OK um...lets look at your in-thread explanations (I'll amalgamate both yours and vonfiedler's since they are basically the same points...) billy was a non-player. You clearly state that the reason for the godkill was not the earlier IRC logs you refer to in this thread, but rather the post by a non-player about the incident. Note the bolded part (and the fact that it was vonfiedler who bolded it, not me). No mention of "IRC logs", just "non-player's words in an attempt to influence the lynch", which is exactly what I stated in my original post. Let's continue, shall we? This relates to my second point in my original post in this thread (god this quoting across threads is getting confusing). Basically, your argument is that a sub would have been "screwed over" so we will just award the other team a free kill? So the fuck what if people would have known what he was, how does that mean he is "screwed over", that happens in most subbing cases. This statement, apart from being categorically untrue (again, nothing in your rules about asking for non-players' advice), again posits both that it was the non-player's chat, not these mysterious "IRC logs" which were hardly referenced and never revealed whatsoever that caused the godkill, and that these comments "swayed the lynch", a ridiculous statement for reasons I have already pointed out. Note that nowhere in the actual thread did either of you say that the reason for Spiffy's godkill was IRC logs with players. In other words, your comment here is total bullshit and you cannot simply ignore my points by bringing up non sequiturs.