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Feraligatr [GP 2/2]

Discussion in 'Uploaded Analyses' started by Honko, Dec 16, 2011.

  1. Honko

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    Beast. More people should use Feraligatr, especially SD. I'm sure someone will try to convince me that DD should be the first set, but that person is wrong.

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    [Overview]

    <p>If you're looking for a physical sweeper, you've come to the right page. With two excellent setup options in Swords Dance and Dragon Dance, Feraligatr is one of the most dangerous Pokemon in RU. Its movepool contains all the physical attacks it needs to succeed, including a STAB priority attack in Aqua Jet that makes it extremely difficult to revenge kill once it sets up. To top it all off, Feraligatr's defenses are quite impressive for an offensive Pokemon; attacks that would KO frailer sweepers such as Kabutops and Sceptile will often simply push Feraligatr into Torrent range, making it even more powerful. A middling base 78 Speed and low Base Power STAB moves keep it from being truly unstoppable, but Feraligatr is still easily one of the best Pokemon in the tier and a great choice for anyone who wants to crush some skulls.</p>

    [SET]
    name: GATR TIME
    move 1: Swords Dance
    move 2: Aqua Jet
    move 3: Waterfall
    move 4: Return / Crunch
    item: Life Orb
    nature: Adamant
    evs: 56 HP / 252 Atk / 200 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>It's Gatr Time! Swords Dance turns Feraligatr into an absolute juggernaut that can both crush walls and wipe out sweepers with ease. Grab that boost at the right moment and then watch with pride as Feraligatr tears the opponent's team apart in just a few turns. With a little bit of residual damage, Aqua Jet OHKOes most of the fast, frail Pokemon that outspeed Feraligatr, including Rotom, Accelgor, Manectric, and Primeape. Meanwhile, Waterfall easily 2HKOes any wall that doesn't resist it, and Feraligatr's solid natural bulk allows it to take a hit from most defensive Pokemon and carry on sweeping. In fact, opponents who try to wear Feraligatr down with weak attacks often hasten their own demise by bringing it into Torrent range; three Torrent-boosted hits from +2 Feraligatr will often translate into three quick KOs. Return is generally the best coverage option, as it hits every common Pokemon that resists Water neutrally, barring Ferroseed. Crunch is also a worthy option for super effective coverage against foes like Slowking and Cofagrigus that could otherwise survive any of Feraligatr's attacks and cripple it with status or powerful special attacks. However, Poliwrath completely walls Feraligatr without Return, and the lower Base Power of Crunch makes it harder for Feraligatr to get past other bulky Pokemon that resist Water, such as Lanturn and Druddigon.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>Feraligatr sits immediately below the base 80 Speed tier, which means there isn't much benefit to maximizing its Speed. Instead, the best strategy is to fully invest in Attack with an Adamant nature and rely on Aqua Jet to take down faster foes. 200 Speed EVs allow Feraligatr to beat Adamant Honchkrow, but note that this is a common benchmark for Pokemon such as Hitmonchan and opposing Feraligatr, so throwing in a few extra Speed EVs might be worth your while. Invest the remaining EVs in HP to bolster Feraligatr's above-average bulk.</p>

    <p>Feraligatr absolutely needs entry hazard support to sweep consistently. Rotom, Manectric, and Galvantula can survive a +2 Aqua Jet from full health and OHKO Feraligatr with their STAB Electric-type attacks, but a single round of Stealth Rock damage turns Aqua Jet into an OHKO on all of them. You will also need to eliminate the opponent's Grass-types before attempting to sweep. Sceptile is physically frail, so Feraligatr can deal with it reasonably well by hitting it with an unboosted Return for 70-80% on the switch, putting it in KO range for a +2 Aqua Jet later in the match. However, bulkier Grass-types, such as Tangrowth, Rotom-C, and Ferroseed, will have to be handled by Feraligatr's teammates. Entei can drive these Pokemon away with Flare Blitz, and Bouffalant can switch in on their STAB moves for a free Attack boost. Alternatively, you can use a lure such as Choice Specs Lanturn to draw in and OHKO Grass-types with Ice Beam or Hidden Power Fire. Once the entry hazards are set up and the Grass-types are out of the way, send Feraligatr in and enjoy the massacre.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Dragon Dance
    move 1: Dragon Dance
    move 2: Waterfall
    move 3: Ice Punch
    move 4: Earthquake / Crunch
    item: Life Orb
    nature: Jolly / Adamant
    evs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>Dragon Dance sweepers are a rare sight in RU, primarily because all of the best Pokemon with access to such a powerful setup move are perched in higher tiers. For the most part, those that have fallen to RU are poor sweepers that lack sufficient power (Altaria and Dragonair), Speed (Crawdaunt and Shelgon), or both (Whiscash). Feraligatr is the exception to this rule; a single Dragon Dance gives it enough power to OHKO most offensive Pokemon and enough Speed to beat virtually every unboosted Pokemon in the tier. Unfortunately, a +1 Attack boost isn't enough for Feraligatr to break through RU's sturdiest walls, and most Choice Scarf users will outspeed it even after a Dragon Dance, so this Feraligatr is generally easier to stop than the Swords Dance variant. On the other hand, the Speed boost and additional coverage this set brings to the table help Feraligatr defeat some of its most common switch-ins, and it is still a capable sweeper, especially if it can grab a second boost.</p>

    <p>Waterfall is the STAB move of choice thanks to its perfect accuracy, respectable Base Power, and handy flinch rate. Ice Punch covers Grass- and Dragon-types, allowing Feraligatr to beat some of the best counters to its Swords Dance set; after a Dragon Dance, Feraligatr outspeeds and OHKOes Sceptile, Lilligant, and Rotom-C with Ice Punch. In the last slot, Earthquake offers the best overall coverage, OHKOing Lanturn and Drapion, 2HKOing Qwilfish through Intimidate, and hitting Slowking, Poliwrath, and Ferroseed for neutral damage. However, Crunch is a notable alternative for extra power against Ghost- and Psychic-types such as Cofagrigus, Slowking, and Uxie, which can ruin Feraligatr's sweep with paralysis or a burn.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>A simple offensive EV spread is the way to go, but choosing the best nature is more difficult. Jolly Feraligatr reaches 420 Speed after a boost, putting it ahead of neutral-natured Choice Scarf users with base 90 Speed or less, such as Modest Moltres, Modest Rotom-C, and Adamant Medicham, as well as every unboosted Pokemon not named Accelgor or Ninjask. While that extra Speed can potentially save Feraligatr from being revenge killed, trying to figure out mid-battle which nature your opponent chose for his Choice Scarf Rotom-C is a dangerous game that you should avoid playing whenever possible. Opting for an Adamant nature sidesteps the guessing game entirely; you give up any shot at outspeeding most Choice Scarf users (and Aerodactyl), but the extra power nets some additional OHKOs against Pokemon that would barely survive a +1 attack from Jolly Feraligatr, including bulky Gallade, bulky Rotom-C, Scolipede, Claydol, and Druddigon.</p>

    <p>As was alluded to earlier, there are several Pokemon that can easily prevent Feraligatr from sweeping. Choice Scarf Electric-types are the quickest answer; Manectric, Galvantula, and Timid Rotom-C will always outspeed a boosted Feraligatr and can OHKO it with their STAB moves, although they can't safely switch into its attacks. A Ground-type such as Gligar or Steelix can help shut them down. Poliwrath can take a hit and phaze Feraligatr with Circle Throw, while Quagsire ignores Feraligatr's boosts and can stall it out with Toxic and Recover, so a Grass-type attacking partner such as Sceptile or Rotom-C is a good teammate. Feraligatr also has no chance of getting past Tangrowth or Ferroseed on its own, so you would be wise to bring a powerful Fire-type, such as Entei or Moltres. Life Orb Manectric is a particularly nice partner for Feraligatr, as its Lightningrod ability allows it to switch in on Thunderbolt or Volt Switch for a free power boost, and it can take out Poliwrath, Quagsire, and Tangrowth with Thunderbolt, Hidden Power Grass, and Flamethrower, respectively.</p>

    [Other Options]

    <p>Like any offensive Pokemon, Feraligatr can use Substitute to block status and set up in the face of defensive Pokemon such as Ferroseed and RestTalk Poliwrath. The problem is that the recoil damage from Substitute and Life Orb together cut Feraligatr's lifespan dramatically. Switching Feraligatr's item to Leftovers would help counteract Substitute's HP cost, but Feraligatr relies heavily on Life Orb for its KOs; without that extra power, it would rarely be able to sweep without gathering multiple boosts. Lum Berry is another option to protect Feraligatr from status, but Life Orb is simply more reliable if you want to sweep.</p>

    <p>Aqua Tail is a slightly more powerful STAB attack, but Waterfall's perfect accuracy and useful flinch rate are hard to pass up. Superpower is Feraligatr's best option against Ferroseed, but its stat-reducing effect makes it a poor option on a boosting sweeper. Superpower would fit nicely on a Choice Band set, though, along with Waterfall, Aqua Jet, and Ice Punch or Crunch. Rock Slide and Dragon Claw round out Feraligatr's physical movepool, but they don't offer any significant additional coverage. If you're tired of Tangrowth ruining Feraligatr's sweeps, Ice Beam will always 2HKO it, even with a Special Attack-hindering nature. Venturing into the land of the insane, a Choice Specs set would be a fantastic lure for Tangrowth, and Choice Specs Hydro Pump is statistically Feraligatr's strongest viable unboosted attack thanks to its high Base Power. Feraligatr has the bulk and typing to be a passable defensive bulky Water-type, but its support movepool is limited to Toxic, Dragon Tail, and Roar, and it lacks the excellent secondary typing and ability that Pokemon such as Slowking, Qwilfish, Lanturn, and Quagsire enjoy. Stick to using Feraligatr as a deadly physical sweeper; anything else would be a waste.</p>

    [Checks and Counters]

    <p>Tangrowth is the ultimate answer to Feraligatr. Even a +1 Ice Punch will never 2HKO Tangrowth, whereas Tangrowth always OHKOes Feraligatr with Power Whip after Stealth Rock and Life Orb recoil, or 2HKOes with Giga Drain while recovering most of its HP. Quagsire ignores Feraligatr's boosts thanks to Unaware and takes a maximum of 39% from Waterfall, so it can easily stall Feraligatr out with Toxic and Recover. Ferroseed takes little from any of Feraligatr's attacks even after a boost, and it can cripple Dragon Dance sets with Thunder Wave while siphoning Feraligatr's HP with Leech Seed. Poliwrath is immune to Waterfall and resists Ice Punch and Crunch, so it can take a hit and phaze Feraligatr with Circle Throw. Faster Grass-types such as Sceptile, Lilligant, and Rotom-C are all good switch-ins to Swords Dance sets, while Choice Scarf users with super effective STAB attacks can take out Dragon Dance versions with ease.</p>

    [Unreleased]

    <p>Sheer Force will be an incredible upgrade; the 30% power boost to key attacks such as Waterfall, Ice Punch, and Crunch will make Feraligatr nearly impossible to wall. Unfortunately, this will probably result in Feraligatr being promoted to a higher tier, so enjoy Gatr Time while you can!</p>
  2. Cherub Agent

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    Mabye I'm being dumb, but what does SD Feraligatr have over SD Samurott? The attack difference is minimal, and Samurott has the excellent Megahorn.

    I know you said that DD shouldn't be the first set, but I've simply found it distinguishes Feraligatr more. It may not be as powerful as DD Crawdaunt, but it's not a slow bugger after the DD. Lol sorry that last part may seem a little unclear.
    Thoughts?
  3. scienceguy

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    You could have aqua jet on the dragon dance set, breed aqua jet onto a dratini, level up to dragon dance, then breed both onto totodile. It misses out on ice punch though if you take aqua jet though
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    @Cherub Agent: Feraligatr is faster and yet has roughly the same amount of bulk. There's enough difference to use Feraligatr over Samurott. Plus, Swords Dance is a much bigger threat than Dragon Dance against more teams. Dragon Dance has a much harder time breaking through walls and cannot deal with faster scarfers; Swords Dance doesn't have as much difficulty. It deserves the first spot.
  5. Honko

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    Higher Attack, higher Speed, more physical and special bulk (when uninvested). Megahorn is very cool, but it also has 85% accuracy and leaves Samurott open to being completely walled by Qwilfish and Poliwrath and burned by Cofagrigus and Dusknoir. SD Feraligatr is certainly not outclassed. And even if it was outclassed, it's a very effective set that would deserve an analysis anyway.

    DD is a good set but it's not that hard to revenge kill or take a hit and KO back (or do enough damage that 1 or 2 LO recoils finishes it off). I've rarely been able to actually sweep with it. SD on the other hand has won me a lot of matches. SD also has more utility as a revenge killer even if you can't set up, something DD can't do. SD is superior.
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    Looks good, great mon.

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  8. Honko

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    Thanks Texas, and welcome to the team!
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    Hi. This is my first post here and I'm sorry if my english isn't good enough.

    Well, to the point.
    First, Feraligatr now CAN have Dragon Dance AND Aqua Jet in the same set thanks to Dragonite. That's why Nite have now the chance to learn Aqua Jet by breeding and Dragon Dance by Level Up.


    But that's isn't the important thing; well. I see that you claim a lot about "Feraligatr can't have its Egg Moves with Sheer Force". But he don't need it.

    Feraligatr (M) @ Life Orb
    Trait: Sheer Force
    EV's: 216 Atk, 224 SAtk, 68 Spd
    Naughty Nature (+Atk, -SDef)
    - Agility
    - Crunch / Rock Slide
    - Ice Beam
    - Waterfall


    209 of Speed, after Agility 418. More than 90s Positive Scarfed. Ice Beam destroys Tangrowth an Sceptile, also Crunch 2HKO Slowbro. Actually, Crunch is OHKO against Starmie after Stealth Rock. Waterfall has raw power. Also it can use Focus Blast if Ferroseed is a trouble.

    I know my english isn't too good, but; I think you can understand it.
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    ^starmie is OU
  12. Honko

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    This boss is finally written. Note that I removed the SubDD set. I used it a few times back in Round 2, and while it was decent enough, I think the lack of power makes it inferior to the normal DD set (which in turn is mostly inferior to the SD set). I also haven't seen anyone else use it EVER. If someone else uses it and has success and wants to write it up, be my guest, but I don't think it's worth it.

    Also GATR TIME is pretty much the RU-community-accepted name for the SD set at this point (see: here and here and here), so that's what I'm calling it. If anyone tries to change it I'll feed you to my pet alligator.

    GP away!
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    [Overview]

    <p>If you're looking for a physical sweeper, you've come to the right page place. With two excellent set up setup options in Swords Dance and Dragon Dance, Feraligatr is one of the most dangerous Pokemon in RU. Its movepool contains all the physical attacks it needs to succeed, including a STAB priority attack in Aqua Jet that makes it extremely difficult to revenge kill once it sets up. To top it all off, Feraligatr's defenses are quite impressive for an offensive Pokemon; attacks that would KO frailer sweepers such as Kabutops and Sceptile will often simply push Feraligatr into Torrent range, making it even more powerful. A middling base 78 base Speed and the low Base Power of its STAB moves keep it from being truly unstoppable, but Feraligatr is still easily one of the best Pokemon in the tier and a great choice for anyone who wants to crush some skulls.</p>

    [SET]
    name: GATR TIME
    move 1: Swords Dance
    move 2: Aqua Jet
    move 3: Waterfall
    move 4: Return / Crunch
    item: Life Orb
    ability: Torrent
    nature: Adamant
    evs: 56 HP / 252 Atk / 200 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>It's Gatr Time! Swords Dance turns Feraligatr into an absolute juggernaut that can both crash through crush walls and wipe out sweepers with ease. Grab that boost at the right moment and then watch with pride as Feraligatr tears the opponent's team apart in just a few turns. With a little bit of residual damage, Aqua Jet OHKOes most of the fast, frail Pokemon that outspeed Feraligatr, including Rotom, Accelgor, Manectric, and Primeape. Meanwhile, Waterfall easily 2HKOes any wall that doesn't resist it, and Feraligatr's solid natural bulk allows it to take a hit from most defensive Pokemon and carry on sweeping. In fact, opponents who try to wear Feraligatr down with weak attacks often hasten their own demise by bringing it into Torrent range; three Torrent-boosted hits from +2 Feraligatr will often translate into three quick KOs. Return is generally the best coverage option, as it hits every common Pokemon that resists Waterexcept Ferroseedneutrally. Crunch is also a worthy option for super effective coverage against foes like such as Slowking and Cofagrigus,(comma) which that could otherwise survive any of Feraligatr's attacks and cripple it with status or powerful special attacks. However, Poliwrath completely walls Feraligatr without Return, and Crunch's the lower Base Power of Crunch makes it harder for Feraligatr to get past other bulky Pokemon that resist Water, such as Lanturn and Druddigon.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>Feraligatr sits immediately below the base 80 Speed tier, which means there isn't much benefit to maximizing its Speed. Instead, the best strategy is to invest fully in Attack with an Adamant nature and rely on Aqua Jet to take down faster foes. 200 Speed EVs allow Feraligatr to beat Adamant Honchkrow, but note that this is a common benchmark for Pokemon such as Hitmonchan and opposing Feraligatr, so throwing in a few extra Speed EVs might be worth your while. Invest the remaining EVs in HP to bolster Feraligatr's above-average bulk.</p>

    <p>Feraligatr absolutely needs entry hazard support to sweep consistently. Rotom, Manectric, and Galvantula can survive a +2 Aqua Jet from full health and OHKO Feraligatr with their STAB Electric-type attacks, but a single round of Stealth Rock damage turns Aqua Jet into an enables Aqua Jet to OHKO on all of them. You will also need to eliminate the opponent's Grass-types before attempting to sweep. Sceptile is physically frail, so Feraligatr can deal with it reasonably well by hitting it with an unboosted Return for 70-80% on the switch, which putting it in KO range for a subsequent +2 Aqua Jet later. However, bulkier Grass-types,(comma) such as Tangrowth, Rotom-C, and Ferroseed,(comma) will have to be handled by Feraligatr's teammates. Entei can drive these Pokemon away with Flare Blitz, and Bouffalant can switch in on their STAB moves for a free Attack boost. Alternatively, you can use a lure,(comma) such as Choice Specs Lanturn,(comma) to draw in and OHKO Grass-types with Ice Beam or Hidden Power Fire. Once the entry hazards are set up and the Grass-types are out of the way, send Feraligatr in and enjoy the massacre.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Dragon Dance
    move 1: Dragon Dance
    move 2: Waterfall
    move 3: Ice Punch
    move 4: Earthquake / Crunch
    item: Life Orb
    ability: Torrent
    nature: Jolly / Adamant
    evs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>Dragon Dance sweepers are a rare sight in RU, primarily because all of the best Pokemon with access to such a powerful set-up setup move are perched in higher tiers. For the most part, those that have fallen to RU are poor sweepers that lack sufficient power (Altaria and Dragonair), Speed (Crawdaunt and Shelgon), or both (Whiscash). Feraligatr is the exception to this rule; a single Dragon Dance gives it enough power to OHKO most offensive Pokemon and enough Speed to beat virtually every unboosted Pokemon in the tier. Unfortunately, a +1 Attack boost isn't enough for Feraligatr to break through RU's sturdiest walls, and most Choice Scarf users will outspeed it even after a Dragon Dance, so this Feraligatr is generally easier to stop than the Swords Dance version. On the other hand, the Speed boost and additional coverage this set brings to the table help Feraligatr defeat some of its most common switch-ins, and it is still a capable sweeper, especially if it can grab a second boost.</p>

    <p>Waterfall is the STAB move of choice thanks to its perfect accuracy, respectable Base Power, and handy flinch rate. Ice Punch covers Grass- and Dragon-types, allowing Feraligatr to beat some of the best counters to its Swords Dance set; after a Dragon Dance, Feraligatr outspeeds and OHKOes Sceptile, Lilligant, and Rotom-C with Ice Punch. In the last slot, Earthquake offers the best overall coverage, OHKOing Lanturn and Drapion, 2HKOing Qwilfish through Intimidate, and hitting Slowking, Poliwrath, and Ferroseed for neutral damage. However, Crunch is a notable alternative for extra power against Ghost- and Psychic-types such as Cofagrigus, Slowking, and Uxie,(comma) which that can ruin Feraligatr's sweep with paralysis or a burn.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>A simple offensive EV spread is the way to go, but choosing the best a nature is more difficult. Jolly Feraligatr reaches 420 Speed after a boost, putting it ahead of neutral-natured Choice Scarf users with base 90 base Speed or less, such as Modest Moltres, Modest Rotom-C, and Adamant Medicham, as well as every unboosted Pokemon not named Accelgor or Ninjask. While that extra Speed can potentially save Feraligatr from being revenge killed, trying to figure out mid-battle which nature your opponent chose for their his Choice Scarf Rotom-C is a dangerous game that you should avoid playing or "is dangerous and should be avoided" whenever possible. Opting for an Adamant nature sidesteps the guessing game entirely; you give up any shot at outspeeding most Choice Scarf users (and Aerodactyl), but the extra power reaps some additional OHKOs against Pokemon that would barely survive a +1 attack from Jolly Feraligatr, including bulky Gallade, bulky Rotom-C, Scolipede, Claydol, and Druddigon.</p>

    <p>As was hinted at or "was alluded to" earlier, there are several Pokemon that can easily prevent Feraligatr from sweeping. Choice Scarf Electric-types are the quickest answer; Manectric, Galvantula, and Timid Rotom-C will always outspeed a boosted Feraligatr even after a boost and can OHKO it with their STAB moves, although they must be careful not to switch into an attack cannot exactly switch into its attacks. A Ground-type such as Gligar or Steelix can help shut them down. Poliwrath can take a hit and phaze Feraligatr with Circle Throw, while Quagsire ignores Feraligatr's boosts and can stall it out with Toxic and Recover, so a Grass-type attacking partner,(comma) such as Sceptile or Rotom-C,(comma) is a good teammate. Feraligatr also has no chance of getting past Tangrowth or Ferroseed on its own, so you would be wise to bring a powerful Fire-type,(comma) such as Entei or Moltres. Life Orb Manectric is a particularly nice partner for Feraligatr, as its Lightningrod ability allows it to switch in on Thunderbolt or Volt Switch for a free power boost, and it can take out Poliwrath, Quagsire, and Tangrowth with Thunderbolt, Hidden Power Grass, and Flamethrower, respectively.</p>

    [Other Options]

    <p>Like any offensive Pokemon, Feraligatr can use Substitute to block status and set up in the face of Pokemon such as Ferroseed and RestTalk Poliwrath. The problem is that the recoil damage from Substitute and Life Orb together cut Feraligatr's lifespan dramatically. Switching Feraligatr's item to Leftovers would help counteract Substitute's HP cost, but Feraligatr relies heavily on Life Orb for its KOs; without that power boost, it would rarely be able to sweep without multiple turns to set up "multiple boosts"?. Lum Berry is another option to protect Feraligatr from status, but Life Orb is simply more reliable if you want to sweep.</p>

    <p>Aqua Tail is a slightly more powerful STAB attack, but Waterfall's perfect accuracy and useful flinch rate are hard to pass up. Superpower is Feraligatr's best option against Ferroseed, but its stat-reducing effect makes it a poor option on a boosting sweeper. Superpower would fit nicely on a Choice Band set, though, along with Waterfall, Aqua Jet, and Ice Punch or Crunch. Rock Slide and Dragon Claw round out Feraligatr's physical movepool, but they don't offer any significant additional coverage. If you're tired of Tangrowth ruining Feraligatr's sweeps, Ice Beam will always 2HKO it, even with a nature that reduces Special Attack-hindering nature. Venturing into the land of the insane, a Choice Specs set would be a fantastic lure for Tangrowth, and Choice Specs Hydro Pump is statistically Feraligatr's strongest viable unboosted attack thanks to its high Base Power. Feraligatr has the bulk and typing to be a passable defensive bulky Water-type, but its support movepool is limited to Toxic, Dragon Tail, and Roar, and it lacks the excellent secondary typing and ability of Pokemon such as Slowking, Qwilfish, Lanturn, and Quagsire have / enjoy. Stick to using Feraligatr as a deadly physical sweeper; anything else would be a waste.</p>

    [Checks and Counters]

    <p>Tangrowth is the ultimate answer to Feraligatr. Even a +1 Ice Punch will never 2HKO Tangrowth, whereas Tangrowth always OHKOes Feraligatr with Power Whip after Stealth Rock and Life Orb recoil,(comma) or 2HKOes with Giga Drain while recovering most of its HP. Quagsire ignores Feraligatr's boosts thanks to Unaware and takes a maximum of 39% from Waterfall, so it can easily stall Feraligatr out with Toxic and Recover. Ferroseed takes little from any of Feraligatr's attacks even after a boost, and it can cripple Dragon Dance sets with Thunder Wave while siphoning Feraligatr's HP with Leech Seed. Poliwrath is immune to Waterfall and resists Ice Punch and Crunch, so it can take a hit and phaze Feraligatr with Circle Throw. Faster Grass-types such as Sceptile, Lilligant, and Rotom-C are all good switch-ins to Swords Dance sets, while Choice Scarf users with super effective STAB attacks can take out Dragon Dance versions with ease.</p>

    [Unreleased]

    <p>Sheer Force will be an incredible upgrade,(comma) as the 30% power boost to key attacks such as Waterfall, Ice Punch, and Crunch will make Feraligatr nearly impossible to wall. Unfortunately, this will probably result in a promotion Feraligatr being promoted to a higher tier, so enjoy Gatr Time while you can!</p>


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  14. Honko

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    Thanks sirn!

    One thing, though...
    "like" is actually acceptable here, because I'm not simply listing examples; instead, "like Slowking and Cofagrigus" is a descriptor for "foes", specifying the type of foes you want Crunch for. Your changed sentence would still be correct, but it would slightly change the meaning. I don't like overusing "such as" because it gets pretty repetitive to read, and in this case "like" is fine grammatically, so I'm leaving it.

    Ready for the next check.
  15. Mafeking

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    honko!!!!!!!!!!!

    okay I'm doing this now are we friends again

    Edits (open)
    [Overview]

    <p>If you're looking for a physical sweeper, you've come to the right page. With two excellent setup options in Swords Dance and Dragon Dance, Feraligatr is one of the most dangerous Pokemon in RU. Its movepool contains all the physical attacks it needs to succeed, including a STAB priority attack in Aqua Jet that makes it extremely difficult to revenge kill once it sets up. To top it all off, Feraligatr's defenses are quite impressive for an offensive Pokemon; attacks that would KO frailer sweepers such as Kabutops and Sceptile will often simply push Feraligatr into Torrent range, making it even more powerful. A middling base 78 Speed and low Base Power STAB moves keep it from being truly unstoppable, but Feraligatr is still easily one of the best Pokemon in the tier and a great choice for anyone who wants to crush some skulls.</p>

    [SET]
    name: GATR TIME <I approve of this set name A++>
    move 1: Swords Dance
    move 2: Aqua Jet
    move 3: Waterfall
    move 4: Return / Crunch
    item: Life Orb
    nature: Adamant
    evs: 56 HP / 252 Atk / 200 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>It's Gatr Time! Swords Dance turns Feraligatr into an absolute juggernaut that can both crush walls and wipe out sweepers with ease. Grab that boost at the right moment and then watch with pride as Feraligatr tears the opponent's team apart in just a few turns. With a little bit of residual damage, Aqua Jet OHKOes most of the fast, frail Pokemon that outspeed Feraligatr, including Rotom, Accelgor, Manectric, and Primeape. Meanwhile, Waterfall easily 2HKOes any wall that doesn't resist it, and Feraligatr's solid natural bulk allows it to take a hit from most defensive Pokemon and carry on sweeping. In fact, opponents who try to wear Feraligatr down with weak attacks often hasten their own demise by bringing it into Torrent range; three Torrent-boosted hits from +2 Feraligatr will often translate into three quick KOs. Return is generally the best coverage option, as it hits every common Pokemon that resists Water except Ferroseed neutrally (neutrally, barring Ferroseed). Crunch is also a worthy option for super effective coverage against foes like Slowking and Cofagrigus that could otherwise survive any of Feraligatr's attacks and cripple it with status or powerful special attacks. However, Poliwrath completely walls Feraligatr without Return, and the lower Base Power of Crunch makes it harder for Feraligatr to get past other bulky Pokemon that resist Water, such as Lanturn and Druddigon.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>Feraligatr sits immediately below the base 80 Speed tier, which means there isn't much benefit to maximizing its Speed. Instead, the best strategy is to (fully) invest fully in Attack with an Adamant nature and rely on Aqua Jet to take down faster foes. 200 Speed EVs allow Feraligatr to beat Adamant Honchkrow, but note that this is a common benchmark for Pokemon such as Hitmonchan and opposing Feraligatr, so throwing in a few extra Speed EVs might be worth your while. Invest the remaining EVs in HP to bolster Feraligatr's above-average bulk.</p>

    <p>Feraligatr absolutely needs entry hazard support to sweep consistently. Rotom, Manectric, and Galvantula can survive a +2 Aqua Jet from full health and OHKO Feraligatr with their STAB Electric-type attacks, but a single round of Stealth Rock damage turns Aqua Jet into an OHKO on all of them. You will also need to eliminate the opponent's Grass-types before attempting to sweep. Sceptile is physically frail, so Feraligatr can deal with it reasonably well by hitting it with an unboosted Return for 70-80% on the switch, putting it in KO range for a +2 Aqua Jet later in the match. However, bulkier Grass-types, such as Tangrowth, Rotom-C, and Ferroseed, will have to be handled by Feraligatr's teammates. Entei can drive these Pokemon away with Flare Blitz, and Bouffalant can switch in on their STAB moves for a free Attack boost. Alternatively, you can use a lure like (such as) <specific example, so there <3 > Choice Specs Lanturn to draw in and OHKO Grass-types with Ice Beam or Hidden Power Fire. Once the entry hazards are set up and the Grass-types are out of the way, send Feraligatr in and enjoy the massacre.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Dragon Dance
    move 1: Dragon Dance
    move 2: Waterfall
    move 3: Ice Punch
    move 4: Earthquake / Crunch
    item: Life Orb
    nature: Jolly / Adamant
    evs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>Dragon Dance sweepers are a rare sight in RU, primarily because all of the best Pokemon with access to such a powerful setup move are perched in higher tiers. For the most part, those that have fallen to RU are poor sweepers that lack sufficient power (Altaria and Dragonair), Speed (Crawdaunt and Shelgon), or both (Whiscash). Feraligatr is the exception to this rule; a single Dragon Dance gives it enough power to OHKO most offensive Pokemon and enough Speed to beat virtually every unboosted Pokemon in the tier. Unfortunately, a +1 Attack boost isn't enough for Feraligatr to break through RU's sturdiest walls, and most Choice Scarf users will outspeed it even after a Dragon Dance, so this Feraligatr is generally easier to stop than the Swords Dance version (variant). On the other hand, the Speed boost and additional coverage this set brings to the table help Feraligatr defeat some of its most common switch-ins, and it is still a capable sweeper, especially if it can grab a second boost.</p>

    <p>Waterfall is the STAB move of choice thanks to its perfect accuracy, respectable Base Power, and handy flinch rate. Ice Punch covers Grass- and Dragon-types, allowing Feraligatr to beat some of the best counters to its Swords Dance set; after a Dragon Dance, Feraligatr outspeeds and OHKOes Sceptile, Lilligant, and Rotom-C with Ice Punch. In the last slot, Earthquake offers the best overall coverage, OHKOing Lanturn and Drapion, 2HKOing Qwilfish through Intimidate, and hitting Slowking, Poliwrath, and Ferroseed for neutral damage. However, Crunch is a notable alternative for extra power against Ghost- and Psychic-types such as Cofagrigus, Slowking, and Uxie, which (who) can ruin Feraligatr's sweep with paralysis or a burn.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>A simple offensive EV spread is the way to go, but choosing the best nature is more difficult. Jolly Feraligatr reaches 420 Speed after a boost, putting it ahead of neutral-natured Choice Scarf users with base 90 Speed or less, such as Modest Moltres, Modest Rotom-C, and Adamant Medicham, as well as every unboosted Pokemon not named Accelgor or Ninjask. While that extra Speed can potentially save Feraligatr from being revenge killed, trying to figure out mid-battle which nature your opponent chose for his Choice Scarf Rotom-C is a dangerous game that you should avoid playing whenever possible. Opting for an Adamant nature sidesteps the guessing game entirely; you give up any shot at outspeeding most Choice Scarf users (and Aerodactyl), but the extra power reaps (nets) some additional OHKOs against Pokemon that would barely survive a +1 attack from Jolly Feraligatr, including bulky Gallade, bulky Rotom-C, Scolipede, Claydol, and Druddigon.</p>

    <p>As was alluded to earlier, there are several Pokemon that can easily prevent Feraligatr from sweeping. Choice Scarf Electric-types are the quickest answer; Manectric, Galvantula, and Timid Rotom-C will always outspeed a boosted Feraligatr and can OHKO it with their STAB moves, although they can't safely switch into its attacks. A Ground-type such as Gligar or Steelix can help shut them down. Poliwrath can take a hit and phaze Feraligatr with Circle Throw, while Quagsire ignores Feraligatr's boosts and can stall it out with Toxic and Recover, so a Grass-type attacking partner such as Sceptile or Rotom-C is a good teammate. Feraligatr also has no chance of getting past Tangrowth or Ferroseed on its own, so you would be wise to bring a powerful Fire-type, such as Entei or Moltres. Life Orb Manectric is a particularly nice partner for Feraligatr, as its Lightningrod ability allows it to switch in on Thunderbolt or Volt Switch for a free power boost, and it can take out Poliwrath, Quagsire, and Tangrowth with Thunderbolt, Hidden Power Grass, and Flamethrower, respectively.</p>

    [Other Options]

    <p>Like any offensive Pokemon, Feraligatr can use Substitute to block status and set up in the face of defensive Pokemon such as Ferroseed and RestTalk Poliwrath. The problem is that the recoil damage from Substitute and Life Orb together cut Feraligatr's lifespan dramatically. Switching Feraligatr's item to Leftovers would help counteract Substitute's HP cost, but Feraligatr relies heavily on Life Orb for its KOs; without that extra power, it would rarely be able to sweep without gathering multiple boosts. Lum Berry is another option to protect Feraligatr from status, but Life Orb is simply more reliable if you want to sweep.</p>

    <p>Aqua Tail is a slightly more powerful STAB attack, but Waterfall's perfect accuracy and useful flinch rate are hard to pass up. Superpower is Feraligatr's best option against Ferroseed, but its stat-reducing effect makes it a poor option on a boosting sweeper. Superpower would fit nicely on a Choice Band set, though, along with Waterfall, Aqua Jet, and Ice Punch or Crunch. Rock Slide and Dragon Claw round out Feraligatr's physical movepool, but they don't offer any significant additional coverage. If you're tired of Tangrowth ruining Feraligatr's sweeps, Ice Beam will always 2HKO it, even with a Special Attack-hindering nature. Venturing into the land of the insane, a Choice Specs set would be a fantastic lure for Tangrowth, and Choice Specs Hydro Pump is statistically Feraligatr's strongest viable unboosted attack thanks to its high Base Power. Feraligatr has the bulk and typing to be a passable defensive bulky Water-type, but its support movepool is limited to Toxic, Dragon Tail, and Roar, and it lacks the excellent secondary typing and ability that Pokemon such as Slowking, Qwilfish, Lanturn, and Quagsire enjoy. Stick to using Feraligatr as a deadly physical sweeper; anything else would be a waste.</p>

    [Checks and Counters]

    <p>Tangrowth is the ultimate answer to Feraligatr. Even a +1 Ice Punch will never 2HKO Tangrowth, whereas Tangrowth always OHKOes Feraligatr with Power Whip after Stealth Rock and Life Orb recoil, or 2HKOes with Giga Drain while recovering most of its HP. Quagsire ignores Feraligatr's boosts thanks to Unaware and takes a maximum of 39% from Waterfall, so it can easily stall Feraligatr out with Toxic and Recover. Ferroseed takes little from any of Feraligatr's attacks even after a boost, and it can cripple Dragon Dance sets with Thunder Wave while siphoning Feraligatr's HP with Leech Seed. Poliwrath is immune to Waterfall and resists Ice Punch and Crunch, so it can take a hit and phaze Feraligatr with Circle Throw. Faster Grass-types such as Sceptile, Lilligant, and Rotom-C are all good switch-ins to Swords Dance sets, while Choice Scarf users with super effective STAB attacks can take out Dragon Dance versions with ease.</p>

    [Unreleased]

    <p>Sheer Force will be an incredible upgrade; the 30% power boost to key attacks such as Waterfall, Ice Punch, and Crunch will make Feraligatr nearly impossible to wall. Unfortunately, this will probably result in Feraligatr being promoted to a higher tier, so enjoy Gatr Time while you can!</p>


    Coffee/Pastry (open)
    [Overview]

    <p>If you're looking for a physical sweeper, you've come to the right page. With two excellent setup options in Swords Dance and Dragon Dance, Feraligatr is one of the most dangerous Pokemon in RU. Its movepool contains all the physical attacks it needs to succeed, including a STAB priority attack in Aqua Jet that makes it extremely difficult to revenge kill once it sets up. To top it all off, Feraligatr's defenses are quite impressive for an offensive Pokemon; attacks that would KO frailer sweepers such as Kabutops and Sceptile will often simply push Feraligatr into Torrent range, making it even more powerful. A middling base 78 Speed and low Base Power STAB moves keep it from being truly unstoppable, but Feraligatr is still easily one of the best Pokemon in the tier and a great choice for anyone who wants to crush some skulls.</p>

    [SET]
    name: GATR TIME
    move 1: Swords Dance
    move 2: Aqua Jet
    move 3: Waterfall
    move 4: Return / Crunch
    item: Life Orb
    nature: Adamant
    evs: 56 HP / 252 Atk / 200 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>It's Gatr Time! Swords Dance turns Feraligatr into an absolute juggernaut that can both crush walls and wipe out sweepers with ease. Grab that boost at the right moment and then watch with pride as Feraligatr tears the opponent's team apart in just a few turns. With a little bit of residual damage, Aqua Jet OHKOes most of the fast, frail Pokemon that outspeed Feraligatr, including Rotom, Accelgor, Manectric, and Primeape. Meanwhile, Waterfall easily 2HKOes any wall that doesn't resist it, and Feraligatr's solid natural bulk allows it to take a hit from most defensive Pokemon and carry on sweeping. In fact, opponents who try to wear Feraligatr down with weak attacks often hasten their own demise by bringing it into Torrent range; three Torrent-boosted hits from +2 Feraligatr will often translate into three quick KOs. Return is generally the best coverage option, as it hits every common Pokemon that resists Water neutrally, barring Ferroseed. Crunch is also a worthy option for super effective coverage against foes like Slowking and Cofagrigus that could otherwise survive any of Feraligatr's attacks and cripple it with status or powerful special attacks. However, Poliwrath completely walls Feraligatr without Return, and the lower Base Power of Crunch makes it harder for Feraligatr to get past other bulky Pokemon that resist Water, such as Lanturn and Druddigon.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>Feraligatr sits immediately below the base 80 Speed tier, which means there isn't much benefit to maximizing its Speed. Instead, the best strategy is to fully invest in Attack with an Adamant nature and rely on Aqua Jet to take down faster foes. 200 Speed EVs allow Feraligatr to beat Adamant Honchkrow, but note that this is a common benchmark for Pokemon such as Hitmonchan and opposing Feraligatr, so throwing in a few extra Speed EVs might be worth your while. Invest the remaining EVs in HP to bolster Feraligatr's above-average bulk.</p>

    <p>Feraligatr absolutely needs entry hazard support to sweep consistently. Rotom, Manectric, and Galvantula can survive a +2 Aqua Jet from full health and OHKO Feraligatr with their STAB Electric-type attacks, but a single round of Stealth Rock damage turns Aqua Jet into an OHKO on all of them. You will also need to eliminate the opponent's Grass-types before attempting to sweep. Sceptile is physically frail, so Feraligatr can deal with it reasonably well by hitting it with an unboosted Return for 70-80% on the switch, putting it in KO range for a +2 Aqua Jet later in the match. However, bulkier Grass-types, such as Tangrowth, Rotom-C, and Ferroseed, will have to be handled by Feraligatr's teammates. Entei can drive these Pokemon away with Flare Blitz, and Bouffalant can switch in on their STAB moves for a free Attack boost. Alternatively, you can use a lure such as Choice Specs Lanturn to draw in and OHKO Grass-types with Ice Beam or Hidden Power Fire. Once the entry hazards are set up and the Grass-types are out of the way, send Feraligatr in and enjoy the massacre.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Dragon Dance
    move 1: Dragon Dance
    move 2: Waterfall
    move 3: Ice Punch
    move 4: Earthquake / Crunch
    item: Life Orb
    nature: Jolly / Adamant
    evs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>Dragon Dance sweepers are a rare sight in RU, primarily because all of the best Pokemon with access to such a powerful setup move are perched in higher tiers. For the most part, those that have fallen to RU are poor sweepers that lack sufficient power (Altaria and Dragonair), Speed (Crawdaunt and Shelgon), or both (Whiscash). Feraligatr is the exception to this rule; a single Dragon Dance gives it enough power to OHKO most offensive Pokemon and enough Speed to beat virtually every unboosted Pokemon in the tier. Unfortunately, a +1 Attack boost isn't enough for Feraligatr to break through RU's sturdiest walls, and most Choice Scarf users will outspeed it even after a Dragon Dance, so this Feraligatr is generally easier to stop than the Swords Dance variant. On the other hand, the Speed boost and additional coverage this set brings to the table help Feraligatr defeat some of its most common switch-ins, and it is still a capable sweeper, especially if it can grab a second boost.</p>

    <p>Waterfall is the STAB move of choice thanks to its perfect accuracy, respectable Base Power, and handy flinch rate. Ice Punch covers Grass- and Dragon-types, allowing Feraligatr to beat some of the best counters to its Swords Dance set; after a Dragon Dance, Feraligatr outspeeds and OHKOes Sceptile, Lilligant, and Rotom-C with Ice Punch. In the last slot, Earthquake offers the best overall coverage, OHKOing Lanturn and Drapion, 2HKOing Qwilfish through Intimidate, and hitting Slowking, Poliwrath, and Ferroseed for neutral damage. However, Crunch is a notable alternative for extra power against Ghost- and Psychic-types such as Cofagrigus, Slowking, and Uxie, who can ruin Feraligatr's sweep with paralysis or a burn.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>A simple offensive EV spread is the way to go, but choosing the best nature is more difficult. Jolly Feraligatr reaches 420 Speed after a boost, putting it ahead of neutral-natured Choice Scarf users with base 90 Speed or less, such as Modest Moltres, Modest Rotom-C, and Adamant Medicham, as well as every unboosted Pokemon not named Accelgor or Ninjask. While that extra Speed can potentially save Feraligatr from being revenge killed, trying to figure out mid-battle which nature your opponent chose for his Choice Scarf Rotom-C is a dangerous game that you should avoid playing whenever possible. Opting for an Adamant nature sidesteps the guessing game entirely; you give up any shot at outspeeding most Choice Scarf users (and Aerodactyl), but the extra power nets some additional OHKOs against Pokemon that would barely survive a +1 attack from Jolly Feraligatr, including bulky Gallade, bulky Rotom-C, Scolipede, Claydol, and Druddigon.</p>

    <p>As was alluded to earlier, there are several Pokemon that can easily prevent Feraligatr from sweeping. Choice Scarf Electric-types are the quickest answer; Manectric, Galvantula, and Timid Rotom-C will always outspeed a boosted Feraligatr and can OHKO it with their STAB moves, although they can't safely switch into its attacks. A Ground-type such as Gligar or Steelix can help shut them down. Poliwrath can take a hit and phaze Feraligatr with Circle Throw, while Quagsire ignores Feraligatr's boosts and can stall it out with Toxic and Recover, so a Grass-type attacking partner such as Sceptile or Rotom-C is a good teammate. Feraligatr also has no chance of getting past Tangrowth or Ferroseed on its own, so you would be wise to bring a powerful Fire-type, such as Entei or Moltres. Life Orb Manectric is a particularly nice partner for Feraligatr, as its Lightningrod ability allows it to switch in on Thunderbolt or Volt Switch for a free power boost, and it can take out Poliwrath, Quagsire, and Tangrowth with Thunderbolt, Hidden Power Grass, and Flamethrower, respectively.</p>

    [Other Options]

    <p>Like any offensive Pokemon, Feraligatr can use Substitute to block status and set up in the face of defensive Pokemon such as Ferroseed and RestTalk Poliwrath. The problem is that the recoil damage from Substitute and Life Orb together cut Feraligatr's lifespan dramatically. Switching Feraligatr's item to Leftovers would help counteract Substitute's HP cost, but Feraligatr relies heavily on Life Orb for its KOs; without that extra power, it would rarely be able to sweep without gathering multiple boosts. Lum Berry is another option to protect Feraligatr from status, but Life Orb is simply more reliable if you want to sweep.</p>

    <p>Aqua Tail is a slightly more powerful STAB attack, but Waterfall's perfect accuracy and useful flinch rate are hard to pass up. Superpower is Feraligatr's best option against Ferroseed, but its stat-reducing effect makes it a poor option on a boosting sweeper. Superpower would fit nicely on a Choice Band set though, along with Waterfall, Aqua Jet, and Ice Punch or Crunch. Rock Slide and Dragon Claw round out Feraligatr's physical movepool, but they don't offer any significant additional coverage. If you're tired of Tangrowth ruining Feraligatr's sweeps, Ice Beam will always 2HKO it, even with a Special Attack-hindering nature. Venturing into the land of the insane, a Choice Specs set would be a fantastic lure for Tangrowth, and Choice Specs Hydro Pump is statistically Feraligatr's strongest viable unboosted attack thanks to its high Base Power. Feraligatr has the bulk and typing to be a passable defensive bulky Water-type, but its support movepool is limited to Toxic, Dragon Tail, and Roar, and it lacks the excellent secondary typing and ability that Pokemon such as Slowking, Qwilfish, Lanturn, and Quagsire enjoy. Stick to using Feraligatr as a deadly physical sweeper; anything else would be a waste.</p>

    [Checks and Counters]

    <p>Tangrowth is the ultimate answer to Feraligatr. Even a +1 Ice Punch will never 2HKO Tangrowth, whereas Tangrowth always OHKOes Feraligatr with Power Whip after Stealth Rock and Life Orb recoil, or 2HKOes with Giga Drain while recovering most of its HP. Quagsire ignores Feraligatr's boosts thanks to Unaware and takes a maximum of 39% from Waterfall, so it can easily stall Feraligatr out with Toxic and Recover. Ferroseed takes little from any of Feraligatr's attacks even after a boost, and it can cripple Dragon Dance sets with Thunder Wave while siphoning Feraligatr's HP with Leech Seed. Poliwrath is immune to Waterfall and resists Ice Punch and Crunch, so it can take a hit and phaze Feraligatr with Circle Throw. Faster Grass-types such as Sceptile, Lilligant, and Rotom-C are all good switch-ins to Swords Dance sets, while Choice Scarf users with super effective STAB attacks can take out Dragon Dance versions with ease.</p>

    [Unreleased]

    <p>Sheer Force will be an incredible upgrade; the 30% power boost to key attacks such as Waterfall, Ice Punch, and Crunch will make Feraligatr nearly impossible to wall. Unfortunately, this will probably result in Feraligatr being promoted to a higher tier, so enjoy Gatr Time while you can!</p>


    Ugh, between the two of you this was ridiculous. :I

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  16. Honko

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    i give that check a B

    for Bestfriendsforever

    Done, lets get this bad boy on site finally.
  17. Iconic

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    your wish is my command

    good stuff honko!

    edit: really nicely written, a pleasure to look over

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