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Goruugu (Skeleton) (QC Approved 1/2)

Discussion in 'Locked / Outdated Analyses' started by Chillarmy, Dec 6, 2010.

  1. Chillarmy

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    go go goruugu

    Status: Skeleton

    [Overview]

    <p>Fifth generation gave birth to multiple new Ghost-type Pokemon, and gave even outclassed Ghost-types, namely Dusclops, a new lease on life with the introduction of the Evolution Stone. Unlike its Ghost-type brethren, however, Goruugo possesses some very unqiure attributes, such as its very useful Ghost / Ground typing, great attack stat, decent defenses, and good offensive movepool, that make it a great choice for offensive teams that require a spinblocker. Adding onto its very useful niche in OU, Goruugo also has access to the ability Iron Fist, making it one of the few SubPunchers that can beat Skarmory one-on-one. Ironically though, Goruugo is held back from being a top contender in OU because of its aforementioned traits; Goruugo's typing combined with its ambysmal speed make it incredibly vulnerable to some very common offensive types such as Water, Ghost, and Dark, preventing it from fulfilling any notable defensive roles. On top of that, Goruugo gets no stat boosting moves outside of Rock Polish, serverely limiting its offensive capability. Be sure to keep this, and the fact that Goruugo is nearly shut down Toxic Spikes, in mind when choosing it for your team.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Substitute + 3 Attacks
    move 1: Substitute
    move 2: Earthquake
    move 3: Shadow Punch / Stone Edge
    move 4: Focus Punch / Hammer Arm / Stone Edge
    item: Leftovers
    nature: Adamant
    ability: Iron Fist
    EV: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Def

    Set comments

    <p>Goruugo's low speed is usually its own undoing, but Substitute helps to alleviate that problem.</p>

    • Focus Punch is the main option in the final slot, as it, after the boost from Iron Fist, becomes an incredibly powerful attack, making bulky physical walls such as Skarmory and Forretress think twice about switching in
    • Hammer Arm, while significantly less powerful than Focus Punch, gets a boost from Iron Fist as well, is a much more reliable option if Goruugo isn't hiding behind a substitute
    Additional Comments

    • Stone Edge can be used in either the third or fourth slot in order to hit the likes of Borutorosu and Skymin much harder; Toxic can cripple Hippowdon and Burngeru, two common switch ins to Goruugo
    • Bulky waters, namely Swampert, have no problem coming in, breaking Goruugo's Substitutes, and KOing the the appropriate attack
    • Nattorei works as a nice partner, easily setting up entry on most bulky waters while providing paralysis support in Thunder Wave
    • Carrying something to get rid Toxic Spikes is a given if you wish to keep Goruugo alive for a good while
    • Wallbreakers, who hate having their entry hazards blown away, such as Blaziken and Sazandora, make good partners for this set
    [SET]
    name: Choice Band
    move 1: Earthquake
    move 2: Stone Edge
    move 3: Hammer Arm
    move 4: Shadow Punch / Toxic
    item: Choice Band
    nature: Adamant
    ability: Iron Fist
    EV: 208 HP / 252 Atk / 48 Spe

    Set comments

    <p>This set takes a more offensive pace on Goruugo, optimizing its high Attack stat and nice offensive movepool by running Choice Band instead of the previously mentioned Leftovers.</p>

    • Earthquake and Stone Edge compliment each other well in terms of coverage
    • Hammer Arm, which receives a boost from Iron Fist, allows Goruugo to outright beat Skarmory
    Additional Comments

    • Shadow Punch only hits Gengar (which gets OHKOed by Stone Edge) and Lati@s harder than Earthquake or Stone Edge, so one can forgo the said move and run Toxic instead in order to cripple counters to this set, such as Hippowdon and Desukan
    • The EVs place Goruugo one point above 4 Spe Burungeru, allowing it to effectively 2HKO with Earthquake
    • Once again, wallbreakers work fine as partners
    • Having something to get rid of Toxic Spikes isn't as much as a requirement on this set, as Goruugo won't be staying in for long, especially with the speed drops from Hammer Arm
    [SET]
    name: Rock Polish
    move 1: Rock Polish
    move 2: Earthquake
    move 3: Shadow Punch / Substitute
    move 4: Stone Edge / Substitute
    item: Life Orb / Leftovers
    nature: Adamant
    ability: Iron Fist
    EV: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe

    Set comments

    <p>Rather than supporting its team as a bulky spinblocker or powerful Choice Bander, Goruugo makes an attempt to clean up with its only stat boosting move available, Rock Polish.<p>
    • After a boost, Goruugo stands at a fine 418 Speed stat, just beating Choice Scarf Heatran
    • Unlike Lucario and Terakion, Goruugo is immune to Mach Punch and Vacuum Wave, making it a bit harder to revenge kill; Goruugo's typing grants it a few more resistances than Landlos, who gives it quite a bit of competition with access to Sand Power and Swords Dance
    • Earthquake and Shadow Punch are the main offensive options here, netting decent coverage alongside each other
    • Stone Edge hits flyers and Sazandora much harder than Goruugo's main STAB options
    Additional Comments

    • Substitute is a workable option in order to give Goruugo some extra breathing room, and can fit over either Shadow Punch or Stone Edge
    • Brick Break hits Sazandora much harder, but fails to OHKO most variants, preventing it from being a recommended option on this set
    • Skarmory walls Goruugo to hell and back, so having Magnezone support or a Pokemon to scare Skarmory away with is recommended
    • Sazandora, Salamence, Lucario, Swords Dance Terakion - all of these Pokemon, once again, make great offensive partners for this set
    • A Jolly nature can be used for much more speed, but Goruugo needs as much power as it can get
    • Carrying a Rapid Spinner is vital, as Goruugo's longevity and power are significantly reduced, making it easy to wear down
    [Team Options]

    • Goruugo's main purpose is to block Rapid Spin, so having (a) Pokemon that can set up multiple entry hazards is a given. Forretress, Skarmory, and Nattorei can set up nearly any set of entry hazards, and in the latter's case, has excellent type synergy with Goruugo
    • As mentioned already, having a method of keeping Toxic Spikes off of the field is very beneficial to Goruugo. Grounded Poison-types, such as Tentacruel, or a Rapid Spinner is very capable of doing so
    • Breaking down opposing walls is very useful to Goruugo, so carring Pokemon such as Nasty Plot Lucario, Sazandora, Salamence, and / or Blaziken is highly recommended
    • For the Rock Polish set, Encore support is very helpful to not only giving Goruugo a free switch in, but a potential boost as well; Wobbuffet works well for this task, and it can get rid of faster Choice Scarfers with relative ease. Politoed, despite doubling Goruugo's Water-type weakness with Drizzle, can Encore Electric-type attacks aimed at it, giving Goruugo safe chance to switch in and get a Rock Polish or two under its belt.
    [Optional Changes]

    • Outside if Dynamicpunch, Brick Break, and Fly, Goruugo doesn't have any other offensive options to choose from
    • Level Ground is an 'okay' alternative to Earthquake if one fears Goruugo being outpaced easily
    • Goruugo has a fantastic special movepool, but hasn't the stats to pull off any special-oriented sets
    [Counters]

    • Bulky Ghost-types such as Desukan and Evolution Stone Dusclops can overcome the above sets with ease thanks to their considerable bulk and access to Will-o-Wisp, but have to watch out for the occasional Toxic
    • Hippowdon can tank any hit from Goruugo, hit it hard with Earthquake, and heal off any damage taken
    • Skarmory can take on the Rock Polish and Choice Band sets, but has to watch out for Hammer Arm
    • Countering Goruugo without a Substitute up is very easy, as its low Speed and somewhat poor defensive typing give a considerable number of Pokemon the ability to rip it to shreds
    [Dream World]

    • Goruugo gets No Guard as its Dream World ability. No Guard isn't that bad on the Rock Polish set once you take into account Goruugo's movepool, as it allows for the use of Dynamicpunch and a 100% accurate Stone Edge. This is a double-edged sword, however, as any attack aimed at Goruugo, namely Will-o-Wisp and Hydro Pump, will always hit
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  3. Chillarmy

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    EDIT: Thanks for clarifying that, Don Honchkrorleone
  4. Don Honchkrorleone

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    No. In fact you reserved it to put the S1 in the formal way or something like that. Goruggo is still yours.
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    Chillarmy, you can continue with this analysis ;)
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    May be also good to mention in the overview that this guy is the one of the few Pokémon besides Medicham and Gallade (whose Defense stats are pathetic) that resists the Rock/Fighting combination. It also has a Fighting type immunity, which, with Drain Punching Roobushins and such running around, is very valuable. I think Roobushin is also starting to use Stone Edge over Punishment now, too.

    -Zane

    P.S. Get Dynamicpunch off that Choice Band set!
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    And Nidoking, Nidoqueen, Claydol and Toxicroak.
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    Remove the slashes on Focus Punch on the SubPunch set; and slash it like this- Shadow Punch / Hammer Arm / Stone Edge. Focus Punch is the whole idea of the SubPunch set; it will be stupid to slash the main move.

    Run a spread of 252 Atk / 136 Spe / 120 HP Jolly Nature on the Rock Polish set, this helps you outspeed max Speed base 130's after an RP boost.

    Hope this helps. Good luck on this analysis.
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    Tested a few things out and edited the OP where I saw fit. I renamed the first set Substitute + 3 attacks because, in all honesty, I found Focus Punch to bit unreliable at times, and the ability to hit Nattorei hard when not behind a sub was too good to pass up. I also added Substitute as an option on the Rock Polish set in order to give Goruugo a bit of wiggle room to set up with.

    I'll have this written up by Friday at the latest

    418 > 396. The nature and spread stay the same
  10. am zane ok.

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    Oh. Right. I have no idea what I was thinking when I posted that.

    -Zane
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    Looks good to me.
  12. TEA_DEMON

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    Perhaps Burungeru isn't the best example to use here since it's weak to Ghost?
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    Hey, after doing some calcs after discussion on Terakion in Uncharted, I found out that this guy can pretty much hard counter that very threatening sweeper, which I think is worth a mention somewhere in your analysis :).

    Anyway, it requires a little EV specialisation, so maybe in other options would be the best option? 252HP/168Def/88Atk with Brave/Adamant allows you to avoid a 2HKO after SR from any Terakion, and EQ and a Fighting move let you 2HKO or OHKO back.

    Also, Brave with reduced speed IV is probably an optional change in order to avoid Payback from Machamp/Roobushin dealing extra damage. However in my experience with this guy not dropping your speed is a better option in order to outspeed a few things.

    EDIT: Oops, didn't realize Chillarmy had given up on this. Copypastaing advice to the relevant thread.

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