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First Team OU RMT

Discussion in 'BW OU Teams' started by Millky95, Aug 10, 2013.

  1. Millky95

    Millky95

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    Hello Smogon

    I'm relatively new here and recently made my first team and here it is. Done well so far winning about 50% of matches but I'm not sure if me losing also due to my lack of skill which is possible.

    Team at a glance:
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    Politoed (F) @ Choice Specs
    Trait: Drizzle
    EVs: 252 HP / 252 SAtk / 4 Spd
    Modest Nature
    - Hydro Pump
    - Hidden Power [Grass]
    - Ice Beam
    - Focus Blast
    When making a rain team, you need rain. Felt like the Specs set allowed to make the most of Politoed. Has a nice spread of moves to hit a lot of leads hard which is always nice. I do feel like Specs does make me take Toed away a lot which works when other weathers are around. People don't seem to suspect Choice Specs at times and that has been a great advantage. They leave in Ferrothorn and get 70-90% damage when Focus Blast hits. Poli also is my sleep sacrifice if facing a Breloom or other sleeper as I feel whilst he hits hard, he is the easiest Pokemon to let go if the situation is needed. I have been debating Surf over Hydro Pump as the misses have been costly but being able to hit a lot of Pokemon for 40-60% on a switch in with Hydro Pump has almost been a game saver for me.

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    Keldeo-Resolute @ Choice Scarf
    Trait: Justified
    EVs: 252 SAtk / 252 Spd / 4 HP
    Modest Nature
    - Surf
    - Hydro Pump
    - Hidden Power [Ice]
    - Secret Sword
    My main weather power hitter. When the rain is down this guy has been awesome for me. Went with speed over power as if rain is up, it'll make up for the lack of specs. Not sure of Surf, feel like I could use a different move. I went with a Modest nature to hit harder as with the scarf my speed is higher than many threats. Went with Hidden Power Ice over Bug or Grass to revenge kill dragons. Secret Sword is also great for coverage and STAB.


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    Jellicent (M) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Water Absorb
    EVs: 248 HP / 216 Def / 44 Spd
    Bold Nature
    - Surf
    - Recover
    - Toxic / Will-o-Wisp
    - Taunt
    Spin block that likes the wet. Pretty standard but works. Surf in the rain has been pretty handy and Toxic support is always nice. I recently picked Will-o-wisp over Toxic as it helped against Pokemon such as Tentacruel 1vs1. This guy has stalled me to victory a few times. Once he beat a Jarachi and Blissey with Wisp and Surf. I was thinking for a more physically defensive Mon over Jelly but whenever I think that he cripples a team or saves me which makes me concerned about moving him.

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    Scizor (F) @ Choice Band
    Trait: Technician
    EVs: 248 HP / 252 Atk / 8 Spd
    Adamant Nature
    - Bullet Punch
    - Pursuit
    - U-turn
    - Superpower
    I felt like I was running too much on the Special side so needed to be Physical. Scizor hits hard and strong. Standard Bander. Bullet Punch for quick KOs and Pursuit to stop Pokemon that could stop a Keldeo sweep. Lately he hasn't been netting me the KOs I'd have liked but Pursuiting is nice. It seems a lot of Mons are now running HP Fire and anticipating the Scizor switch in. Not sure of a possible replacement.


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    Ferrothorn @ Leftovers
    Trait: Iron Barbs
    EVs: 88 Def / 252 HP / 4 Atk / 166 SDef
    Relaxed Nature
    IVs: 0 Spd
    - Stealth Rock
    - Power Whip
    - Leech Seed
    - Gyro Ball
    I put in Ferro in over Donphan as I felt a bit Breloom weak and Ferro seemed like a good check. He also helps with Dragons locked into Outrage. Gyro ball has come in handy a lot when a fast Pokemon comes in expecting me to switch after using Stealth Rocks. My issues here are what Donphan offered: Ice Shard and Rapid Spin. Ice Shard helped get a few quick KOs and Spin got rid of Stealth Rocks which has been annoying a lot as of late. Also the extra Fire weak has been troubling, especially whenever rain isn't up.


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    Thundurus-Therian (M) @ Life Orb
    Trait: Volt Absorb
    EVs: 252 Spd / 252 SAtk / 4 HP
    Timid Nature
    - Thunder
    - Grass Knot
    - Hidden Power [Ice]
    - Focus Blast
    Power > Speed is why I chose Thundeurus over Jolteon. Mid-game sweeper hoping to punch in a few holes in the opponents team allowing for Keledo to do what he does best. Thunder in the rain is crazy strong and anything that doesn't resist it and not in the Chansey line gets a fair hit. I do miss the great speed of Jolteon but the sheer power has also saved me at times. I could run scarf but I've got a lot of Choice users and I enjoy the freedom of switching moves. Hitting a potential counter SE the next turn when they predict me to switch is a lovely feeling. Also the SR weak hasn't been nice and has been stopping sweeps.

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    Donphan (M) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Sturdy
    EVs: 252 Def / 252 HP / 4 SDef
    Impish Nature
    - Stealth Rock
    - Rapid Spin
    - Earthquake
    - Ice Shard
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    Jolteon @ Life Orb
    Trait: Volt Absorb
    EVs: 252 Spd / 252 SAtk / 4 HP
    Timid Nature
    - Thunder
    - Volt Switch
    - Signal Beam
    - Hidden Power [Ice]


    Issues I have:
    - Sun teams. I don't know why but I've never beaten a sun team.
    - Breloom: Even with Ferro I still struggle with Breloom, he KOs me rather quickly
    - Toxicroak+Tentacruel: Can't KO them.
    - Stealth Rocks: I don't have a spinner and the damage has been coming annoying.

    Like I said, the team feels average and I've won about half of my games but I also suck at battling so it could be me. Would like some tips and tricks to make it better :) Thank you :)
    Last edited: Aug 15, 2013
  2. deadflame

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    Nice team. Might I suggest a Timid Nature on Keldeo, along with a moveset of Hydro Pump, Secret Sword, Icy Wind, and HP Ghost/Electric? A Timid Nature ensures a speed tie with Scarf Terrakion.
  3. Millky95

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    Thank you for the Suggestion :) I've fiddled around with the team and have made changes. I've taken out Donphan and Jolteon for:

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    Ferrothorn @ Leftovers
    Trait: Iron Barbs
    EVs: 88 Def / 252 HP / 4 Atk / 166 SDef
    Relaxed Nature
    IVs: 0 Spd
    - Stealth Rock
    - Power Whip
    - Leech Seed
    - Gyro Ball
    I put in Ferro in over Donphan as I felt a bit Breloom weak and Ferro seemed like a good check. He also helps with Dragons locked into Outrage. I really miss Ice Shard and Rapid Spin however.

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    Thundurus-Therian (M) @ Life Orb
    Trait: Volt Absorb
    EVs: 252 Spd / 252 SAtk / 4 HP
    Timid Nature
    - Thunder
    - Grass Knot
    - Hidden Power [Ice]
    - Focus Blast
    Power > Speed is why I chose Thundeurus over Jolteon. At times I have missed the speed but that extra power has saved me a fair few times.

    Issues I have:
    - Sun teams. I don't know why but I've never beaten a sun team.
    - Breloom: Even with Ferro I still struggle with Breloom, he KOs me rather quickly
    - Toxicroak+Tentacruel: Can't KO them.

    With this team I've gotten 67 wins, 51 loses and a Glicko2 of 1727 ± 39 which I think is decent considering I started playing on Saturday. Any changes and fixes would still be greatly appreciated. Thank you :)
  4. Kingler12345

    Kingler12345 COOKIE COOKIE COOKIE STARTS WITH C
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    Please make the descriptions about 3 lines. As for sun, slap latias onto your team try a list of sun checks and see how it goes. Full rate later.
  5. Millky95

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    Added in more detail, trying to give an insight into why I chose certain things as well as issues I have been having. If you require more detail let me know and I will happily try to provide it.
  6. Kingler12345

    Kingler12345 COOKIE COOKIE COOKIE STARTS WITH C
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    Oh yes, you've updated it well. I will rate this in some time definitely though.
    In the meantime though, I have a suggestion for your scizor set.
    Change it from CB to swords dance acrobatics.
    IIRC it's Scizor@Flying gem|Technician
    EVs-252 Atk/252 Spe/4 Spdef
    Jolly nature
    Moves:
    Acrobatics/Bullet punch/Superpower/Swords dance
    This thing is an excellent partner for keldeo, it takes out some your current set's greatest enemies, who happen to wall CBzor too- Tentacruel and jellicent. Toxicroak is murdered by flying gem acrobatics too, though watch out for a +2 LO drain punch.
  7. Lampent

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    I don't have the time to do a full rate right now, but I'll just leave something to take into account. Your Ferrothorn only sets up SR, meaning that you don't really need a Spin Blocker. Because of that, while keeping synergy intact, I reccomend a Tentacruel to Rapid Spin, helping your team a lot

    Tentacruel @ Black Sludge
    Trait: Rain Dish
    EVs: 252 HP / 200 Def / 56 SDef
    - Rapid Spin
    - Scald
    - Toxic
    - Substitute

    This set can easily beat spinblockers such as Jellicent. Scald does not break an Sub, meaning it can Toxic it to death.

    Hope I helped!

    - Lampent

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