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Empoleon (Update)
- Thread starter Zystral
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I can't really do my best work atm so I hope you can advance some of my ideas and content additions that I've given you to make the analysis better. I can't really explain them if you need me to though, so sorry. Gotta move on to my other requests. Still, after three days, this better help this analysis!
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[Overview]
<p>From the outset, Empoleon doesn't look particularly overwhelming - its movepool isn't overflowing in terms of offense, and it doesn't have any stats that bring it to the front of the crowd. However, what it does have is a unique typing granting that grants it an immunity and 11 resistances to some of the most common attacking types, such as Ice, Dragon, Ghost, Rock, Water, (comma) and Dark. In contrast, Empoleon only has weaknesses to three types: Ground, Fighting, and Electric. Its high Special Defense also lends it to the job of a defensive Pokemon, but it can be capable of much more. Wielding both Agility and an already high Special Attack, Empoleon is an extremely deadly late-game sweeper in the late-game, with just enough coverage to destroy entire teams. It While Empoleon isn't may not be used very much since Empoleon is a Pokemon that is covered naturally when a team is built well it requires a well-built team, but this does not detract from the fact that it can be very effective if played correctly.</p>
[SET]
name: SubPetaya
move 1: Agility
move 2: Substitute
move 3: Surf
move 4: Ice Beam / Grass Knot
nature: Modest
item: Petaya Berry
nature: Modest
evs: 12 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpA / 240 Spe
[SET COMMENTS]
<p>This set aims to sweep the opponent late-game with Agility, in conjunction with Petaya Berry's and Torrent's boosts. With 240 Spe EVs and an Agility, Empoleon reaches 432 Speed, outspeeding . This outspeeds +1 Jolly Gyarados and Dragonite, Choice Scarf Togekiss, +2 Adamant +2 Metagross, and positive Choice Scarf Heatran. Empoleon can also OHKO Heatran and 2HKO Metagross with Surf, while being able to OHKO Dragonite and 2HKO Togekiss, (comma) provided Stealth Rock is in play. The premise of the set is simple; late-game, you can switch Empoleon in on any of its many resistances, or after a revenge kill, and use Agility as your opponent switches out to a check. After an Agility, the only things Pokemon outspeeding Empoleon are Choice Scarf Starmie, Gengar, and Azelf. Because of this, you Empoleon can confidently use Substitute to not only whittle down the opposing Pokemon's PP (I really don't think this warrants a mention. It's basically 3 PP of "whittling down".) block status and critical hits, but also get Empoleon into range for Petaya Berry to activate. Once the boost is obtained, Empoleon can begin sweeping. Surf is the mandatory STAB attack, as due to the Petaya Berry boost, Hydro Pump's extra power is not necessary.</p>
<p>The EVs maximize Empoleon's attacking power, while 12 HP EVs are given so that it only takes three Substitutes for its Petaya Berry to activate at 25% as opposed to needing four Substitutes and having the Berry activate at 1%. 240 Speed EVs are all that's needed as more EVs doesn't outspeed anymore notable Pokemon, and since the last 4 will make no difference, they are better off being placed into Defense. Surf is the mandatory STAB attack, and due to the Petaya Berry boost, Hydro Pump's subpar accuracy is not needed.</p>
[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
<p>Ice Beam is the prime choice for providing generally good coverage, most notably against hitting Shaymin, Dragonite, Celebi, and Zapdos, as well as providing generally good coverage. Grass Knot can be used over Ice Beam for taking down Swampert and Suicune, although it's noteworthy that Swampert can Roar you Empoleon out and while Suicune can just set up multiple Calm Minds while you are as Empoleon is Substituting (however it cannot touch you back unless it carries Hidden Power Electric) (Doesn't matter as long as Empoleon's Grass Knot does nothing to +4-6 Suicune. Even at +2, Grass Knot without a boost does 25%ish. Then Surf KOes.). Since Empoleon can only have Ice Beam or Grass Knot, it is wise to use teammates that can eradicate Pokemon problematic to the move you are not running. Choice Scarf Jirachi is able to hit all four for super effective with Ice Punch, though it may be a little weak. Tyranitar packs a much bigger punch with Crunch, Stone Edge, and Fire Punch, but be wary of Grass- and Ground-type attacks when using it. Blissey is the biggest problem for this set, taking as it takes little damage from Empoleon's attacks, even from a boosted Surf, while it and can hit back with either a status move or just (Toxic can't affect it while Substitute blocks Twave... until it's at 25% or lower, then I would just go for the kill with Stoss since it's kinda pointless to Twave at that point.) whittle down Empoleon's HP using Seismic Toss. In order to remove Blissey, using a powerful physical attacker, such as Lucario and Breloom, is recommended. Both Lucario and Breloom have access to Swords Dance to boost their Attack to sky-high levels; individually, Lucario has Close Combat and ExtremeSpeed to vanquish the foe, while Breloom resists two of Empoleon's weaknesses and has Spore to put a foe out of commission.</p>
<p>Empoleon is considerably susceptible to any super effective priority move, namely Mach Punch from Breloom or and Infernape, especially if the user comes in before you Empoleon starts using Substitute. However, Besides that matter, even though Empoleon is immune to sandstorm and Toxic Spikes, but it must still beware of any other residual damage, such as Spikes, Leech Seed, Stealth Rock or and hail (although Empoleon resists the latter two). Additionally, while using Substitute to gain the Petaya boost, Empoleon can be phazed with Roar or Whirlwind, so it is a better idea to leave Empoleon until late-game or ensure the opponent's phazer is down. As all of these factors will plague Empoleon's ability to sweep, it is best to eliminate these users as soon as possible to ensure a clean late-game sweep.</p>
[SET]
name: Agility + 3 Attacks
move 1: Agility
move 2: Surf / Hydro Pump
move 3: Ice Beam
move 4: Grass Knot
nature: Modest
item: Life Orb
nature: Modest
evs: 12 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpA / 240 Spe
[SET COMMENTS]
<p>This set is an alternative to the above Although this set looks quite similar to the above set, and it has its a couple of different advantages and disadvantages. It forgoes the use of Substitute and Petaya Berry to use three attacks, giving it more rounded coverage against different threats. (period) and while However, because it replaces the Petaya Berry with a Life Orb, the damage output is still will be lower. Additionally, it is more vulnerable to attacks basically any move, such as Thunder Wave and Mach Punch, since it no longer has the protective buffer of a provided by Substitute. In fact, being open toattacks combined with the added recoil of Life Orb will reduce Empoleon's longevity. The moveset is fairly self-explanatory; Agility allows Empoleon to boost its Speed to such a degree that it can sweep with its three coverage moves: Surf, Ice Beam, and Grass Knot. This time, however, Hydro Pump is an option over Surf, since the power could be useful to take down threats that Surf couldn't otherwise defeat. The EVs are the same, since the Speed maintains a healthy number before and after Agility, while again, Special Attack is maximized and the rest is put into bulk. As well as this, Empoleon is open to Thunder Wave since it's no longer behind a Substitute, although after an Agility it should be attacking as much as possible anyway, so hopefully the opponent can be KOed before they can retaliate.</p>
[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
<p>This Empoleon will require much more dedicated team support, since it not only lacks Substitute to protect itself from oncoming onslaught, but requires more entry hazard support to score the KOs, since it doesn't have as much power as the SubPetaya set. Spikes support is almost necessary, as is Stealth Rock. Skarmory can provide Spikes support whiling taking on Empoleon's Ground weakness. For Stealth Rock support, Hippowdon is more than up for the task due to its mammoth physical bulk and ability to summon a sandstorm, which increases the amount of residual damage done upon the foe. Toxic Spikes from the likes of Roserade and Tentacruel are also very useful for wearing down a majority of Empoleon's checks and counters, such as Blissey, Vaporeon, and Celebi. Sandstorm can also be helpful provided the opponent isn't immune to it or has a Rock-type. This time, Hydro Pump is an option, since the power is necessary to take down other threats. On top of this, this Empoleon is more likely to be sweeping mid-game as opposed to late-game, so punching holes in the opponent's team can also clear way for other sweepers. For example, if Empoleon can take down Gyarados or Bronzong, Swords Dance Gliscor can sweep more easily. The EVs are the same, since the Speed maintains a healthy number before and after Agility, while again, Special Attack is maximized and the rest is put into bulk.</p>
[SET]
name: Lead
move 1: Stealth Rock
move 2: Hydro Pump / Surf
move 3: Aqua Jet
move 4: Grass Knot / Ice Beam
nature: Modest
item: Focus Sash / Chople Berry
nature: Modest
evs: 156 HP / 252 SpA / 100 Spe
[SET COMMENTS]
<p>Empoleon's typing also and good enough movepool allows it to be a great lead. With access to Stealth Rock and a priority move to top it off, it can deal with many common leads. Faster, frail leads can be taken out by a combination of Hydro Pump + Aqua Jet, whereas slower leads can have Stealth Rock set up on them before being taken out. Hydro Pump is used in order to deal as much damage as possible to the likes of Hippowdon and Metagross, whereas Surf can be used for more reliability, as it will still deal with Infernape and Tyranitar. Grass Knot deals with takes care of Swampert and other Water-types. Ice Beam can be used instead of Grass Knot to take down Dragonite or and Gliscor, although the latter can still be worn down with Hydro Pump.</p>
[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
<p>The Speed EVs given outpace minimum Speed Skarmory and Metagross, although some Metagross are known to invest a little more to overcome this, so you can do the same. Maximum Special Attack lets Empoleon do as much damage as possible, while the remaining EVs are placed into HP. Focus Sash is the item of choice, since Empoleon's has common weaknesses to common Fighting and Ground are common attacking types attacks, so a Focus Sash is needed in order for Empoleon to have a chance of striking back. However, since some Pokemon are inclined to carry Fake Out (such as Infernape), a Chople Berry can be used to soften the blow from their next strike, since Focus Sash then becomes unusable. Alternatively, for opposing Pokemon who that do not KO, such as Heatran and Metagross, Shuca Berry can be used to soften weaken the damage from their attacks.</p>
<p>Depending on the item, Empoleon faces several unfavorable match-ups, such as against Machamp, Roserade, and Infernape. Machamp is able to smack Empoleon hard with DynamicPunch, which also confuses the penguin. Roserade can sleep Empoleon, and then either slam it hard with Leaf Storm or set up Toxic Spikes. Infernape's combination of Fake Out and Close Combat will nearly always KO Empoleon, though Empoleon can remove Infernape's Focus Sash with Aqua Jet. Dragonite is a decent partner as it resists the threats' STAB attacks, and can use Draco Meteor to deal deadly damage to them. However, it must still beware of Machamp's ability to confuse and Ice Punch. Tentacruel is another option to consider since it resists Fighting and Fire, has great special bulk to take on Roserade's Leaf Storm, and can Rapid Spin away entry hazards.</p>
[SET]
name: Defensive
move 1: Surf
move 2: Grass Knot
move 3: Hidden Power Electric / Stealth Rock
move 4: Roar / Ice Beam
nature: Calm
item: Leftovers
nature: Calm
evs: 252 HP / 252 SpD / 4 Spe
[SET COMMENTS]
<p>Empoleon's stats lend it to a more defensive role, backed up by its great typing; while it's defensive movepool isn't the best, it can still support the team With a great defensive typing, decent support movepool, and solid defensive stats, Empoleon can do a fine job at supporting its team. Empoleon may lack the bulk of Suicune and Swampert, but its typing allows it to resist some of the most common attacking types, meaning it has ample opportunities to switch in and KO the opponent or force it out. However, some offensive Pokemon do run mixed sets, and Empoleon will have problems with even un-STABed Earthquakes, so be careful about what it is switched into. Surf is Empoleon's obligatory STAB attack for damaging purposes. Grass Knot is now more recommended. Since Empoleon is no longer sweeping, bulky Water-types like Swampert are going to be more of a threat due to their ability to outstall Empoleon, Roar it away, and set up their own team support. As such, Grass Knot is a must-have for this set. Hidden Power Electric is recommended on the third slot to deal with Water-types such as Gyarados, which takes less damage from Grass Knot. The use of Roar and Stealth Rock allow Empoleon to also aid the team. Roar gives Empoleon a tool to phaze set-up sweepers while scouting the opponent's team. Stealth Rock is a great alternative over Hidden Power Electric to weaken the opponent's team gradually; it also combines well with Roar to rack up even more damage overtime. Lastly, Ice Beam is usable over Roar to strike troublesome Dragon- and Grass-types, such as Dragonite and Shaymin. Empoleon may lack the bulk of Suicune and Swampert, but its typing allows it to resist some of the most common attacking types, such as Ice and Dragon, meaning it has ample opportunities to switch-in and KO the opponent if not force it out. However, some offensive Pokemon do run mixed sets, and Empoleon will have problems with even un-STABed Earthquakes, so be careful about what it is switched into.</p>
[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
<p>The EVs and nature allow for maximum protection from special attacks. All of Empoleon's potential bulk is better off here on the special side, since most physical attacks take the form of Ground- and Fighting-type moves, which hit Empoleon for super effective damage anyway. Still, 68 Def EVs, taken from SpD, can be used in order to survive 56 Atk mixed Dragonite's Superpower and Offensive Gyarados's Earthquake. Roar is the primary option for phazing out threats that have set up, or for temporarily removing something that troubles your team. Ice Beam can be used for taking out Dragonite and Flygon, although are known to carry physical attacks, so be wary. Stealth Rock can replace Hidden Power Electric, but the ability to take out special attackers such as Togekiss, opposing Empoleon, and Starmie may benefit teams more, considering Stealth Rock users are in high abundance.</p>
<p>Since this Empoleon looks aims to support more than to sweep, having Pokemon that enjoy the removal can take advantage of the weakening of strong special attackers such as Starmie and Togekiss will allow you to take advantage of the holes in your opponent's team is beneficial. Set-up attackers like Metagross or and Infernape can be effective, since they will no longer have a Pokemon that can resist their STAB attacks, which means that they can sweep easier and threaten a KO in return. Alternatively, a Dragon-type like Dragonite or Flygon of your own can be beneficial helpful since they it can attack early on and do some damage to the Suicune or and Swampert early on, which are likely to be lured in for Empoleon to deal with so that the Dragon can clean up the team easier they will lure in, which Empoleon can deal with before the Dragon-type cleans up the team.</p>
[SET]
name: Choice Specs
move 1: Hydro Pump / Surf
move 2: Ice Beam
move 3: Grass Knot
move 4: Sleep Talk / Hidden Power Electric
nature: Modest
item: Leftovers
nature: Modest
evs: 252 HP / 252 SpA / 4 Spe
[SET COMMENTS]
<p>Empoleon can choose to bypass the turns of set-up and start hitting hard straight away thanks to Choice Specs. Its high Special Attack, in tandem with Choice Specs, means that it will be doing noticeable huge damage to a lot majority of your opponent's team. However, due to Choice Specs' side-effect, Empoleon will be switching a lot, and while it resists Stealth Rock, it will still be taking damage from Spikes and as it switches in, as well as also taking Spikes damage. Considering Empoleon isn't a lightning bruiser, it will be taking a hit before it attacks more often than not. However, its reasonable bulk means that it can survive an attack and strike back at the opponent.</p>
<p>Hydro Pump is the main option to dish out as much pain as possible on the opponent. Surf is a fine alternative for reliability. Ice Beam covers Grass- and Dragon-types that resist Water. Grass Knot destroys Water-types that resist the rest of the set. The most notable thing niche about the set is Sleep Talk. Because of Empoleon's great resistances and decent bulk, it can work as an effective sleep absorber for the team. Sleep Talk allows it to still attack while not being locked into one single attacking move. This is also reflected in the EV spread - little Speed is actually invested, while as much HP as possible means Empoleon can stay alive as long as possible. Hidden Power Electric is an alternative over Sleep Talk for the OHKO on Gyarados and 2HKO on Vaporeon (with Stealth Rock), but does little outside of that.</p>
[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
<p>Despite the defensive investment, Empoleon doesn't actually carry Rest or any form of healing, so Wish support would will be greatly appreciated. Since this set uses Choice Specs often, Blissey and Snorlax will be switching in easily, especially if Empoleon is using an attacking move instead of Sleep Talk. Jirachi can provide Wish support and take out Blissey with continuous Iron Heads, but shares a Ground-type weakness. Jolteon heals itself when switching into Empoleon's Electric-type weakness, although it also stopped by Blissey. However, it can use Charge Beam and Baton Pass to power up Empoleon even more. In fact, +1 Hydro Pump has a small chance to 2HKO Blissey with Stealth Rock. For a more reliable way of eliminating Blissey and Snorlax, Tyranitar can be considered to either smack them with Superpower or hit them on their switch out with Pursuit. Aside from that, a faster EV spread of 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe with a Timid nature can be used to Speed tie with Steel Killer Magnezone and SubPunch Breloom. However, this EV spread loses out on a lot of bulk just for these small scenarios.</p>
<p>Hydro Pump is preferred for its power, although Surf can also be used for its accuracy. Sleep Talk can also be replaced for Hidden Power Electric to combat the likes of Suicune and Vaporeon if sleep doesn't concern you. Paralysis support is also very handy for this set, since it can allow Empoleon to stay at high health and not take hits from opposing Pokemon. Despite the maximum HP investment, Empoleon's Defense is still sub-par, so having something Pokemon such as Celebi or and Rotom-A will be extremely helpful when something with a Ground- or Fighting-type move comes into play. Celebi and Rotom-A can also spread around Thunder Wave to make up for Empoleon's low Speed.</p>
[Team Options]
<p>Empoleon needs little in the way of team options due to its resistances and natural defenses. However, if playing an offensive set, especially the Agility + 3 Attacks, having Spikes and Stealth Rock down can be crucial to help Empoleon score OHKOs or 2HKOs on the opponent. Entry hazards are also important for the other offensive sets, but less so due to their higher power thanks to Petaya Berry / Choice Specs. However, any offensive set will be stopped cold by Blissey or any specially defensive wall. Dugtrio can trap and KO Blissey with its STAB Earthquake, and is also immune to Electric-type moves which are one of Empoleon's weaknesses. Infernape can play the role of a mixed wallbreaker, using special attacks to lure Blissey in before hitting it with Close Combat. Empoleon also resists the Water-, Psychic-, and Flying-type moves that Infernape is weak to, despite sharing a Ground weakness. Paralysis support can also be helpful for sets lacking Agility, since Empoleon isn't very fast, and if there is no investment in HP or Special Defense, Empoleon may be wounded fatally before it can attack.</p>
<p>Defensively, Wish support is paramount, since Empoleon does not have its own method of recovery outside of Rest. While defensive Empoleon invests in HP and has more longevity, it will find itself unable to deal with hard-hitters, especially Infernape, Metagross, or and Gyarados, since it will still take hefty damage, if not get OHKOed by these attackers, yet it has lost the ability to strike back. However, Empoleon can still be an effective sponge for specially-based attacks, so having a teammate that can sweep easily with a lack of Pokemon such as Starmie or and Suicune will be beneficial. Metagross shares its Ground-type weakness with Empoleon, but appreciates having Suicune taken out. Gliscor is also an option, since it cannot deal with bulky Water-types, so Empoleon can clear a sweep for it easily. Gliscor can also help Empoleon out by laying down Stealth Rock or Taunting defensive Pokemon so that Empoleon has an easier time taking them down.</p>
[Optional Changes]
<p>Empoleon has access to Swords Dance to boost its mediocre Attack Empoleon has a fairly limited movepool, so it doesn't have much other options. With access to Swords Dance to boost its mediocre Attack and a usable physical movepool consisting of Earthquake, Aqua Jet, Waterfall, Drill Peck, Return, and Avalanche, Empoleon can become a neat physical sweeper, but its movepool it lacks power and coverage Speed to score any notable damage sweep properly. Offensively, Empoleon's other options pale in comparison to the listed Surf, Hydro Pump, Grass Knot, Ice Beam, and Hidden Power Electric. Earthquake, Aqua Jet, Waterfall, and Drill Peck can be used alongside Swords Dance, but as said, Swords Dance is poor. Defensively, Yawn, Roar, and Stealth Rock are Empoleon's only for support. Yawn can be used to phaze, but often when it comes to Empoleon, it is much better to remove off removing the threat offensively rather than forcing it out and Roar is generally superior for phazing overall. Flash Cannon is available for a secondary STAB move, though it offers redundant coverage with Empoleon's main moves. Lastly, Knock Off is usable on the Defensive set to remove items, but turns essentially useless when the job is done.</p>
<p>Empoleon's EV spreads are quite solid. The only leeway that can be given is that the HP EVs can be changed if your IV is not 31 for some reason or other. So long as the number is divisible by 4, any necessary EVs can be pulled from SpA. Usually, 240 Speed is all that's needed after an Agility, and if Empoleon isn't running Agility, then little Speed is needed, since the only notable things that are slower than Empoleon are Machamp and Hippowdon, both of whom cannot outspeed Empoleon without concentrated investment. Empoleon's Special Defense is better than its physical Defense, but investing in HP is the most effective since its HP is naturally lower than its Special Defense. However, more EVs can be taken out of HP and SpA if you wish for Empoleon to survive certain attacks, such as Choice Specs Kingdra's Draco Meteor.</p>
(This paragraph isn't really saying much. If you have to say anything about changing EVs for a set, you can do that in its AC.)
[Counters]
<p>Blissey is a natural the best counter to Empoleon due to its high Special Defense since it is only 5HKOed by Surf, thanks to its enormous special bulk, and can cripple the penguin with Thunder Wave or wear it down with Seismic Toss. Empoleon's can only Roar it away, and Blissey can paralyze it or use Seismic Toss to wear it down. (I didn't keep the Roar mention because only one set has it.) Kingdra takes little damage from any move Empoleon can throw at it, but it can't do much back except for Hidden Power Electric. (I think this is a bad example. Taking neutral damage from both Ice Beam and Grass Knot isn't good, and not much Kingdra are Swift Swim sweepers to carry HP Electric anyway, which is just a slash on the rain sweeper set. Life Orb Ice Beam/Grass Knot 2HKOes Kingdra after Stealth Rock, for instance. Additionally, both STABs are resisted.) Empoleon relies on Agility to outspeed and damage the opponent before it can hit back, but so anything Pokemon with a strong and relatively fast Earthquake, such as Gyarados, Flygon, or and Tyranitar, (comma) can KO any unboosted Empoleon easily. As long as they switch in on a revenge kill and Empoleon hasn't used Agility, Jolteon, Rotom-A, and Magnezone will can destroy Empoleon with their STAB Electric-type attacks; (semi-colon) especially as in addition, Magnezone has Magnet Pull to prevent Empoleon from escaping.</p>
(I'm sure you can add in a few more counters. Any variants lacking Ice Beam will have Dragonite, Shaymin, and Celebi walling it. On the opposite side, variants without Grass Knot will always lose to Calm Mind Suicune and Vaporeon... or Water-types without Ground or Rock typing. Hidden Power Electric Vaporeon does relatively well overall as it only takes 60 Base Power from Grass Knot, which is a 3HKO. As such, it can attack and heal with ease without critical hits in tact.)
<p>From the outset, Empoleon doesn't look particularly overwhelming - its movepool isn't overflowing in terms of offense, and it doesn't have any stats that bring it to the front of the crowd. However, what it does have is a unique typing granting that grants it an immunity and 11 resistances to some of the most common attacking types, such as Ice, Dragon, Ghost, Rock, Water, (comma) and Dark. In contrast, Empoleon only has weaknesses to three types: Ground, Fighting, and Electric. Its high Special Defense also lends it to the job of a defensive Pokemon, but it can be capable of much more. Wielding both Agility and an already high Special Attack, Empoleon is an extremely deadly late-game sweeper in the late-game, with just enough coverage to destroy entire teams. It While Empoleon isn't may not be used very much since Empoleon is a Pokemon that is covered naturally when a team is built well it requires a well-built team, but this does not detract from the fact that it can be very effective if played correctly.</p>
[SET]
name: SubPetaya
move 1: Agility
move 2: Substitute
move 3: Surf
move 4: Ice Beam / Grass Knot
nature: Modest
item: Petaya Berry
nature: Modest
evs: 12 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpA / 240 Spe
[SET COMMENTS]
<p>This set aims to sweep the opponent late-game with Agility, in conjunction with Petaya Berry's and Torrent's boosts. With 240 Spe EVs and an Agility, Empoleon reaches 432 Speed, outspeeding . This outspeeds +1 Jolly Gyarados and Dragonite, Choice Scarf Togekiss, +2 Adamant +2 Metagross, and positive Choice Scarf Heatran. Empoleon can also OHKO Heatran and 2HKO Metagross with Surf, while being able to OHKO Dragonite and 2HKO Togekiss, (comma) provided Stealth Rock is in play. The premise of the set is simple; late-game, you can switch Empoleon in on any of its many resistances, or after a revenge kill, and use Agility as your opponent switches out to a check. After an Agility, the only things Pokemon outspeeding Empoleon are Choice Scarf Starmie, Gengar, and Azelf. Because of this, you Empoleon can confidently use Substitute to not only whittle down the opposing Pokemon's PP (I really don't think this warrants a mention. It's basically 3 PP of "whittling down".) block status and critical hits, but also get Empoleon into range for Petaya Berry to activate. Once the boost is obtained, Empoleon can begin sweeping. Surf is the mandatory STAB attack, as due to the Petaya Berry boost, Hydro Pump's extra power is not necessary.</p>
<p>The EVs maximize Empoleon's attacking power, while 12 HP EVs are given so that it only takes three Substitutes for its Petaya Berry to activate at 25% as opposed to needing four Substitutes and having the Berry activate at 1%. 240 Speed EVs are all that's needed as more EVs doesn't outspeed anymore notable Pokemon, and since the last 4 will make no difference, they are better off being placed into Defense. Surf is the mandatory STAB attack, and due to the Petaya Berry boost, Hydro Pump's subpar accuracy is not needed.</p>
[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
<p>Ice Beam is the prime choice for providing generally good coverage, most notably against hitting Shaymin, Dragonite, Celebi, and Zapdos, as well as providing generally good coverage. Grass Knot can be used over Ice Beam for taking down Swampert and Suicune, although it's noteworthy that Swampert can Roar you Empoleon out and while Suicune can just set up multiple Calm Minds while you are as Empoleon is Substituting (however it cannot touch you back unless it carries Hidden Power Electric) (Doesn't matter as long as Empoleon's Grass Knot does nothing to +4-6 Suicune. Even at +2, Grass Knot without a boost does 25%ish. Then Surf KOes.). Since Empoleon can only have Ice Beam or Grass Knot, it is wise to use teammates that can eradicate Pokemon problematic to the move you are not running. Choice Scarf Jirachi is able to hit all four for super effective with Ice Punch, though it may be a little weak. Tyranitar packs a much bigger punch with Crunch, Stone Edge, and Fire Punch, but be wary of Grass- and Ground-type attacks when using it. Blissey is the biggest problem for this set, taking as it takes little damage from Empoleon's attacks, even from a boosted Surf, while it and can hit back with either a status move or just (Toxic can't affect it while Substitute blocks Twave... until it's at 25% or lower, then I would just go for the kill with Stoss since it's kinda pointless to Twave at that point.) whittle down Empoleon's HP using Seismic Toss. In order to remove Blissey, using a powerful physical attacker, such as Lucario and Breloom, is recommended. Both Lucario and Breloom have access to Swords Dance to boost their Attack to sky-high levels; individually, Lucario has Close Combat and ExtremeSpeed to vanquish the foe, while Breloom resists two of Empoleon's weaknesses and has Spore to put a foe out of commission.</p>
<p>Empoleon is considerably susceptible to any super effective priority move, namely Mach Punch from Breloom or and Infernape, especially if the user comes in before you Empoleon starts using Substitute. However, Besides that matter, even though Empoleon is immune to sandstorm and Toxic Spikes, but it must still beware of any other residual damage, such as Spikes, Leech Seed, Stealth Rock or and hail (although Empoleon resists the latter two). Additionally, while using Substitute to gain the Petaya boost, Empoleon can be phazed with Roar or Whirlwind, so it is a better idea to leave Empoleon until late-game or ensure the opponent's phazer is down. As all of these factors will plague Empoleon's ability to sweep, it is best to eliminate these users as soon as possible to ensure a clean late-game sweep.</p>
[SET]
name: Agility + 3 Attacks
move 1: Agility
move 2: Surf / Hydro Pump
move 3: Ice Beam
move 4: Grass Knot
nature: Modest
item: Life Orb
nature: Modest
evs: 12 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpA / 240 Spe
[SET COMMENTS]
<p>This set is an alternative to the above Although this set looks quite similar to the above set, and it has its a couple of different advantages and disadvantages. It forgoes the use of Substitute and Petaya Berry to use three attacks, giving it more rounded coverage against different threats. (period) and while However, because it replaces the Petaya Berry with a Life Orb, the damage output is still will be lower. Additionally, it is more vulnerable to attacks basically any move, such as Thunder Wave and Mach Punch, since it no longer has the protective buffer of a provided by Substitute. In fact, being open toattacks combined with the added recoil of Life Orb will reduce Empoleon's longevity. The moveset is fairly self-explanatory; Agility allows Empoleon to boost its Speed to such a degree that it can sweep with its three coverage moves: Surf, Ice Beam, and Grass Knot. This time, however, Hydro Pump is an option over Surf, since the power could be useful to take down threats that Surf couldn't otherwise defeat. The EVs are the same, since the Speed maintains a healthy number before and after Agility, while again, Special Attack is maximized and the rest is put into bulk. As well as this, Empoleon is open to Thunder Wave since it's no longer behind a Substitute, although after an Agility it should be attacking as much as possible anyway, so hopefully the opponent can be KOed before they can retaliate.</p>
[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
<p>This Empoleon will require much more dedicated team support, since it not only lacks Substitute to protect itself from oncoming onslaught, but requires more entry hazard support to score the KOs, since it doesn't have as much power as the SubPetaya set. Spikes support is almost necessary, as is Stealth Rock. Skarmory can provide Spikes support whiling taking on Empoleon's Ground weakness. For Stealth Rock support, Hippowdon is more than up for the task due to its mammoth physical bulk and ability to summon a sandstorm, which increases the amount of residual damage done upon the foe. Toxic Spikes from the likes of Roserade and Tentacruel are also very useful for wearing down a majority of Empoleon's checks and counters, such as Blissey, Vaporeon, and Celebi. Sandstorm can also be helpful provided the opponent isn't immune to it or has a Rock-type. This time, Hydro Pump is an option, since the power is necessary to take down other threats. On top of this, this Empoleon is more likely to be sweeping mid-game as opposed to late-game, so punching holes in the opponent's team can also clear way for other sweepers. For example, if Empoleon can take down Gyarados or Bronzong, Swords Dance Gliscor can sweep more easily. The EVs are the same, since the Speed maintains a healthy number before and after Agility, while again, Special Attack is maximized and the rest is put into bulk.</p>
[SET]
name: Lead
move 1: Stealth Rock
move 2: Hydro Pump / Surf
move 3: Aqua Jet
move 4: Grass Knot / Ice Beam
nature: Modest
item: Focus Sash / Chople Berry
nature: Modest
evs: 156 HP / 252 SpA / 100 Spe
[SET COMMENTS]
<p>Empoleon's typing also and good enough movepool allows it to be a great lead. With access to Stealth Rock and a priority move to top it off, it can deal with many common leads. Faster, frail leads can be taken out by a combination of Hydro Pump + Aqua Jet, whereas slower leads can have Stealth Rock set up on them before being taken out. Hydro Pump is used in order to deal as much damage as possible to the likes of Hippowdon and Metagross, whereas Surf can be used for more reliability, as it will still deal with Infernape and Tyranitar. Grass Knot deals with takes care of Swampert and other Water-types. Ice Beam can be used instead of Grass Knot to take down Dragonite or and Gliscor, although the latter can still be worn down with Hydro Pump.</p>
[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
<p>The Speed EVs given outpace minimum Speed Skarmory and Metagross, although some Metagross are known to invest a little more to overcome this, so you can do the same. Maximum Special Attack lets Empoleon do as much damage as possible, while the remaining EVs are placed into HP. Focus Sash is the item of choice, since Empoleon's has common weaknesses to common Fighting and Ground are common attacking types attacks, so a Focus Sash is needed in order for Empoleon to have a chance of striking back. However, since some Pokemon are inclined to carry Fake Out (such as Infernape), a Chople Berry can be used to soften the blow from their next strike, since Focus Sash then becomes unusable. Alternatively, for opposing Pokemon who that do not KO, such as Heatran and Metagross, Shuca Berry can be used to soften weaken the damage from their attacks.</p>
<p>Depending on the item, Empoleon faces several unfavorable match-ups, such as against Machamp, Roserade, and Infernape. Machamp is able to smack Empoleon hard with DynamicPunch, which also confuses the penguin. Roserade can sleep Empoleon, and then either slam it hard with Leaf Storm or set up Toxic Spikes. Infernape's combination of Fake Out and Close Combat will nearly always KO Empoleon, though Empoleon can remove Infernape's Focus Sash with Aqua Jet. Dragonite is a decent partner as it resists the threats' STAB attacks, and can use Draco Meteor to deal deadly damage to them. However, it must still beware of Machamp's ability to confuse and Ice Punch. Tentacruel is another option to consider since it resists Fighting and Fire, has great special bulk to take on Roserade's Leaf Storm, and can Rapid Spin away entry hazards.</p>
[SET]
name: Defensive
move 1: Surf
move 2: Grass Knot
move 3: Hidden Power Electric / Stealth Rock
move 4: Roar / Ice Beam
nature: Calm
item: Leftovers
nature: Calm
evs: 252 HP / 252 SpD / 4 Spe
[SET COMMENTS]
<p>Empoleon's stats lend it to a more defensive role, backed up by its great typing; while it's defensive movepool isn't the best, it can still support the team With a great defensive typing, decent support movepool, and solid defensive stats, Empoleon can do a fine job at supporting its team. Empoleon may lack the bulk of Suicune and Swampert, but its typing allows it to resist some of the most common attacking types, meaning it has ample opportunities to switch in and KO the opponent or force it out. However, some offensive Pokemon do run mixed sets, and Empoleon will have problems with even un-STABed Earthquakes, so be careful about what it is switched into. Surf is Empoleon's obligatory STAB attack for damaging purposes. Grass Knot is now more recommended. Since Empoleon is no longer sweeping, bulky Water-types like Swampert are going to be more of a threat due to their ability to outstall Empoleon, Roar it away, and set up their own team support. As such, Grass Knot is a must-have for this set. Hidden Power Electric is recommended on the third slot to deal with Water-types such as Gyarados, which takes less damage from Grass Knot. The use of Roar and Stealth Rock allow Empoleon to also aid the team. Roar gives Empoleon a tool to phaze set-up sweepers while scouting the opponent's team. Stealth Rock is a great alternative over Hidden Power Electric to weaken the opponent's team gradually; it also combines well with Roar to rack up even more damage overtime. Lastly, Ice Beam is usable over Roar to strike troublesome Dragon- and Grass-types, such as Dragonite and Shaymin. Empoleon may lack the bulk of Suicune and Swampert, but its typing allows it to resist some of the most common attacking types, such as Ice and Dragon, meaning it has ample opportunities to switch-in and KO the opponent if not force it out. However, some offensive Pokemon do run mixed sets, and Empoleon will have problems with even un-STABed Earthquakes, so be careful about what it is switched into.</p>
[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
<p>The EVs and nature allow for maximum protection from special attacks. All of Empoleon's potential bulk is better off here on the special side, since most physical attacks take the form of Ground- and Fighting-type moves, which hit Empoleon for super effective damage anyway. Still, 68 Def EVs, taken from SpD, can be used in order to survive 56 Atk mixed Dragonite's Superpower and Offensive Gyarados's Earthquake. Roar is the primary option for phazing out threats that have set up, or for temporarily removing something that troubles your team. Ice Beam can be used for taking out Dragonite and Flygon, although are known to carry physical attacks, so be wary. Stealth Rock can replace Hidden Power Electric, but the ability to take out special attackers such as Togekiss, opposing Empoleon, and Starmie may benefit teams more, considering Stealth Rock users are in high abundance.</p>
<p>Since this Empoleon looks aims to support more than to sweep, having Pokemon that enjoy the removal can take advantage of the weakening of strong special attackers such as Starmie and Togekiss will allow you to take advantage of the holes in your opponent's team is beneficial. Set-up attackers like Metagross or and Infernape can be effective, since they will no longer have a Pokemon that can resist their STAB attacks, which means that they can sweep easier and threaten a KO in return. Alternatively, a Dragon-type like Dragonite or Flygon of your own can be beneficial helpful since they it can attack early on and do some damage to the Suicune or and Swampert early on, which are likely to be lured in for Empoleon to deal with so that the Dragon can clean up the team easier they will lure in, which Empoleon can deal with before the Dragon-type cleans up the team.</p>
[SET]
name: Choice Specs
move 1: Hydro Pump / Surf
move 2: Ice Beam
move 3: Grass Knot
move 4: Sleep Talk / Hidden Power Electric
nature: Modest
item: Leftovers
nature: Modest
evs: 252 HP / 252 SpA / 4 Spe
[SET COMMENTS]
<p>Empoleon can choose to bypass the turns of set-up and start hitting hard straight away thanks to Choice Specs. Its high Special Attack, in tandem with Choice Specs, means that it will be doing noticeable huge damage to a lot majority of your opponent's team. However, due to Choice Specs' side-effect, Empoleon will be switching a lot, and while it resists Stealth Rock, it will still be taking damage from Spikes and as it switches in, as well as also taking Spikes damage. Considering Empoleon isn't a lightning bruiser, it will be taking a hit before it attacks more often than not. However, its reasonable bulk means that it can survive an attack and strike back at the opponent.</p>
<p>Hydro Pump is the main option to dish out as much pain as possible on the opponent. Surf is a fine alternative for reliability. Ice Beam covers Grass- and Dragon-types that resist Water. Grass Knot destroys Water-types that resist the rest of the set. The most notable thing niche about the set is Sleep Talk. Because of Empoleon's great resistances and decent bulk, it can work as an effective sleep absorber for the team. Sleep Talk allows it to still attack while not being locked into one single attacking move. This is also reflected in the EV spread - little Speed is actually invested, while as much HP as possible means Empoleon can stay alive as long as possible. Hidden Power Electric is an alternative over Sleep Talk for the OHKO on Gyarados and 2HKO on Vaporeon (with Stealth Rock), but does little outside of that.</p>
[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
<p>Despite the defensive investment, Empoleon doesn't actually carry Rest or any form of healing, so Wish support would will be greatly appreciated. Since this set uses Choice Specs often, Blissey and Snorlax will be switching in easily, especially if Empoleon is using an attacking move instead of Sleep Talk. Jirachi can provide Wish support and take out Blissey with continuous Iron Heads, but shares a Ground-type weakness. Jolteon heals itself when switching into Empoleon's Electric-type weakness, although it also stopped by Blissey. However, it can use Charge Beam and Baton Pass to power up Empoleon even more. In fact, +1 Hydro Pump has a small chance to 2HKO Blissey with Stealth Rock. For a more reliable way of eliminating Blissey and Snorlax, Tyranitar can be considered to either smack them with Superpower or hit them on their switch out with Pursuit. Aside from that, a faster EV spread of 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe with a Timid nature can be used to Speed tie with Steel Killer Magnezone and SubPunch Breloom. However, this EV spread loses out on a lot of bulk just for these small scenarios.</p>
<p>Hydro Pump is preferred for its power, although Surf can also be used for its accuracy. Sleep Talk can also be replaced for Hidden Power Electric to combat the likes of Suicune and Vaporeon if sleep doesn't concern you. Paralysis support is also very handy for this set, since it can allow Empoleon to stay at high health and not take hits from opposing Pokemon. Despite the maximum HP investment, Empoleon's Defense is still sub-par, so having something Pokemon such as Celebi or and Rotom-A will be extremely helpful when something with a Ground- or Fighting-type move comes into play. Celebi and Rotom-A can also spread around Thunder Wave to make up for Empoleon's low Speed.</p>
[Team Options]
<p>Empoleon needs little in the way of team options due to its resistances and natural defenses. However, if playing an offensive set, especially the Agility + 3 Attacks, having Spikes and Stealth Rock down can be crucial to help Empoleon score OHKOs or 2HKOs on the opponent. Entry hazards are also important for the other offensive sets, but less so due to their higher power thanks to Petaya Berry / Choice Specs. However, any offensive set will be stopped cold by Blissey or any specially defensive wall. Dugtrio can trap and KO Blissey with its STAB Earthquake, and is also immune to Electric-type moves which are one of Empoleon's weaknesses. Infernape can play the role of a mixed wallbreaker, using special attacks to lure Blissey in before hitting it with Close Combat. Empoleon also resists the Water-, Psychic-, and Flying-type moves that Infernape is weak to, despite sharing a Ground weakness. Paralysis support can also be helpful for sets lacking Agility, since Empoleon isn't very fast, and if there is no investment in HP or Special Defense, Empoleon may be wounded fatally before it can attack.</p>
<p>Defensively, Wish support is paramount, since Empoleon does not have its own method of recovery outside of Rest. While defensive Empoleon invests in HP and has more longevity, it will find itself unable to deal with hard-hitters, especially Infernape, Metagross, or and Gyarados, since it will still take hefty damage, if not get OHKOed by these attackers, yet it has lost the ability to strike back. However, Empoleon can still be an effective sponge for specially-based attacks, so having a teammate that can sweep easily with a lack of Pokemon such as Starmie or and Suicune will be beneficial. Metagross shares its Ground-type weakness with Empoleon, but appreciates having Suicune taken out. Gliscor is also an option, since it cannot deal with bulky Water-types, so Empoleon can clear a sweep for it easily. Gliscor can also help Empoleon out by laying down Stealth Rock or Taunting defensive Pokemon so that Empoleon has an easier time taking them down.</p>
[Optional Changes]
<p>Empoleon has access to Swords Dance to boost its mediocre Attack Empoleon has a fairly limited movepool, so it doesn't have much other options. With access to Swords Dance to boost its mediocre Attack and a usable physical movepool consisting of Earthquake, Aqua Jet, Waterfall, Drill Peck, Return, and Avalanche, Empoleon can become a neat physical sweeper, but its movepool it lacks power and coverage Speed to score any notable damage sweep properly. Offensively, Empoleon's other options pale in comparison to the listed Surf, Hydro Pump, Grass Knot, Ice Beam, and Hidden Power Electric. Earthquake, Aqua Jet, Waterfall, and Drill Peck can be used alongside Swords Dance, but as said, Swords Dance is poor. Defensively, Yawn, Roar, and Stealth Rock are Empoleon's only for support. Yawn can be used to phaze, but often when it comes to Empoleon, it is much better to remove off removing the threat offensively rather than forcing it out and Roar is generally superior for phazing overall. Flash Cannon is available for a secondary STAB move, though it offers redundant coverage with Empoleon's main moves. Lastly, Knock Off is usable on the Defensive set to remove items, but turns essentially useless when the job is done.</p>
<p>Empoleon's EV spreads are quite solid. The only leeway that can be given is that the HP EVs can be changed if your IV is not 31 for some reason or other. So long as the number is divisible by 4, any necessary EVs can be pulled from SpA. Usually, 240 Speed is all that's needed after an Agility, and if Empoleon isn't running Agility, then little Speed is needed, since the only notable things that are slower than Empoleon are Machamp and Hippowdon, both of whom cannot outspeed Empoleon without concentrated investment. Empoleon's Special Defense is better than its physical Defense, but investing in HP is the most effective since its HP is naturally lower than its Special Defense. However, more EVs can be taken out of HP and SpA if you wish for Empoleon to survive certain attacks, such as Choice Specs Kingdra's Draco Meteor.</p>
(This paragraph isn't really saying much. If you have to say anything about changing EVs for a set, you can do that in its AC.)
[Counters]
<p>Blissey is a natural the best counter to Empoleon due to its high Special Defense since it is only 5HKOed by Surf, thanks to its enormous special bulk, and can cripple the penguin with Thunder Wave or wear it down with Seismic Toss. Empoleon's can only Roar it away, and Blissey can paralyze it or use Seismic Toss to wear it down. (I didn't keep the Roar mention because only one set has it.) Kingdra takes little damage from any move Empoleon can throw at it, but it can't do much back except for Hidden Power Electric. (I think this is a bad example. Taking neutral damage from both Ice Beam and Grass Knot isn't good, and not much Kingdra are Swift Swim sweepers to carry HP Electric anyway, which is just a slash on the rain sweeper set. Life Orb Ice Beam/Grass Knot 2HKOes Kingdra after Stealth Rock, for instance. Additionally, both STABs are resisted.) Empoleon relies on Agility to outspeed and damage the opponent before it can hit back, but so anything Pokemon with a strong and relatively fast Earthquake, such as Gyarados, Flygon, or and Tyranitar, (comma) can KO any unboosted Empoleon easily. As long as they switch in on a revenge kill and Empoleon hasn't used Agility, Jolteon, Rotom-A, and Magnezone will can destroy Empoleon with their STAB Electric-type attacks; (semi-colon) especially as in addition, Magnezone has Magnet Pull to prevent Empoleon from escaping.</p>
(I'm sure you can add in a few more counters. Any variants lacking Ice Beam will have Dragonite, Shaymin, and Celebi walling it. On the opposite side, variants without Grass Knot will always lose to Calm Mind Suicune and Vaporeon... or Water-types without Ground or Rock typing. Hidden Power Electric Vaporeon does relatively well overall as it only takes 60 Base Power from Grass Knot, which is a 3HKO. As such, it can attack and heal with ease without critical hits in tact.)
Ok, I was thinking about GPing it, but there are some fundamental issues with the content of the analysis. For instance, in the first paragraph of the second set, you say "This may seem similar to the above...", but that's unacceptable. I know it's unlikely, but if somehow the sets change order, that paragraph would make no sense. Each set needs to be written as though it's its own entity, completely apart from the other sets.
Fix this up and I will give this its second GP check.
Fix this up and I will give this its second GP check.
Changes in bold
Removals in red
comments in bold red
[Overview]
<p>From the outset, Empoleon doesn't look particularly overwhelming - its movepool isn't overflowing in terms of offense, and it doesn't have any stats that bring it to the front of the crowd. However, what it does have is a unique typing that grants it an immunity and 11 resistances to some of the most common attacking types, such as Ice, Dragon, Ghost, Rock, Water, and Dark. In contrast, Empoleon only has weaknesses to Ground, Fighting, and Electric. Its high Special Defense also lends it to the job of a defensive Pokemon, but it can be capable of much more. Wielding both Agility and an already high Special Attack stat, Empoleon is an extremely deadly late-game sweeper, with just enough coverage to destroy entire teams. While Empoleon may not be used very much since it requires a well-built team, this does not detract from the fact that it can be very effective if played correctly.</p>
[SET]
name: SubPetaya
move 1: Agility
move 2: Substitute
move 3: Surf
move 4: Ice Beam / Grass Knot
item: Petaya Berry
nature: Modest
evs: 12 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpA / 240 Spe
[SET COMMENTS]
<p>This set aims to sweep the opponent late-game with Agility, in conjunction with Petaya Berry's and Torrent's boosts. With 240 Spe EVs and an Agility, Empoleon reaches 432 Speed, outspeeding +1 Jolly Gyarados and Dragonite, Choice Scarf Togekiss, +2 Adamant Metagross, and positive-natured Choice Scarf Heatran. Empoleon can also OHKO Heatran and 2HKO Metagross with Surf, while being able to OHKO Dragonite and 2HKO Togekiss, provided Stealth Rock is in play. The premise of the set is simple; late-game, you can switch Empoleon in on any one of its many resistances, or after a revenge kill, and use Agility as your opponent switches out to a check. After an Agility, the only Pokemon outspeeding Empoleon are going to be Choice Scarf Starmie, Gengar, and Azelf (flygon and jirachi?). Because of this, Empoleon can confidently use Substitute to not only block incoming status and critical attacks, but also get Empoleon into range for its Petaya Berry to activate. Surf is the mandatory STAB attack, as due to the Petaya Berry boost, Hydro Pump's extra power is not necessary.</p>
<p>The EVs maximize Empoleon's attacking power, while 12 HP EVs are given so that it only takes three Substitutes for Petaya Berry activate at 25% as opposed to needing four Substitutes and having the Berry activate at 1%. 240 Speed EVs are all that's needed, as more EVs doesn't outspeed anymore notable Pokemon, and since the last 4 will make no difference, they are better off being placed into Defense.</p>
[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
<p>Ice Beam is the prime choice for providing good coverage, most notably against Shaymin, Dragonite, Celebi, and Zapdos. Grass Knot can be used over Ice Beam for taking down Swampert and Suicune, although it's noteworthy that Swampert can Roar while Suicune can just set up multiple Calm Minds while Empoleon uses Substitute. Since Empoleon can only have Ice Beam or Grass Knot, it is wise to use teammates that can eradicate Pokemon problematic to the move you are not running. Choice Scarf Jirachi is able to hit all four with a super effective with Ice Punch, though it may be a little weak lack the power to outright KO them. Tyranitar packs a much bigger punch with Crunch, Stone Edge, and Fire Punch, but be wary of Grass- and Ground-type attacks when using it. Blissey is the biggest problem for this set, as it takes little damage from Empoleon's attacks, even from a boosted Surf, and whittle down Empoleon's HP using Seismic Toss. In order to remove Blissey, using a powerful physical attacker, such as Lucario or Breloom, is recommended. Both Lucario and Breloom have access to Swords Dance to boost their Attack to sky-high levels; individually, Lucario has Close Combat and ExtremeSpeed to vanquish the foe, while Breloom resists two of Empoleon's weaknesses and has Spore to put a foe out of commission.</p>
<p>Empoleon is considerably susceptible to any super effective priority move, particularly Mach Punch from the likes of Breloom and Infernape, especially if the user comes in before Empoleon starts using Substitute. Besides this, even though Empoleon is immune to sandstorm and Toxic Spikes, it must still beware of any other residual damage, such as Spikes, Leech Seed, and hail. Additionally, while using Substitute to gain the Petaya boost, Empoleon can be phazed with Roar or Whirlwind. As all of these factors will plague Empoleon's ability to sweep, it is best to eliminate these users as soon as possible to ensure a clean late-game sweep.</p>
[SET]
name: Agility + 3 Attacks
move 1: Agility
move 2: Surf / Hydro Pump
move 3: Ice Beam
move 4: Grass Knot
item: Life Orb
nature: Modest
evs: 12 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpA / 240 Spe
[SET COMMENTS]
<p>While this set may look similar to the above, it has certain advantages and disadvantages. This set forgoes the use of Substitute and Petaya Berry to use three attacks, giving it more rounded coverage against different threats. However, because it replaces the Petaya Berry with a Life Orb, the damage output is lower. Additionally, it is more vulnerable to basically any move, such as Thunder Wave or Mach Punch, as it no longer has the protective buffer provided by a Substitute. In fact, being open to attacks combined with the added recoil of Life Orb will reduce Empoleon's longevity significantly. The moveset is fairly self-explanatory; Agility allows Empoleon to boost its Speed to such a degree that it can sweep with its three coverage moves: Surf, Ice Beam, and Grass Knot. This time, however, Hydro Pump is an option over Surf, since the power could be useful to take down threats that Surf couldn't otherwise defeat. The EVs are the same, since the Speed maintains a healthy number before and after Agility, while again, Special Attack is maximized and the rest is put into bulk.</p>
[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
<p>This Empoleon will require much more dedicated team support, since it not only lacks Substitute to protect itself from oncoming onslaught, but requires more entry hazard support to score the its KOs, since it doesn't have as much power as the SubPetaya set. Skarmory can provide Spikes support while also (whiling is a verb so I don't know how it fits in that context..) taking on Empoleon's Ground weakness. For Stealth Rock support, Hippowdon is more than up for the task thanks to its mammoth physical bulk and ability to summon a sandstorm, which increases the amount of residual damage done upon the foe. Toxic Spikes from the likes of Roserade and Tentacruel are also very useful for wearing down a majority of Empoleon's checks and counters, such as Blissey, Vaporeon, and Celebi. On top of this, this Empoleon is more likely to be sweeping mid-game as opposed to late-game, so punching holes in the opponent's team can also clear the way for other sweepers. For example, if Empoleon can take down Gyarados or Bronzong, Swords Dance Gliscor can sweep more easily.</p>
[SET]
name: Lead
move 1: Stealth Rock
move 2: Hydro Pump / Surf
move 3: Aqua Jet
move 4: Grass Knot / Ice Beam
item: Focus Sash / Chople Berry
nature: Modest
evs: 156 HP / 252 SpA / 100 Spe
[SET COMMENTS]
<p>Empoleon's typing and good movepool allows it to be a great lead; with access to Stealth Rock, and a priority move to top it off, it can deal with many common leads. Faster, frail leads can be taken out by a combination of Hydro Pump + Aqua Jet, whereas slower leads can have Stealth Rock set up on them before being taken out. Hydro Pump is used in order to deal as much damage as possible to the likes of Hippowdon and Metagross, whereas Surf can be used for more reliability, as it will still deal with Infernape and Tyranitar. Grass Knot takes care of Swampert and other Water-types. Ice Beam can be used instead of Grass Knot to take down Dragonite and Gliscor, although the former can still be worn down with Hydro Pump, and the latter is already OHKOed by Surf.</p>
[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
<p>The Speed EVs given outpace minimum Speed Skarmory and Metagross, although some Metagross are known to invest a little more to overcome this, so you can do the same. Maximum Special Attack lets Empoleon do as much damage as possible, while the remaining EVs are placed into HP. Focus Sash is the item of choice; since Empoleon has weaknesses to common Fighting- and Ground-type moves, a Focus Sash is needed in order for Empoleon to have a chance of striking back. However, since some Pokemon are inclined to carry Fake Out (such as Infernape), a Chople Berry can be used to soften the blow from their next strike, since Focus Sash then becomes unusable. Alternatively, for opposing Pokemon that do not KO, such as Heatran and Metagross, Shuca Berry can be used to weaken the damage from their attacks.</p>
<p>Depending on the item, Empoleon faces several unfavorable match-ups, such as against Machamp, Roserade, and Infernape with Focus Sash. Machamp is able to smack Empoleon hard with DynamicPunch, which also confuses the penguin. Roserade can sleep Empoleon, and then either slam it hard with Leaf Storm or set up Toxic Spikes. Infernape's combination of Fake Out and Close Combat will nearly always KO Empoleon, though Empoleon can remove Infernape's Focus Sash with Aqua Jet. Dragonite is a decent partner as it resists the threats' STAB attacks, and can use Draco Meteor to deal deadly damage to them. However, it must still beware of Machamp's ability to confuse and learn Ice Punch. Tentacruel is another option to consider since it resists Fighting and Fire, has great special bulk to take on Roserade's Leaf Storm, and can Rapid Spin away entry hazards.</p>
[SET]
name: Defensive
move 1: Surf
move 2: Grass Knot
move 3: Hidden Power Electric / Stealth Rock
move 4: Roar / Ice Beam
item: Leftovers
nature: Calm
evs: 252 HP / 252 SpD / 4 Spe
[SET COMMENTS]
<p>With a great defensive typing, decent support movepool, and solid defensive stats, Empoleon can do a fine job at supporting its team. Empoleon may lack the bulk of Suicune and Swampert, but its typing allows it to resist some of the most common attacking types, meaning it has ample opportunities to switch in and KO the opponent or force it out. Surf is the obligatory STAB move. Since Empoleon is no longer sweeping, bulky Water-types like Swampert are going to be more of a threat due to their ability to outstall Empoleon, Roar it away, and set up their own team support. As such, Grass Knot is a must-have for this set. Hidden Power Electric is recommended on the third slot to deal with Water-types such as Gyarados, which takes less damage from Grass Knot (you already have Grass Knot -_-). The use of Roar and Stealth Rock allow Empoleon to also aid the team. Roar gives Empoleon a tool to phaze set-up sweepers while scouting the opponent's team. Stealth Rock is a great alternative over Hidden Power Electric to weaken the opponent's team gradually; it also combines well with Roar to rack up even more damage overtime. Lastly, Ice Beam is usable over Roar to strike troublesome Dragon- and Grass-types, such as Dragonite and Shaymin.</p>
[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
<p>The EVs and nature allow for maximum protection from special attacks. All of Empoleon's potential bulk is better off on the special side, since most physical attackers will be carrying a Ground- or Fighting-type move, which hit Empoleon for super effective damage anyway. Still, 68 Def EVs, taken from SpD, can be used in order to survive 56 Atk mixed Dragonite's Superpower and Offensive Gyarados's Earthquake.</p>
<p>Since this Empoleon aims to support more than sweep, having Pokemon that take advantage of weakened special attackers such as Starmie and Togekiss are beneficial. Set-up attackers like Metagross and Infernape can be effective, since they will no longer have a Pokemon that can resist their STAB attacks (what? why?), allowing them to sweep unhindered. Alternatively, a Dragon-type such as Dragonite or Flygon can be beneficial since Empoleon can do some damage to the Suicune or Swampert that trouble them early on, which they are likely to lure in, allowing Empoleon to deal with it and so the Dragon-type to clean up later.</p>
[SET]
name: Choice Specs
move 1: Hydro Pump / Surf
move 2: Ice Beam
move 3: Grass Knot
move 4: Sleep Talk / Hidden Power Electric
nature: Modest
item: Leftovers
evs: 252 HP / 252 SpA / 4 Spe
[SET COMMENTS]
<p>Empoleon can choose to bypass the turns of set-up and start hitting hard straight away thanks to Choice Specs. Its high Special Attack in tandem with Choice Specs means that it will be doing huge damage to a majority of your opponent's team. However, due to Choice Specs's side-effect, Empoleon will be switching a lot, and while it resists Stealth Rock, it will still be taking damage from Spikes as it switches in. Considering Empoleon isn't a lightning bruiser, it will be taking a hit before it attacks more often than not as well. However, its reasonable bulk means that it can survive an attack and strike back at the opponent.</p>
<p>Hydro Pump is the main option to dish out as much pain as possible on the opponent. Surf is a fine alternative for reliability. Ice Beam covers Grass- and Dragon-types that resist Water. Grass Knot destroys Water-types that resist the rest of the set. The most notable niche about the set is Sleep Talk. Because of Empoleon's great resistances and decent bulk, it can work as an effective sleep absorber for the team. Sleep Talk allows it to attack while not being locked into one single attacking move. This is also reflected in the EV spread - little Speed is actually invested, while as much HP as possible means Empoleon can stay alive as long as possible. Hidden Power Electric is an alternative over Sleep Talk for the OHKO on Gyarados and 2HKO on Vaporeon (with Stealth Rock), but it does little outside of that.</p>
[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
<p>Despite the defensive investment, Empoleon doesn't carry Rest or any form of healing, so Wish support will be greatly appreciated. Since this set uses Choice Specs, Blissey and Snorlax will be switching into it rather easily. Jirachi can provide Wish support and take out Blissey with continuous Iron Heads, but shares a Ground-type weakness. Jolteon heals itself when switching into Empoleon's Electric-type weakness, although it is also stopped by Blissey. However, it can use Charge Beam and Baton Pass to power up Empoleon even more. In fact, +1 Hydro Pump has a small chance to 2HKO Blissey with Stealth Rock. For a more reliable way of eliminating Blissey and Snorlax, Tyranitar can be considered to either smack them with Superpower or hit them on their switch out with Pursuit. Aside from that, a faster EV spread of 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe with a Timid nature can be used to Speed tie with Steel Killer Magnezone and outspeed SubPunch Breloom. However, this EV spread loses out on a lot of bulk just for these small scenarios.</p>
<p>Paralysis support is very handy for this set, since it can allow Empoleon to stay at high health and not take hits from opposing Pokemon. Despite the maximum HP investment, Empoleon's Defense is still sub-par, so having Pokemon such as Celebi and Rotom-A will be extremely helpful when a Ground- or Fighting-type move comes into play. Celebi and Rotom-A can also spread around Thunder Wave to make up for Empoleon's low Speed.</p>
[Team Options]
<p>Empoleon needs little in the way of team options due to its resistances and natural defenses. However, if playing an offensive set, especially the Agility + 3 Attacks, having Spikes and Stealth Rock down can be crucial to help Empoleon score OHKOs or 2HKOs on the opponent. Entry hazards are also important for the other offensive sets, but less so due to their higher power thanks to Petaya Berry / Choice Specs. However, any offensive set will be stopped cold by Blissey or any specially defensive wall. Dugtrio can trap and KO Blissey with its STAB Earthquake, and is also immune to Electric-type moves which are one of Empoleon's weaknesses. Dragonite can play the role of a mixed wallbreaker well, using special attacks to lure Blissey in (i don't think any Blissey is going to be lured in by an Infernape...) before hitting it with Superpower. Empoleon also resists the Water-, Psychic-, and Flying-type moves that Infernape is weak to, despite sharing a Ground weakness. Paralysis support can also be helpful for sets lacking Agility, since Empoleon isn't very fast, and if there is no investment in HP or Special Defense, Empoleon may be fatally wounded before it can even attack.</p>
<p>Defensively, Wish support is paramount, since Empoleon does not have its own method of recovery outside of Rest. Though defensive Empoleon invests in HP and has more longevity, it will still find itself unable to deal with hard-hitters, especially Infernape, Metagross, and Gyarados, since it will still take hefty damage, if not get OHKOed by these attackers (wouldn't it be more appropriate to make Empoleon plural in this sentence? =\). However, Empoleon can still be an effective sponge for specially-based attacks, so having a teammate that can sweep easily with a lack of Pokemon such as Starmie and Suicune will be beneficial. Metagross shares its Ground-type weakness with Empoleon, but appreciates having Suicune taken out. Gliscor is also an option, since it cannot deal with bulky Water-types, so Empoleon can clear a sweep for it easily. Gliscor can also help Empoleon out by laying doown Stealth Rock or Taunting defensive Pokemon so that Empoleon has an easier time taking them down.</p>
[Optional Changes]
<p>Empoleon has a fairly limited movepool, so it doesn't have much other options. With access to Swords Dance to boost its mediocre Attack and a usable physical movepool consisting of Earthquake, Aqua Jet, Waterfall, Drill Peck, Return, and Avalanche, Empoleon can become a neat physical sweeper, but it lacks the power and Speed to sweep properly. Yawn can be used to phaze, but often when it comes to Empoleon, it is much better off removing the threat offensively rather than forcing it out. Additionally, Roar is a superior move for phazing. Flash Cannon is available for a secondary STAB move, though it offers redundant coverage with Empoleon's main moves. Lastly, Knock Off is usable on the Defensive set to remove items, but turns essentially useless when the job is done.</p>
[Counters]
<p>Blissey is the best counter to Empoleon since it is only 5HKOed by Surf, thanks to its enormous special bulk (not being 3HKOed by even the Choice Specs set's Hydro Pump factoring Leftovers), and can cripple the penguin with Thunder Wave or wear it down with Seismic Toss. Empoleon relies on Agility to outspeed and damage the opponent before it can hit back, so any Pokemon with a strong and relatively fast Earthquake, such as Gyarados, Flygon, and Tyranitar, can KO any unboosted Empoleon easily. As long as they switch in on a revenge kill and Empoleon hasn't used Agility, Jolteon, Rotom-A, and Magnezone can destroy Empoleon with their STAB Electric-type attacks; in addition, Magnezone has Magnet Pull to prevent Empoleon from escaping. Variants without Ice Beam lose to Dragonite, Shaymin, or Celebi while those without Grass Knot will fall flat against Swampert and Vaporeon.</p>
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[Overview]
<p>From the outset, Empoleon doesn't look particularly overwhelming - its movepool isn't overflowing in terms of offense, and it doesn't have any stats that bring it to the front of the crowd. However, what it does have is a unique typing that grants it an immunity and 11 resistances to some of the most common attacking types, such as Ice, Dragon, Ghost, Rock, Water, and Dark. In contrast, Empoleon only has weaknesses to Ground, Fighting, and Electric. Its high Special Defense also lends it to the job of a defensive Pokemon, but it can be capable of much more. Wielding both Agility and an already high Special Attack stat, Empoleon is an extremely deadly late-game sweeper, with just enough coverage to destroy entire teams. While Empoleon may not be used very much since it requires a well-built team, this does not detract from the fact that it can be very effective if played correctly.</p>
[SET]
name: SubPetaya
move 1: Agility
move 2: Substitute
move 3: Surf
move 4: Ice Beam / Grass Knot
item: Petaya Berry
nature: Modest
evs: 12 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpA / 240 Spe
[SET COMMENTS]
<p>This set aims to sweep the opponent late-game with Agility, in conjunction with Petaya Berry's and Torrent's boosts. With 240 Spe EVs and an Agility, Empoleon reaches 432 Speed, outspeeding +1 Jolly Gyarados and Dragonite, Choice Scarf Togekiss, +2 Adamant Metagross, and positive-natured Choice Scarf Heatran. Empoleon can also OHKO Heatran and 2HKO Metagross with Surf, while being able to OHKO Dragonite and 2HKO Togekiss, provided Stealth Rock is in play. The premise of the set is simple; late-game, you can switch Empoleon in on any one of its many resistances, or after a revenge kill, and use Agility as your opponent switches out to a check. After an Agility, the only Pokemon outspeeding Empoleon are going to be Choice Scarf Starmie, Gengar, and Azelf (flygon and jirachi?). Because of this, Empoleon can confidently use Substitute to not only block incoming status and critical attacks, but also get Empoleon into range for its Petaya Berry to activate. Surf is the mandatory STAB attack, as due to the Petaya Berry boost, Hydro Pump's extra power is not necessary.</p>
<p>The EVs maximize Empoleon's attacking power, while 12 HP EVs are given so that it only takes three Substitutes for Petaya Berry activate at 25% as opposed to needing four Substitutes and having the Berry activate at 1%. 240 Speed EVs are all that's needed, as more EVs doesn't outspeed anymore notable Pokemon, and since the last 4 will make no difference, they are better off being placed into Defense.</p>
[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
<p>Ice Beam is the prime choice for providing good coverage, most notably against Shaymin, Dragonite, Celebi, and Zapdos. Grass Knot can be used over Ice Beam for taking down Swampert and Suicune, although it's noteworthy that Swampert can Roar while Suicune can just set up multiple Calm Minds while Empoleon uses Substitute. Since Empoleon can only have Ice Beam or Grass Knot, it is wise to use teammates that can eradicate Pokemon problematic to the move you are not running. Choice Scarf Jirachi is able to hit all four with a super effective with Ice Punch, though it may be a little weak lack the power to outright KO them. Tyranitar packs a much bigger punch with Crunch, Stone Edge, and Fire Punch, but be wary of Grass- and Ground-type attacks when using it. Blissey is the biggest problem for this set, as it takes little damage from Empoleon's attacks, even from a boosted Surf, and whittle down Empoleon's HP using Seismic Toss. In order to remove Blissey, using a powerful physical attacker, such as Lucario or Breloom, is recommended. Both Lucario and Breloom have access to Swords Dance to boost their Attack to sky-high levels; individually, Lucario has Close Combat and ExtremeSpeed to vanquish the foe, while Breloom resists two of Empoleon's weaknesses and has Spore to put a foe out of commission.</p>
<p>Empoleon is considerably susceptible to any super effective priority move, particularly Mach Punch from the likes of Breloom and Infernape, especially if the user comes in before Empoleon starts using Substitute. Besides this, even though Empoleon is immune to sandstorm and Toxic Spikes, it must still beware of any other residual damage, such as Spikes, Leech Seed, and hail. Additionally, while using Substitute to gain the Petaya boost, Empoleon can be phazed with Roar or Whirlwind. As all of these factors will plague Empoleon's ability to sweep, it is best to eliminate these users as soon as possible to ensure a clean late-game sweep.</p>
[SET]
name: Agility + 3 Attacks
move 1: Agility
move 2: Surf / Hydro Pump
move 3: Ice Beam
move 4: Grass Knot
item: Life Orb
nature: Modest
evs: 12 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpA / 240 Spe
[SET COMMENTS]
<p>While this set may look similar to the above, it has certain advantages and disadvantages. This set forgoes the use of Substitute and Petaya Berry to use three attacks, giving it more rounded coverage against different threats. However, because it replaces the Petaya Berry with a Life Orb, the damage output is lower. Additionally, it is more vulnerable to basically any move, such as Thunder Wave or Mach Punch, as it no longer has the protective buffer provided by a Substitute. In fact, being open to attacks combined with the added recoil of Life Orb will reduce Empoleon's longevity significantly. The moveset is fairly self-explanatory; Agility allows Empoleon to boost its Speed to such a degree that it can sweep with its three coverage moves: Surf, Ice Beam, and Grass Knot. This time, however, Hydro Pump is an option over Surf, since the power could be useful to take down threats that Surf couldn't otherwise defeat. The EVs are the same, since the Speed maintains a healthy number before and after Agility, while again, Special Attack is maximized and the rest is put into bulk.</p>
[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
<p>This Empoleon will require much more dedicated team support, since it not only lacks Substitute to protect itself from oncoming onslaught, but requires more entry hazard support to score the its KOs, since it doesn't have as much power as the SubPetaya set. Skarmory can provide Spikes support while also (whiling is a verb so I don't know how it fits in that context..) taking on Empoleon's Ground weakness. For Stealth Rock support, Hippowdon is more than up for the task thanks to its mammoth physical bulk and ability to summon a sandstorm, which increases the amount of residual damage done upon the foe. Toxic Spikes from the likes of Roserade and Tentacruel are also very useful for wearing down a majority of Empoleon's checks and counters, such as Blissey, Vaporeon, and Celebi. On top of this, this Empoleon is more likely to be sweeping mid-game as opposed to late-game, so punching holes in the opponent's team can also clear the way for other sweepers. For example, if Empoleon can take down Gyarados or Bronzong, Swords Dance Gliscor can sweep more easily.</p>
[SET]
name: Lead
move 1: Stealth Rock
move 2: Hydro Pump / Surf
move 3: Aqua Jet
move 4: Grass Knot / Ice Beam
item: Focus Sash / Chople Berry
nature: Modest
evs: 156 HP / 252 SpA / 100 Spe
[SET COMMENTS]
<p>Empoleon's typing and good movepool allows it to be a great lead; with access to Stealth Rock, and a priority move to top it off, it can deal with many common leads. Faster, frail leads can be taken out by a combination of Hydro Pump + Aqua Jet, whereas slower leads can have Stealth Rock set up on them before being taken out. Hydro Pump is used in order to deal as much damage as possible to the likes of Hippowdon and Metagross, whereas Surf can be used for more reliability, as it will still deal with Infernape and Tyranitar. Grass Knot takes care of Swampert and other Water-types. Ice Beam can be used instead of Grass Knot to take down Dragonite and Gliscor, although the former can still be worn down with Hydro Pump, and the latter is already OHKOed by Surf.</p>
[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
<p>The Speed EVs given outpace minimum Speed Skarmory and Metagross, although some Metagross are known to invest a little more to overcome this, so you can do the same. Maximum Special Attack lets Empoleon do as much damage as possible, while the remaining EVs are placed into HP. Focus Sash is the item of choice; since Empoleon has weaknesses to common Fighting- and Ground-type moves, a Focus Sash is needed in order for Empoleon to have a chance of striking back. However, since some Pokemon are inclined to carry Fake Out (such as Infernape), a Chople Berry can be used to soften the blow from their next strike, since Focus Sash then becomes unusable. Alternatively, for opposing Pokemon that do not KO, such as Heatran and Metagross, Shuca Berry can be used to weaken the damage from their attacks.</p>
<p>Depending on the item, Empoleon faces several unfavorable match-ups, such as against Machamp, Roserade, and Infernape with Focus Sash. Machamp is able to smack Empoleon hard with DynamicPunch, which also confuses the penguin. Roserade can sleep Empoleon, and then either slam it hard with Leaf Storm or set up Toxic Spikes. Infernape's combination of Fake Out and Close Combat will nearly always KO Empoleon, though Empoleon can remove Infernape's Focus Sash with Aqua Jet. Dragonite is a decent partner as it resists the threats' STAB attacks, and can use Draco Meteor to deal deadly damage to them. However, it must still beware of Machamp's ability to confuse and learn Ice Punch. Tentacruel is another option to consider since it resists Fighting and Fire, has great special bulk to take on Roserade's Leaf Storm, and can Rapid Spin away entry hazards.</p>
[SET]
name: Defensive
move 1: Surf
move 2: Grass Knot
move 3: Hidden Power Electric / Stealth Rock
move 4: Roar / Ice Beam
item: Leftovers
nature: Calm
evs: 252 HP / 252 SpD / 4 Spe
[SET COMMENTS]
<p>With a great defensive typing, decent support movepool, and solid defensive stats, Empoleon can do a fine job at supporting its team. Empoleon may lack the bulk of Suicune and Swampert, but its typing allows it to resist some of the most common attacking types, meaning it has ample opportunities to switch in and KO the opponent or force it out. Surf is the obligatory STAB move. Since Empoleon is no longer sweeping, bulky Water-types like Swampert are going to be more of a threat due to their ability to outstall Empoleon, Roar it away, and set up their own team support. As such, Grass Knot is a must-have for this set. Hidden Power Electric is recommended on the third slot to deal with Water-types such as Gyarados, which takes less damage from Grass Knot (you already have Grass Knot -_-). The use of Roar and Stealth Rock allow Empoleon to also aid the team. Roar gives Empoleon a tool to phaze set-up sweepers while scouting the opponent's team. Stealth Rock is a great alternative over Hidden Power Electric to weaken the opponent's team gradually; it also combines well with Roar to rack up even more damage overtime. Lastly, Ice Beam is usable over Roar to strike troublesome Dragon- and Grass-types, such as Dragonite and Shaymin.</p>
[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
<p>The EVs and nature allow for maximum protection from special attacks. All of Empoleon's potential bulk is better off on the special side, since most physical attackers will be carrying a Ground- or Fighting-type move, which hit Empoleon for super effective damage anyway. Still, 68 Def EVs, taken from SpD, can be used in order to survive 56 Atk mixed Dragonite's Superpower and Offensive Gyarados's Earthquake.</p>
<p>Since this Empoleon aims to support more than sweep, having Pokemon that take advantage of weakened special attackers such as Starmie and Togekiss are beneficial. Set-up attackers like Metagross and Infernape can be effective, since they will no longer have a Pokemon that can resist their STAB attacks (what? why?), allowing them to sweep unhindered. Alternatively, a Dragon-type such as Dragonite or Flygon can be beneficial since Empoleon can do some damage to the Suicune or Swampert that trouble them early on, which they are likely to lure in, allowing Empoleon to deal with it and so the Dragon-type to clean up later.</p>
[SET]
name: Choice Specs
move 1: Hydro Pump / Surf
move 2: Ice Beam
move 3: Grass Knot
move 4: Sleep Talk / Hidden Power Electric
nature: Modest
item: Leftovers
evs: 252 HP / 252 SpA / 4 Spe
[SET COMMENTS]
<p>Empoleon can choose to bypass the turns of set-up and start hitting hard straight away thanks to Choice Specs. Its high Special Attack in tandem with Choice Specs means that it will be doing huge damage to a majority of your opponent's team. However, due to Choice Specs's side-effect, Empoleon will be switching a lot, and while it resists Stealth Rock, it will still be taking damage from Spikes as it switches in. Considering Empoleon isn't a lightning bruiser, it will be taking a hit before it attacks more often than not as well. However, its reasonable bulk means that it can survive an attack and strike back at the opponent.</p>
<p>Hydro Pump is the main option to dish out as much pain as possible on the opponent. Surf is a fine alternative for reliability. Ice Beam covers Grass- and Dragon-types that resist Water. Grass Knot destroys Water-types that resist the rest of the set. The most notable niche about the set is Sleep Talk. Because of Empoleon's great resistances and decent bulk, it can work as an effective sleep absorber for the team. Sleep Talk allows it to attack while not being locked into one single attacking move. This is also reflected in the EV spread - little Speed is actually invested, while as much HP as possible means Empoleon can stay alive as long as possible. Hidden Power Electric is an alternative over Sleep Talk for the OHKO on Gyarados and 2HKO on Vaporeon (with Stealth Rock), but it does little outside of that.</p>
[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
<p>Despite the defensive investment, Empoleon doesn't carry Rest or any form of healing, so Wish support will be greatly appreciated. Since this set uses Choice Specs, Blissey and Snorlax will be switching into it rather easily. Jirachi can provide Wish support and take out Blissey with continuous Iron Heads, but shares a Ground-type weakness. Jolteon heals itself when switching into Empoleon's Electric-type weakness, although it is also stopped by Blissey. However, it can use Charge Beam and Baton Pass to power up Empoleon even more. In fact, +1 Hydro Pump has a small chance to 2HKO Blissey with Stealth Rock. For a more reliable way of eliminating Blissey and Snorlax, Tyranitar can be considered to either smack them with Superpower or hit them on their switch out with Pursuit. Aside from that, a faster EV spread of 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe with a Timid nature can be used to Speed tie with Steel Killer Magnezone and outspeed SubPunch Breloom. However, this EV spread loses out on a lot of bulk just for these small scenarios.</p>
<p>Paralysis support is very handy for this set, since it can allow Empoleon to stay at high health and not take hits from opposing Pokemon. Despite the maximum HP investment, Empoleon's Defense is still sub-par, so having Pokemon such as Celebi and Rotom-A will be extremely helpful when a Ground- or Fighting-type move comes into play. Celebi and Rotom-A can also spread around Thunder Wave to make up for Empoleon's low Speed.</p>
[Team Options]
<p>Empoleon needs little in the way of team options due to its resistances and natural defenses. However, if playing an offensive set, especially the Agility + 3 Attacks, having Spikes and Stealth Rock down can be crucial to help Empoleon score OHKOs or 2HKOs on the opponent. Entry hazards are also important for the other offensive sets, but less so due to their higher power thanks to Petaya Berry / Choice Specs. However, any offensive set will be stopped cold by Blissey or any specially defensive wall. Dugtrio can trap and KO Blissey with its STAB Earthquake, and is also immune to Electric-type moves which are one of Empoleon's weaknesses. Dragonite can play the role of a mixed wallbreaker well, using special attacks to lure Blissey in (i don't think any Blissey is going to be lured in by an Infernape...) before hitting it with Superpower. Empoleon also resists the Water-, Psychic-, and Flying-type moves that Infernape is weak to, despite sharing a Ground weakness. Paralysis support can also be helpful for sets lacking Agility, since Empoleon isn't very fast, and if there is no investment in HP or Special Defense, Empoleon may be fatally wounded before it can even attack.</p>
<p>Defensively, Wish support is paramount, since Empoleon does not have its own method of recovery outside of Rest. Though defensive Empoleon invests in HP and has more longevity, it will still find itself unable to deal with hard-hitters, especially Infernape, Metagross, and Gyarados, since it will still take hefty damage, if not get OHKOed by these attackers (wouldn't it be more appropriate to make Empoleon plural in this sentence? =\). However, Empoleon can still be an effective sponge for specially-based attacks, so having a teammate that can sweep easily with a lack of Pokemon such as Starmie and Suicune will be beneficial. Metagross shares its Ground-type weakness with Empoleon, but appreciates having Suicune taken out. Gliscor is also an option, since it cannot deal with bulky Water-types, so Empoleon can clear a sweep for it easily. Gliscor can also help Empoleon out by laying doown Stealth Rock or Taunting defensive Pokemon so that Empoleon has an easier time taking them down.</p>
[Optional Changes]
<p>Empoleon has a fairly limited movepool, so it doesn't have much other options. With access to Swords Dance to boost its mediocre Attack and a usable physical movepool consisting of Earthquake, Aqua Jet, Waterfall, Drill Peck, Return, and Avalanche, Empoleon can become a neat physical sweeper, but it lacks the power and Speed to sweep properly. Yawn can be used to phaze, but often when it comes to Empoleon, it is much better off removing the threat offensively rather than forcing it out. Additionally, Roar is a superior move for phazing. Flash Cannon is available for a secondary STAB move, though it offers redundant coverage with Empoleon's main moves. Lastly, Knock Off is usable on the Defensive set to remove items, but turns essentially useless when the job is done.</p>
[Counters]
<p>Blissey is the best counter to Empoleon since it is only 5HKOed by Surf, thanks to its enormous special bulk (not being 3HKOed by even the Choice Specs set's Hydro Pump factoring Leftovers), and can cripple the penguin with Thunder Wave or wear it down with Seismic Toss. Empoleon relies on Agility to outspeed and damage the opponent before it can hit back, so any Pokemon with a strong and relatively fast Earthquake, such as Gyarados, Flygon, and Tyranitar, can KO any unboosted Empoleon easily. As long as they switch in on a revenge kill and Empoleon hasn't used Agility, Jolteon, Rotom-A, and Magnezone can destroy Empoleon with their STAB Electric-type attacks; in addition, Magnezone has Magnet Pull to prevent Empoleon from escaping. Variants without Ice Beam lose to Dragonite, Shaymin, or Celebi while those without Grass Knot will fall flat against Swampert and Vaporeon.</p>
this was a great write-up..
It's cool that you checked it and all, but Zy still hasn't fixed the issues I noted in my previous post. He's been online, though, so maybe he just sucks at noticing. I'll PM him.
Alright, cool. When you implement Aeron's check, this will be good to go and I'll upload it.
Strange that I would edit my mod check into the OP before uploading this, but that's how it works. Good job on this, even though I had to reword at least two dozen sentences that were either wrong in their content or bizarre in their prose.
And with that, the last Pokemon in OU needing an update has been finished. Monumental, really.
And with that, the last Pokemon in OU needing an update has been finished. Monumental, really.