Gorebyss

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[OVERVIEW]

Gorebyss is one of the best sweepers in the tier thanks in part to having a great boosting move in Shell Smash, which also lets it become a potent wallbreaker, as well as good Pokemon for rain teams thanks to a solid ability in Swift Swim, which makes up for its low Speed. However, it faces competition from Huntail as a Shell Smash sweeper, which has access to Sucker Punch to deal with faster Pokemon, and from Pokemon such as Golduck as a rain sweeper. Gorebyss's low Speed without a Shell Smash boost makes it easily taken out by naturally faster Pokemon such as Zebstrika and Simisage. Its below average Special Defense limits setup opportunities as well. On top of this, even with a Shell Smash boost, it can be easily revenge killed by Choice Scarf Pokemon such as Sawsbuck and Rotom-F and can be picked off by priority moves if in a weakened state.

[SET]
name: Shell Smash
move 1: Shell Smash
move 2: Hydro Pump
move 3: Ice Beam
move 4: Psychic
item: White Herb / Life Orb
ability: Swift Swim
nature: Modest
evs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Moves
========

Shell Smash gives Gorebyss a significant boost to its Special Attack and Speed but lowers its defenses. Hydro Pump is Gorebyss's STAB attack, hitting most of the metagame hard including Rock- and Fire-types such as Probopass and Monferno. Ice Beam lets Gorebyss handle Grass-types, which resist Hydro Pump, such as Roselia and Jumpluff. Psychic lets Gorebyss hit other Water-types, especially Politoed, which is immune to Hydro Pump due to Water Absorb and resists Ice Beam. It also lets Gorebyss OHKO Pokemon such as Machoke and Arbok without risking Hydro Pump missing. Surf is an option over Hydro Pump to have an accurate STAB attack at the cost of power.

Set Details
========

Running 252 EVs in Special Attack along with a Modest nature maximizes Gorebyss's damage output. 252 EVs in Speed allow Gorebyss to be as fast as possible to potentially sweep after a Shell Smash. A Timid nature can be run to outspeed Modest Electrode, Adamant Ninjask, and Choice Scarf Monferno, but doing so comes at a loss in power. White Herb restores Gorebyss's defenses after using Shell Smash so it isn't easily revenge killed, whereas Life Orb increases the amount of damage Gorebyss can deal out at the expense of lowering its health after every attack and making it easier to be revenge killed. Swift Swim is the preferred ability, as it doubles Gorebyss's Speed if it happens to be raining.

Usage Tips
========

Set up Shell Smash against Pokemon that can't do much to Gorebyss such as Metang. Gorebyss is best used as a mid- to late-game sweeper once faster Pokemon and priority users are eliminated. Avoid setting up against strong attackers such as Ursaring and Dodrio, as they can do a vast amount of damage to Gorebyss and hinder its ability to act as a sweeper. Gorebyss should also avoid setting up against faster Taunt users such as Misdreavus or against Pokemon that can carry Thunder Wave such as Kadabra.

Team Options
========

Dual screen support from Meowstic as well as Memento support from Pokemon such as Jumpluff and Misdreavus makes it easier for Gorebyss to set up. If using dual screen or Memento support, other setup sweepers such as Rock Polish Regice and Dragon Dance Fraxure are good partners to have if Gorebyss doesn't have a favorable matchup. Entry hazard support from Pokemon such as Golem, Stunfisk, and Metang can help wear down foes for Gorebyss, making it easier for it to sweep. The latter can also Pursuit trap Kadabra and can deal with Regice, which can revenge kill Gorebyss. Pokemon that can deal with Politoed such as Roselia and Zebstrika make for good partners, and Roselia can also use Politoed as fodder to set up Spikes for Gorebyss. Pokemon that can deal with Electric- and Grass-types, such as Stunfisk and Regice make for good partners to Gorebyss. While it isn't mandatory, Gorebyss can also function on Rain teams with Pokemon such as Volbeat and Electrode setting rain to aid in providing a boost to Gorebyss's Speed thanks to Swift Swim and a boost to Gorebyss's Water-type STAB attacks.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============

Substitute can be run to avoid taking status to allow Gorebyss to set up Shell Smash easier, but it comes at the loss of a coverage move. A Choice Specs set with Hydro Pump, Ice Beam, Psychic, and Baton Pass can let Gorebyss function as a hard-hitting wallbreaker with access to momentum, but this is generally done better by Floatzel due to the latter's higher Speed and access to Switcheroo to cripple special walls.

Checks and Counters
===================

**Faster Pokemon**: Even after it has used Shell Smash, Choice Scarf users such as Rotom-F, Mr. Mime, and Sawsbuck can outspeed and revenge kill Gorebyss with their respective STAB attacks.

**Priority Users**: Priority attacks such as Pawniard's and Mightyena's Sucker Punch and Purugly's Fake Out can limit Gorebyss's sweeping capabilities, but it can survive resisted hits such as Basculin's and Floatzel's Aqua Jet. Murkrow can use Prankster Thunder Wave to slow down Gorebyss for its teammates to finish off.

**Kadabra**: Kadabra can take any hit from Gorebyss thanks to Focus Sash and either KO it with Psychic if Gorebyss is weakened enough or cripple it with Thunder Wave.

**Politoed**: Politoed is immune to Hydro Pump thanks to Water Absorb and resists Ice Beam, but it does get 2HKOed by Psychic after a Shell Smash boost.

**Bulky Pokemon**: Offensive tanks such as tank Regice and Assault Vest Bouffalant can withstand any attack from Gorebyss at +2 and strike back with Thunderbolt and Return, respectively.
 
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Mention that Gorebyss, other than being slow, is also quite frail especially in the special bulk side, making it even harder to find set up opportunities. This downside also makes it more easily revengekilled.
when you talk about swift swim, you should also talk about how gorebyss is rather poor in comparison with other rain sweepers.
Mention competition with Huntail.

[SET COMMENTS]
Moves
========
say that hydro pump hits most of the metagame hard, not only these two types

Set Details
========
mention that you also might want to avoid setting up on twave / taunt users

Team Options
========
when you talk about entry hazard users, you might want to mention especially metang, as it is able pursuittrap kadabra, which can rkill gorebyss rather easily, and regice, which is also a reliable rkiller.
mention Pokemon that can reliably deal with bulky water-types such as politoed

Checks and Counters
===================
mention murkrow in priority also becase it carries priority thunder wave
you should add a category for stuff such as tank regice, av bouffalant, and other soft checks that are able to take a hit from gorebyss and hit back hard.

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  • Gorebyss is best used as a mid to late-game sweeper once faster Pokemon and priority users are weakened or are weak enough for Gorebyss to handle itself.
You're more waiting for faster pokemon (scarfers/ninjask/electrode) and priority users to be removed, not just weakened. They can be at 1% and still revenge you, so the tip doesnt really make sense
Timid needs to be in OO, you don't outspeed Electrode without it. Also adamant ninjask and scarf monferno.

looks fine, 2/3
 

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Done. Put Timid in Set Details as it made more sense to put it there. This is written and is ready for a final check.
 
"Swift Swim doubles Gorebyss' Speed in the rain, turning it into a threatening sweeper." this implies that it's only a threatening sweeper if rain is up, reword this

mention that if you're using memento or screens for support, other setup sweepers are nice to use as well in case gorebyss has a bad matchup against the opposing team

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[OVERVIEW]

Gorebyss is one of the best sweepers in the tier thanks in part to having a great boosting move in Shell Smash, (AC) which also lets it become a potent wallbreaker, but it does face competition from Huntail as a Shell Smash sweeper due to Huntail having access to Sucker Punch to deal with faster Pokemon. Gorebyss also has a solid ability in Swift Swim, (AC) which makes up for its low Speed, (AC) making it a good Pokemon for rain teams, but it faces competition from other rain sweepers such as Golduck. However, Gorebyss's low Speed without a Shell Smash boost makes it easily taken out by naturally faster Pokemon such as Zebstrika and Simisage. Its below average Special Defense limits Gorebyss' setup opportunities as well. On top of this, even with a Shell Smash boost, it can be easily revenge killed by Choice Scarfed Pokemon such as Sawsbuck and Rotom-Frost and can be picked off by priority moves if in a weakened state.

[SET]
name: Shell Smash
move 1: Shell Smash
move 2: Hydro Pump
move 3: Ice Beam
move 4: Psychic
item: White Herb / Life Orb
ability: Swift Swim
nature: Modest
evs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Moves
========

Shell Smash gives Gorebyss a significant boost to its Special Attack and Speed, (RC) but lowers Gorebyss's defenses. Hydro Pump is Gorebyss's STAB attack, hitting most of the metagame hard including Rock- and Fire-types such as Probopass and Monferno. Ice Beam lets Gorebyss handle Grass-types, (AC) which resists Hydro Pump, (AC) such as Roselia and Jumpluff. Psychic lets Gorebyss hit other Water-types, (AC) especially Politoed, (AC) which is immune to Hydro Pump due to Water Absorb and resists Ice Beam. (AP) It also lets Gorebyss OHKO while also OHKOing Pokemon such as Machoke and Arbok without risking Hydro Pump missing. Surf is an option over Hydro Pump to have an accurate STAB attack at the cost of power.

Set Details
========

Running 252 EVs in Special Attack along with a Modest nature maximizes Gorebyss's damage output. 252 EVs in Speed allows Gorebyss to be as fast as possible to potentially sweep after a Shell Smash. A Timid nature can be run to outspeed Modest Electrode, Adamant Ninjask, and Choice Scarf Monferno, but doing so comes at a loss in power. White Herb restores Gorebyss's defenses after using Shell Smash so it isn't easily revenge killed, (AC) whereas Life Orb increases the amount of damage Gorebyss can deal out at the expense of lowering its health after every attack and making makes it easier to be revenge killed. Swift Swim is the preferred ability, as it doubles Gorebyss's Speed if it happens to be raining.

Usage Tips
========

Set up Shell Smash against Pokemon that can't do much to Gorebyss such as Metang. Gorebyss is best used as a mid- to late-game sweeper once faster Pokemon and priority users are eliminated. Avoid setting up against strong attackers such as Ursaring and Dodrio, (AC) as they can do a vast amount of damage to Gorebyss and hinder its ability to act as a sweeper. Gorebyss should also avoid setting up against faster Taunt users such as Misdreavus or against Pokemon that can carry Thunder Wave such as Kadabra.

Team Options
========

Dual screen support from Meowstic as well as Memento support from Pokemon such as Jumpluff and Misdreavus makes it easier for Gorebyss to set up. If using dual screen or Memento support, other setup sweepers such as Rock Polish Regice and Dragon Dance Fraxure are good partners to have if Gorebyss doesn't have a favorable matchup. Entry hazard support from Pokemon such as Golem, Stunfisk, and Metang can help wear down foes for Gorebyss, (AC) making it easier for it to sweep. The latter can also Pursuit trap Kadabra and can deal with Regice, (AC) which can revenge kill Gorebyss. Pokemon that can deal with Politoed such as Roselia and Zebstrika make for good partners., and Roselia can also use Politoed as fodder to set up Spikes for Gorebyss. Pokemon that can deal with Electric- and Grass-types, (AC) such as Stunfisk and Regice, (AC) makes for good partners to Gorebyss. While it isn't mandatory, Gorebyss can also function on rain teams with Pokemon such as Volbeat and Electrode being able to set up rain and setting rain to aid in providing a boost to Gorebyss's Speed thanks to Swift Swim and a boost to Gorebyss's Water-type STAB attacks.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============

Substitute can be run to avoid taking status and to allowing Gorebyss to set up Shell Smash easier, but it comes at the loss of a coverage move. A Choice Specs set with Hydro Pump, Ice Beam, Psychic, and Baton Pass can let Gorebyss function as a hard-hitting wallbreaker with access to momentum, but this is generally done better by Floatzel due to the latter's higher Speed and access to being faster and having Switcheroo to cripple special walls.

Checks and Counters
===================

**Faster Pokemon**: Even after a it has used Shell Smash, Choice Scarf users such as Rotom-Frost, Mr. Mime, (AC) and Sawsbuck can outspeed and revenge kill Gorebyss with their respective STAB attacks.

**Priority Users**: Priority attacks such as Pawniard's and Mightyena's Sucker Punch and Purugly's Fake Out can limit Gorebyss's sweeping capabilities, but it can live survive resisted hits such as Basculin's and Floatzel's Aqua Jet. Murkrow can used Prankster Thunder Wave to slow down Gorebyss for its teammates to finish off.

**Kadabra**: Kadabra can take any hit from Gorebyss thanks to Focus Sash and either KO it with Psychic if Gorebyss is weakened enough or Kadabra can cripple it with Thunder Wave.

**Politoed**: Politoed is immune to Hydro Pump thanks to Water Absorb and resists Ice Beam, but it does get 2HKOed by Psychic after a Shell Smash boost.

**Bulky Pokemon**: Offensive tanks such as tank Regice and Assault Vest Bouffalant can withstand any attack from Gorebyss at +2 and strike back with Thunderbolt and Return, (AC) respectively.
 
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Shouldn't Hidden Power Grass as an option over Psychic be considered?
Not really since all Water types gets 2HKOed by Psychic after a Shell Smash, so it isn't really worth it.
 
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Thanks for the check P Squared, ready for another check.
 

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[OVERVIEW]

Gorebyss is one of the best sweepers in the tier thanks in part to having a great boosting move in Shell Smash, which also lets it become a potent wallbreaker, but it does face competition from Huntail as a Shell Smash sweeper due to Huntail having access to Sucker Punch to deal with faster Pokemon. Gorebyss also has as well as a good Pokemon for rain teams thanks to a solid ability in Swift Swim, which makes up for its low Speed. (AP) , making it a good Pokemon for rain teams, but However, it faces competition from Huntail as a Shell Smash sweeper, which has access to Sucker Punch to deal with faster Pokemon, and from Pokemon it faces competition from other rain sweepers such as Golduck as a rain sweeper. Gorebyss's low Speed without a Shell Smash boost makes it easily taken out by naturally faster Pokemon such as Zebstrika and Simisage. Its below average Special Defense limits setup opportunities as well. On top of this, even with a Shell Smash boost, it can be easily revenge killed by Choice Scarf Pokemon such as Sawsbuck and Rotom-F and can be picked off by priority moves if in a weakened state.

[SET]
name: Shell Smash
move 1: Shell Smash
move 2: Hydro Pump
move 3: Ice Beam
move 4: Psychic
item: White Herb / Life Orb
ability: Swift Swim
nature: Modest
evs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Moves
========

Shell Smash gives Gorebyss a significant boost to its Special Attack and Speed but lowers Gorebyss's its defenses. Hydro Pump is Gorebyss's STAB attack, hitting most of the metagame hard including Rock- and Fire-types such as Probopass and Monferno. Ice Beam lets Gorebyss handle Grass-types, which resist Hydro Pump, such as Roselia and Jumpluff. Psychic lets Gorebyss hit other Water-types, especially Politoed, which is immune to Hydro Pump due to Water Absorb and resists Ice Beam. It also lets Gorebyss OHKO Pokemon such as Machoke and Arbok without risking Hydro Pump missing. Surf is an option over Hydro Pump to have an accurate STAB attack at the cost of power.

Set Details
========

Running 252 EVs in Special Attack along with a Modest nature maximizes Gorebyss's damage output. 252 EVs in Speed allow Gorebyss to be as fast as possible to potentially sweep after a Shell Smash. A Timid nature can be run to outspeed Modest Electrode, Adamant Ninjask, and Choice Scarf Monferno, but doing so comes at a loss in power. White Herb restores Gorebyss's defenses after using Shell Smash so it isn't easily revenge killed, whereas Life Orb increases the amount of damage Gorebyss can deal out at the expense of lowering its health after every attack and making it easier to be revenge killed. Swift Swim is the preferred ability, as it doubles Gorebyss's Speed if it happens to be raining.

Usage Tips
========

Set up Shell Smash against Pokemon that can't do much to Gorebyss such as Metang. Gorebyss is best used as a mid- to late-game sweeper once faster Pokemon and priority users are eliminated. Avoid setting up against strong attackers such as Ursaring and Dodrio, as they can do a vast amount of damage to Gorebyss and hinder its ability to act as a sweeper. Gorebyss should also avoid setting up against faster Taunt users such as Misdreavus or against Pokemon that can carry Thunder Wave such as Kadabra.

Team Options
========

Dual screen support from Meowstic as well as Memento support from Pokemon such as Jumpluff and Misdreavus makes it easier for Gorebyss to set up. If using dual screen or Memento support, other setup sweepers such as Rock Polish Regice and Dragon Dance Fraxure are good partners to have if Gorebyss doesn't have a favorable matchup. Entry hazard support from Pokemon such as Golem, Stunfisk, and Metang can help wear down foes for Gorebyss, making it easier for it to sweep. The latter can also Pursuit trap Kadabra and can deal with Regice, which can revenge kill Gorebyss. Pokemon that can deal with Politoed such as Roselia and Zebstrika make for good partners, and Roselia can also use Politoed as fodder to set up Spikes for Gorebyss. Pokemon that can deal with Electric- and Grass-types, such as Stunfisk and Regice make for good partners to Gorebyss. While it isn't mandatory, Gorebyss can also function on Rain teams with Pokemon such as Volbeat and Electrode setting rain to aid in providing a boost to Gorebyss's Speed thanks to Swift Swim and a boost to Gorebyss's Water-type STAB attacks.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============

Substitute can be run to avoid taking status to allow Gorebyss to set up Shell Smash easier, but it comes at the loss of a coverage move. A Choice Specs set with Hydro Pump, Ice Beam, Psychic, and Baton Pass can let Gorebyss function as a hard-hitting wallbreaker with access to momentum, but this is generally done better by Floatzel due to the latter's higher Speed and access to Switcheroo to cripple special walls.

Checks and Counters
===================

**Faster Pokemon**: Even after it has used Shell Smash, Choice Scarf users such as Rotom-F, Mr. Mime, and Sawsbuck can outspeed and revenge kill Gorebyss with their respective STAB attacks.

**Priority Users**: Priority attacks such as Pawniard's and Mightyena's Sucker Punch and Purugly's Fake Out can limit Gorebyss's sweeping capabilities, but it can survive resisted hits such as Basculin's and Floatzel's Aqua Jet. Murkrow can use Prankster Thunder Wave to slow down Gorebyss for its teammates to finish off.

**Kadabra**: Kadabra can take any hit from Gorebyss thanks to Focus Sash and either KO it with Psychic if Gorebyss is weakened enough or cripple it with Thunder Wave.

**Politoed**: Politoed is immune to Hydro Pump thanks to Water Absorb and resists Ice Beam, but it does get 2HKOed by Psychic after a Shell Smash boost.

**Bulky Pokemon**: Offensive tanks such as tank Regice and Assault Vest Bouffalant can withstand any attack from Gorebyss at +2 and strike back with Thunderbolt and Return, respectively.
 
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