Floatzel (Analysis)

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[Overview]

<p>Floatzel has always been a solid Pokemon, sporting a good Attack stat, an excellent Speed stat,[comma] and a decent Special Attack stat, making it great offensive threat. With its offensive stats, Floatzel can use moves such as Ice Beam in tandem with Waterfall and other physical moves, taking down most of the Pokemon in the UU tier. Floatzel is also the fastest Pokemon with Swift Swim in the game. However, like most fast sweepers, Floatzel is rather frail with 55 Defense and 50 Special Defense stats. Fortunately, they are somewhat patched up with a good HP stat of 85, and, due to its Water typing, while being a Water-type Pokemon, Floatzel only have has two weaknesses.</p>

<p>Despite this, Floatzel still has a hard time in the UU tier this time around with all the new additions to the tier. Suicune and Empoleon put a stop to Floatzel if it doesn't carry the right move, while faster threats, such as Jolteon,[comma] easily KO it easily KOes it . However, Floatzel did receive two new tools to play with this generation: Switcheroo and Water Veil. With Switcheroo, Floatzel easily shuts down several Pokemon in combination with Choice Band, while Water Veil prevents Scald from burning it. All this makes Floatzel a dangerous and tricky Pokemon to face.</p>

[SET]
name: Rain Sweeper
move 1: Waterfall
move 2: Ice Beam
move 3: Brick Break / Crunch
move 4: Rain Dance
item: Life Orb
ability: Swift Swim
nature: Rash
evs: 240 Atk / 252 SpA / 16 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>Rain Dance, in combination with Swift Swim, makes Floatzel the sweeper it is. With the above EVs and Swift Swim, Floatzel reaches an incredible Speed stat of 540, outspeeding the entire tier. With Rain Dance, Floatzel also makes a great hail counter. Waterfall is a reliable STAB with a good side effect, while and it hits hard in rain. Ice Beam helps in taking care of Floatzel's greatest counter, Tangrowth, as well as other Grass-types and Dragon-types. The choice of the third move depends solely on what you want to hit. As Floatzel counters hail so well, Brick Break makes a great choice. Brick Break hits Ice-type Pokemon for super effective damage, the most noteworthy being Abomasnow. Brick Break also hits Empoleon and Ferroseed for super effective damage. Crunch, however, hits Slowbro for super effective damage, who resists Floatzel's other moves. Either one can be used over Rain Dance if you have rain support on your team.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>Several other moves can be made of use on this set. Aqua Tail hits harder than Waterfall, but has as lower accuracy and Floatzel can't really afford to miss. Aqua Jet is also an option, as it has priority, but it's pretty redundant with Swift Swim. Low Kick hits Empoleon slightly harder than Brick Break, but does less damage to Chansey. Taunt can prevent other Pokemon from setting up on or status Floatzel. The listed EVs make Floatzel hit as hard as possible with all its moves, while it also outspeeds up to neutral 85 base Speed Pokemon, such as Heracross, outside of rain. Uxie is a great partner to Floatzel, as it can provide screen support as well as rain support if Floatzel isn't carrying Rain Dance itself. Floatzel also benefits from all kinds of entry hazards. Uxie can set up Stealth Rock in tandem with screens, while Roserade and Nidoqueen partners partner well with Floatzel, setting up Spikes, Toxic Spikes and Stealth Rock respectively. If Floatzel lacks one of the coverage, Brick Break and Crunch, Pokemon that can take care of Empoleon and Slowbro make great partners. Mismagius can easliy take care of Slowbro with Nasty Plot and the super effective Shadow Ball, while Heracross can easily dispose of Empoleon with Close Combat. Rhyperior is also a great partner, taking care of Electric-type Pokemon such as Jolteon and Zapdos.</p>

[SET]
name: Choice Band
move 1: Waterfall
move 2: Ice Fang
move 3: Crunch / Brick Break
move 4: Switcheroo
item: Choice Band
ability: Water Veil
nature: Jolly / Adamant
evs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>Floatzel is a great Choice Band user thanks to its high Attack and Speed stats. Waterfall is Floatzel's main move to use, being a reliable STAB move with a good effect. Ice Fang is used to hit Grass- and Dragon-types harder than Waterfall. It won't do much damage to Tangrowth,[comma] though. The third move depends on what you want Floatzel to hit. Crunch is used to hit hurts Slowbro, who resists Floatzel's other moves, while Brick Break is used to hit hits Empoleon and Ferroseed,[comma] who also resist its moves. Switcheroo is an excellent move to use on for a Choice Band user, and sets Floatzel apart from other users of it, such as Kabutops. Switcheroo will make several Pokemon in the tier useless when used.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>Aqua Tail is a viable option over Waterfall if you want more power, but the loss in accuracy is bad, and Floatzel can't afford to miss. Aqua Jet can also be used for a priority option. Ice Beam is also an option over Ice Fang to hit Tangrowth harder, as an uninvested Ice Beam 2HKOes it. A Naive or Naughty nature is recommended in this case if you use it. Low Kick hits Empoleon slightly harder than Brick Break, but does less damage to Chansey. Water Veil is used to prevent Floatzel from being burned, but it limits it the weasel to use either Ice Fang or Ice Beam. Ice Punch is still an option for more power, but it can only be used with Swift Swim and not Water Veil. Ice Punch is also illegal with Switcheroo, making Ice Fang the only choice for a physical Ice-type move better choice. A bulkier spread of 240 HP, 252 Attack, and 16 Speed EVs is useable usable with Swift Swim and rain support.</p>

<p>Entry hazards is are needed to score certain KOs. Roserade and Nidoqueen make good partners, and can set up Spikes, Toxic Spikes, and Nidoqueen Stealth Rock respectively. Both also resists both Neither are particularly harmed by Electric-type moves, while and Roserade also resists Grass-type moves directed at Floatzel. Furthermore, Floatzel resists Fire-, Water-, Ice-type moves that Roserade and Nidoqueen are weak to. Donphan provides necessary Rapid Spin support, as Floatzel will be switching around a lot alot. Donphan is also immune to the dangerous Electic-type moves, while and it's able to set up Stealth Rock as well. If you're going to use the bulky spread and Swift Swim on Floatzel, rain support is needed. Uxie makes a excellent choice of a Rain Dance user. Uxie can also set up screens, which Floatzel also benefits from. Rhyperior is also a great partner, easily taking care of Electric-types such as Jolteon and Zapdos.</p>

[Other Options]

<p>Pursuit is an option to hit common Psychic- and Ghost-types, such Mew and Mismagius, hard on the switch. Return is also a viable option, as Water and Normal give great coverage, but it will leave Floatzel horribly walled by Slowbro and Empoleon. Both Surf and Scald can used on the first set with some success, if you feel a special Water-type move is needed. Also, Hidden Power Electric and Hidden Power Grass is useable are usable to hit other Water-types; Hidden Power Grass is important if Quagsire is a problem, while Hidden Power Grass hits Quagsire super effectively. Icy Wind is also a viable support option an Ice-type move as a support move since it lowers the opponent's Speed stat. Floatzel also has acces access to Bulk Up, but can find it hard to use in this highly offensive metagame.[period] However, a set with Bulk Up and Agility can make Floatzel a good Baton Pass user., but it does have the possibility to pass Bulk Up boosts together with Agility boosts with Baton Pass. It does face competition from Mew; Floatzel is faster, but Mew are is bulkier, making it a better choice overall.</p>

[Checks and Counters]

<p>Suicune is Floatzel's greatest counter. It resists Floatzel's STAB and Ice-type moves, while and it takes little damage from Crunch and Brick Break. Switcheroo is a problem for Suicune though. Tangrowth is also a good counter, as without Ice Beam, Floatzel won't be doing any big damage. Physically defensive versions of Zapdos is are also a good choice, as it they won't take much damage from Floatzel's physical moves and hits hit hard with its Electric-type moves. Zapdos needs to be careful of Ice Beam though. Jolteon is also a dangerous Electric-type Pokemon, as it is faster tha Floatzel and will easily KO it with Thunderbolt. Jolteon is the main reason a Bulk Up set won't work very well. There are also several Pokemon who that counters and checks check Floatzel depending on what move it's carrying. Both Quagsire, and Slowbro will easily wall Floatzel if it doesn't carry the rare Hidden Power Power or Crunch, while Empoleon will wall it Floatzel if it doesn't carry Hidden Power Electric or Brick Break. Abomasnow also poses[add s] a real threat if Floatzel doesn't carry Brick Break.</p>


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I don't really remember if I was, it's been exactly 3 weeks since I wrote this thing.

But it seems I was in the end, alot of stupid mistakes.

The check is implented now. Ready for the second one.
 
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[Overview]

<p>Floatzel has always been a solid Pokemon, sporting a good Attack stat, an excellent Speed stat, and a decent Special Attack stat, thus making; this makes it a great offensive threat. Floatzel can use moves such as Ice Beam in tandem with Waterfall and other physical moves, taking allowing it to take down most of the Pokemon in the UU tier. Floatzel is also the fastest Pokemon with Swift Swim in the game. However, like most fast sweepers, Floatzel is rather frail with 55 Defense and 50 Special Defense stats. Fortunately, they are somewhat patched up with a good HP stat of 85, and, due to its Water typing, Floatzel only has two weaknesses.</p>

<p>Despite this, Floatzel still has a hard time in the UU tier this time around with due to all the new additions to the tier. Suicune, Slowbro, and Empoleon put a stop to Floatzel if it doesn't carry the right move, while faster threats, such as Jolteon, can easily KO it. However, Floatzel did receive two new tools to play with this generation: Switcheroo and Water Veil. With Switcheroo, Floatzel easily shuts down several Pokemon in combination with Choice Band, while whereas Water Veil prevents Scald from burning it Floatzel. All this makes Floatzel a dangerous and tricky Pokemon to face.</p>

[SET]
name: Rain Sweeper
move 1: Waterfall
move 2: Ice Beam
move 3: Brick Break / Crunch
move 4: Rain Dance
item: Life Orb
ability: Swift Swim
nature: Rash
evs: 240 Atk / 252 SpA / 16 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>Rain Dance, in combination with Swift Swim, makes Floatzel the sweeper that it is. With the above EVs and Swift Swim, Floatzel reaches an incredible Speed stat of 540, outspeeding the entire tier. With Rain Dance, Floatzel also makes a great hail counter. Waterfall is a reliable STAB with a good side effect, and it hits hard in rain. Ice Beam helps in taking care of Floatzel's greatest counter, Tangrowth, as well as other Grass-types and Dragon-types. The choice of the third move depends solely on what you want to hit. As Floatzel counters hail so well, Brick Break makes a great choice. Brick Break hits Ice-type Pokemon for super effective damage, the most noteworthy being Abomasnow. Brick Break also hits Empoleon and Ferroseed for super effective damage. Crunch, however, hits Slowbro for super effective damage, who resists Floatzel's other moves. Either one can be used over Rain Dance if you have rain support on your team already.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>Several other moves can be made of use on this set. Aqua Tail hits harder than Waterfall, but has lower accuracy and ; this is a major flaw since Floatzel can't really afford to miss. Aqua Jet is also an option, as since it has priority, but it's is pretty redundant with Swift Swim. Low Kick hits Empoleon slightly harder than Brick Break, but does less damage to Chansey. Taunt can prevent other Pokemon from setting up on or laying statuses on Floatzel. The listed EVs make Floatzel hit as hard as possible with all its moves, while it also letting it outspeeds up to neutral 85 base Speed Pokemon, such as Heracross, outside of rain. Uxie is a great partner to Floatzel, as since it can provide screen support as well as rain support if Floatzel isn't carrying Rain Dance itself. Floatzel also benefits from all kinds of entry hazards. Uxie can set up Stealth Rock in tandem with screens, while Roserade and Nidoqueen partner well with Floatzel, setting can set up Spikes, Toxic Spikes and Stealth Rock respectively. If Floatzel lacks one of the its coverage moves, Brick Break and or Crunch, Pokemon that can take care of Empoleon and Slowbro make great partners. Mismagius can easliy easily take care of Slowbro with Nasty Plot and the super effective Shadow Ball, while Heracross can easily dispose of Empoleon with Close Combat. Rhyperior is also a great partner, taking care of Electric-type Pokemon such as Jolteon and Zapdos.</p>

[SET]
name: Choice Band
move 1: Waterfall
move 2: Ice Fang
move 3: Crunch / Brick Break
move 4: Switcheroo
item: Choice Band
ability: Water Veil
nature: Jolly / Adamant
evs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>Floatzel is a great Choice Band user thanks to its high Attack and Speed stats. Waterfall is Floatzel's main move, being a reliable STAB move with a good effect. Ice Fang is used to hit Grass- and Dragon-types harder than Waterfall. It won't do that much damage to Tangrowth, though. The third move depends on what you want Floatzel to hit. Crunch hurts Slowbro, who resists Floatzel's other moves, while Brick Break hits Empoleon and Ferroseed, who also resist its moves. Switcheroo is an excellent move for a fast Choice Band user, and sets Floatzel apart from other users of it, such as Kabutops. Switcheroo will can make several Pokemon in the tier useless when used.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>Aqua Tail is a viable option over Waterfall if you want more power, but the loss in accuracy is bad hurts , and since Floatzel can't afford to miss. Aqua Jet can also be used for a priority option. Ice Beam is an option over Ice Fang to hit Tangrowth harder, as an uninvested Ice Beam 2HKOes it. A Naive or Naughty nature is recommended in this case. Low Kick hits Empoleon slightly harder than Brick Break, but does less damage to Chansey. Water Veil is used to prevent Floatzel from being burned, but it limits Floatzel to use either Ice Fang or Ice Beam. Ice Punch is still an option for more power, but it can only be used with Swift Swim. Ice Punch is also illegal with Switcheroo, making Ice Fang the only choice for a physical Ice-type move. A bulkier spread of 240 HP, 252 Attack, and 16 Speed EVs is usable with Swift Swim and rain support.</p>

<p>Entry hazards are needed to score certain KOs. Roserade and Nidoqueen make good partners ,and can set up Spikes, Toxic Spikes, and Nidoqueen Stealth Rock since Roserade can set up Spikes and Toxic Spikes, and Nidoqueen can set up Stealth Rock. Neither are particularly harmed by Electric-type moves, and Roserade can also resists Grass-type moves directed at Floatzel. Furthermore, Floatzel resists Fire-, Water-, Ice-type moves that Roserade and Nidoqueen are weak to. Donphan provides necessary Rapid Spin support, as Floatzel will be switching around a lot. Donphan is also immune to the dangerous Electic-type moves, and it's able to set up Stealth Rock as well. If you're going to use the bulky spread and Swift Swim on Floatzel, rain support is needed. Uxie makes a excellent choice of for a Rain Dance user. Uxie can also set up screens, which Floatzel also benefits from. Rhyperior is also a great partner, easily taking as it can easily care of Electric-types such as Jolteon and Zapdos.</p>

[Other Options]

<p>Pursuit is an option to hit common Psychic- and Ghost-types, such Mew and Mismagius, hard on the switch. Return is also a viable option, as Water and Normal give great coverage, but it will leave Floatzel horribly walled by Slowbro and Empoleon. Both Surf and Scald can used on the first set with some success, if you feel a special Water-type move is needed. Also, Hidden Power Electric and Hidden Power Grass are usable to hit other Water-types; Hidden Power Grass is important if Quagsire is a problem. Icy Wind is a viable support Ice-type move since it lowers the opponent's Speed stat. Floatzel also has access to Bulk Up, but can find it hard to use in this highly offensive metagame. However, a set with Bulk Up and Agility can make Floatzel a good Baton Pass user. It does face competition from Mew; , however. Floatzel is faster, but Mew is bulkier, thus making Mew a better choice overall.</p>

[Checks and Counters]

<p>Suicune is Floatzel's greatest counter. It resists Floatzel's STAB and Ice-type moves, and it takes little damage from Crunch and Brick Break. Switcheroo is a problem for Suicune though. Tangrowth is also a good counter, as without Ice Beam, Floatzel won't be doing any big damage. Physically defensive versions of Zapdos are also a good choice, as they won't take much damage from Floatzel's physical moves and hit hard with its Electric-type moves. Zapdos needs to be careful wary of Ice Beam though. Jolteon is also a dangerous Electric-type Pokemon, as it is faster tha Floatzel and will easily KO it with Thunderbolt. Jolteon is the main reason a Bulk Up set won't work very well. There are also several Pokemon who check Floatzel depending on what move it's carrying. Both Quagsire, and Slowbro will easily wall Floatzel if it doesn't carry the rare Hidden Power Power Grass or Crunch, while whereas Empoleon will wall Floatzel if it doesn't carry Hidden Power Electric or Brick Break. Abomasnow also poses a real major threat if Floatzel doesn't carry Brick Break.</p>
 

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stamping that check



ShakeItUp be sure to more clearly label your punctuation additions/deletions though!
 

breh

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I realize that this is VERY far along in the QC process, but

why is ice beam on the first set? this is gen 5 UU, not gen 4... last I checked, Tangrowth is a non-issue and Roserade is all the rage.


IMO use Ice Punch. Roserade will be OHKOed by it instead of living with a lot and OHKOing you.

also, for CB, you may want to slash Ice Punch/Swift Swim. Ice Punch is not worth losing over Water Veil, which will only matter pretty much when switching into scalds.
 

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Ok, check implemented (except for a few things. One change would imply that Tangrowth is part Dragon-type).

@breludicolo We've been over this before and Ice Fang is a must since Ice Punch is illegal with Switcheroo. I don't want to have this discussion again. Also, this went through QC long before Tangrowth went south. If you want it changed, then post in Controversial edits thread or something along that line instead.

This is now done.
 

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