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Gourgeist

Discussion in 'XY Research' started by XY Research, Oct 9, 2013.

  1. XY Research

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    [​IMG]
    Name
    : Gourgeist
    Type: Ghost / Grass
    Ability: Pickup / Frisk / Insomnia (DW)
    Base Stats:
    Average Size: 65 / 90 / 122 / 58 / 75 / 84
    Small Size: 55 / 85 / 122 / 58 / 75 / 99
    Large Size: 75 / 95 / 122 / 58 / 75 / 69
    Huge Size: 85 / 100 / 122 / 58 / 75 / 54

    Level-Up Movepool

    - Trick
    - Astonish
    - Confuse Ray
    - Explosion
    - Phantom Force
    Lv 4: Scary Face
    Lv 6: Trick-or-Treat
    Lv 11: Worry Seed
    Lv 16: Razor Leaf
    Lv 20: Leech Seed
    Lv 26: Bullet Seed
    Lv 30: Shadow Sneak
    Lv 36: Shadow Ball
    Lv 42: Pain Split
    Lv 48: Seed Bomb
    Lv 57: Phantom Force
    Lv 70: Shadow Ball

    TM & HM Compatibility

    TM06 Toxic
    TM10 Hidden Power
    TM11 Sunny Day
    TM15 Hyper Beam
    TM16 Light Screen
    TM17 Protect
    TM20 Safeguard
    TM21 Frustration
    TM22 Solar Beam
    TM27 Return
    TM29 Psychic
    TM30 Shadow Ball
    TM32 Double Team
    TM35 Flamethrower
    TM36 Sludge Bomb
    TM38 Fire Blast
    TM42 Facade
    TM43 Flame Charge
    TM44 Rest
    TM45 Attract
    TM46 Thief
    TM48 Round
    TM52 Focus Blast
    TM53 Energy Ball
    TM57 Charge Beam
    TM59 Incinerate
    TM61 Will-O-Wisp
    TM64 Explosion
    TM68 Giga Impact
    TM70 Flash
    TM74 Gyro Ball
    TM80 Rock Slide
    TM85 Dream Eater
    TM86 Grass Knot
    TM87 Swagger
    TM88 Sleep Talk
    TM90 Substitute
    TM92 Trick Room
    TM94 Rock Smash
    TM96 Nature Power
    TM97 Dark Pulse
    TM100 Confide

    Egg Moves

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    Name
    : Pumpkaboo
    Type: Ghost / Grass
    Ability: Pickup / Frisk / Insomnia (DW)
    Base Stats:
    Average Size: 49 / 66 / 70 / 44 / 55 / 51
    Small Size: 44 / 66 / 70 / 44 / 55 / 56
    Large Size: 54 / 66 / 70 / 44 / 55 / 46
    Huge Size: 59 / 66 / 70 / 44 / 55 / 41

    Level-Up Movepool

    - Trick
    - Astonish
    - Confuse Ray
    Lv 4: Scary Face
    Lv 6: Trick-or-Treat
    Lv 11: Worry Seed
    Lv 16: Razor Leaf
    Lv 20: Leech Seed
    Lv 26: Bullet Seed
    Lv 30: Shadow Sneak
    Lv 36: Shadow Ball
    Lv 42: Pain Split
    Lv 48: Seed Bomb

    TM & HM Compatibility

    TM 10: Hidden Power
    TM 11: Sunny Day
    TM 29: Psychic
    TM 32: Double Team
    TM 42: Facade
    TM 43: Flame Charge
    TM 53: Energy Ball
    TM 57: Charge Beam
    TM 61: Will-o-Wisp
    TM 80: Rock Slide
    TM 96: Nature Power
    TM 97: Dark Pulse
    TM 100: Confide
    06 Toxic
    64 Explosion
    16 Light Screen
    17 Protect
    21 Frustration
    27 Return
    35 Flamethrower
    36 Sludge Bomb
    38 Fire Blast
    45 Attract
    70 Flash
    86 Grass Knot
    92 Trick Room
    94 Rock Smash

    Egg Moves

    Destiny Bond
    Disable
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    Pumpkaboo gets the following moves before Level 36:
    • Trick
    • Astonish
    • Confuse Ray
    • Scary Face
    • Trick-or-treat
    • Worry Seed
    • Razor Leaf
    • Leech Seed
    • Bullet Seed
    • Shadow Sneak
    • Shadow Ball
    Level 42: Pain Split
    Level 48: Seed Bomb
    Last edited: Oct 13, 2013
  3. Dream Boat Dixon

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    Right, this is a bit long winded but I'll step through what I've discovered so far.

    Firstly; the friend safari gives you access to Pokemon with 2/3 31 IV's. With this, I've manage to find out what level 30, neutral nature Pumpkaboo has as stats. I don't know how to work out base stats, so I brought the info here.

    Level 30, docile nature w/ 31 in each stat, average size
    78/53/56/40/47/44

    It's hidden ability is also Insomnia.
  4. kd24

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    Pumpkaboo has a hidden ability of Insomnia
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    Gourgeist has a hidden ability of Insomnia as well.
  6. meddle

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    Random Hex Maniac on Victory Road's Gourgeist used TM35 Flamethrower on me. Assuming that's a level-up move but going with just TM compatibility for now.
  7. Worldtour

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    TMs/HMs for both
    06 Toxic
    16 Light Screen
    17 Protect
    21 Frustration
    27 Return
    35 Flamethrower
    36 Sludge Bomb
    38 Fire Blast
    45 Attract
    70 Flash
    86 Grass Knot
    92 Trick Room
    94 Rock Smash
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    Hatched a Pumkpaboo, will leave updates on specific levels

    1: Trick
    1: Astonish
    1: Confuse Ray
    4: Scary Face
    6: Trick Or Treat
  9. Green

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    He learns Trick R Treat again at 40. Does anyone have any confirmation on whether or not the size changes the base stats?

    EDIT: At Move Relearner

    Explosion
    Phantom Force
    Trick
    Astonish
    Confuse Ray
    Scary Face
    Trick-Or-Treat
    Worry Seed
    Razor Leaf
    Shadow Ball

    PS: Mine is level 36 and Super-Sized, I'll update as he continues to level up.
    Last edited: Oct 14, 2013
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    Pumpkaboo TMs:
    • TM 10: Hidden Power
    • TM 11: Sunny Day
    • TM 29: Psychic
    • TM 32: Double Team
    • TM 42: Facade
    • TM 43: Flame Charge
    • TM 53: Energy Ball
    • TM 57: Charge Beam
    • TM 61: Will-o-Wisp
    • TM 80: Rock Slide
    • TM 96: Nature Power
    • TM 97: Dark Pulse
    • TM 100: Confide
  11. meddle

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    Did some breeding trying to see if Gourgeist could get some of Trevenant's moves.

    Male: Trevenant with Will-o-Wisp, Forest's Curse, Destiny Bond, Phantom Force
    Female: Gourgeist with Leech Seed, Bullet Seed, Shadow Sneak, Shadow Ball

    Child: Pumpkaboo with Trick, Astonish, Confuse Ray, Destiny Bond

    Seems that Destiny Bond is therefore an Egg Move.

    Edit: More breeding. Gengar father with Confuse Ray, Sucker Punch, Shadow Punch, and Payback did not yield any egg moves on the baby (Confuse Ray is default).
    Last edited: Oct 15, 2013
  12. SergantGold

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    I can confirm size changes base stats. The bigger the size the higher the attack the lower the speed. I got 3 neutral natured ones, one small, one big, one average and the attack stat seemed to go up and down by 10 by the size, same with speed

    Can anyone see if evolution affects level-up set? I don't wanna evolve mine and miss out on something like pain spilt or seed bomb
    Last edited: Oct 15, 2013
  13. Green

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    Mine is Super-Sized. It has a docile nature. I can give you his stats if you can calc his base stats.
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    Learns Pain Split at 43.

    Also at level 43 my Super Size Gourgeist has:

    129 HP
    103 Attack
    116 Defense
    57 Special Attack
    81 Special Defense
    63 Speed

    He has a Docile nature and around 10-20 EVs in every stat.
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    Also compatible with TM64 Explosion
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    Pumpkaboo gets Disable as an Egg Move. Bred a Grimer (who had Disable) with one and the newly-hatched Pumpkaboos had it.
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    Without knowing the exact IVs/EVs I can only make a general estimate, but from those numbers I got approximately:

    80 / 105 / 120 / 50 / 80 / 55-60 ~490 - 495 BST

    Most of them line up inside of the previous estimates (84-99 / 99-115 / 122-138 / 56-72 / 74-90 / 46-62) for Super Size, but HP, Def, and SpA are lower. We obviously need more samples and more exact data to pinpoint Gourgeist's forms' stats.
  18. MMX

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    I just caught a Super Size Pumpkaboo at lvl 36 with these stats:

    Docile Nature
    93 HP
    57 Atk
    57 Def
    37 SAtk
    55 SDef
    34 Spd

    It has no EVs. Somewhat Stubborn characteristic.
  19. FSForwardSound

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    Just caught a Super Size Pumpkaboo at lvl 36. Lucky me also came with a miracle seed.

    http://imgur.com/mr9pBm9

    No EVs. Quick to flee.
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    I've been doing a bit of my own Pumpkaboo research, and from those I've found so far I have a few stats nailed down:

    Pumpkaboo - average: 49-50 / 64 / 60-61 / 35-45 / 51-55 / 44
    Pumpkaboo - large: ?? / ?? / ?? / 43-44 / 55 / ??
    Pumpkaboo - Super: 59-61 / ?? / ?? / ?? / 55-56 / 40-41

    Edit: Official numbers below
    Last edited: Oct 17, 2013
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    Official Super Pumpkaboo:
    59/66/70/44/55/41
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    When level 1 Pumpkaboo was traded to me, it evolved into Gourgeist and learned Explosion and Phantom Force

    It starts with Trick, Astonish, and Confuse Ray at level 1

    This post will contain all future Pumpkaboo and Gourgeist information so

    Pumpkaboo
    - Trick
    - Astonish
    - Confuse Ray
    Lv 4: Scary Face
    Lv 6: Trick-or-Treat
    Lv 11: Worry Seed
    Lv 16: Razor Leaf
    Lv 20: Leech Seed
    Lv 26: Bullet Seed
    Lv 30: Shadow Sneak
    Lv 36: Shadow Ball
    Lv 42: Pain Split
    Lv 48: Seed Bomb

    Gourgeist
    - Trick
    - Astonish
    - Confuse Ray
    - Explosion
    - Phantom Force
    Lv 4: Scary Face
    Lv 6: Trick-or-Treat
    Lv 11: Worry Seed
    Lv 16: Razor Leaf
    Lv 20: Leech Seed
    Lv 26: Bullet Seed
    Lv 30: Shadow Sneak
    Lv 36: Shadow Ball
    Lv 42: Pain Split
    Lv 48: Seed Bomb
    Lv 57: Phantom Force
    Lv 70: Shadow Ball
    Last edited: Oct 18, 2013
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    I can confirm. Hopefully we'll get that narrowed down a little further soon.

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