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Feraligatr

Discussion in 'Dream World' started by jap killa, Mar 13, 2012.

  1. jap killa

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    HP:85
    Atk:105
    Def:100
    SpA:79
    SpD:83
    Spe:78
    Ever since it's introduction introduction in G/S, Feraligatr has been shunned to UU and RU because of it's mediocre stats, and being outclassed by other sweepers such as Gyarados. However, the dream world brought Feraligatr an amazing gift in the ability Sheer Force. Sheer force grants an amazing boosts to some of Feraligatr's moves, such as Waterfall, Ice punch, and Crunch. It also negates life orb recoil. Feraligatr's impressive base 105 attack and decent 85/100/83 defensive stats keep it from being revenge killed to easily. However, Feraligatr is relatively slow, even after a Dragon dance, and wont hit too hard either. Despite these shortcomings, Feraligatr can perform greatly on any team, especially rain.

    Dragon Dance

    Feraligatr
    Item:Life Orb
    Trait: Sheer Force
    EVs: 28 HP / 252 Atk / 228 Spd
    Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
    - Dragon Dance
    - Waterfall
    - Ice Punch
    - Crunch/Superpower

    This is the standard Feraligatr set. After a single dragon dance boost, Feraligatr reaches 463 attack and enough speed to outspeed base 120's, such as Alakazam and Dugtrio. Waterfall is an insanely powerful move in the rain, always scoring the 2HKO on Skarmory, the premier physical wall of OU. Ice punch is for grass and dragon types that resist Waterfall, and Also receives the sheer force boost. The last moveslot is up for grabs, Crunch can help provide super effective damage on pokemon such as jellicent and slowbro, and it receives the boost from sheer force. The famous Water/ Dark/ Ice coverage also performs very well in the dream world. Superpower can be chosen as an option to help from being walled by empoleon and keldeo, but the attack drop is counterproductive to the Dragon dance, and the defense drop leaves Feraligatr open to revenge killing by breloom. Also, those threats are 2HKOd after a couple of boosts by waterfall anyways.

    Team Options & Additional Comments >>>
    Feraligatr works best in the rain, so drizzle support provided by Politoed is much appreciated. Dual screens support is also appreciated to make it easier for Feraligatr to set up. This can be provided by Espeon, who can also prevent hazards from crippling Feraligatr. Feraligatr also appreciates hazard support, which can be provided by Ferrothorn, who has great synergy with Feraligatr in the Rain.


    Swords Dance

    Feraligatr
    Item:Life Orb
    Trait: Sheer Force
    EVs: 60 HP / 252 Atk / 196 Spd
    Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - Swords Dance
    - Aqua Jet
    - Waterfall / Return
    - Ice Punch

    This Feraligatr functions as more of a wall breaker, or late game sweeper. Swords dance and Aqua jet are the crux of this set. Swords dance boosts Feraligatr's attack to insane levels, while aqua jet circumvents the lack of speed investment to take out low health pokes. Waterfall is the main option on this set, receiving the sheer force boost and STAB, along with rain boost (if available) while return can be used instead if you want to have a way to get past bulky waters, such as Slowbro. Ice punch is chosen to take out grass types that resist it's STAB water moves, such as Virizion or Roserade.
    The EV's are set to outspeed standard bulky base 100's with 16 speed EV's, while Attack is maxed out for maximum power, and the rest are dumped into HP to compliment it's decent bulk.

    Team Options & Additional Comments >>>
    As with the first set, Feraligatr loves rain support, as it powers up it's STAB moves greatly, making Politoed the prime option fora teammate. This set is also walled by bulky waters, such as vaporen, so Strong electric attackers, such as raikou can help eliminate them for a sweep. Raikou also can be a great teammate on a rain team, absorbing electric attacks and retaliating with STAB thunder.


    Other Options:
    Feraligatr can attempt to run a bulky dragon dance set, but without significant attack and speed investment, it wont be hitting hard even after a couple of boosts. A choice scarf set can be run consisting of Waterfall Ice Punch Crunch and Return, but it sorely misses the power from life orb. Rock slide deserves a mention, as it receives the sheer force boost and has the ability to OHKO Gyarados at +1, who can be troublesome. Earthquake is also an option, however it doesn't offer too much more coverage.

    I encourage you all to try out Feraligatr, it is sure to become a huge threat in the metagame. If you guys have any suggestions, or your own set you would like included in the analysis, please post! Thanks for reading!
  2. GARCHOMPZILLA

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    rock slide probably needs at least OO, last time I checked it gets 126 base power and can OHKO gyrados after one DD.
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    See my analysis for what Feraligatr is good at doing in the DW metagame.
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    Feraligatr can be a beast given the right support, and I really like him. His ability to take down Excadrill if he can get a boost somehow is beautiful for rain teams, and I want to see more usage not only in DW OU, but BW OU as well. Torrent isn't THAT bad.
  5. jap killa

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    Hey dude sorry, I had no idea that existed. But I guess this will remind people how good feraligatr can be in the rain. And also torrent isn't that good, because the lack of sheer force boost and recoil from life orb severely limit feraligatr
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    Don't worry bro, shrang's just linking to his analysis, this thread is a discussion thread, they are completely different, so feel free to continue to discuss things about Feraligatr :)

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