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Gabite

Discussion in 'Uploaded Analyses' started by BTzz, Nov 27, 2011.

  1. BTzz

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    [Overview]

    <p>Gabite is one of the few viable offensive NFE Pokemon in the RU tier thanks to an excellent typing, well-distributed stats, and near-perfect coverage with its STABs alone. The transition into Generation V brought Gabite a few new toys to bolster its already notable offensive potential. As well as the friend of all NFE Pokemon, Eviolite, Gabite gained Dual Chop and a boosting move in Hone Claws. However, there are a few factors that prevent Gabite from being a top-tier threat. Gabite has no way to boost its less-than-stellar speed, and even though Gabite's offensive typing is well suited for the tier, a base 90 Attack stat has severe difficulties breaking through the walls of RU. Gabite also faces stiff competition as an offensive Dragon-type from Altaria and fellow NFE Pokemon such as Fraxure, Dragonair and Shelgon. Despite all of this, Gabite can still pose a huge offensive threat with the right support.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Choice Band
    move 1: Outrage
    move 2: Earthquake
    move 3: Stone Edge
    move 4: Dual Chop / Dragon Claw
    item: Choice Band
    nature: Jolly
    evs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>Although Gabite's base 90 Attack is nothing to write home about, it's sufficient for an effective Choice Band set, due to Gabite's high-powered attacks and resistance to Stealth Rock. Outrage and Earthquake are the primary attacks on this set; with STAB and Choice Band factored in, they pack quite the punch. Gabite's STAB Earthquake is what differentiates it from the other Dragon-types in the tier. With it, Gabite can OHKO Aggron, the most common Steel-type in RU. Though Stone Edge is mostly filler, it hits any Flying-types trying to get a free switch-in on one of Gabite's Earthquakes. However, you are usually better off using Outrage to hit Flying-types rather than risking Stone Edge's unappetizing 80% accuracy. The final move is best utilized for reliable Dragon-type STAB for when you don't want to be locked into Outrage. Dual Chop gives Gabite the ability to break Substitutes, Focus Sashes, and Sturdy, whereas Dragon Claw offers more consistent accuracy. A Jolly nature is advised to capitalize on Gabite's base 82 Speed stat. It allows Gabite to outspeed positive nature base 80 Speed Pokemon such as Altaria, Gallade, and Medicham.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>If one desires more power, an Adamant nature with the same EV spread can be used at the cost of outspeeding positive nature base 80 Speed Pokemon. When considering teammates for Choice Band Gabite, one must take type synergy into account due to Gabite's paper-thin defenses, which aren't kind to a Pokemon that has to repeatedly switch in. Water- or Flying-type Pokemon make excellent partners, as they draw in Electric-type attacks to safely bring Gabite in. Gabite has trouble getting past sturdy physical walls; therefore, a wallbreaker such as Honchkrow makes a great teammate, as it can effectively run a mixed attacking set and eliminate Claydol, Uxie, or Tangrowth for Gabite. Lilligant also beats a large portion of the physical walls in RU, and her ability to put something to sleep may grant Gabite an opportunity to switch in. Slowking not only tanks Ice-type attacks aimed at Gabite, but it can also take care of a lot of Gabite's checks when using an offensive set, or spread paralysis around the opposing team Although Steel-types are dispatched by Gabite's Earthquake, Magneton can be used as a partner to trap and eliminate Steel-types so that Gabite can recklessly fire off STAB Outrages.</p>

    <p>Choice Band Gabite loves Spikes support. With enough entry hazards on the opponent's side of the field, Gabite can get past grounded physical walls, such as Tangrowth and Sandslash, with Outrage. Omastar and Ferroseed are ideal partners to set up Spikes for Gabite, as they resist Gabite's Dragon- and Ice-type weaknesses, respectively. Pokemon that can set up dual screens will be very useful, helping Gabite shore up its paper-thin defenses. Uxie and Claydol are excellent teammates to set up screens for Gabite thanks to their great bulk and utility.</p>

    [Other Options]

    <p>Gabite can use a Hone Claws set, but it takes several boosts to become truly threatening; furthermore, even with Eviolite, Gabite is easily revenge killed. Gabite can also utilize a Choice Scarf, but the damage output is rather underwhelming. Fire Blast can be used to hit Steel-types with Air Balloon, but the move will be hard pressed to do much else. Gabite can capitalize on its decent special movepool, which includes Draco Meteor, Earth Power, and Fire Blast, by running a special set. However, coming off a base 50 Special Attack, this kind of set would barely scratch dedicated special walls, even with full investment and Choice Specs. A bulky Eviolite set can be used, bolstered by Gabite's access to several useful moves, such as Stealth Rock, Roar, and Toxic, but this kind of set is generally outclassed by bulkier Pokemon with access to recovery such as Steelix.</p>

    [Checks and Counters]

    <p>Claydol and Uxie stop Gabite in its tracks; Choice Banded Outrage fails to 2HKO physically defensive sets, and the pair are immune to Earthquake to boot. Their Levitate ability grants them an immunity to Spikes, which gives them even more opportunities to switch. Claydol can also OHKO Gabite with Ice Beam, and Uxie's STAB Psychic will deal a large amount of damage to sets that lack Eviolite. Tangrowth takes minuscule damage from Earthquake and can OHKO Gabite with Hidden Power Ice. Physically defensive Quagsire and Gligar can recover off Choice Banded Outrages while Toxic chips away at Gabite's HP. Quagsire is, dare I say it, <em>Unaware</em> of Gabite's Hone Claws boost, and Gligar is immune to Earthquake. Without Eviolite, Gabite is prone to being revenge killed, as it does not have access to priority or a speed boosting move.</p>

    [Dream World]

    <p>Gabite gets Rough Skin as its Dream World ability. Gabite's standard ability, Sand Veil, has little use, as there are no permanent sand inducers in the RU tier. However, due to Gabite's frailty, the damage from Rough Skin won't be of much use anyway, so neither ability is of particular use.</p>
  2. athleteandy1

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    Say why Honchkrow is a good teammate.

    Also mention in oo that fire blast hits ferroseed.

    Expand on your checks and counters a bit.

    Maybe add another helpful teammate.

    Maybe slash LO with the first set, but explain that the power drop is noticable.

    Gabite enjoys Shift Gears from Smeargle.

    Note some defensive partners. Like, someone who can take Ice-type attacks.
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    4 SpAtk Gabite Fire Blast vs 252 HP/252 SpDef Eviolite Ferroseed: 32.88% - 39.73%
    3-4 hits to KO

    252 Atk Gabite Fire Fang vs 252 HP/0 Def Eviolite Ferroseed: 54.79% - 65.75%
    2 hits to KO

    imo, i think fire fang should get a mention, as it deals more damage to specialialy defensive ferroseed, that and it gets more accurate thanks to Hone Claws or a boost from Choice Band
  4. athleteandy1

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    I was just sayin that if hes giving it an oo mention anyway (which i'm not sure he should) that it should be noted that it hits ferroseed, which it now says
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    Ok so I made some changes to the op. I just checked and EQ does similar damage compared to Fire Blast against Ferroseed so I guess I'll take that part out. Also, Gabite doesn't get Fire Fang. iirc Garchomp gets it upon evolution.
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    oh whoops, forgot, always thought they all got it
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    Gabite doesn't even get Swords Dance...................... at least it gets Outrage... I would deslash Life Orb from the Hone Claws set, there's no way you're getting a boost without the help of Eviolite. An AC mention of Life Orb would suffice.
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    bumping for qc checks
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    The Choice Band set is excellent. Make Dual Chop the first slash in the 4th slot, breaking Subs is worth the 90% accuracy imo.

    Not so sure about the Hone Claws set. Gabite's mediocre Speed and bulk (even with Eviolite) mean it's not that easy to get a boost and not that hard to force it out if it does. And even with the boost, Dragon Rush still isn't hitting as hard as CB Outrage. It looks like a cool fit on paper, but in my experience it doesn't work very well.
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    Not to mention Dragon Rush can still miss at times. But avoiding the outrage lock is probably the only thing giving it credibility, imo.
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    I don't believe Hone Claws is good enough for an official set, Additonal COmments is fine for it. Other QC memebres can weigh in however.


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    Dual Chop has the same BP as Dragon Claw, accuracy is the only disadvantage.

    And yeah, remove the Hone Claws set.

    QC APPROVED 2/3
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    Done! Thanks for the checks guys, one more.
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    [Overview]

    <p>Gabite is one of the few viable offensive NFE Pokemon in the RU tier thanks to excellent typing, and well-distributed stats, and near-perfect coverage with its STABs alone along with near unresisted dual STABs. The transition into BW brought Gabite a few new toys in addition to Gabite's already stelar offensive move-pool to bolster its already notable offensive potential. Along with the ability to boost its deffenses with friend of all NFE Pokemon, Eviolite, Gabite gained Dual Chop and a boosting move in Hone Claws. However, there are a few factors that prevent Gabite from being a top-tier threat like its evolution Garchomp. Gabite has no way to boost its less-than-stellar speed, and while Gabite's offensive typing is well suited for the tier, a base 90 Attack stat has severe difficulties breaking through the walls of RU coming off a base 90 attack Gabite has a lot of trouble breaking through most of the physical walls in the RU tier without heavy support. Gabite also faces stiff competion as an offensive Dragon-type from Atlaria and fellow NFE Pokemon such as Fraxure, Dragonair and Shelgon. Despite all of this, Gabite can still pose a huge offensive threat with the right team support.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Choice Band
    move 1: Outrage
    move 2: Earthquake
    move 3: Stone Edge
    move 4: Dual Chop / Dragon Claw
    item: Choice Band
    nature: Jolly
    evs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>Although Gabite's base 90 Attack is nothing to write home about, it's sufficient for an effective Choice Band set, due to Gabite's high-powered attacks and resistance to Stealth Rock it can still utilize a Choice Band set effectively due to the high base power of its attacks and Gabite's resistance to Stealth Rock. Outrage and Earthquake are the primary attacks on this set;. with STAB and Choice Band boost factored in, they pack quite the punch. Gabite's STAB Earthquake differentiates it from the other Dragon-types dragons in the tier. It allows Gabite to With it, Gabite can OHKO Aggron, the most common Steel-type in RU. Stone Edge is mostly filler;. it hits Flying-types trying to get a free switch{SPACE}in on one of Gabite's Earthquakes. Although often times However, oftentimes you are better off using locking yourself into Outrage to hit Flying-types rather than risking Stone Edge's unappetizing being locked into an attack with 80% accuracy. The final move slot is best utilized for reliable Dragon-type STAB for when you don't want to be locked into Outrage. Dual Chop gives Gabite the ability to break Substitutes, Focus Sashes, and Sturdy, while Dragon Claws offers consistant accuracy. A Jolly nature is advised to capitilize on Gabite's uniqe base 81 Speed stat. It allows Gabite to out-speed max Speed possitive nature base 80's such as Altaria, Gallade, and Medicham.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>If one desires more power, an Adamant nature with the same EV spread can be used at the cost of out-speeding possitive nature base 80's. When considering teammates for Choice Band Gabite, one must take type synergy into account due to Gabite's paper-thin defenses, which aren't kind to a Pokemon that has to repeatedly switch in the fact that Gabite has paper this deffenses and can't get very many safe switch-ins. Water- or Flying-types make excellent partners, since they draw in Electric-type attacks to safely bring Gabite in. Since Gabite has trouble getting past sturdy physical walls, a wallbreaker like Honchkrow makes a great teammate, since it can go mixed and eliminate Claydol, Uxie, or Tangrowth for Gabite. Lilligant also beats a large portion of the physical walls in RU, and her ability to put something to sleep may grant Gabite an opportunity to switch-in. Slowking can tank Ice-type attacks aimed at Gabite while spreading paralisys paralysis. Slowking can also take care of a lot of Gabite's checks when using an offensive set. Although Steel-types are dispatched by Gabite's Earthquake, Magneton can be used as a partner to trap and eliminate Steel-types so that Gabite can recklessly fire off STAB Outrages.</p>

    <p>Choice Band Gabite loves Spikes support. With enough hazards on the opponent's side of the feild, Gabite can get past grounded physical walls, such as Tangrowth and Sandslash, with Outrage. Omastar and Ferroseed are the ideal partners to set up Spikes for Gabite, as they both resist one of Gabite's weaknesses Ice-type attacks. Pokemon that can set up dual screens will be very useful, helping Gabite shore up for Gabite to make up for its paper-thin defenses. Uxie and Claydol are very good choices excellent teammates thanks to their great bulk and utility. Yes, they're bulky and they have utility, but what do they do for Gabite specifically?</p>

    [Other Options]

    <p>Gabite can use a Hone Claws set, but it takes several boosts to become truly threatening; furthermore, even with Eviolite, Gabite is easily revenge killed although it would take a lot of boost to become threatening and is revenge killed with ease, even with Eviolite. Gabite can also utilize a Choice Scarf, but the damage output is really rather underwhelmeing. Body Slam can be viable on Gabite due the fact that it has a 30% paralisys rate to make up for Gabite's medicore speed. Fire Blast can be used to hit Steel-types with Air Balloon, but the move will be hard pressed to do much else , although with Gabite's pathetic special attack stat is won't be doing much damage to anything else, especially univested. Gabite can capitilize on its decent special move-pool, which that includes Draco Meteor, Earth Power, and Fire Blast by running a special set. However, coming off a base 50 Special Attack, this kind of set would barely scratch dedicated special walls, even with full investment and Choice Specs. A bulky Eviolite set can be used, bolstered by Gabite's access to several useful moves, such as in in conjunction with Gabite's support move-pool that includes Stealth Rock, Roar, and Toxic, but this kind if of set is generally outclassed by bulkier Pokemon with access to reliable recovery.</p>

    [Checks and Counters]

    <p>Claydol and Uxie stop Gabite in it's tracks; Choice Banded Outrage fails to 2HKO physically defensive sets, and the pair is immune to Earthquake to boot. They are immune to Earthquake and Choice Banded Outrage fails to 2HKO physically deffensive sets.[/quote] Their Levitate ability grants them an immunity to Spikes, which gives them more opportunities to switch in means their always free to switch in. Claydol can also OHKO Gabite with Ice Beam, in return while Uxie's STAB Psychic will still deal a large amount of damage to sets that lack Eviolite. Tangrowth takes miniscule damage from Earthquake and can OHKO Gabite with Hidden Power Ice. Physically deffensive Quagsire and Gligar can Recover off Choice Banded Outrages while Toxic stalling Gabite chips away at Gabite's HP. Quagsire nulifies is&mdash;dare I say it&mdash;Unaware of Gabite's Hone Claws boost(s), thanks to it's Unaware ability and Gligar is immune to Earthquake. Without Eviolite, Gabite is proned to being revenge killed, since it does not have access to priority or a speed boosting move.</p>

    [Dream World]

    <p>Gabite gets Rough Skin as its DW ability. As of now, Gabite's standard ability, Sand Veil, has little use, as there are currently no permanaent sand inducers in the RU tier. Although However, due to Gabite's frailty, the damage from Rough Skin won't be of much use anyway, so neither ability is of particular use. either ability is fine</p>


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    that check is terrible, Terrador you suck

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    Done :). Thanks Terrador, ready for the next one!
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    [Overview]

    <p>Gabite is one of the few viable offensive NFE Pokemon in the RU tier thanks to excellent typing, well-distributed stats, and near-perfect coverage with its STABs alone. The transition into BW brought Gabite a few new toys to bolster its already notable offensive potential. Along with the friend of all NFE Pokemon, Eviolite, Gabite gained Dual Chop and a boosting move in Hone Claws. However, there are a few factors that prevent Gabite from being a top-tier threat. Gabite has no way to boost its less-(hyphen) (space)than stellar speed, and while Gabite's offensive typing is well suited for the tier, a base 90 Attack stat has severe difficulties breaking through the walls of RU. Gabite also faces stiff competition as an offensive Dragon-type from Altaria and fellow NFE Pokemon such as Fraxure, Dragonair and Shelgon. Despite all of this, Gabite can still pose a huge offensive threat with the right team support.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Choice Band
    move 1: Outrage
    move 2: Earthquake
    move 3: Stone Edge
    move 4: Dual Chop / Dragon Claw
    item: Choice Band
    nature: Jolly
    evs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>Although Gabite's base 90 Attack is nothing to write home about, it's sufficient for an effective Choice Band set, due to Gabite's high-powered attacks and resistance to Stealth Rock. Outrage and Earthquake are the primary attacks on this set; with STAB and Choice Band factored in, they pack quite the punch. Gabite's STAB Earthquake differentiates it from the other Dragon-types in the tier. With it, Gabite can OHKO Aggron, the most common Steel-type in RU. Stone Edge is mostly filler;(semicolon),(comma) but it does hits Flying-types trying to get a free switch-in on one of Gabite's Earthquakes. However, oftentimes you are better off using Outrage to hit Flying-types rather than risking Stone Edge's unappetizing 80% accuracy. The final move is best utilized for reliable Dragon-type STAB for when you don't want to be locked into Outrage. Dual Chop gives Gabite the ability to break Substitutes, Focus Sashes, and Sturdy, while Dragon Claw offers more consistent accuracy. A Jolly nature is advised to capitalize on Gabite's base 82 Speed stat. It allows Gabite to out Speed outspeed positive nature base 80s such as Altaria, Gallade, and Medicham.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>If one desires more power, an Adamant nature with the same EV spread can be used at the cost of outspeeding positive nature base 80s. When considering teammates for Choice Band Gabite, one must take type synergy into account due to Gabite's paper-thin defenses, which aren't kind to a Pokemon that has to repeatedly switch in. Water- or Flying-type Pokemon make excellent partners, since they draw in Electric-type attacks to safely bring Gabite in. Since Gabite has trouble getting past sturdy physical walls, a wallbreaker like Honchkrow makes a great teammate, since it can go mixed and eliminate Claydol, Uxie, or Tangrowth for Gabite. Lilligant also beats a large portion of the physical walls in RU, and her ability to put something to sleep may grant Gabite an opportunity to switch in. Slowking can not only tank Ice-type attacks aimed at Gabite while spreading paralysis.(period) Slowking can but also take care of a lot of Gabite's checks when using an offensive set. Although Steel-types are dispatched by Gabite's Earthquake, Magneton can be used as a partner to trap and eliminate Steel-types so that Gabite can recklessly fire off STAB Outrages.</p>

    <p>Choice Band Gabite loves Spikes support. With enough hazards on the opponent's side of the field, Gabite can get past grounded physical walls, such as Tangrowth and Sandslash, with Outrage. Omastar and Ferroseed are the ideal partners to set up Spikes for Gabite, as they resist Gabite's Dragon- and Ice-type weaknesses,(comma) respectively. Pokemon that can set up dual screens will be very useful, helping Gabite shore up its paper-thin defenses. Uxie and Claydol are excellent teammates to set up screens for Gabite thanks to their great bulk and utility.

    [Other Options]

    <p>Gabite can use a Hone Claws set, but it takes several boosts to become truly threatening; furthermore, even with Eviolite, Gabite is easily revenge killed. Gabite can also utilize a Choice Scarf, but the damage output is rather underwhelming. Fire Blast can be used to hit Steel-types with Air Balloon, but the move will be hard pressed to do much else. Gabite can capitalize on its decent special movepool, which includes Draco Meteor, Earth Power, and Fire Blast,(comma) by running a special set. However, coming off a base 50 Special Attack, this kind of set would barely scratch dedicated special walls, even with full investment and Choice Specs. A bulky Eviolite set can be used, bolstered by Gabite's access to several useful moves, such as Stealth Rock, Roar, and Toxic, but this kind of set is generally outclassed by bulkier Pokemon with access to recovery such as Steelix.(period)</p>

    [Checks and Counters]

    <p>Claydol and Uxie stop Gabite in it's its tracks; Choice Banded Outrage fails to 2HKO physically defensive sets, and the pair are immune to Earthquake to boot. Their Levitate ability grants them an immunity to Spikes, which gives them more opportunities to switch. Claydol can also OHKO Gabite with Ice Beam, while Uxie's STAB Psychic will deal a large amount of damage to sets that lack Eviolite. Tangrowth takes miniscule damage from Earthquake and can OHKO Gabite with Hidden Power Ice. Physically defensive Quagsire and Gligar can recover off Choice Banded Outrages while Toxic chips away at Gabite's HP. Quagsire is, dare I say it, Unaware of Gabite's Hone Claws boost(space)(s), and Gligar is immune to Earthquake. Without Eviolite, Gabite is proned prone to being revenge killed, since it does not have access to priority or a speed boosting move.</p>

    [Dream World]

    <p>Gabite gets Rough Skin as its DW ability. As of now, Gabite's standard ability, (space)Sand Veil, has little use, as there are currently no permanent sand inducers in the RU tier. However, due to Gabite's frailty, the damage from Rough Skin won't be of much use anyway, so neither ability is of particular use.</p>


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    Thanks for the check Engineer Pikachu, I added Sleelix as an example. Awaiting a stamp.
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    I liked the pun, personally. <em> tags around "Unaware" will italicize it in the HTML, and so will make the joke stand out more.

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    Thanks for the check Zystral, my first analysis is done :D
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