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Exeggutor (SubSeed) (QC 3/3) (GP 2/2)

Discussion in 'Uploaded Analyses' started by Zebraiken, Feb 24, 2012.

  1. Zebraiken

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    Exeggutor

    qc'd: NatGeo, Oglemi, Omicron
    gp'd: Steven Snype, Badal

    [SET]
    name: SubSeed
    move 1: Substitute
    move 2: Leech Seed
    move 3: Psychic / Hidden Power Ice
    move 4: Protect
    item: Sitrus Berry
    ability: Harvest
    nature: Bold
    evs: 252 HP / 172 Def / 84 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>Although Exeggutor is best known for its special attacking prowess, its defensive abilities should by no means be underestimated. Thanks to its Dream World ability, Harvest, Exeggutor can pull off an effective SubSeed set that is notoriously hard to KO. Exeggutor's reputation as an offensive Pokemon will force Pokemon such as Alomomola and Wartortle to switch out of a potential Grass-type attack, allowing Exeggutor to set up a Substitute. From there, the strategy is very simple: use Leech Seed on any Pokemon that isn't a Grass-type or a Duosion, then alternate between Substitute and Protect to maximize the recovery from Leech Seed. However, the real magic of the set is the combination of Sitrus Berry and Harvest. When Exeggutor has less than half of its HP left, Sitrus Berry will kick in and restore 25% of its HP; afterwards, Harvest has a 50% chance of restoring the Sitrus Berry. It is possible that Exeggutor can heal multiple times in a single turn if Harvest activates, transforming a near-fatal situation into a much more comfortable one.</p>

    <p>Psychic mutilates a large amount of Grass-types in the tier, as many have a secondary Poison typing, and others have low Special Defense, such as Tangela or Leafeon. Hidden Power Ice can be used instead to nail Altaria, Torterra, and Dark-types such as Skuntank and Absol, but Psychic is generally more powerful and reliable. This set functions exceedingly well as a counter to the ever-present Fighting-types in the tier, such as Sawk and Gurdurr. Both of them will struggle to do reliable damage to Exeggutor, while it can OHKO and 2HKO them, respectively.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>84 Speed EVs allow Exeggutor to outpace Alomomola before it can use Toxic, although most Alomomola won't take such a tremendous risk to poison it. The rest of the EVs are placed into HP and Defense to maximize Exeggutor's physical bulk. A specially defensive set should be avoided, as Exeggutor has mediocre Special Defense and has difficulty handling many of the specially-oriented Pokemon in NU, such as Magmortar and Jynx. Leftovers may be considered if Harvest's 50% chance of restoring Sitrus Berry is too unreliable for your tastes, but it's much more advantageous to use Sitrus Berry in the long run. A Chesto Berry can be used in combination with Rest, but Exeggutor already has trouble fitting everything it needs into four moveslots, and Rest doesn't help.</p>

    <p>When using this set, it is imperative to remove Toxic Spikes and avoid status on Exeggutor at all costs, as even an untimely paralysis can spell doom for Exeggutor. Grounded Poison-types or spinners are a must to remove Toxic Spikes—Skuntank and Garbodor are very useful examples of the former, and Cryogonal is arguably the best available spinner in NU and has fairly good defensive synergy with Exeggutor, although both must be wary of Fire-type attacks. Teammates with Heal Bell or Aromatherapy can be used as well, although most Aromatherapy users are Grass-types like Exeggutor and should be avoided to prevent multiplying weaknesses. Lickilicky and Altaria can provide Heal Bell support, and both handle Magmortar, Rotom-S, and other common special attackers exceedingly well.</p>

    <p>Swellow and Braviary are by far the most dangerous Pokemon to Exeggutor, as they can U-turn for heavy damage and avoid Leech Seed at the same time. As such, it is necessary to have a teammate that can handle the physical Flying-types with ease. Golem is a standout candidate, as it can tank their attacks and set up Stealth Rock to limit any further U-turn antics. Entry hazards in general are very useful, as this set forces many switches thanks to a combination of Leech Seed and Exeggutor's notable offensive presence, even without investment. Garbodor can lay both Spikes and Toxic Spikes, and also absorb opposing Toxic Spikes, meaning Exeggutor has one less thing to worry about, making it a good teammate.</p>
  2. col49

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    bro, ya keep talkin' about sitrus berry, yet ya got lefties as the item .-. also ya might wanna note that most pokes carrying sub can set up on him. unless ur running tspike support, in which case most of them are fucked over. so yeah, hint hint...
    <3 this set btw
  3. Zebraiken

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    Hehe, I copied the format from another set and forgot to change the item (I fixed it just before you posted!). Exeggutor's usual offensive presence scares off most mons that would try to set up on it but yup, I'll definitely mention that. Thanks. :D
  4. NatGeo

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    mention psyshock otherwise this is lovely

    QC 1/3
  5. Oglemi

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    This set is such a damn nigga

    also mention Rest + Chesto in the AC or something idc

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    This thing just survived a Swellow's Brave Bird, while seeding said Swellow, proceeding (proseeding?) to almost bring it down singlehandedly.
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    Just saying I think that Psychic deserves primary slash. Vileplume/Amoonguss are hit super effectively, Tangela has shitty SpD, and it lets Eggy abuse a powerful STAB when needed
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    What about Hidden Power Ice somewhere? It still hits the Dark-types you stress so much, while still nailing Grass-types, and on top of that, Altaria.

    EDIT: @Ice-eyes below That would be 84 Spe EVs for min Almomola.
  10. Ice-eyes

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    This should be faster. You really don't want Alomomola to get in and Toxic you.
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    This should typically be a non-issue imo since the very first thing you should be doing when you bring Eggy in is Substitute, and I can't really think of a situation where someone would be ballsy enough to switch Alo into an Eggy even when they know that it's a SubSeed set for fear of Giga Drain or something.

    EDIT: I suppose if you're trying to switch in and sub on Alo I can see where running enough speed to beat it would be good though
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    Yeah, I meant to say get in first (ie before you have the chance to Sub on it) and Toxic you. Or Tangela can Sleep Powder you. Or various things can Substitute etc etc.
  13. Zebraiken

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    I'm thinking that you really shouldn't have to use Psyshock at all. Remember that nearly all of the Grass-types in NU are physically biased (think Leafeon, Tangela, Vileplume etc) and that the special walls you'd want to use Psyshock on, you'd really rather be using Leech Seed (like Lickilicky etc). I just don't see the purpose of Psyshock when you aren't investing in Special Attack and such.

    Ok.

    Ok, though I'm stressing that opposing Eggy are a bitch and Dark-types suck.

    Ok. HP Ice would be better anyway, idk how I missed that.

    Yeah, although honestly I've never seen an Alomomola ballsy enough to stay in on Exeggutor. I'll edit the spread.
  14. Zebraiken

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    This is written. Probably has a few mistakes because I don't really want to go over and double-check it. :(
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    [SET]
    name: SubSeed
    move 1: Substitute
    move 2: Leech Seed
    move 3: Psychic / Hidden Power Ice
    move 4: Protect
    item: Sitrus Berry
    ability: Harvest
    nature: Bold
    evs: 252 HP / 172 Def / 84 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>Although Exeggutor is best known for its special attacking prowess, its defensive abilities should by no means be underestimated. Thanks to its Dream World ability, Harvest, Exeggutor can pull off an effective SubSeed set that is notoriously hard to KO. Exeggutor's reputation as an offensive Pokemon will force Pokemon such as Alomomola and Wartortle to switch out of a potential Grass-type attack, allowing Exeggutor to set up a Substitute. From there, the strategy is very simple: use Leech Seed on any Pokemon that isn't a Grass-type or Duosion, then alternate between Substitute and Protect to maximize the recovery from Leech Seed. However, the real magic of the set is in the combination of Sitrus Berry and Harvest. When Exeggutor has less than half of its HP left, Sitrus Berry will kick in and restore 25% of its HP; afterwards, Harvest has a 50% chance of restoring the Sitrus Berry. It is possible that Exeggutor can heal multiple times in a single turn if Harvest activates, transforming a near-fatal situation into a much more comfortable one.</p>

    <p>Psychic mutilates a large amount of Grass-types in the tier, as many have a secondary Poison typing, and others have low Special Defense, such as Tangela or Leafeon. Hidden Power Ice can be used instead to nail Altaria, Torterra, and Dark-types such as Skuntank and Absol, but Psychic is generally more powerful and reliable. This set functions exceedingly well as a counter to the everpresent Fighting-types in the tier, such as Sawk and Gurdurr. Both will struggle to do reliable damage to Exeggutor, while it can OHKO and 2HKO them, respectively.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>84 Speed EVs allows Exeggutor to outpace Alomomola before it can Toxic, although most Alomomola won't take such a tremendous risk to Toxic it. The rest of the EVs are placed into HP and Defense to maximize Exeggutor's physical bulk. A specially defensive set should be avoided, as Exeggutor has mediocre Special Defense and has difficulty handling many of the specially-oriented Pokemon in NU, such as Magmortar and Jynx. Leftovers may be considered if Harvest's 50% chance of restoring Sitrus Berry is too unreliable for your tastes, but it's much more advantageous to use Sitrus Berry in the long run. Additionally, a Chesto Berry can be used in combination with Rest, but Exeggutor already has trouble fitting everything it needs into four moveslots, and the addition of Rest doesn't help.</p>

    <p>When using this set, it is imperative to remove Toxic Spikes and avoid status on Exeggutor at all costs, as even an untimely paralysis can spell doom for Exeggutor. Grounded Poison-types or spinners are a must to remove Toxic Spikes—Skuntank and Garbodor are very useful examples of the former, while Cryogonal is the best available spinner in NU and has fairly good defensive synergy with Exeggutor, although both must be wary of Fire-type attacks. Teammates with Heal Bell or Aromatherapy can be used as well, although most Aromatherapy users are Grass-types like Exeggutor, and should be avoided to prevent multiplying weaknesses. Lickilicky and Altaria can provide Heal Bell support, and both handle Magmortar, Rotom-S, and other common special attackers exceedingly well.</p>

    <p>Swellow and Braviary are by far the most dangerous Pokemon to Exeggutor, as they can U-turn for heavy damage and avoid Leech Seed at the same time. As such, it is necessary to have a teammate that can handle the physical Flying-types with ease. Golem is a standout candidate, as it can tank their attacks and set up Stealth Rock to limit any further U-turn antics. Entry hazards in general are very useful, as this set forces many switches thanks to a combination of Leech Seed and Exeggutor's notable offensive presence, even without investment. Garbodor can lay both Spikes and Toxic Spikes and also absorb opposing Toxic Spikes, meaning Exeggutor has one less thing to worry about.</p>


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  16. Zebraiken

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    Implemented, thankies.
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    [SET]
    name: SubSeed
    move 1: Substitute
    move 2: Leech Seed
    move 3: Psychic / Hidden Power Ice
    move 4: Protect
    item: Sitrus Berry
    ability: Harvest
    nature: Bold
    evs: 252 HP / 172 Def / 84 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>Although Exeggutor is best known for its special attacking prowess, its defensive abilities should by no means be underestimated. Thanks to its Dream World ability, Harvest, Exeggutor can pull off an effective SubSeed set that is notoriously hard to KO. Exeggutor's reputation as an offensive Pokemon will force Pokemon such as Alomomola and Wartortle to switch out of a potential Grass-type attack, allowing Exeggutor to set up a Substitute. From there, the strategy is very simple: use Leech Seed on any Pokemon that isn't a Grass-type or a Duosion, then alternate between Substitute and Protect to maximize the recovery from Leech Seed. However, the real magic of the set is the combination of Sitrus Berry and Harvest. When Exeggutor has less than half of its HP left, Sitrus Berry kicks in and restores 25% of its HP; afterwards, Harvest has a 50% chance of restoring the Sitrus Berry. It is possible that Exeggutor can heal multiple times in a single turn if Harvest activates, transforming a near-fatal situation into a much more comfortable one.</p>

    <p>Psychic mutilates a large amount of Grass-types in the tier, as many have a secondary Poison typing, and others have low Special Defense, such as Tangela or Leafeon. Hidden Power Ice can be used instead to nail Altaria, Torterra, and Dark-types such as Skuntank and Absol, but Psychic is generally more powerful and reliable. This set functions exceedingly well as a counter to the everpresent Fighting-types in the tier, such as Sawk and Gurdurr. Both of them will struggle to do reliable damage to Exeggutor, while it can OHKO and 2HKO them, respectively.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>84 Speed EVs allow Exeggutor to outpace Alomomola before it can use Toxic, although most Alomomola won't take such a tremendous risk to poison it. The rest of the EVs are placed into HP and Defense to maximize Exeggutor's physical bulk. A specially defensive set should be avoided, as Exeggutor has mediocre Special Defense and has difficulty handling many of the specially-oriented Pokemon in NU, such as Magmortar and Jynx. Leftovers may be considered if Harvest's 50% chance of restoring Sitrus Berry is too unreliable for your taste, but it's much more advantageous to use Sitrus Berry in the long run. A Chesto Berry can be used in combination with Rest, but Exeggutor already has trouble fitting everything it needs into four moveslots, and Rest doesn't help.</p>

    <p>When using this set, it is imperative to remove Toxic Spikes and avoid status on Exeggutor at all costs, as even an untimely paralysis can spell doom for Exeggutor. Grounded Poison-types or spinners are a must; to remove Toxic Spikes—Skuntank and Garbodor are very useful examples of the former. Cryogonal is the best available spinner in NU and has fairly good defensive synergy with Exeggutor, although both must be wary of Fire-type attacks. Teammates with Heal Bell or Aromatherapy can be used as well, although most Aromatherapy users are Grass-types like Exeggutor and should be avoided to prevent multiplying weaknesses. Lickilicky and Altaria can provide Heal Bell support, and both handle Magmortar, Rotom-S, and other common special attackers exceedingly well.</p>

    <p>Swellow and Braviary are by far the most dangerous Pokemon to Exeggutor, as they can U-turn for heavy damage and avoid Leech Seed at the same time. As such, it is necessary to have a teammate that can handle the physical Flying-types with ease. Golem is a standout candidate, as it can tank their attacks and set up Stealth Rock to limit any further U-turn antics. Entry hazards in general are very useful, as this set forces many switches thanks to a combination of Leech Seed and Exeggutor's notable offensive presence, even without investment. Garbodor can lay both Spikes and Toxic Spikes, and also absorb opposing Toxic Spikes, meaning Exeggutor has one less thing to worry about, making it a good teammate.</p>


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  18. Zebraiken

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    Thanks for the check, Badal! I opted out of several changes I felt were unnecessary, primarily the second paragraph of AC (what is it you were trying to say there?).

    This is otherwise done.
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