On Contrary Gira,
run V-Create or Close Combat over Leaf Storm.
run V-Create or Close Combat over Leaf Storm.
Another option for ho-oh is head smash, which nails lugia and shuckle.Hey guys, let's share some sets that we've been using that are very effective. Make sure you have actually tested these sets and that they aren't outclassed by anything.
Here is one that I've been enjoying:
Ho-Oh
Trait: Magic Guard
Jolly Nature (+Spe, -SAtk)
- Flare Blitz / Sacred Fire
- Brave Bird
- Hi Jump Kick
- Roost
Not only is Ho-Oh a powerful attacker, but it can check various special threats as well thanks to its amazingly high Special Defense stat. Its 4x weakness to Stealth Rock is fixed with Magic Guard, and to abuse Magic Guard even further, Life Orb, Flare Blitz, and Brave Bird are used, turning Ho-Oh into a very powerful attacker. Hi Jump Kick rounds out the coverage. When Ho-Oh's health is low, it can just Roost off damage. Sacred Fire can be used over Flare Blitz for its 50% chance to burn, but many Pokemon in Hackmons carry Lum Berry, its noticeably weaker than Flare Blitz, and it doesn't even have a guaranteed chance of burning. The slight miss chance is annoying as well.
What sets have you guys been finding effective? Also, keep in mind that you don't have to post the EV's and IV's.
Also, I might host a Balanced Hackmons tournament on Pokemon Showdown! later today if anyone is interested.
Arcticuno>DelibirdI managed to recover one of my teams from a floppy disc (I know, I know, who the hell uses floppies anymore? In my crazy logic, that makes small files the safest of all. Most potential thieves have no way to extract the information!)
Barney (Delibird) @ Fire Gem
Trait: Drought
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Def / 252 SAtk / 252 SDef / 252 Spd
Modest Nature
- Searing Shot
- Hidden Power [Electric]
- Present
- Acrobatics
Comment: Delibird has resulted in the most KO's of all these guys. I'll let that settle in. I guess people just do not expect Fire Delibird. Present is just there for giggles.
Halla (Arceus) @ Zap Plate
Trait: Multitype
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Def / 252 SAtk / 252 SDef / 252 Spd
Modest Nature
- Judgment
- Fiery Dance
- Flame Charge
- Close Combat
Comment: Was Solar Power Arceus-Fire w/Choice Scarf until the update making it impossible to have different forms of Arceus without Multitype and the appropriate plate. Fiery Dance boosts SPA, making Judgment more of a threat. Flame Charge is for the speed boost, duh. Zap Plate is mostly to counter Ho-Oh/Lugia. The only ground you need to worry about is Groudon.
Mufasa (Entei) @ Leftovers
Trait: Scrappy
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Def / 252 SAtk / 252 SDef / 252 Spd
Hasty Nature
- ExtremeSpeed
- Surf
- Searing Shot
- Toxic
Comment: Used to be Chlorophyl, but it didn't really work out. Plan on replacing Searing Shot, just not sure with what. Anyways, STAB Searing Shot in intense sunlight. Toxic is just the go-to status effect. Surf for Groudon, Arceus-Fire, Reshiram, and Ho-Oh. Scrappy ExtremeSpeed to have fun with Giratina. If you find a way to boost Entei's ATK, I imagine endless cursing.
Squishy (Genesect) @ Lum Berry
Trait: Flash Fire
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Def / 252 SAtk / 252 SDef / 252 Spd
Naive Nature
- X-Scissor
- Aeroblast
- Spikes
- Stealth Rock
Comment: Flash Fire angers all. Inspired by Flash Fire Ferrothorn. X-Scissor for the Dark mons you encounter and for the STAB. Aeroblast for... for... I cannot remember why it has Aeroblast. I guess for the mindscrews. Don't need to explain the last 2.
Zorro (Keldeo) @ Leftovers
Trait: Flower Gift
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Def / 252 SAtk / 252 SDef / 252 Spd
Modest Nature
- Surf
- Secret Sword
- Hidden Power [Fire]
- Return
Comment: Surf so that I have a regular powered Water move in the event of something weak to Water. Secret Sword because I like Secret Sword. Return for a guaranteed 100+ BP move. HP Fire for sun boost. Flower Gift because it boosts Surf and HP Fire (not sure about Secret Sword).
Zilla (Groudon) @ Leftovers
Trait: Prankster
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Def / 252 SAtk / 252 SDef / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature
- Nature Power
- Softboiled
- Substitute
- Spore
Comment: Just the basic Prankster Groudon. I know, I know, why Softboiled instead of Roost, Recover, Heal Order, Synthesis, Moonlight, Milk Drink, Slack Off, Wish, or Morning Sun? My answer? Roost, Recover, Heal Order, Slack Off, Milk Drink, and Softboiled are all the same move, more or less. Synthesis, Moonlight, and Morning Sun are all the same move. Wish is Wish. If I have to choose, I'll choose one that heals the same amount regardless of weather conditions and are not delayed.
Yes, even me love this: the current metagame balanced is simple:
Giratina + Slaking + Deoxys S + 3 ubers random or two ubers and Shedinja.
Is simple too boring, to avoid eliminating the variety, is possible should create different tiers?
I'd like to test an LC metagame hacked, to see what comes out.
Ubers would consist of 8 mons.I have a request: is possible make the inferior tier in the Hackmon balanced metagame?
Because is simply boring fight against the only 10-20 Pokémons.
So basically, make this tier:
- BH Under Used
- BH Nerver Used
- BH Little Cup
But then calling Delibird Barney wouldn't make sense. Nor would my opening lines of "He loves you, he loves me, please put him out of his misery."Arcticuno>Delibird
Same type, and articuno has better stats
I GOTS IT!But is possible make different tier for the BH fights? I am appassionate of this competion, i hope to fight this metagame even in tier below the standard tier.
LC Hackmons would be awesome for example, IMHO.
LC Hackmons/Balanced Hackmons would be far easier to implement than Over Used, Under Used, Rarely Used, and Never Used tiers. LC does not require frequency of use, just whether or not it is the first evolution of a pokemon line. OU, UU, RR, and NU require frequency of use. As such, there are about 8 Uber Pokemon, 6 Over Used Pokemon, and 635 other pokemon that haven't seen the light of day. How would you divide it up in that situation? The ground work of BH and Hackmons are different than regular pokemon. Abilities and possible movesets are out the window. The only thing that truly matters is typing and stats. Because of that, using the same tiering system of regular pokemon (which is dependent on moves legally learned, abilities, stats, typing, and frequency of use) is inappropriate.But is possible make different tier for the BH fights? I am appassionate of this competion, i hope to fight this metagame even in tier below the standard tier.
LC Hackmons would be awesome for example, IMHO.
The shedinja can't really do anything because if it attacks it dies to blisseys rocky helmet when I switch it in.One problem I see with your team is that it get's owned by Shedinja, since it can come in all of them once you start attacking
The OP lists everything that is banned: Wonder Guard, OHKO moves, and Pure Power.Can someone point me in the direction of Balanced Hackmon's rule list? I haven't played for a couple of months and now I'm being told huge power regi is banned.
Attack Order says hiThe shedinja can't really do anything because if it attacks it dies to blisseys rocky helmet when I switch it in.