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Explosion
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dwarfstar
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Methinks that's because you no longer rely on it. Nerfing Explosion was not a good idea - decrease base power, maybe, something else if everyone thinks it's so ridiculously overpowered - but that Defense cut is a problem. Every generation, Blissey gets tougher to kill. (Except for Psychic-types, but my Heatran and Magnezone are still fucked.) This is not a bitter rant - I've adapted to bypass the problem - but I still think it's wrong somehow.
All these people complaining about Blissey getting harder to kill - do you EVER carry physical sweepers? And with fighting type moves/pokes getting so popular, it's hard not to have a team with at least one poke that can take out Blissey. That's one poke I have honestly never had a problem with.
Blaziken - Hi Jump Kick
Infernape - Close Combat
Conkeldurr - lol
Machamp - lol
Breloom - Focus Punch; there are so many sub-punching Brelooms on PO that Blissey should never cause a problem
Reuniclus (with psycho shock)
Weavile - Brick Break, Night Slash , Ice Punch will all 2KO
Tyranitar - EQ
most of those pokemon with +1 atk (sp atk for Reuniclus) can OHKO Blissey. Explosion was broken, and I don't mind the change at all.
Heck, you could even troll Blissey to death with Sigilyph if you wanted
Blaziken - Hi Jump Kick
Infernape - Close Combat
Conkeldurr - lol
Machamp - lol
Breloom - Focus Punch; there are so many sub-punching Brelooms on PO that Blissey should never cause a problem
Reuniclus (with psycho shock)
Weavile - Brick Break, Night Slash , Ice Punch will all 2KO
Tyranitar - EQ
most of those pokemon with +1 atk (sp atk for Reuniclus) can OHKO Blissey. Explosion was broken, and I don't mind the change at all.
Heck, you could even troll Blissey to death with Sigilyph if you wanted
Why non-STAB EQ when you could be Crunching, Superpowering, or Stone Edging?
Anyway, as sad as it is, I run Explosion on Gigalith; off that Attack stat it still demolishes things. As has been said, TR Bronzong could use it for the free switch-in too.
Why is everyone complaining about Explosion being nerfed? It's still the most powerful move in the game, and can severely cripple, if not KO, almost anything that doesn't resist it.
The nerf is huge. A super-effective STAB move or a 'double STAB' (either due to weather effect or Ability) oftentimes out-damages Explosion. I would have preferred reverting back to the RBY base power (Selfdestruct - 260, Explosion - 340). It's not as destructive as 400 / 500 Self-KO moves, but it has considerable power, enough to distinguish itself from high-powered non-self-KO moves that exist in BW.
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I dunno if it's worth using in the long run...especially for the nerf in this Gen.
Besides, there are many ways to kill a rat, besides blowing up.
I agree it could be a last resort, but your opponent might be tricky and smart.
Maybe this picture will help you understand... :p
Besides, there are many ways to kill a rat, besides blowing up.
I agree it could be a last resort, but your opponent might be tricky and smart.
Maybe this picture will help you understand... :p
I never noticed a difference... Most Special Attackers using Explosion never seemed to OHKO my bulky monsters, even without resistance in Gen IV. Although, I'm gonna miss my Exploding Azelf not being able to KO Blissey, but at least I still have other members for that. Plus most Explosions I used were more to just dent something and then switch in a counter.
Why are so many people complaining of Blissey? I use Mixnite and it OHKOs Bold Max HP Max Def Blisseys with Superpower... Pretty much ANY mixed attacker stops Blissey.
Plus Psyshock. Although I think that won't help if Blissey T-waves after the first hit. (which is what I'm still seeing nowadays).
Why are so many people complaining of Blissey? I use Mixnite and it OHKOs Bold Max HP Max Def Blisseys with Superpower... Pretty much ANY mixed attacker stops Blissey.
Plus Psyshock. Although I think that won't help if Blissey T-waves after the first hit. (which is what I'm still seeing nowadays).
Explosion can be good. Whenever I run it, I am either running Heatran or Azelf. For Heatran, I use it to bait out Blissey and Chansey. Explosion will leave a large dent in them and then they can be easily revenged. On Azelf, it is pretty good because it can do more than 50% and a pokemon, given its high base attack.
When everything is said though, Explosion isn't that good in Gen V. Also it sucks because it got majorly nerfed -_-
When everything is said though, Explosion isn't that good in Gen V. Also it sucks because it got majorly nerfed -_-
Not any more after the nerf. Most Pokemon with good physical bulk or resistance to Explosion (Tyranitar, Scizor, Excadrill...) can switch in on a move with effective 125 BP and tank the hit. On the other hand, Azelf dies. I guess it does provide you with some momentum, but U-Turning on the switch-in also provides momentum without Azelf dying.
Also posting to say that Forretress has better things to do than Explode. Volt Switch anyone?
QFT.
Idk what qtf means, but vol switch is good because it keeps fortress alive longer, and as he has great physical bulk, he can help in walling physical attacker, at least a few, anyways. Explosion is still really strong, just because it isn't as strong as it was in gen IV doesn't make it weak. And as for switching in resistances, prediction.
QFT = "Quoted for truth"
qft
It still has 250 pwr. Okay, it doesn't KO pokemon that resist it- moves are supposed to KO pokemon that resist them. That's the whole point of resists. *eyeroll*
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