ice Punch, and Earthquake is best. Either Life Orb or Expert Belt can be used.</p> move this

    [Checks and Counters]

    <p>There are few Pokemon that can come in on Electivire without being threatened by a super effective attack because of Electivire's excellent type coverage. Dusclops and Cofagrigus, however, can come in on are not threatened by Electivire due to their high Defense stats and can burn him with Will-O-Wisp due to their high Defense stats. Rotom-H resists Wild Charge, Ice Punch, Hidden Power Grass, and is immune to Earthquake thanks to Levitate. Rotom-H's above average Defense stat will allow him it to take these hits exceptionally well,[comma] and it can threaten Electivire with a STAB Overheat or burn it with Will-O-Wisp.</p>

    [Dream World]

    <p>Electivire gets the ability Vital Spirit from the Dream World. This grants him an immunity to the foe's sleep inducing moves. However, Motor Drive is better since it grants him an Electric-type immunity and a Speed boost when hit with an Electric-type attack.</p>
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    Changes made. Thanks, V0x.
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    [Overview]

    <p>Electivire has always been shunned in OU because of his below average attacking stats compared to other Pokemon in the OU tier. However, this generation, Electivire returns in the UU tier, where his base 123 Attack and base 95 Special Attack are above average compared to most. Combine this with Electivire's excellent movepool, which is(space)capable of hitting multiple Pokemon super effectively and Electivire becomes a force to be reckoned with.</p>

    [Set]
    name: Mixed Attacker
    move 1: Wild Charge
    move 2: Hidden Power Grass
    move 3: Ice Punch
    move 4: Cross Chop / Earthquake
    item: Life Orb
    nature: Naive
    evs: 252 Atk / 80 SpA / 176 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>This set utilizes the awesome super effective coverage of Electivire's ability to hit multiple Pokemon for super effective damage thanks to his incredible movepool to make him a potent wallbreaker. With this set, Electivire gives bulky offense teams and stall teams trouble, and is capable of 2HKOing many common walls seen on these types of teams. Wild Charge is Electivire's STAB move of choice, thanks to his higher Attack stat. Hidden Power Grass hits Ground-types such as Rhyperior and Donphan, who are immune to Wild Charge, and 2HKOes them. Ice Punch hits Grass-types such as Celebi, Shaymin, and especially Roserade, who has a poor Defense stat. Cross Chop allows Electivire to 2HKO Bold Eviolite Chansey with Life Orb. However, Earthquake hits Nidoking, Nidoqueen, Registeel, and Arcanine super effectively; (semi-colon) OHKOing Nidoking, possibly OHKOing Arcanine with Stealth Rock support, and 2HKOing Nidoqueen and Registeel.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>The EVs of this set allows Electivire to outspeed base 85 Speed Pokemon such as Nidoking. It is not worth investing fully into Speed because there are few other base 95 Speed Pokemon in the tier, and those that are commonly used don't usually invest fully in Speed, either. 252 Attack EVs are used to maximize Electivire's Attack, while the rest is put in Special Attack for Hidden Power Grass to hit as hard as possible. A Naive nature ensures that Electivire's offenses are not dampened. Because Life Orb and Wild Charge recoil will bring Electivire down quickly, Expert Belt is a viable alternative. Also, with Expert Belt, Electivire can bluff a Choice set. However, there is a noticeable drop in power without Life Orb</p>

    <p>Electivire fits nicely on practically any team, since most will appreciate his superb type coverage and strong offenses. Electivire is also immune to and gains a Speed boost from Electric-type attacks because of its ability, Motor Drive. Therefore, Water- and Flying-type Pokemon such as Milotic, Slowbro, and Aerodactyl make great partners, as do fast sweepers who fear Thunder Wave. In addition, Electivire makes an excellent recipient of Shell Smash, again thanks to his excellent type coverage and mixed attacking stats. With a Shell Smash, Electivire becomes incredibly hard to wall. Electivire is also immune to Thunder Wave thanks to his ability; the Speed drop of which would otherwise stop his sweep. Gorebyss, in particular, makes a great Shell Smash passer for Electivire because its Water typing attracts Electric-type attacks that Electivire benefits from.</p>

    [Other Options]

    <p>Because of Electivire's excellent attacking stats, it can use a Choice Band or a Choice Specs set effectively. A Choice Band set of 252 Attack / 4 Def / 252 Speed, a Jolly nature, and a moveset of Wild Charge, Ice Punch, Cross Chop, and Eathquake is the most viable: Wild Charge backed up by a Choice Band deals massive damage, while the rest of the moves are for coverage. However, a set leaving him locked into a move -especially a set with 3 moves that have immunities- can be dangerous. Alternatively, Electivire can boost his attack with Meditate. The same EV spread as the Choice Band set and a moveset of Meditate, Wild Charge, Ice Punch, and Earthquake is best. Either Life Orb or Expert Belt can be used.</p>

    <p>A Choice Specs set of 252 Special Attack / 4 Def / 252 Speed, a Timid Nature, and a moveset of Volt Switch, Flamethrower, Hidden Power Grass, and Thunderbolt can also be used. Volt Switch allows Electivire to scout and keep up the team's momentum, and since the power drop compared to Thunderbolt is very noticeable, both are used. Hidden Power Grass hits bulky Ground-types such as Rhyperior and Donphan, while Flamethrower allows Electivire to hit Grass-types such as Roserade and Celebi for super effective damage.</p>

    [Checks and Counters]

    <p>There are few Pokemon that can come in on Electivire without being threatened by a super effective attack because of Electivire's excellent type coverage. Dusclops and Cofagrigus, however, are not threatened by Electivire due to their high Defense stats and ability to burn him with Will-O-Wisp. Rotom-H resists Wild Charge, Ice Punch, Hidden Power Grass, and is immune to Earthquake thanks to Levitate. Rotom-H's above average Defense stat will allow it to take these hits exceptionally well, and it can threaten Electivire with a STAB Overheat or burn it with Will-O-Wisp.</p>

    [Dream World]

    <p>Electivire gets the ability Vital Spirit from the Dream World. This grants him an immunity to the foe's sleep-inducing moves. However, Motor Drive is better since it grants him an Electric-type immunity and a Speed boost when hit with an Electric-type attack.</p>


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  23. Jubilee

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    Proofread (open)


    Changes made, thanks. :)

    This is done as well. :D
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    No offense, but this comes across as completely useless restatement of information one can find on any Pokemon wiki. Strongly suggest you elaborate.
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    Elaborate what? Vital Spirit? Or Motor Drive? If Vital Spirit, there's nothing else to add about it, it blocks sleep moves that's it, what else is there to say especially if it shouldn't be used? I find it pointless to go in depth of something you're not going to use.

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