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Gamageroge (QC Approved 0/2)

Discussion in 'Locked / Outdated Analyses' started by Ancien Régime, Oct 22, 2010.

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  1. Ancien Régime

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    Gamageroge




    [Overview]

    • Despite great typing, has mediocre stats, especially defensively, which inhibit it from playing a Swampert-like role.
    • Also lacking in solid support options such as Stealth Rock or Recover.
    • However, it has access to Swift Swim, and the Water/Ground defensive typing, coupled with its high HP make a defensive set viable.

    [SET]
    name: Swift Swim
    move 1: Surf/Hydro Pump
    move 2: Hidden Power [Electric] / Hidden Power [Ice]
    move 3: Focus Blast
    move 4: Grass Knot/Sludge Wave
    item: Life Orb
    nature: Timid
    evs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

    Set Description:


    • Your standard Life Orb Swift Swimmer; while hampered noticeably by the lack of access to Ice Beam, it has a decent movepool to work with, though with sadly redundant coverage.
    • Hydro Pump or Surf is the primary STAB move; Grass Knot provides coverage against waters.
    • Gamageroge must choose between hitting Gyarados and other waters with neutrality to Grass Knot with Hidden Power Electric, or hitting dragons like Salamence and Dragonite.
    • Focus Blast is useful against certain water-resistant steels, like Emploeon and Nattorei, as well as providing extra coverage. It also does more damage to Sazando than Hidden Power Ice.
    • Sludge Wave could be useful against opposing Grass Types, however, Gamageroge should not stay in against them unless they are weakened.

    Additional Comments:

    • Simple EV spread usually as there's no reason to use anything other than 252 SAtk / 252 Speed.
    • Modest is not recommended; with Modest Gamageroge is outsped by Deoxys-S and max speed base 102 or higher scarfers in the rain.

    Teammates and Counters:

    • Obviously you'll want Politoed or Kyogre to set up the rain.
    • Shandera, depending on type (usually SubCM), is potentially useful in killing opposing certain weather-changers such as Hippowdon and Ninetales.
    • Grass types like Celebi, Jaroda or Erefuun can come in on Grass attacks, as well as water attacks aimed at its Water neutrality. Shaymin-S has a 4x Grass resist, so it's even better for this role.

    • If Gamaeroge is not carrying Slime Wave, it will have great difficulty getting past Grass types; if it is not carrying Grass Knot, it will struggle with Water types, which can deal severe damage to it in the rain due to Ground negating its water resist.
    • Vaporeon and Manaphy shut it down entirely because of Grass Knot's low base power against them.
    • Gamageroge must beware of opposing weather changers, though his saving grace is that all potential weather changers are weak to Water.
    • Salamence or Gyarados can shut it down depending on what Hidden Power it decides to carry.
    [SET]

    name: Choice Specs
    move 1: Hydro Pump
    move 2: Sludge Wave
    move 3: Focus Blast
    move 4: Grass Knot
    item: Choice Specs
    nature: Timid
    evs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

    Set Description:



    • Overall, similar to the LO Swift Swimmer, except that it is not neccesarily dependent on the rain to be effective.
    • As Specs Gamaeroge will play differently from the LO Swift Swimmer, Hydro Pump is better for its more hit-and-run style.
    • Slime Wave is more useful on this set, as it will look to predict Grass switchins and severely dent them.

    Teammates and Counters:

    • While it certainly benefits from the rain, Specs Gamageroge's role is to dent potential checks to another sweeper; it can dent Water types with Grass Knot, Grass types with Slime Wave, Nattorei with Focus Blast.
    • It can also clear the way for other sweepers countered by certain bulky waters like Doryuuzu and Tyranitar.
    • Like the previous set, Vaporeon and Manaphy shut it down, though the less defensive Manaphy variants won't appreciate Specs Hydro Pump.
    • Grass/Poison hybrids like Venusaur are also effective switch-ins, as they are neutral to Slime Wave and can OHKO back with a grass move.

    [Dream World]

    • Water Absorb provides Gamageroge a few new defensive options; with this ability it can shut down bulky waters almost entirely.
    • It can work similarly to Quagsire in checking Kyogre, but it is forced to use Toxic in lieu of Yawn.
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    Please remember the format of these analyses. They are supposed to be bullet points, not paragraphs of text. Wording like "Simple EV spread" is fluffy and can be removed; focus on being terse and you'll do fine.
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    Sorry it took longer than I thought, I got busy with stuff. I think it's ready to be looked at?
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    Please use actual bullet point formatting for your sections. Check out other finished threads in this forum to see what I mean and how to do it. Also, break the paragraph that is the DW section up into bullet points.
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    Okay, that's done, sorry it took a while.
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    Doesn't Gamageroge get Earth Power as an Egg move? It should be used over Focus Blast, IMO because of said move's crappy accuracy.
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    Overview point 3 could be split into two separate points, one for Swift Swim, and one for Poison Hand. Mentioning 2 abilities in the same point is a bit confusing.
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    Focus Blast hits Nattorei super-effective; Earth Power is neutral.
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