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Gliscor (BW2 Revamp) [QC 0/3]

Discussion in 'Locked / Outdated Analyses' started by TheWaddleDeeKing, Jan 16, 2013.

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  1. TheWaddleDeeKing


    Oct 7, 2012
    //First try at making a QC article, feedback is 100% appreciated.



    • BW2 puts Gliscor in an unfavorable position
    • New threats such, as Tornadus-T and Keldeo, run rampant throughout the tier
    • Old threats, such as Mamoswine, are now more used due to abilities and move tutors
    • Increase of Rain makes its life much harder
    • Landorus-T and Skarmory give it a run for its money as a defensive wall
    • Still retains good typing and defensive capabilities as well as Poison Heal
    • BW2 luckily gave him Stealth Rocks in conjunction with Poison Heal
    • Is mostly outclassed but Poison Heal still sets him apart from the rest


    Name: Physically Defensive
    Move1: Toxic
    Move2: Earthquake
    Move3: Taunt/Protect/Stealth Rocks
    Move4: Ice Fang/Facade/U-turn
    Item: Toxic Orb
    Ability: Poison Heal
    Nature: Impish
    ev's: 252 HP/ 184 Def/ 72 Spd

    [Set Comments]
    • Standard Gliscor set.
    • Amazing at walling physical sweepers like Terrakion.
    • 72 Speed ev's allow you to outrun Jolly Tyranitar.
    • Toxic and Protect allow you to wear down walls like Blissey.
    • Third move slot depends on what you want more; all are fine choices.
    • Final move for coverage: Ice Fang nails Dragon-types for super-effective damage, though Facade is more reliable. U-turn can shift momentum.

    [Additional Comments]
    • You may shift the EV's in your favor, if you wish for more speed or defense.
    • Struggles against Rain teams, bringing your own weather helps remedy the situation.
    • Certain physical attackers can still power their way through, such as Conkeldurr and Mamoswine.

    Name: SubToxic
    Move1: Toxic
    Move2: Substitute
    Move3: Earthquake
    Move4: Protect/Taunt
    Item: Toxic Orb
    Ability: Poison Heal
    Nature: Impish
    evs: 252 HP/ 252 Def/ 4 Spd

    [Set Comments]
    • SubToxic works particularly well due to great defense and Poison Heal.
    • Force a threat out and setup a Substitute; proceed to Toxic and Protect to rack up damage and regain health.
    • Maximum HP and defense in order to make it harder to break subs.

    [Additional Comments]
    • Complete Taunt bait.
    • ev's can be shifted for more special defense, although in most cases Tentacruel does the job better.
    • Unfortunately fails to work on some of the more physically oriented walls, such as Skarmory and Forretress.
    • As such, having a partner to remove them makes it easier to stall, such as Heatran or Magnezone.

    [Other Options]
    • Actually has quite a few listed, though most are outclassed in some way.
    • Roost can always be used for additional health recovery, though it's slightly redundant with Poison Heal.
    • Tailwind can boost your teams speed for a few turns.
    • Knock Off can hamper walls, though Toxic is generally better for these purposes.
    • Swords Dance can allow for a potentially bulky sweeper, and honestly Gliscor has the coverage to nail everything for a super-effective hit, however without any attack investment, attacks are still underwhelming. Even with some investment, Landorus-T outclasses it in most scenarios.
    • Baton Pass is certainly viable if you wish to Baton Pass a substitute to another Pokemon, though in most scenarios the opponent will bring something in to break the sub first.
    • Flying Gem Acrobatics can work in conjunction with Substitute and Swords Dance, as it counters most of its counters effectively, though is easily revenged killed by threats like Tornadus-T and Mamoswine when the sub is broken.
    • Fling + Acrobatics can work as well, though after you fling your Toxic Orb, you'll have a wasted slot and still fall prey to revenge killing.
    • Honestly any attacking set Gliscor has is almost entirely outclassed by Landorus-T, who sports better attack and the ability to force switches with Intimidate.

    [Checks and Counters]
    • Tornadus-T
    • Keldeo
    • Mamoswine
    • Bronzong
    • Conkeldurr
    • Rotom-W
    • Gyarados
    • Slowbro
    • Suicune
    • If lacking Taunt, other physical walls
    • Rain teams in general
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