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faster than u (peaked #7)

Discussion in 'BW Other Teams' started by Othesemo, Oct 6, 2013.

  1. Othesemo

    Othesemo

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    Introduction

    I won’t lie- this is a joke team. We all know the metagame is pretty fast right now- a few nights ago, I got exasperated and decided to throw together a team that was even faster. My only rule was that I was not allowed to use any pokemon with a base speed below 100. I expected it to be an amusing distraction before switching back to a real team- instead, I found myself winning game after game, and against good players. A few hours ago, I ended up hitting #7 on the ladder with an ACRE of 2047- a personal best, and from a team I made in under 10 minutes at that.

    Peak (open)
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    By Order of Speed


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    Miltank @ Leftovers
    Trait: Scrappy
    EVs: 4 Atk / 252 HP / 252 SDef
    Nature: Careful
    • Heal Bell
    • Milk Drink
    • Stealth Rock
    • Body Slam

    Speed: 236

    Weighing in at an uninvested base 100, Miltank is by far the slowest member of the team. Nonetheless, she plays an important role- for starters, she’s the only legal user of Stealth Rock available to me. Second, since my team is dedicated to outspeeding the opponent, paralysis absolutely sucks. Between Heal Bell and Stealth Rock, Miltank more than pulls her weight.

    I chose to use Scrappy over Thick Fat because, unlike with most of my other teams, stuff like Charizard and Jynx can’t really do much to me. Sub Haunter can, however, and dealing with one of those thing with a free turn of set up is a complete pain in the ass. The added utility of being able to paralyze Missy, Golurk and Drifblim is just gravy.



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    Simipour @ Flying Gem
    Trait: Torrent
    EVs: 252 Spd / 252 Atk / 4 Def
    Nature: Jolly
    • Substitute
    • Acrobatics
    • Waterfall
    • Endeavor

    Speed: 331

    I love this set- I really do. Sweet Jesus posted it I don’t know how long ago in the Next Best Thing thread, and I just tried it out for the first time with this team. When I said earlier that Jynx and Charizard can’t hurt me, this is the reason why- with a nice, trollish speed of 101, Simipour can actually outspeed both of them and KO with Acrobatics and Waterfall, respectively. This set also lures in stuff like Jynx and Roselia that expect a Hydro Pump and KOs them with ease. It gets better, though- if your opponent tries switching in a wall that can actually deal with your attacks, just sub on down to 1% and hit them with a nasty Endeavor, basically eliminating them from the match. With good matchups against some of the premier offensive and defensive threats in NU, Simipour is an incredibly underrated force and one of the team’s star players.



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    Kadabra @ Focus Sash
    Trait: Magic Guard
    EVs: 252 Spd / 252 SAtk / 4 HP
    Nature: Timid
    • Psychic
    • Signal Beam
    • Hidden Power [Ground]
    • Encore

    Speed: 339

    because fuck assist

    Seriously, though, Kadabra is a super versatile and effective mon. Apart from being the perfect emergency button when you’re getting swept by [anything], it can also stall break with its immunity to residual damage and Encore or stop set up sweepers with the same. It’s also no slouch offensively, with a Psychic stronger than Scarf Jynx’s and perfect neutral coverage except for Shedinja. The lack of Thunderbolt or STAB Ice Beam is a pain, since Mandibuzz can switch in without much risk, but team mates can manage that. Especially since (poison type) spikers are all over the tier right now, a fast Psychic type that hazards can’t touch is a great thing to have.



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    Scolipede @ Life Orb
    Trait: Swarm
    EVs: 252 Spd / 252 Atk / 4 Def
    Nature: Jolly
    • Spikes
    • Swords Dance
    • Megahorn
    • Aqua Tail

    Speed: 355

    Everybody knows it- Scolipede is boss. It’s an awesome spikestacker and sweeper in one, and (in my opinion) the single most defining pokemon in the metagame. It’s also fast as hell, so it was basically a shoe-in. Even though I don’t actually set up spikes very often, it’s good to have the option, and Scolipede can sweep just fine with its awesome two move coverage. Anyhow, I can’t understate how awesome STAB Megahorn has been on the ladder, from fucking over Musharna to fucking over Jynx to fucking over- really- just about everything slower than max speed Scolipede.



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    Serperior @ Leftovers
    Trait: Overgrow
    EVs: 252 Spd / 252 HP / 4 SAtk
    Nature: Timid
    • Taunt
    • Leech Seed
    • Giga Drain
    • Glare

    Speed: 356

    tbh, I really don’t like Calm Mind Serperior. Hits like a pussy without a few turns of set up, and gets completely screwed over by most scarfers and pretty much all birds. Wallbreaker Serp, on the other hand, is just awesome. The combination of Taunt, Leech Seed and Giga Drain can wear down pretty much any defensive poke in the tier bar grass types. This guy is my go to for all the annoying stuff like Musharna that the rest of my team can’t handle. We don’t want anything that’s a dead weight against offense, of course, but Serperior also gets the semi exclusive Glare. Along with Miltank, Serperior basically makes sure that I outspeed everything on the opponent’s team, and if I don’t, I can paralyze it. Also, with max investment in HP, Serperior is a bulky mofo, doing cool stuff like taking Scarf Jynx’s Ice Beam if it’s at full health.



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    Charizard @ Choice Scarf
    Trait: Blaze
    EVs: 252 Spd / 252 SAtk / 4 Def
    Nature: Timid
    • Fire Blast
    • Flamethrower
    • Air Slash
    • Focus Blast

    Speed: 492

    ScarfZard = BestZard. Apart from outspeeding fucking everything without breaking a sweat, Zard also brings a really cool- and often unprepared for- fire STAB to the table. It can clean with Flamethrower, Wallbreak with Fire Blast and Focus Blast, and flinch shit to death with Air Slash. Also, pretty much nobody expects him to be scarfed for some reason, so you can net some easy KOs against stuff that thinks it can outspeed (nothing feels better than roasting a Scarf Jynx that imagines that 1 HP is somehow a liability). Speaking of which, whoever says that SR breaks Zard has clearly never felt the wrath of Blaze boosted Fire Blasts. With only a bit of prior damage, fuckin’ Lickilicky can’t switch in. And when the fattest pink blob NU has to offer can’t take 2 hits, you know you’re in trouble- particularly when you probably can’t outspeed, either.

    Also, the question that everyone wants answered-

    How does this team fare against assist spam?

    Pretty well, all things considered. Everything on the team can break Liepard’s subs, and thanks to the combo of Focus Sash and Signal Beam, Kadabra can beat sub-less Liepard 1 on 1 as long as you don’t get flinched with Dark Pulse. Unfortunately, once Miltank is switched in, there’s not much you can do to keep SR from going up. Still, as long as you can avoid letting Kadabra get tricked or thieved you should be good. It helps that he can OHKO both Shiftry and Arbok.

    Also, Serperior’s taunt is awesome here, since once Drifblim’s tricked his Scarf away you can outspeed everything except Ditto and shut them down.


    Replays

    For those who want to see the team in action, these are probably my two best games going up the ladder-

    http://pokemonshowdown.com/replay/nucurrent-54896834

    http://pokemonshowdown.com/replay/nucurrent-54888125

    Also, since I was talking about AssisstPard earlier, http://pokemonshowdown.com/replay/nucurrent-54874079


    Shout Outs

    To FLCL for being the only one to actually beat me with AssisstPard, out of ~5 matches against it.

    To Sweet Jesus for the awesome Simipour set.

    To NeverUsedTier for the awesome Serperior set.

    And the NU community in general, for being pretty low on assholes compared to a lot of other sites I’ve visited.



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    Miltank (F) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Scrappy
    EVs: 4 Atk / 252 HP / 252 SDef
    Careful Nature
    - Heal Bell
    - Milk Drink
    - Stealth Rock
    - Body Slam

    Simipour @ Flying Gem
    Trait: Torrent
    EVs: 252 Spd / 252 Atk / 4 Def
    Jolly Nature
    - Substitute
    - Acrobatics
    - Waterfall
    - Endeavor

    Kadabra @ Focus Sash
    Trait: Magic Guard
    EVs: 252 Spd / 252 SAtk / 4 HP
    Timid Nature
    - Psychic
    - Signal Beam
    - Hidden Power [Ground]
    - Encore

    Scolipede @ Life Orb
    Trait: Swarm
    EVs: 252 Spd / 252 Atk / 4 Def
    Jolly Nature
    - Spikes
    - Swords Dance
    - Megahorn
    - Aqua Tail

    Serperior @ Leftovers
    Trait: Overgrow
    EVs: 252 Spd / 252 HP / 4 SAtk
    Timid Nature
    - Taunt
    - Leech Seed
    - Giga Drain
    - Glare

    Charizard @ Choice Scarf
    Trait: Blaze
    EVs: 252 Spd / 252 SAtk / 4 Def
    Timid Nature
    - Fire Blast
    - Flamethrower
    - Air Slash
    - Focus Blast
    Last edited: Oct 6, 2013
  2. Dell

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    Hey there.

    Electric-types, notably Rotom-S and Rotom-F are able to pick this team apart as you have no good way of stopping them from consistently breaking it down with repeated Volt Switches, as well as secondary STABs that can be used to especially threaten Serperior. That said, if you want to still go by your theme upon the team, I would suggest that you give perhaps Life Orb Zebstrika a try. It has pretty much the same moveset as its known Scarf variant, but the added power and ability to switch moves can help you deal with the likes of Jynx and Roselia just as well, with Lightningrod to discourage opposing Electric-types from spamming Volt Switch. In addition, I don't really find Simipour's niche to really carve out especially well for the team when you have several ways of beating Jynx and Roselia already. I feel that while Endeavor is interesting, having some backbone against offensive teams that rely on Volt Switch for momentum can really help you on the long run, as well as giving you the ability to create momentum yourself with Zebstrika.
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  3. Hollywood

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    The biggest problem with this team is that it has nothing to take on offensive Normal- and Flying-types. In particular, Swellow can pretty easily 6-0, especially if paired with a slow pivot like Eelektross or Probopass. The only things that your team has to handle Swellow are ScarfZard and Kadabra, which are really easy to play around, especially with Quick Attack to pick off weakened Zard and U-turn to break Kadabra's Sash. I realize that you wanted your whole team to be fast, but honestly, this change will make your team much better and synergizes well with your very fast team because it is slower. I recommend using Probopass over Miltank, as it can beat Swellow and most Electric-types. (Dell pointed out that weakness, and it's a legitimate one. The only Electric-type it really doesn't want to take on is mixed or Band Eelektross, which is slow enough that the rest of your team can manage it fine.) It also takes on every Ghost-type bar Golurk, which Serperior usually handles pretty well. Miltank is easily the most replaceable teammate, and Probopass fulfills its same role bar Heal Bell which you don't need anyways. With Probopass, you also get a slow pivot that can bring in your faster, frailer teammates for free. You also only have Simipour (which dies in the process) and Charizard to take on Steel-types, so Probopass's ability to trap them will give Scolipede and co. a much easier time later in the match.

    [​IMG]Probopass @ Leftovers | Ability: Magnet Pull
    160 HP / 252 SpA / 96 Spe | Modest Nature
    Stealth Rock / Volt Switch / Power Gem / Earth Power

    Congrats on your peak, and hopefully this change will help your team out a lot.

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