Finneon (Analysis) [GP 2/2]

[Overview]

<p>Finneon is, overall, a decent Pokemon with average stats, moves, and typing. It can run a Choice Scarf set, since it has U-turn—a move that most other Water-types do not have access to. It has access to a decent physical and special movepool, as well as a cool ability in Storm Drain, which was buffed since DPP, as it now provides a Special Attack boost whenever it's hit by a Water-type attack. Its other ability, Swift Swim, also makes Finneon a capable user of Rain Dance.*Unfortunately, it is mostly outclassed by Chinchou, which has a STAB Volt Switch to work with.*All in all, Finneon is an average offensive Pokemon that would've liked a way to stand apart from Chinchou.</p>

[SET]
name: Choice Scarf
move 1: Surf
move 2: U-turn
move 3: Ice Beam
move 4: Hidden Power Electric / Hidden Power Grass / Hidden Power Fire
item: Choice Scarf
ability: Storm Drain
nature: Naive
evs: 44 Atk / 208 SpA / 28 SpD / 228 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>Despite Finneon's relatively low Special Attack, it still has a decent amount of Speed to work with, giving it the ability to run an efficient Choice Scarf set. Surf is Finneon's best option for a STAB attack, as it is very reliable and is backed*up by a good amount of power. U-turn is what makes this set stand out, though, since it is one of the two Water-type Pokemon in Little Cup with access to the move—the other being Wingull. Ice Beam hits Grass-types for big damage, and will most likely do more than U-turn. The last moveslot is dedicated to Hidden Power. Many options are available,*depending on what is the most threatening to the rest of the team. Hidden Power Electric allows Finneon to attain BoltBeam coverage, which is resisted by only a handful of Pokemon in Little Cup. Hidden Power Grass hits Chinchou for big damage, as well as most other Water-types. Finally, Hidden Power Fire allows Finneon to get a super effective hit on Ferroseed and Snover. Choice Scarf allows Finneon to hit 24 Speed, which ties with Choice Scarf Chinchou. Storm Drain is another trait that Finneon can boast to help it stand out from other Water-types, since it can boost its Special Attack without having to waste a move, as well giving it a great immunity to Water-type attacks.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>The EVs are designed to maximize Special Attack and Speed, while adding another point to Attack and Special Defense. However, it should be noted that the EVs in Special Defense should be moved to Attack, Special Attack, and Speed in order to account for the drop in IVs if using Hidden Power Grass or Hidden Power Fire. Good partners for this set are Pokemon who*can easily take out Chinchou and*a Pokemon who*can take most of Finneon's attacks with ease. Examples of Pokemon*who*are good at sponging Chinchou's attacks are Munchlax and Lileep, as well as Wynaut—a Pokemon who*can guarantee a KO with Mirror Coat, given that Chinchou doesn't have Volt Switch. Pokemon who*can easily KO Munchlax are also helpful, and Fighting-types such as*Scraggy and Mienfoo are two of the finest examples. A Grass-type, if Finneon does not have Hidden Power Grass, is also important to take out the uncommon Wooper, who ignores Special Attack boosts thanks to Unaware.</p>

[SET]
name: Rain Dance
move 1: Rain Dance
move 2: Aqua Tail / Waterfall
move 3: Hidden Power Grass / Ice Beam
move 4: Return / U-turn
item: Damp Rock / Life Orb
ability: Swift Swim
nature: Naive
evs: 204 Atk / 48 SpA / 28 SpD / 228 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>Though this set may seem outclassed by Mantyke, there is one thing that sets Finneon apart from it—its Speed. Since it can hit a Speed of over 30 with maximum investment and a positive nature, it does not have to worry about Choice Scarf Voltorb, Elekid, and Diglett. Aqua Tail is a good physical STAB attack that inflicts decent amount of damage on most threats, but Waterfall is a more accurate option,*at the cost of a little attack power. Hidden Power Grass is for other Water-types, namely Chinchou, while Ice Beam hits Grass-types super effectively. Return is a good move to use alongside Water-type attacks, since the combination only loses to Frillish, but U-turn is a valid option in order to switch to another Rain Dance sweeper. Damp Rock is preferred since it extends the duration of Rain Dance, but Life Orb can also be used in order to boost Finneon's attacks.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>Bulkier Rain Dance supporters are good teammates, as this set is attempting to perform a sweep. Bronzor and Chinchou are premier supporters, since they are naturally bulky and don't have to run Oran Berry or Eviolite to sponge hits. Pokemon that can remove auto-weather Pokemon such as Snover and Hippopotas are good counters. Bronzor is once again a solid partner since it can take out Snover with Flash Cannon, while Hippopotas loses to Mantyke or Finneon itself.</p>

[Other Options]

<p>Finneon has quite a lot of other*support*moves; Safeguard is a nice move that prevents the other team from*inflicting*status for five turns, which is good for offensive teams that despise burn*and paralysis.*Aqua Ring gives Finneon a way to recover health outside of Oran Berry and Leftovers, but it isn't bulky enough to use the move efficiently. Scald is another option, offering aneat chance of inflicting a burn on other Pokemon, while still getting STAB. Icy Wind is a good option to lower an opponent's Speed, potentially ruining the sweep of a Pokemon such as Elekid, who relies on its Speed.*Agility is another option for Finneon to boost its Speed, and it can still run Hidden Power Fire for Ferroseed. The combination of Soak and Toxic is good for finding another way to cripple Ferroseed.</p>

<p>Finneon also has quite a few other attacking options as well. Bounce offers a nice 30% paralysis chance, although Ice Beam is a stronger move, and Bounce can be played around without difficulty. Payback is an option for Ghost-types, and is great for Frillish, who*is immune to Water- and Normal-type attacks. Hidden Power Ground is an option for*hitting*Chinchou and Croagunk, but Hidden Power Grass is generally a better attack than Hidden Power Ground.</p>

[Checks and Counters]

<p>Finneon is actually quite difficult to beat it because it can switch out with U-turn. However, there are a lot of Pokemon that can get an OHKO on it. Chinchou resists Water-type attacks and can KO with Thunderbolt. The Choice Scarf set is easily beat by Wynaut unless Finneon uses U-turn, but if it doesn't, getting a KO is elementary. The Rain Dance set loses to Choice Scarf Snover with Giga Drain, while*Ferroseed*beats it with Seed Bomb or Bullet Seed.</p>
 

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Hidden Power Grass is as good if not better than Hidden Power Electric. Basically it trades hitting Mantyke for Chinchou, which is worth it to me.

I have trouble seeing Whirlpool even being worth an OO mention. I'll let Soak stay.

Scald in OO since you have support options down there?
 

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mention soak + toxic for killing ferro

add that hp ground hits croagunk

grass > electric because chinchou > tentacool + mantyke

and maybe an eviolite set in oo, because 50/55/60 defenses with a water immunity are not at all bad

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[Overview]

<p>Finneon is, overall, a decent Pokemon with average stats, moves, and typing. It can run a Choice Scarf set, since it has U-turn - a move that most other Water-types do not have access to. Unfortunately, though, it is mostly outclassed by Chinchou, which has a STAB Volt Switch to work with. It has access to a decent physical and special movepool, as well as a cool ability in Storm Drain., (comma) which That ability was buffed from Generation IV since DPP, as it now provides a Special Attack boost whenever it's hit by a Water-type attack. Its other ability, Swift Swim, also makes Finneon a capable user of Rain Dance. All in all, Finneon is an average offensive Pokemon that would've liked a way to stand apart from Chinchou.</p>

[SET]
name: Choice Scarf
move 1: Surf
move 2: U-turn
move 3: Ice Beam
move 4: Hidden Power Electric / Hidden Power Grass / Hidden Power Fire
item: Choice Scarf
ability: Storm Drain
nature: Naive
evs: 44 Atk / 208 SpA / 28 SpD / 228 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>Despite Finneon's relatively low Special Attack, it still has a decent amount of Speed to work with, so it still has the giving it the ability to run an efficient Choice Scarf set. Surf is Finneon's best option for a STAB attack, as it is very reliable and is packed up by a good amount of power. U-turn is what makes this set stand out, though, since it is one of the two Water-type Pokemon in Little Cup with access to the move (with the other being Wingull). Ice Beam hits Grass-types for big damage, and will most likely do more than U-turn. The last moveslot is dedicated to Hidden Power, and many options are available depending on what is the most threatening to the rest of the team. Hidden Power Electric allows Finneon to attain BoltBeam coverage, which is resisted by only a handful of Pokemon in Little Cup. Hidden Power Grass hits Chinchou for big damage, as well as most other Water-types. Finally, Hidden Power Fire allows Finneon to get a super effective hit on Ferroseed and Snover. Choice Scarf allows Finneon to hit 24 Speed, which ties with Choice Scarf Chinchou. Storm Drain is another great reason to make trait that Finneon can boast to help it stand out from other Water-types, since it can boost its Special Attack without having to waste a move, as well as having giving it a great immunity to Water-type attacks.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>The EVs are designed to maximize Special Aattack Attack and Speed with 1 while adding another point to Attack and Special Defense. However, it should be noted that the EVs in Special Defense should be moved to Attack, Special Attack, and Speed in order to account for the drop in IVs if using Hidden Power Grass or Hidden Power Fire. Good partners for this set are Pokemon that can easily take out Chinchou, a Pokemon that can take most of Finneon's attacks with ease. Examples of Pokemon that are good at sponging Chinchou's attacks are Munchlax and Lileep, as well as Wynaut - a Pokemon that can guarantee a KO with Mirror Coat, given that Chinchou doesn't have Volt Switch. Pokemon that can easily KO Munchlax are also good helpful, and Fighting-types in Scraggy and Mienfoo are two of the finest examples. A Grass-type, if Finneon does not have Hidden Power Grass, is also important to take out the uncommon Wooper, who ignores Special Attack boosts thanks to Unaware.</p>

[SET]
name: Rain Dance
move 1: Rain Dance
move 2: Aqua Tail / Waterfall
move 3: Hidden Power Grass / Ice Beam
move 4: Return / U-turn
item: Damp Rock / Life Orb
ability: Swift Swim
nature: Naive
evs: 204 Atk / 48 SpA / 28 SpD / 228 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>Though this set may seem outclassed by Mantyke, there is one thing that sets Finneon apart from it - its Speed. Since it can hit a Speed of over 30 with maximum investment and a positive nature, it does not have to worry about Choice Scarf Voltorb, Elekid, and Diglett. Aqua Tail is a good physical STAB attack that inflicts decent amount of damage on most threats, but Waterfall is a more accurate option at the cost of a little attack power. Hidden Power Grass is for other Water-types, namely Chinchou, while Ice Beam hits Grass-types for coverage super effectively. Return is a good move to use alongside Water-type attacks, since the combination only loses to Frillish, but U-turn is a valid option in order to switch to another Rain Dance sweeper. For a held item, Damp Rock is preferred since it extends the duration of Rain Dance, but Life Orb can also be used in order to boost Finneon's attacks.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>Bulkier Rain Dance supporters are good teammates, if as this set is attempting to perform a sweep. Bronzor and Chinchou are premier supporters, since they are naturally bulky and don't have to run Oran Berry or Eviolite to sponge hits. In addition, Pokemon that can remove auto-weather Pokemon in Snover and Hippopotas are good counters. Bronzor is once again a solid partner since it can take out Snover with Flash Cannon, while Hippopotas loses to Mantyke or Finneon itself.</p>

[Other Options]

<p>Finneon has quite a lot of other moves in the support department. Safeguard is a nice move that prevents the other team from inlflicting status for five turns, which is good for offensive teams that despise burns and paralyses. Aqua Ring gives Finneon a way to recover health outside of Oran Berry and Leftovers, but it isn't bulky enough to use the move efficiently. Scald is another option to and it offers the neat chance of inflicting a burn on other Pokemon, while still getting STAB. Icy Wind is another good move because it can lower the Speed of another Pokemon, which can potentially ruin that Pokemon's sweeping capabilities if it relies on Speed, with an example being Elekid. Agility is another option for Finneon to boost its Speed, and it can still run Hidden Power Fire for Ferroseed. The combination of Soak and Toxic is good for finding another way to cripple Ferroseed.</p>

<p>Finneon also has quite a few other attacking options as well. Bounce is a stronger attack than Ice Beam and though it is easy to play around, a 30% chance of paralysis is never enjoyable Bounce offers a nice 30% paralysis chance, although Ice Beam is a stronger move, and Bounce can be played around without difficulty. Payback is an option for Ghost-types, and is great for Frillish since it is immune to Water- and Normal-type attacks. Hidden Power Ground is an option can be used (repetition) for Chinchou and Croagunk, but Hidden Power Grass is generally a relatively better attack than Hidden Power Ground.</p>

[Checks and Counters]

<p>Finneon is actually quite difficult to beat it because it can switch out with U-turn., (comma) however, there are a lot of Pokemon that can get an OHKO on it. Chinchou resists Water-type attacks and can KO with Thunderbolt. The Choice Scarf set is easily beat by Wynaut unless it uses U-turn, but if it doesn't, getting a KO becomes quite easily is elementary. The Rain Dance set loses to Choice Scarf Snover with Giga Drain, and Ferroseed also beats it with Seed Bomb or Bullet Seed.</p>


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[Overview]

<p>Finneon is, overall, a decent Pokemon with average stats, moves, and typing. It can run a Choice Scarf set, since it has U-turn-—(mdash, no spaces)a move that most other Water-types do not have access to. Unfortunately, though, it is mostly outclassed by Chinchou, which has a STAB Volt Switch to work with. It has access to a decent physical and special movepool, as well as a cool ability in Storm Drain, which was buffed since DPP, as it now provides a Special Attack boost whenever it's hit by a Water-type attack. Its other ability, Swift Swim, also makes Finneon a capable user of Rain Dance. Unfortunately, it is mostly outclassed by Chinchou, which has a STAB Volt Switch to work with. All in all, Finneon is an average offensive Pokemon that would've liked a way to stand apart from Chinchou.</p>

[SET]
name: Choice Scarf
move 1: Surf
move 2: U-turn
move 3: Ice Beam
move 4: Hidden Power Electric / Hidden Power Grass / Hidden Power Fire
item: Choice Scarf
ability: Storm Drain
nature: Naive
evs: 44 Atk / 208 SpA / 28 SpD / 228 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>Despite Finneon's relatively low Special Attack, it still has a decent amount of Speed to work with, giving it the ability to run an efficient Choice Scarf set. Surf is Finneon's best option for a STAB attack, as it is very reliable and is packed backed up by a good amount of power. U-turn is what makes this set stand out, though, since it is one of the two Water-type Pokemon in Little Cup with access to the move—(mdash, no parenth, no space)(with the other being Wingull). Ice Beam hits Grass-types for big damage, and will most likely do more than U-turn. The last moveslot is dedicated to Hidden Power,.(period, no comma) and Many options are available,(comma) depending on what is the most threatening to the rest of the team. Hidden Power Electric allows Finneon to attain BoltBeam coverage, which is resisted by only a handful of Pokemon in Little Cup. Hidden Power Grass hits Chinchou for big damage, as well as most other Water-types. Finally, Hidden Power Fire allows Finneon to get a super effective hit on Ferroseed and Snover. Choice Scarf allows Finneon to hit 24 Speed, which ties with Choice Scarf Chinchou. Storm Drain is another trait that Finneon can boast to help it stand out from other Water-types, since it can boost its Special Attack without having to waste a move, as well giving it a great immunity to Water-type attacks.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>The EVs are designed to maximize Special Attack and Speed,(comma) while adding another point to Attack and Special Defense. However, it should be noted that the EVs in Special Defense should be moved to Attack, Special Attack, and Speed in order to account for the drop in IVs if using Hidden Power Grass or Hidden Power Fire. Good partners for this set are Pokemon that who can easily take out Chinchou,(no comma) and a Pokemon that who can take most of Finneon's attacks with ease. Examples of Pokemon that who are good at sponging Chinchou's attacks are Munchlax and Lileep, as well as Wynaut-—(mdash, no spaces)a Pokemon that who can guarantee a KO with Mirror Coat, given that Chinchou doesn't have Volt Switch. Pokemon that who can easily KO Munchlax are also good helpful, and Fighting-types in such as Scraggy and Mienfoo are two of the finest examples. A Grass-type, if Finneon does not have Hidden Power Grass, is also important to take out the uncommon Wooper, who ignores Special Attack boosts thanks to Unaware.</p>

[SET]
name: Rain Dance
move 1: Rain Dance
move 2: Aqua Tail / Waterfall
move 3: Hidden Power Grass / Ice Beam
move 4: Return / U-turn
item: Damp Rock / Life Orb
ability: Swift Swim
nature: Naive
evs: 204 Atk / 48 SpA / 28 SpD / 228 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>Though this set may seem outclassed by Mantyke, there is one thing that sets Finneon apart from it-—(mdash, no spaces)its Speed. Since it can hit a Speed of over 30 with maximum investment and a positive nature, it does not have to worry about Choice Scarf Voltorb, Elekid, and Diglett. Aqua Tail is a good physical STAB attack that inflicts decent amount of damage on most threats, but Waterfall is a more accurate option,(comma) at the cost of a little attack power. Hidden Power Grass is for other Water-types, namely Chinchou, while Ice Beam hits Grass-types super effectively. Return is a good move to use alongside Water-type attacks, since the combination only loses to Frillish, but U-turn is a valid option in order to switch to another Rain Dance sweeper. For a held item, Damp Rock is preferred since it extends the duration of Rain Dance, but Life Orb can also be used in order to boost Finneon's attacks.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>Bulkier Rain Dance supporters are good teammates, as this set is attempting to perform a sweep. Bronzor and Chinchou are premier supporters, since they are naturally bulky and don't have to run Oran Berry or Eviolite to sponge hits. Pokemon that can remove auto-weather Pokemon in such as Snover and Hippopotas are good counters. Bronzor is once again a solid partner since it can take out Snover with Flash Cannon, while Hippopotas loses to Mantyke or Finneon itself.</p>

[Other Options]

<p>Finneon has quite a lot of other support moves;(semicolon) in the support department. Safeguard is a nice move that prevents the other team from inlflicting inflicting status for five turns, which is good for offensive teams that despise burns and paralyses. paralysis. Aqua Ring gives Finneon a way to recover health outside of Oran Berry and Leftovers, but it isn't bulky enough to use the move efficiently. Scald is another option,(comma) and it offers the offering a neat chance of inflicting a burn on other Pokemon, while still getting STAB. Icy Wind is another good move because it can lower the Speed of another Pokemon, which can potentially ruin that Pokemon's sweeping capabilities if it relies on Speed, with an example being Elekid. Icy Wind is a good option to lower an opponent's Speed, potentially ruining the sweep of a Pokemon such as Elekid, who relies on its Speed. Agility is another option for Finneon to boost its Speed, and it can still run Hidden Power Fire for Ferroseed. The combination of Soak and Toxic is good for finding another way to cripple Ferroseed.</p>

<p>Finneon also has quite a few other attacking options as well. Bounce offers a nice 30% paralysis chance, although Ice Beam is a stronger move, and Bounce can be played around without difficulty. Payback is an option for Ghost-types, and is great for Frillish,(comma) since it who is immune to Water- and Normal-type attacks. Hidden Power Ground is an option can be used (repetition; this is elDino's fix, which you didn't implement) for hitting Chinchou and Croagunk, but Hidden Power Grass is generally a better attack than Hidden Power Ground.</p>

[Checks and Counters]

<p>Finneon is actually quite difficult to beat it because it can switch out with U-turn,.(period, no comma) However, there are a lot of Pokemon that can get an OHKO on it. Chinchou resists Water-type attacks and can KO with Thunderbolt. The Choice Scarf set is easily beat by Wynaut unless it Finneon uses U-turn, but if it doesn't, getting a KO is elementary. The Rain Dance set loses to Choice Scarf Snover with Giga Drain, and while Ferroseed also beats it with Seed Bomb or Bullet Seed.</p>

Excellent write-up. Make sure you make the change in orange, which you forgot to change from elDino's check. Otherwise...



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