Gengar (Analysis)

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[Overview]

<p>There’s so much more to Gengar’s malevolent exterior- in fact, Gengar is even more terrifying in practice than its appearance. Gengar still makes a potent offensive threat in the new generation thanks to its power, unpredictability, and excellent offensive movepool. Its set of immunities help it switch into common moves with impunity, giving it ample opportunities to come in and wreak havoc. Despite Gengar’s positive traits as a sweeper, it does have two notable drawbacks: having paper-thin defensive stats, which makes it take massive damage even from neutral attacks, and being weak to Dark-type moves, which leaves it vulnerable to Pursuit if it isn’t hiding behind a Substitute. However, the newly added Team Preview does allow for the scouting of possible Pursuit users, making the latter drawback less threatening. Don’t let Gengar’s atrocious defensive stats discourage you though, because its offensive potency can definitely disrupt unprepared teams.</p>

[Set]
name: Substitute + Disable
move 1: Substitute
move 2: Disable
move 3: Shadow Ball
move 4: Focus Blast
item: Leftovers
nature: Timid
evs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

[Set Comments]

<p>This is one of Gengar’s deadliest sets to use with the proper timing. With Disable being upgraded to perfect accuracy in the new generation, Gengar can take advantage of this to great effect with its useful immunities combined with Substitute. The simple premise of this set is to hide behind a Substitute to overcome Pursuit users, avoid paralysis, and to make Disable easier to pull off. Common walls such as Ferrothorn and Blissey, who rely on one attacking move to deal with Gengar,find themselves in a very tight position after their move has been Disabled. Even sweepers that use two coverage moves find themselves in very tight situations; prime examples include Substitute Garchomp, Conkeldurr without Stone Edge, and Gliscor. Gengar’s great neutral coverage lets it batter many Pokemon for high damage, making it difficult to wall. With the prevalence of sandstorm in the metagame, Leftovers is the main option to provide more opportunities to use Substitute and conserve health.</p>

[Additional Comments]

<p>Life Orb gives Gengar that impressive kick to deal more damage; but, the sandstorm damage and recoil might defeat the purpose of this set, so you might want to just stick with Leftovers.</p>

<p>Entry hazards allow for optimal performance for this set thanks to Gengar’s ability to force a ton of switches. Ferrothorn makes an excellent option for providing entry hazards, and it can serve as bait for Pokemon like Gliscor and Conkeldurr, all of whom can give Gengar an opportunity to switch in when timed correctly. Forretress has access to Toxic Spikes, which makes it easier to deal with certain walls. Offensively, Deoxys-S makes a great partner thanks to its ability to sweep mindlessly after the opposing team is battered by residual damage.</p>

[Set]
name: Substitute + Pain Split
move 1: Substitute
move 2: Shadow Ball
move 3: Focus Blast
move 4: Pain Split
item: Life Orb
nature: Timid
evs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

[Set Comments]

<p>The Pain Split set is akin to the Disable set, but the approach to this set is much more offensive. Pain Split acts like a third attacking move capable of muscling through typical counters with massive HP stats, such as Blissey, Chansey, and Snorlax. Furthermore, Pain Split works perfectly with Substitute and Life Orb at the same time, and even benefits from the residual damage from sandstorm and hail. The closer Gengar's health bar gets to zero, the more HP Gengar can suck away from its opponents. Gengar’s coverage is impressive, and it can act as a failsafe sweeper at any given time even with the absence of an extra coverage move.</p>

<p>The combination of Substitute and Pain Split allows Gengar to take out Pokemon it normally would not be able to, most notably Blissey. After Substitute and two Pain Splits (or one if sandstorm is in effect), Blissey's health will be low enough that Focus Blast 2HKOes. This means that Blissey will be forced to constantly heal herself or risk being KOed. Pain Split has 32 PP, while Wish and Softboiled have 16, meaning that Gengar can easily stall Blissey out. Finally, most Blissey are unable to break Gengar's Substitutes, meaning Gengar can usually come out of the duel unscathed.</p>

[Additional Comments]

<p>Toxic Spikes is the most beneficial form of entry hazard to use with this set in order to hasten the damaging process against the likes of Blissey. Forretress makes an excellent supporter who can provide all types of hazards, especially Toxic Spikes. Ferrothorn makes a great partner, able to open up opportunities for Gengar to switch in, in addition to providing entry hazards. Heatran should also be considered as an offensive partner due to its ability to draw in more opportunities for Gengar to switch in. Gengar has such atrocious defenses that it's actually quite difficult to pull off strategies like this, so always consider Pokemon that draw in Normal- and Ground-type attacks for Gengar to switch in on.</p>

<p>With such a direct approach to this set, Gengar is highly capable of beating many special walls with some good timing. As a result, it is recommended that Gengar is paired with sweepers who would normally have a difficult time bypassing said walls. Thundurus, Volcorona, and Choice Specs Politoed make fine offensive partners who are all capable of sweeping after these special walls are eliminated.</p>

[Set]
name: Substitute + 3 Attacks
move 1: Substitute
move 2: Hidden Power Fire / Thunderbolt
move 3: Shadow Ball
move 4: Focus Blast
item: Leftovers / Life Orb
nature: Timid
evs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

[Set Comments]

<p>This set is similar to the previous two, except gaining one coverage move to specifically hit its counters who take neutral damage from Focus Blast. Due to the popularity of the previous two sets, Hidden Power Fire is sometimes neglected as a possible third move that can unexpectedly smash Scizor, Escavalier, and Ferrothorn for the OHKO. Hidden Power Fire also hits Specially Defensive Skarmory, Bronzong, and Jirachi for super effective damage, possibly 2HKOing Jirachi with Spikes on the field. Since Focus Blast’s inability to hit consistently is such a letdown, Hidden Power Fire makes a great choice to use over Thunderbolt for hitting Steel-types. However, Thunderbolt is still a useful alternative if bulky Water-types like Gyarados, Suicune, and Vaporeon prove to be a nuisance to the team. As usual, Substitute is an absolute requirement for this set to act as a safety blanket against Pursuit users and status inducers. The item selection for this set is a toss-up; Leftovers allows for more survivability, while Life Orb increases damage output needed for OHKOs and 2HKOs on Pokemon like Ferrothorn and Jirachi.</p>

[Additional Comments]

<p>Maximum Special Attack and Speed with a Timid nature provides the most sweeping potency. Even with the Speed drop from Hidden Power Fire, Gengar is still a speed point ahead of the musketeers, and outpaces anything below them. However, it is recommended to have a sturdy Latios and Latias counter now that Gengar’s Speed is a point lower than them.</p>

<p>Protect was a lot more effective back in the 4th Generation due to the prevalence of Choiced Pursuit users like Scizor and Tyranitar. However, they are no longer as popular as they were, making Protect a barely adequate option to use over Substitute. It can still be used to conserve HP and scout for the occasional Choiced trapper.</p>

<p>Offensive Dragon-types like Haxorus, Garchomp, and Salamence make excellent choices for partners thanks to Gengar’s ability to draw in either Steel-types or bulky Water-types and weaken them with highly damaging attacks. Garchomp in particular can switch into Blissey’s Thunder Wave with impunity. Fighting-types like Terrakion or Lucario make perfectly good partners should Gengar be KOed by a Choice-locked Pursuit user. The free turn allows them to set up their respective stat-up moves and possibly sweep.</p>

[Other Options]

<p>Choice Scarf is a viable set to use thanks to Gengar's great set of immunities and high Special Attack stat. However, Gengar is merely a one-trick pony for revenge killing since its unimpressive defensive stats and weakness to Pursuit means it wouldn't last very long otherwise. With the amount of Tyranitar and Scizor in the metagame, it’s very difficult to revenge kill efficiently. Gengar can use Explosion over Substitute on the Substitute + 3 Attacks set to provide coverage against dedicated special walls. However, the effectiveness of that option has been significantly reduced in the new generation with the unfortunate downgrade of Explosion. Gengar is better off using Substitute to shield itself from common Pursuit users and priority moves.</p>

<p>With such a diverse movepool, Gengar can easily catch typical counters off-guard with the appropriate move. Gengar has access to both Hypnosis and Will-O-Wisp; the former can sleep a counter and effectively remove it from the battle, while the latter can be used to spread burn status on physical counters like Tyranitar and Scizor. It's important to note the aforementioned moves' shaky accuracy and one miss can be fatal due to Gengar’s atrocious defensive stats. Gengar is therefore better off firing attacks than spreading status around. Gengar can also use Sludge Bomb for an alternative STAB move, but it's usually an underwhelming choice due to its poor type coverage.</p>

[Counters and Checks]

<p>Gengar’s pool of counters in the new generation has reduced slightly with the fresh accuracy boost of Disable, making it a difficult threat to beat directly. The best way to counter Gengar is to exploit its weak defenses and prevent it from switching in easily or setting up Substitute. If Gengar happens to switch in easily, Tyranitar with Chople Berry can beat Gengar provided it comes in on Shadow Ball; otherwise,it is going to get 2HKOed by Focus Blast. Specially Defensive Jirachi with Iron Head and a secondary attacking move that can hit it neutrally can check Gengar. Blissey is a safe answer to the Substitute + 3 Attacks set, and the Pain Split set to a lesser extent. However, the only way Blissey can beat it is by strategically stalling out Gengar’s Focus Blast PP with Wish and Protect. Specially Defensive Scizor with Pursuit and Bullet Punch can trouble Gengar that lack Hidden Power Fire. Gengar is unable to Disable either of Scizor's moves, while the Pain Split set has trouble dealing significant damage with Focus Blast. Specially Defensive Spiritomb with 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD and a Calm nature is able to withstand any hit easily and threaten Gengar with Pursuit, Shadow Sneak, or Sucker Punch.</p>
 
#2
Leftovers should definitely be the primary option on the sub + disable set, as Gengar will definitely need to make multiple consecutive subs in every game.
 

Bloo

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#4
Nice work, franky.

I've used Disable Gengar extensively throughout the current suspect round, and can say that Leftovers is far better than Life Orb. Leftovers helps Gengar stick around far longer than LO, which is extremely important if you want to keep abusing Sub + Disable. Make Leftovers the main slash.

That's all. (looks like Snunch beat me to it!)

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#6
Looks good, we decided that Thunderbolt should be slashed alongside Hidden Power Fire on the Sub Three Attacks set.

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#8
I think it needs a Choice set i mean if i was a visitor on Smogon i would want a Choice set something like this:

Set name: Choice
Move 1: Shadow Ball
Move 2: Focus Blast
Move 3: Thunderbolt / Giga Drain
Move 4: Hidden Power Fire / Hidden Power Ice
Item: Choice Specs / Choice Scarf
Nature: Timid / Modest
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

Just an idea but i'm sure the people would like one.
 
#9
The thing is locking gengar is bad by all means, it's too frail. For example the set you sugested is pretty much a invitation to tyranitar, which barring focus blast of course, can come in pretty much anything and pursuit him; also walls can come in resisted moves and throw status.

Finally is not like specs get KO's that LO versions don't.

It could serve (the scarf) to outspace very specific things, but i think for the OP that a simple AC mention would be more than enough.

Edit: franky already said that on optional changes, meh.
 
#10
Sub + Disable Gengar can still set up on Conkeldurr with Stone Edge as long as it switches in on a Fighting move since it is faster and can set up a sub and then disable afterwards.
 
#11
Not sure if this has been dismissed for some reason already, but protect + Disable serves a pretty similar purpose, and can scout priority moves that would kill him before he could get a sub up.
 
#12
Not sure if this has been dismissed for some reason already, but protect + Disable serves a pretty similar purpose, and can scout priority moves that would kill him before he could get a sub up.
I'm quite sure that Gengar would really appreciate being able to Substitute after it Disable's something because a free Sub is too hard to pass up, especially on something as frail as Gengar.
 
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[Overview]

<p>Gengar makes such a potent offensive threat with its power, unpredictability, and excellent offensive movepool. Gengar’s set of immunities help it switch into common moves with impunity, giving it ample opportunity to come in and wreck havoc. Despite some of Gengar’s positive impact as a sweeper, it does have two notable drawbacks;: mainly having paper-thin defensive stats which make it take massive damage even from neutral attacks, and being weak to Dark-type moves which leaves it vulnerable to Pursuit if it isn’t hiding behind a Substitute. However, the newly added team preview allows Gengar to scout for possible Pursuit users, making the latter drawback sound less threatening. Don’t let Gengar’s atrocious defensive stat discourage you though, because its offensive potency can definitely disrupt unprepared teams.</p>

[Set]
name: Substitute + Disable
move 1: Substitute
move 2: Disable
move 3: Shadow Ball
move 4: Focus Blast
item: Leftovers
ability: Levitate
nature: Timid
evs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

[Set Comments]

<p>This is one of Gengar’s deadliest sets to use with the proper timing. With Disable being fine-tuned in the new generation, Gengar can take advantage of this to great effect with its useful immunities combined with Substitute. The simple premise is to hide behind a Substitute to overcome Pursuit-users, avoid paralysis, and make use of Disable easier. Common walls like Ferrothorn and Blissey who use one attacking move to deal with Gengar find themselves in a very tight position after their move has been Disabled. Even sweepers that use two-coverage moves such as Substitute Garchomp, Conkeldurr without Stone Edge, and Gliscor find themselves in very tight positions. Gengar’s great neutral coverage lets it batter on many Pokemon for high damage, making it difficult to wall. With the prevalence of Sandstorm in the metagame, Leftovers is the main option to provide more opportunities to use Substitute and conserve health.

[Additional Comments]

<p>Life Orb gives Gengar that impressive kick to deal more damage,; however, but sandstorm damage and recoil might deter the purpose of this set.</p>

<p>Entry hazards allow for optimal performance for this set thanks to Gengar’s ability to enforce a ton of switches due to the inability of its opponent hitting to hit it. Ferrothorn makes an excellent option for proving entry hazards and it can serve as bait for Pokemon like Gliscor and Conkeldurr, which give Gengar an opportunity to switch-in when timed correctly. Forretress has access to Toxic Spikes, which makes it easier to deal with certain walls. Offensively, Deoxys-S makes a great partner with its ability to sweep mindlessly after everything has taken a massive amount of residual damage.</p>

[Set]
name: Substitute + Pain Split
move 1: Substitute
move 2: Shadow Ball
move 3: Focus Blast
move 4: Pain Split
item: Life Orb
ability: Levitate
nature: Timid
evs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

[Set Comments]

<p>The Pain Split set is akin to the Disable set, but the approach to this set is much more offensive. Pain Split acts like a third-attacking move capable of muscling towards through typical counters with massive HP stats like Blissey, Chansey, and Snorlax. Furthermore, Pain Split works perfectly with Substitute and Life Orb at the same time, all the while taking so much residual damage from sandstorm and hail. The closer that the health bar drops to zero, only increases the amount of the more HP that Gengar sucks away from its opponents. Gengar’s coverage is an impressive one and can act as a fail safe sweeper at any given time even with the absence of an extra coverage move.</p>

<p>The combination of Substitute and Pain Split allows Gengar to take out Pokémon it normally would not be able to, most notably Blissey. After Substitute and two Pain Splits (or one if sandstorm is in effect), Blissey's health will low enough so that Focus Blast is a 2HKO. This means that Blissey will be forced to constantly heal herself or risk being KOed. Pain Split has 32 PP, while Wish and Softboiled have 16, meaning that Gengar can easily stall Blissey out. If Blissey does not use a healing move to conserve PP, then she is at huge risk of being 2HKOed by Focus Blast. Finally, most Blissey are unable to break Gengar's Substitutes, meaning it can usually come out of the duel unscathed.</p>

[Additional Comments]

<p>Toxic Spikes is the most beneficial form of entry hazard to use with this type of strategy in order to hasten the battling process against the likes of Blissey. Forretress makes an excellent option who can provide all types of hazards, especially Toxic Spikes. Ferrothorn makes a great partner as always by being able to open up opportunities for Gengar to switch-in and provide entry hazards. Heatran should also be considered as an offensive partner with its ability to draw in more opportunities for Gengar to switch-in. Gengar has such atrocious defenses that it makes it difficult to pull off strategies like this, so always consider Pokemon that draw in attacks for Gengar.</p>

<p>With such a direct approach to this set, Gengar is highly capable of beating many special walls with a bit of difficulty. As a result, it is recommended that Gengar is paired with sweepers who would normally have a difficult time bypassing them. Thundurus, Volcorona, and Choice Specs Politoad Politoed make fine offensive partners capable of sweeping after these special walls are eliminated.

[Set]
name: Substitute + 3 Attacks
move 1: Substitute
move 2: Hidden Power Fire / Thunderbolt
move 3: Shadow Ball
move 4: Focus Blast
item: Leftovers / Life Orb
ability: Levitate
nature: Timid
evs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

[Set Comments]

<p>This is similar to the previous two sets except gaining one coverage move to specifically hit its counters who take neutral damage to from Focus Blast. Due to the popularity of the previous two sets, Hidden Power Fire is sometimes neglected as a possible third move and it can unexpectedly smash Scizor, Escavalier, and Nattorei Ferrothorn for the OHKO. Hidden Power Fire also damages Special Defensive Skarmory, Bronzong, and Jirachi for super effective damage, possibly 2HKOing Jirachi with Spikes on the field. Since Focus Blast’s inability to hit consistently is such a let down, Hidden Power Fire makes a great choice to use over Thunderbolt for hitting Steel-types. However, Thunderbolt is still a useful alternative if bulky Water-types like Gyarados, Suicune, and Vaporeon prove to be nuisances to the team. Substitute is an absolute requirement for this set as usual to act as a safety blanket against Pursuit users and status inducers. The item selection for this set is a toss-up; Leftovers allows for more survivability, while Life Orb increases damage output needed to form OHKOs and 2HKOs on Pokemon like Nattorei Ferrothorn and Jirachi.</p>

[Additional Comments]

<p>Maximum Special Attack and Speed with a Timid nature provides the most sweeping potency. Even with the Speed drop from Hidden Power Fire, Gengar is still a speed point ahead of the musketeers and anything below them. However, it is recommended to have a sturdy Latios and Latias counter now that Gengar’s Speed is a point lower than them.</p>

<p>Protect was a lot more effective back then with the prevalence of Choiced Pursuit-users like Scizor and Tyranitar. However, they are not longer as popular, making Protect a moderate option to use over Substitute. It can still be used to conserve HP and scout for the occasional Choiced trappers.</p>

<p>Offensive Dragon-types like Haxorus, Garchomp, Salamence make excellent choices for partners thanks to Gengar’s ability to draw in either Steel-types or Water-types and weaken them with high damage output. Garchomp in particular can switch into Blissey’s Thunder Wave with impunity.</p>



[Team Options]
• Ferrothorn makes an excellent partner for providing entry hazard support, allowing the benefit of luring in threats like Garchomp and Conkeldurr, which open up set-up opportunity opportunities for Gengar.
• Forretress is another candidate for setting up entry hazards and can particularly set up Toxic Spikes for the Sub + Pain Split set.
• Garchomp is an excellent partner for dealing with Jirachi, Blissey and Chansey. It can soak up Thunder Wave and threaten them with any physical oriented set bar Scarf.
• Fighting-types like Terrakion or Lucario make perfectly good partners should Gengar be suspected to Pursuited. It helps them set up and sweep.
• Conkeldurr can switch in on Blissey and threaten it easily. It can also lure in Gliscor, which allows Gengar to have a free switch-in.
[Optional Changes]
A Choice Scarf set could be used, but its very exposed to trapping.
• LO + 4 attacks is a good option but the Explosion nerf is a downside.
• Sludge Bomb is Gengar’s strongest STAB move but has okay type coverage in the metagame.
• Hypnosis and Will-O-Wisp are useful status moves, but the accuracy is such a let down that Gengar can’t afford to miss due to its fragility.
[Counters]
• Tyranitar with Chople Berry is a safe answer to many of the sets listed.
• Specially Defensive Jirachi with Iron Head and Fire Punch
• Blissey can stall Focus Blast PP and beat Gengar without Pain Split or Disable with Ice Beam
• Specially Defensive Spiritomb can trap and kill Gengar easily
 

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#16
you should probably note somewhere that blacksludge can be used over lefties
It's generally inferior due to Trick users and their being able to cripple a Pokemon when they DO get Black Sludge.

Also, since Calm Mind Reuniclus is such a major threat, I'm surprised it's not mentioned in the Disable set due Gengar being able to wall Reuniclus on Focus Blast. In any case, it can also disable Calm Mind to prevent it from setting up any further.
 
#17
You can't really beat Reuniclus though without a lucky crit after you disable Psychic, as it'll just Calm Mind up and Recover the damage and it's immune to Toxic.
 

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#18
I think you should add Pain Split in A/C for Disable Gengar. It gives it that occasional needed health boost it needs to handle a threat. Despite the fact Focus Blast gives it great coveredge, I feel that Pain Split should be at least mentioned.
 
#19
ven sweepers that use two-coverage moves such as Substitute Garchomp, Conkeldurr without Stone Edge, and Gliscor find themselves in very tight positions.
Stone Edge generally replaces Payback, not its Fighting attacks, so it would still be vulnerable to Disable. So you can remove the "without Stone Edge" part.
 
#20
Btw, if Scarf can be an option, shouldn't you might as well go ahead and add Specs as a option too? I mean, same fragility, but least would be packing quite the punch...
 
#21
Scarf Gengar is meant to be a good check to pokemon that increase their speed such as Gyarados or Salamence and threaten them with a KO with an appropriate move.

Spec Gengar can't do what the above does and really isn't the best Specs user around due to its Pursuit weakness.
 
#22
Scarf Gengar is meant to be a good check to pokemon that increase their speed such as Gyarados or Salamence and threaten them with a KO with an appropriate move.

Spec Gengar can't do what the above does and really isn't the best Specs user around due to its Pursuit weakness.

Oh no, I realise its gimicky. But it also has alot of the same vulnurabilities as both the scarf set and 4 move LO set mentioned in other options. Not worth a real set and alayasis but I thought the other options mentions might be worth while.
 

franky

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#23
done..

a few comments though for the suggestions

(1) black sludge is terrible because it can be tricked back to your team. leftovers is the supreme option over it.

(2) choice specs stinks cause it has terrible stabs and its typing is weak. lo is superior to it and you mgith as well use lo +4 attacks. difference with choice scarf is that it has a purpose for revenge killing.

(3) in regards to stone edge biz, i was thinking about the occasional bulk up + 3 atks conkeldurr while writing so i should probably specify that thanks people
 

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[Overview]

<p>There’s so much more to Gengar’s somber malevolent exterior- in fact, Gengar is even more terrifying in practice than its appearance. Gengar still makes such a potent offensive threat in the new generation, with its power, unpredictability, and excellent offensive movepool. Gengar’s Its set of immunities help it switch into common moves with impunity, giving it ample opportunities to come in and wreck wreak havoc. Despite some of Gengar’s positive traits impact as a sweeper, it does have two notable drawbacks: having paper-thin defensive stats which make it take massive damage even from neutral attacks, and being weak to Dark-type moves which leave it vulnerable to Pursuit if it isn’t hiding behind a Substitute. However, the newly added Team Preview does allow for the scouting of Gengar to scout for possible Pursuit users, making the latter drawback sound less threatening. Don’t let Gengar’s atrocious defensive stats discourage you though, because its offensive potency can definitely disrupt unprepared teams.</p>

[Set]
name: Substitute + Disable
move 1: Substitute
move 2: Disable
move 3: Shadow Ball
move 4: Focus Blast
item: Leftovers
ability: Levitate
nature: Timid
evs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

[Set Comments]

<p>This is one of Gengar’s deadliest sets to use with the proper timing. With Disable being fine-tuned upgraded to perfect accuracy in the new generation, Gengar can take advantage of this to great effect with its useful immunities combined with Substitute. The simple premise of this set is to hide behind a Substitute to overcome Pursuit-users, avoid paralysis, and to make use of Disable easier. Common walls like Ferrothorn and Blissey who use rely on one attacking move to deal with Gengar find themselves in a very tight position after their move has been Disabled. Even sweepers that use two coverage moves find themselves in very tight situations, prime examples include such as Substitute Garchomp, Conkeldurr without Stone Edge, and Gliscor find themselves in very tight positions. Gengar’s great neutral coverage lets it batter many Pokemon for high damage, making it difficult to wall. With the prevalence of Sand Stream in the metagame, Leftovers is the main option to provide more opportunities to use Substitute and conserve health.

[Additional Comments]

<p>Life Orb gives Gengar that impressive kick to deal more damage; but the sandstorm damage and recoil might deter defeat the purpose of this set.</p>

<p>Entry hazards allow for optimal performance for this set thanks to Gengar’s ability to enforce a ton of switches due to the inability of its opponent hitting it. Ferrothorn makes an excellent option for providing proving entry hazards and it can serve as bait for Pokemon like Gliscor and Conkeldurr, which all of whom can give Gengar an opportunity to switch in when timed correctly. Forretress has access to Toxic Spikes, which makes it easier to deal with certain walls. Offensively, Deoxys-S makes a great partner with its ability to sweep mindlessly after everything has taken massive amounts of residual damage.</p>

[Set]
name: Substitute + Pain Split
move 1: Substitute
move 2: Shadow Ball
move 3: Focus Blast
move 4: Pain Split
item: Life Orb
ability: Levitate
nature: Timid
evs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

[Set Comments]

<p>The Pain Split set is akin to the Disable set, but the approach to this set is much more offensive. Pain Split acts like a third attacking move capable of muscling towards typical counters with massive HP stats like Blissey, Chansey, and Snorlax. Furthermore, Pain Split works perfectly with Substitute and Life Orb at the same time, all the while taking so much and even benefits from the residual damage from sandstorm and hail. The closer that health bar drops to zero, the more only increases the amount of HP that Gengar can suck away from its opponents. Gengar’s coverage is an impressive one and it can act as a failsafe sweeper at any given time even with the absence of an extra coverage move.</p>

<p>The combination of Substitute and Pain Split allows Gengar to take out Pokemon it normally would not be able to, most notably Blissey. After Substitute and two Pain Splits (or one if sandstorm is in effect), Blissey's health will be low enough so that Focus Blast is a 2HKO. This means that Blissey will be forced to constantly heal herself or risk being KOed. Pain Split has 32 PP, while Wish and Softboiled have 16, meaning that Gengar can easily stall Blissey out. If Blissey does not use a healing move to conserve PP, then she is at huge risk of being 2HKOed by Focus Blast. Finally, most Blissey are unable to break Gengar's Substitutes, meaning it Gengar can usually come out of the duel unscathed.</p>

[Additional Comments]

<p>Toxic Spikes is the most beneficial form of entry hazard to use with this type of strategy in order to hasten the damaging battling process against the likes of Blissey. Forretress makes an excellent supporter option who can provide all types of hazards, especially Toxic Spikes. Ferrothorn makes a great partner as always by being able to open up opportunities for Gengar to switch in, in addition to providing and provide entry hazards. Heatran should also be considered as an offensive partner with its ability to draw in more opportunities for Gengar to switch in. Gengar has such atrocious defenses that it makes it it's actually quite difficult to pull strategies like this, so always consider Pokemon that draw in immune attacks for Gengar to switch in on.</p>

<p>With such a direct approach to this set, Gengar is highly capable of beating many special walls with some good timing a bit of difficulty. As a result, it is recommended that Gengar is paired with sweepers who would normally have a difficult time bypassing them said walls. Thundurus, Volcorona, and Choice Specs Politoed make fine offensive partners who are all capable of sweeping after these special walls are eliminated.

[Set]
name: Substitute + 3 Attacks
move 1: Substitute
move 2: Hidden Power Fire / Thunderbolt
move 3: Shadow Ball
move 4: Focus Blast
item: Leftovers / Life Orb
ability: Levitate
nature: Timid
evs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

[Set Comments]

<p>This is similar to the previous two sets except gaining one coverage move to specifically hit its counters who take neutral damage from Focus Blast. Due to the popularity of the previous two sets, Hidden Power Fire is sometimes neglected as a possible third move and it can unexpectedly smash Scizor, Escavalier, and Ferrothorn for the OHKO. Hidden Power Fire also damages hits Specially Defensive Skarmory, Bronzong, and Jirachi for super effective damage, possibly 2HKOing Jirachi with Spikes on the field. Since Focus Blast’s inability to hit consistently is such a letdown, Hidden Power Fire makes a great choice to use over Thunderbolt for hitting Steel-types. However, Thunderbolt is still a useful alternative if bulky Water-types like Gyarados, Suicune, and Vaporeon prove to be a nuisance to the team. Substitute is an absolute requirement for this set as usual to act as a safety blanket against Pursuit users and status inducers. The item selection for this set is a toss-up; Leftovers allows for more survivability, while Life Orb increases damage output needed to form for OHKOs and 2HKOs on Pokemon like Ferrothorn and Jirachi.</p>

[Additional Comments]

<p>Maximum Special Attack and Speed with a Timid nature provides the most sweeping potency. Even with the Speed drop from Hidden Power Fire, Gengar is still a speed point ahead of the musketeers and outpaces anything below them. However, it is recommended to have a sturdy Latios and Latias counter now that Gengar’s Speed is a point lower than them.</p>

<p>Protect was a lot more effective back in 4th Gen, then with the prevalence of Choiced Pursuit users like Scizor and Tyranitar. However, they are not no longer as popular as they were before, making Protect a moderate barely adequate option to use over Substitute. It can still be used to conserve HP and scout for the occasional Choiced trapper.</p>

<p>Offensive Dragon-types like Haxorus, Garchomp, and Salamence make excellent choices for partners thanks to Gengar’s ability to draw in either Steel-types or bulky Water-types and weaken them with high damage output highly damaging attacks. Garchomp in particular can switch into Blissey’s Thunder Wave with impunity.</p>

[Team Options]

<p>Entry hazard support is beneficial for every single set listed as it helps Gengar attain notable 2HKOes and OHKOes. Ferrothorn makes an excellent partner with its ability to provide entry hazards along with the added benefit of drawing in attacks to provide more opportunities for Gengar to switch-in. Toxic Spikes is particularly useful with the Pain Split set because it hastens battling process against the likes of Blissey. Forretress can play this role perfectly with access to all types of entry hazard and ability to draw in Conkeldurr.</p>

<p>Since Thunder Wave is often used to try and incapacitate Gengar’s sweeping prowess, Garchomp makes a fine offensive choice for switching it in. Swords Dance Garchomp can help deal with Specially Defensive Jirachi and lure in Bronzong. A boosted Swords Dance with Life Orb can 2HKO Bronzong with Fire Fang, leaving Bronzong to faint in two turns or severely hurt enough for Gengar to finish it. Fighting-types like Terrakion or Lucario make perfectly good partners should Gengar be killed by a Choice’d Pursuit move. The free turn allows them to set up their respective stat-up moves and possibly sweep. Blissey can still be a nuisance to Gengar by strategically stalling out its Focus Blast PP; as such, Conkeldurr can make use of its ability Guts to soak Thunder Wave and threaten it with a STAB Drain Punch. Since Conkeldurr will often lure in Gliscor, Gengar can use this opportunity to switch-in and set up Substitute easily.</p>


[Optional Changes]

<p>Choice Scarf is a viable set to use thanks to its Gengar's great set of immunities and high Special Attack stat. However, Gengar is merely a one-trick pony for revenge killing with since its unimpressive defensive stats and weakness to Pursuit means it wouldn't last very long otherwise. With the amount of Tyranitar and Scizor in the metagame, it’s very difficult to revenge kill efficiently. Gengar can use Explosion or Thunderbolt over Substitute on the Substitute + 3 Attacks set to provide optimal coverage against dedicated special walls. However, the effectiveness of that set option has been significantly reduced in the new generation with the unfortunate downgrade of Explosion. Gengar is better off using Substitute to shield itself from common Pursuit users and priority moves.</p>

<p>With such a diverse movepool, Gengar can easily catch typical counters off-guard with the appropriate move. Gengar has access to both Hypnosis and Will-O-Wisp; the former can be place a counter to sleep sleep a counter and effectively remove it from the battle, while the latter can be used to spread burn status on physical counters like Tyranitar and Scizor. It's important to note the aforementioned moves' shaky accuracy and one miss can take its toll be fatal with Gengar’s atrocious defensive stats. Gengar is therefore better off firing attacks than spreading status around. Gengar can also use Sludge Bomb for an alternate alternative STAB move, but it's essentially a poor choice due to its poor type coverage.</p>

[Counters and Checks]

<p>Gengar’s pool of counters in the new generation has reduced slightly with the fresh accuracy boost of Disable, making it a difficult threat to beat directly. The best way to counter Gengar is to exploit its weak defenses and prevent it from switching in easily or setting up Substitute. If Gengar happens to switch in easily, Tyranitar with Chople Berry can beat Gengar provided it comes in on Shadow Ball, otherwise it is going to get 2HKOed by Focus Blast. Specially Defensive Jirachi with Iron Head and a secondary attacking move that can hit it neutrally can check Gengar. Blissey is a safe answer to the Substitute + 3 Attacks set, and the Pain Split set to a lesser extent. However, the only way Blissey can face beat it is by strategically stalling out Gengar’s Focus Blast PP with Wish and Protect. Specially Defensive Scizor with Pursuit and Bullet Punch can trouble Gengar without that lack Hidden Power Fire easily. Gengar is unable to Disable either of Scizor's moves, while the Pain Split set has trouble dealing significant damage with Focus Blast. Specially Defensive Spiritomb with 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD with and a Calm nature is able to withstand any hit easily and threaten it Gengar with Pursuit, Shadow Sneak, or Sucker Punch.</p>


team options is no longer used since much of it is redundant with the content in additional comments, you can relocate the stuff about fighting-type partners elsewhere if you'd like

also levitate is gengar's only ability so no need to specify that on the sets