Exeggutor (Update) [GP 2/2]

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  1. Crystal_

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    [Overview]

    <p>Exeggutor is one of the most common and useful Pokemon in RBY OU. While not omnipresent like Tauros, Snorlax, and Chansey, it is still an excellent addition to most OU teams. Exeggutor is easy to fit onto a team thanks to its ability to effectively fulfill many important roles. With access to Sleep Powder, Exeggutor is by far the most common sleeper in the game, and is often used as a lead. Its unique typing grants it useful resistances to Psychic and Earthquake. Exeggutor is also bulky enough to make good use of these resistances. For this reason, Exeggutor effectively deals with Golem and Rhydon, and is able to take a few Psychics from the likes of Alakazam and opposing Exeggutor. In addition, a healthy Exeggutor also works as a decent answer to Snorlax and Tauros, especially if you can switch into them as they use Earthquake. While limited, Exeggutor's offenses should not be underestimated either; Exeggutor's Psychic gets STAB and comes off a 348 Special stat, and Explosion can KO Chansey or a Psychic-type trying to tank Psychic.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Standard
    move 1: Sleep Powder
    move 2: Psychic
    move 3: Explosion
    move 4: Stun Spore / Double-Edge / Mega Drain

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>Thanks to its bulk and useful resistances, Exeggutor is the most reliable sleeper in the game as it will find many opportunities to switch in and put something to sleep via Sleep Powder. Exeggutor has the ability to take hits from many common Pokemon such as Alakazam, Exeggutor, Golem, Rhydon, and Gengar, and can easily switch into Earthquakes. Exeggutor can also switch into Chansey as it uses Softboiled or Thunderbolt. Exeggutor can also afford to take Body Slams and non-STAB-boosted Ice-type moves in a pinch. However, Exeggutor is slower than the other two common sleepers, Jynx and Gengar, which means that they will be able to put Exeggutor to sleep before it has a chance to reciprocate. For this reason, if Exeggutor is the only Pokemon with a sleep move on your team, it's a good idea to switch to another Pokemon, such as Alakazam or Starmie, to take the sleep and save Exeggutor and its Sleep Powder for later. Psychic is Exeggutor's main attacking move, and hits any non-Psychic-type Pokemon, except for Chansey, very hard. Explosion is Exeggutor's best option against Chansey and Alakazam. It is also very useful against other defensive Pokemon, such as Starmie and opposing Exeggutor. Explosion can also work as an emergency stop to sweepers such as Tauros, Snorlax, Slowbro, and Zapdos. Explosion is a key move in Exeggutor's moveset, since Exeggutor's role in most battles consists of spreading status, sponging physical attacks generally from Rhydon, Golem, or Snorlax, while scaring them with Psychic, and then Exploding on a wall or an offensive threat.</p>

    <p>The are three main options for the last slot. Stun Spore is probably the most common of the three; it provides a secondary status move, allowing Exeggutor to cripple many of its common switch-ins such as Alakazam, Starmie, Jynx, Lapras, opposing Exeggutor, and even Chansey. It's also useful for the occasional match-up with Tauros during the late-game part of the battle. Double-Edge can be useful for common switch-ins with low Defense, such as Alakazam and Jynx, hitting them for around 40% damage. Double-Edge gives Exeggutor the chance to take out a paralyzed Alakazam switching into it without having to resort to Explosion, and might even be able to take out a low health Chansey as well. Double-Edge also hits opposing Exeggutor harder, but due to its recoil, and Psychic's chance to score a Special drop, this doesn't give Exeggutor much of an advantage over opposing Exeggutor. Mega Drain makes Exeggutor an even better counter to Rhydon and Golem. Mega Drain is a 3HKO on Starmie, so you will have to paralyze it first. Mega Drain's ability to regain HP also helps Exeggutor to stick around longer and potentially spread more status. Both attacking moves are good options against Slowbro, and help putting it at low enough health to be KOed by Explosion.</p>

    [Other Options]

    <p>Exeggutor is quite versatile for RBY, although it's advisable to stick to the standard set's moves. Exeggutor's bunch of resistances and its bulkiness allow it to use Rest effectively, especially when combined with paralysis support from other teammates. Hyper Beam is an offensive alternative to Double-Edge that can deal around 60% to Alakazam and Jynx and almost 50% to Chansey, being useful when they have been previously weakened. Leech Seed is not as useful as in newer generations, due to it only draining 1/16 HP, but the HP healed against Chansey is still significant. Leech Seed and Rest is a gimmicky combination but may sometimes work out, especially when your opponent is lacking in offensive options. Reflect is another defensive move in Exeggutor's movepool, as it helps it sponge hits from powerful physical attackers, such as Tauros and Snorlax. Reflect can also be used alongside Rest, but this strategy works better on Hypno due to its lack of a weakness to Ice-type moves. In general, the moves that scare Exeggutor out come from the special side, except for Zapdos's Drill Peck, so Reflect is generally a poor move on Exeggutor. Finally, Egg Bomb is a similar move to Double-Edge, but it is not recommended due to its low accuracy.</p>

    [Checks and Counters]

    <p>Exeggutor's counters can be arranged into two main groups: the three recoverers (Chansey, Alakazam, and Starmie), and other Pokemon that can hit Exeggutor hard with super effective moves, such as Jynx, Lapras, and Zapdos. However, note that none of these are sure-fire counters, since Exeggutor can put one to sleep with Sleep Powder, and use Explosion on another. It's a good idea to send one Pokemon in first to bait the sleep move to activate Sleep Clause. Good examples for this role are Alakazam, Starmie, Jynx, Exeggutor, and Gengar as long as you are careful to not switch into Psychic. However, have in mind that letting your sleeper get put to sleep could mean that you won't be able to put anything to sleep in the future, unless you have another Pokemon able to induce said status. Alakazam and Chansey make great counters since they can easily shrug off any damage from Exeggutor's Psychic with Recover and Softboiled, respectively. Alakazam can also set up Reflect to avoid being OHKOed by Explosion, but should watch out for Double-Edge when switching in if it is paralyzed. Chansey is a riskier bet because it is generally more valuable than Alakazam, and you don't want to expose it to the threat of Explosion, but it can easily sponge Exeggutor's Psychic nonetheless. Starmie works similarly, and can outspeed Exeggutor and 3HKO it with Blizzard, but it hates paralysis and should also watch out for Mega Drain.</p>

    <p>Jynx is probably the best Exeggutor counter, however. Jynx resists Exeggutor's Psychic and can scare it with a 2HKO thanks to its STAB Blizzard, and has the ability to outspeed Exeggutor and put it to sleep with Lovely Kiss in a lead match-up. Although it is 3HKOed by Double-Edge, Jynx works wonderfully against Exeggutor that lack a Normal-type move. Even against Double-Edge variants, Jynx can work as a good check if you predict properly. If Exeggutor takes out Jynx via Explosion, it is not all bad news, because that will prevent Exeggutor from Exploding on other Pokemon, such as Chansey or Alakazam, that are generally more useful than Jynx. Lapras is a great Exeggutor counter even though it doesn't resist Psychic; thanks to its great HP stat, Psychic is only a 4HKO. Articuno is a less common alternative to Lapras, but its STAB Blizzard is even more powerful. The other two legendary birds also work well against Exeggutor; Zapdos has a chance to 2HKO Exeggutor with Drill Peck, while Moltres's Fire Blast will always 2HKO it. Cloyster can also 2HKO Exeggutor with Blizzard, but takes over 40% from Psychic. If you have no better option, your own Exeggutor can also work as a check, being able to take many Psychics, while you wear it down with your own Psychic or Double-Edge, or threaten it with Explosion or a status move.</p>

    <p>While Gengar, Golem, and Rhydon have no business taking on Exeggutor as they are countered by it, they are useful for switching into a predicted Explosion. However, since Exeggutor can hit them very hard with its other moves, doing this is very risky if you don't predict correctly. A low health Pokemon or a sleeping Pokemon can be a good alternative to these three Normal-type resistors for switching into Exeggutor when you think your opponent might be about to use Explosion.</p>
  2. evan

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    Honestly I think Mega Drain is only OO material. It's really only useful if your team is deathly afraid of Golem/Rhydon and even then Psychic hits them plenty hard enough and they have no business staying in on Eggy anyway. I also wouldn't mention Reflect or Egg Bomb at all.

    Might mention that Exeggutor's most common role in a team is as a lead (though it's certainly not its only one), sleeping a mon and then paralysing/exploding on something else or sponging phys attacks.

    imo Jynx is eggy's best counter, especially in a lead matchup. Jynx has a pretty decent shot at KOing eggy before it can do anything with Blizzard (thanks to crits + Sleep Powder's accuracy) or just Lovely Kiss it in a lead matchup since it outspeeds and shrugs off Psychic though it doesn't like Para (nothing does) and Double-Edge hurts.
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    Don't know about MD, I never use it myself, but I think it sees enough usage to be main set worthy, compared to the usage OO moves get.
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    MD should definitely stay on the main set.

    I think maybe you are being a bit to thorough in the other options. I mean, you can use Eggy without Sleep Powder, but, I dont really think we should actually recommend it.. Especially not for Hyper beam. I think it would be enough to say that the other options should pretty much always be for that 4th moveslot, rather than saying something like 100% never should you ever consider anything other than changing the 4th moveslot.

    Like, when you have a set, like, an eggy with two normal attacks and no sleep powder, it really only works because everybody assumes without question that eggy will have sleep powder.. It may be something that might work, but if we are going into that level of depth, you can use eggy without psychic too.. Yeah, I dont think it should be explicitly stated.

    Also I would prefer if you didnt say things like the accuracy drop isnt worth the lack of recoil. I would just point out it hasnt got the accuracy, and maybe mention it isnt as common as double-edge, although the fact that d-e is a main option and eggbomb isnt kinda implies that already.

    Where you say "such as Jynx and Lapras" I would include Zapdos, since it is the one other pokemon in OU that does that.

    Maybe mention that sleeping pokemon are good for taking eggy's explosion, since if eggy dies it often means they wont be able to sleep anything else.
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    looks fine, but i disagree with evan on mega drain. i've used it on most of my exeggutors and it is really nice for destroying golem before it can explode on you (as there might be times when it would stay in but psychic won't ko). also it hits starmie hard enough for it not be able to switch in too safely.

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    MD is a main set option for sure, it's got enough usage and is mostly handy for keeping Eggy healthy enough to make its Explosion more unpredictable. It's taking a lot of tiny Psychics, so stealing back tiny bits of health with a lot of Mega Drains adds up, and of course the payoff is huge if you can catch Starmie or Lapras trying to switch in, or Golem/Rhydon trying to predict the Explosion.

    I have to agree with Hip on the OO section, though. One of the main reasons you use Eggy is for the somewhat reliable 2-for-1: put one thing to Sleep, Explode to kill another. Gengar technically gets this too, but he's way too frail, his Sleep move way too inaccurate, and his Explosion is mad weak, yo. Without Sleep Powder, you lose a big part of what makes Eggy Eggy.

    Other than this, I'd say it's good for approval 2/2 (though it still does need Hipmonlee's official seal of approval).
  7. Crystal_

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    Okay, so what do you guys think about removing the text in red? And Maybe remove Reflect too?

    Also, added things in blue.
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    I would leave egg bomb in, I just think you should keep evaluation type comments out of the analyses. Like, try to avoid saying one is better than the other, unless it really objectively is..

    It is implied that one is better than the other, but, explicitly stating it is going a bit far.

    Otherwise I'm happy with the changes.
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    [Overview]

    <p>Exeggutor is one of the most common and useful Pokemon in RBY OU. While not omnipresent like Tauros, Snorlax, (add comma) and Chansey, it is still an excellent addition to most OU teams. Exeggutor is easy to fit onto a team thanks to its ability to effectively fulfil many important roles. With access to Sleep Powder, Exeggutor is by far the most common sleeper in the game, and is often used as a lead. Its unique typing grants it useful resistances to Psychic and Earthquake, and Exeggutor is bulky enough to make good use of these resistances . For this reason, Exeggutor is a very effective Pokemon to deal with Golem and Rhydon, and is able to take a few Psychics from the likes of Alakazam and opposing Exeggutor. In addition, a healthy Exeggutor also works as a decent answer to Snorlax and Tauros, especially if you can switch into them as they use Earthquake. While limited, Exeggutor's offenses should not be underestimated either; Exeggutor's Psychic gets STAB and comes off a 348 Special stat, and Explosion can KO Chansey or a Psychic-type trying to tank a resisted Psychic.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Standard
    move 1: Sleep Powder
    move 2: Psychic
    move 3: Explosion
    move 4: Stun Spore / Double-Edge / Mega Drain

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>Sleep Powder is Exeggutor's signature move. Thanks to its bulk and useful resistances, Exeggutor is the most reliable sleeper in the game as and it will find many opportunities to switch in and put something to sleep. Exeggutor has the ability to take hits from many common Pokemon such as Alakazam, Exeggutor, Golem, Rhydon, and Gengar without being crippled, and can easily switch into Chansey as it uses Softboiled or Thunderbolt. Exeggutor can also afford to take Body Slams and unSTABed Ice-type moves in a pinch. However, Exeggutor is slower than the other two common sleepers, Jynx and Gengar, which means that they will be able to put Exeggutor to sleep before it has a chance to reciprocate. For this reason, if Exeggutor is the only Pokemon with a sleep move on your team, it's a good idea to switch to another Pokemon, such as Alakazam or Starmie, to take the sleep and save Exeggutor and its Sleep Powder for later. Psychic is Exeggutor's main attacking move, and hits any non-Psychic-type Pokemon, except for Chansey, very hard. Explosion is Exeggutor's best option against Chansey and Alakazam . It is also very useful against other defensive Pokemon, such as Starmie and opposing Exeggutor. Explosion can also work as an emergency stop to sweepers such as Tauros, Snorlax, Slowbro, and Zapdos. Explosion is a key move in Exeggutor's moveset, since Exeggutor's role in most battles consists on spreading status, sponging physical attacks generally from Rhydon, Golem, or Snorlax, while scaring them with Psychic, and then exploding into a wall or into an offensive threat.</p>

    <p>The are three main options for the last slot. Stun Spore is probably the most common of the three; it provides a secondary status move, allowing Exeggutor to cripple many of its common switch-ins such as Alakazam, Starmie, Jynx, Lapras, opposing Exeggutor, and even Chansey. It's also useful for the occasional matchup with Tauros during the late-game. Double-Edge can be useful for common switch-ins with low Defense, such as Alakazam and Jynx, hitting them for around 40% damage. Double-Edge gives Exeggutor the chance to take out a paralyzed Alakazam switching into it without having to resort to Explosion, and might even be able to take out a low health Chansey as well. Double-Edge also hits opposing Exeggutor harder, but due to its recoil, and Psychic's chance to score a Special drop, this doesn't give Exeggutor much of an advantage over opposing Exeggutor. Mega Drain makes Exeggutor an even stronger counter to Rhydon and Golem, and to 3HKO Starmie, although you will have to paralyze it first. Mega Drain's ability to regain HP also helps Exeggutor to stick around longer and potentially spread more status. Both attacking moves are good options against Slowbro, and help putting at low enough health to be KOed by Explosion.</p>

    [Other Options]

    <p> Exeggutor is quite versatile for RBY, although it's advisable to stick to the standard set's moves. Exeggutor's bunch of resistances and its bulkiness allow it to use Rest effectively, especially when combined with paralysis support from other teammates. Hyper Beam is an offensive alternative to Double-Edge that can deal around 60% to Alakazam and Jynx and almost 50% to Chansey, making it useful when they have been previously weakened. Leech Seed is not as useful as in newer generations, due to only draining 1/16 HP, but the HP healed against Chansey is still significant. Leech Seed and Rest is a gimmicky combination but may sometimes work out, especially when your opponent is lacking in offensive options. Reflect is another excellent defensive move in Exeggutor's movepool, as it helps it sponge hits from powerful physical attackers, such as Tauros and Snorlax. Reflect can also be used alongside Rest, but this strategy works better on Hypno due to its lack of a weakness to Ice-type moves. In general, the moves that scare Exeggutor out come from the special side, except for Zapdos's Drill Peck, so Reflect is generally a poor move on Exeggutor. Finally, Egg Bomb is a similar move to Double-Edge, but it is not recommended due to its low accuracy.</p>

    [Checks and Counters]

    <p>Exeggutor's counters can be arranged into two main groups: the three recoverers (Chansey, Alakazam, and Starmie), and other Pokemon that can hit Exeggutor hard with super-effective moves, such as Jynx, Lapras, and Zapdos. However, note that none of these are sure-fire counters, since Exeggutor can put one to sleep with Sleep Powder, and use Explosion on another. It's a good idea to send one Pokemon in first to bait the sleep move to activate Sleep Clause. Good examples for this role are Alakazam, Starmie, Jynx, Exeggutor, and Gengar as long as you are careful not to switch into Psychic. However, have in mind that letting your sleeper get slept could mean that you won't be able to put anything to sleep in the future, unless you have another Pokemon able to induce said status. Alakazam and Chansey make great counters since they can easily shrug off any damage from Exeggutor's Psychic with Recover and Softboiled, respectively. Alakazam can also set up Reflect to avoid being OHKOed by Explosion, but should watch out for Double-Edge when switching in if it is paralyzed. Chansey is a riskier bet because it is generally more valuable than Alakazam, and you won't want to expose it to the threat of Explosion, but it can easily sponge Exeggutor's Psychic nonetheless. Starmie works similarly, and can outspeed Exeggutor and 3HKO it with Blizzard but hates paralysis and should also watch out for Mega Drain.</p>

    <p> Jynx is probably the best Exeggutor counter, however. Jynx resists Exeggutor's Psychic and can scare it with a 2HKO thanks to its STAB Blizzard, and has the ability to outspeed Exeggutor and put it to sleep with Lovely Kiss in a lead matchup. Although it is 3HKOed by Double-Edge, Jynx works wonderfully against Exeggutor that lack the Normal-type move. Even against Double-Edge variants, Jynx can work as a good check if you predict properly. If Exeggutor takes out Jynx via Explosion, it is not all bad news, because that will prevent Exeggutor from Exploding on other Pokemon, such as Chansey or Alakazam, that are generally more useful than Jynx. Lapras is a great Exeggutor counter even though it doesn't resist Psychic; thanks to its great HP stat, Psychic is only a 4HKO. Articuno is a less common alternative to Lapras, but its STAB Blizzard is even more powerful. The other two legendary birds also work well against Exeggutor; Zapdos has a chance to 2HKO Exeggutor with Drill Peck, while Moltres's Fire Blast will always 2HKO it. Cloyster can also 2HKO Exeggutor with Blizzard, but takes over 40% from Psychic. If you have no better option, your own Exeggutor can also work as a check, being able to take many Psychics, while you wear it down with your own Psychic or Double-Edge, or threaten it with Explosion or a status move.</p>

    <p>While Gengar, Golem, and Rhydon have no business taking on Exeggutor as they are countered by it, they are useful for coming into a predicted Explosion. However, since Exeggutor can hit them very hard with its other moves, doing this is very risky if you don't guess correctly. A low health Pokemon or a sleeping Pokemon can be a good alternative to these three Normal-type resistors for switching into Exeggutor when you think your opponent might be about to use Explosion.</p>


    Nice write-up! Make sure you take a look at my changes and put extra detail in where I noted :)

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    Edited. Thanks for your GP check!
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    [Overview]


    <p>Exeggutor is one of the most common and useful Pokemon in RBY OU. While not omnipresent like Tauros, Snorlax, and Chansey, it is still an excellent addition to most OU teams. Exeggutor is easy to fit onto a team thanks to its ability to effectively fulfil many important roles. With access to Sleep Powder, Exeggutor is by far the most common sleeper-inducer in the game, and is often used as a lead. Its unique typing grants it useful resistances to Psychic-type moves <Psychic as a move is alright, but it should be mentioned that it can tank hits from Psychic-type moves> and Earthquake, and. Exeggutor is also bulky enough to make good use of these resistances <no space>. <insert space> For this reason, Exeggutor is a very effective Pokemon to effectively deal with Golem and Rhydon, and is able to take a few Psychics from the likes of Alakazam and opposing Exeggutor. In addition, a healthy Exeggutor also works as a decent answer to Snorlax and Tauros, especially if you can switch into them as they use Earthquake. While limited, Exeggutor's offenses should not be underestimated either; Exeggutor's Psychic gets STAB and comes off a 348 Special stat, and Explosion can KO Chansey or a Psychic-type trying to tank Psychic.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Standard
    move 1: Sleep Powder
    move 2: Psychic
    move 3: Explosion
    move 4: Stun Spore / Double-Edge / Mega Drain

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>Sleep Powder is Exeggutor's signature move <while sleep powder should be mentioned, it is not Exeggutor's signature move>. Thanks to its bulk and useful resistances, Exeggutor is the most reliable sleeper <I am not too sure about this phrase; sleep-inducer seems more appropriate> in the game as and it will find many opportunities to switch in and put something to sleep. Exeggutor has the ability to take hits from many common Pokemon such as Alakazam, Exeggutor, Golem, Rhydon, and Gengar, and can easily switch into Earthquakes and into Chansey as it uses Softboiled or Thunderbolt. Exeggutor can also switch into Chansey as it uses Softboiled or Thunderbolt. <long sentences are not recommended, hence I split it> Exeggutor can also afford to take Body Slams and unSTABed Ice-type moves in a pinch. However, Exeggutor is slower than the other two common sleepers <please check for sleeper>, Jynx and Gengar, which means that they will be able to put Exeggutor to sleep before it has a chance to reciprocate. For this reason, if Exeggutor is the only Pokemon with a sleep move on your team, it's a good idea to switch to another Pokemon, such as Alakazam or Starmie, to take the sleep and save Exeggutor and its Sleep Powder for later. Psychic is Exeggutor's main attacking move, and hits any non-Psychic-type Pokemon, except for Chansey, very hard. Explosion is Exeggutor's best option against Chansey and Alakazam<remove space>. <insert space> It is also very useful against other defensive Pokemon, such as Starmie and opposing Exeggutor. Explosion can also work as an emergency stop to sweepers such as Tauros, Snorlax, Slowbro, and Zapdos. Explosion is a key move in Exeggutor's moveset, since Exeggutor's role in most battles consists on of spreading status, sponging physical attacks generally from Rhydon, Golem, or Snorlax, while scaring them with Psychic, and then exploding into a wall or into an offensive threat.</p>

    <p>The are three main options for the last slot. Stun Spore is probably the most common of the three; it provides a secondary status move, allowing Exeggutor to cripple many of its common switch-ins such as Alakazam, Starmie, Jynx, Lapras, opposing Exeggutor, and even Chansey. It's also useful for the occasional matchup with Tauros during the late-game part of the battle. Double-Edge can be useful for common switch-ins with low Defense, such as Alakazam and Jynx, hitting them for around 40% damage. Double-Edge gives Exeggutor the chance to take out a paralyzed Alakazam switching into it without having to resort to Explosion, and might even be able to take out a low health Chansey as well. Double-Edge also hits opposing Exeggutor harder, but due to its recoil, and Psychic's chance to score a Special drop, this doesn't give Exeggutor much of an advantage over opposing Exeggutor but this is an inferior option to Psychic. Mega Drain makes Exeggutor an even stronger better counter to Rhydon and Golem. Mega Drain is a 3HKO on
    Starmie, so you will have to paralyze it first. Mega Drain's ability to regain HP also helps Exeggutor to stick around longer and potentially spread more status. Both attacking moves are good options against Slowbro, and help putting at low enough health to be KOed by Explosion.</p>

    [Other Options]

    <p><no space>Exeggutor is quite versatile for RBY, although it's advisable to stick to the standard set's moves. Exeggutor's bunch of resistances and its bulkiness allow it to use Rest effectively, especially when combined with paralysis support from other teammates. Hyper Beam is an offensive alternative to Double-Edge that can deal around 60% to Alakazam and Jynx and almost 50% to Chansey, making it being useful when they have been previously weakened. Leech Seed is not as useful as in newer generations, due to only draining 1/16 HP, but the HP healed against Chansey is still significant. Leech Seed and Rest is a gimmicky combination but may sometimes work out, especially when your opponent is lacking in offensive options. Reflect is another defensive move in Exeggutor's movepool, as it helps it sponge hits from powerful physical attackers, such as Tauros and Snorlax. Reflect can also be used alongside Rest, but this strategy works better on Hypno due to its lack of a weakness to Ice-type moves. In general, the moves that scare Exeggutor out come from the special side, except for Zapdos's Drill Peck, so Reflect is generally a poor move on Exeggutor. Finally, Egg Bomb is a similar move to Double-Edge, but it is not recommended due to its low accuracy.</p>

    [Checks and Counters]

    <p>Exeggutor's counters can be arranged into two main groups: the three recoverers (Chansey, Alakazam, and Starmie), and other Pokemon that can hit Exeggutor hard with super-effective moves, such as Jynx, Lapras, and Zapdos. <good intro!> However, note that none of these are sure-fire counters, since Exeggutor can put one to sleep with Sleep Powder, and use Explosion on another. It's a good idea to send one Pokemon in first to bait the sleep move to activate Sleep Clause. Good examples for this role are Alakazam, Starmie, Jynx, Exeggutor, and Gengar as long as you are careful not to switch into Psychic. However, have in mind that letting your sleeper <please check: phrase sleeper> get slept could mean that you won't be able to put anything to sleep in the future, unless you have another Pokemon able to induce said status. Alakazam and Chansey make great counters since they can easily shrug off any damage from Exeggutor's Psychic with Recover and Softboiled, respectively. Alakazam can also set up Reflect to avoid being OHKOed by Explosion, but should watch out for Double-Edge when switching in if it is paralyzed. Chansey is a riskier bet because it is generally more valuable than Alakazam, and you won't want to expose it to the threat of Explosion, but it can easily sponge Exeggutor's Psychic nonetheless. Starmie works similarly, and can outspeed Exeggutor and 3HKO it with Blizzard but hates paralysis and should also watch out for Mega Drain.</p>

    <p> Jynx is probably the best Exeggutor counter, however. Jynx resists Exeggutor's Psychic and can scare it with a 2HKO thanks to its STAB Blizzard, and has the ability to outspeed Exeggutor and put it to sleep with Lovely Kiss in a lead matchup. Although it is 3HKOed by Double-Edge, Jynx works wonderfully against Exeggutor that lack the a Normal-type move. Even against Double-Edge variants, Jynx can work as a good check if you predict properly. If Exeggutor takes out Jynx via Explosion, it is not all bad news, because that will prevent Exeggutor from Exploding on other Pokemon, such as Chansey or Alakazam, that are generally more useful than Jynx. Lapras is a great Exeggutor counter even though it doesn't resist Psychic; thanks to its great HP stat, Psychic is only a 4HKO. Articuno is a less common alternative to Lapras, but its STAB Blizzard is even more powerful. The other two legendary birds also work well against Exeggutor; Zapdos has a chance to 2HKO Exeggutor with Drill Peck, while Moltres's Fire Blast will always 2HKO it. Cloyster can also 2HKO Exeggutor with Blizzard, but takes over 40% from Psychic. If you have no better option, your own Exeggutor can also work as a check, being able to take many Psychics, while you wear it down with your own Psychic or Double-Edge, or threaten it with Explosion or a status move.</p>

    <p>While Gengar, Golem, and Rhydon have no business taking on Exeggutor as they are countered by it, they are useful for coming switching into a predicted Explosion. However, since Exeggutor can hit them very hard with its other moves, doing this is very risky if you don't guess correctly. A low health Pokemon or a sleeping Pokemon can be a good alternative to these three Normal-type resistors for switching into Exeggutor when you think your opponent might be about to use Explosion.</p>

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    Just a quick mention: I had found the word "sleeper" many parts. While it isn't grammatically incorrect, I feel that another phrase should be used, such as "sleep-inducer".

    Overall, it's a well written analysis! Keep up the good work!
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    I've come to realize that words like "sleeper" are very common in the context of the early generations and I don't see a problem with it. In DPP and BW, sleep-inducer is better, but leave sleeper in this one since it stays true to the generation.

    Edit: there are no Psychic moves BUT Psychic. No one uses Psybeam.
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    okay, gp check implemented thanks!

    anyway, kept sleeper vs sleep inducer and also kept psychic instead of psychic-type moves... Discuss

    also: (set comments 2nd para)
    this doesn't give Exeggutor much of an advantage over opposing Exeggutor but this is an inferior option to Psychic

    I kept my version because, in theory at least, d-e is still slightly better than psychic vs opposing egg.
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