Greninja

[GaleYamanaka]

I've been doing a ton of breeding with Greninja and hopefully these stats can be useful in finding some base stats for the pokemon.

Froakie Timid Nature @ Level 50

HP 116 (31 IVs)
Def 60 (31 IVs)
SpAtk 82 (31 IVs)
SpDef 63 (31 IVs)
Spe 100 (31 IVs, positive nature)

I'll update with Greninja's stats at the same level, as well as finding the value of it's atk with 31 IVs. From there it should be pretty easy to back track to it's base stats.

I also did a little bit of math with Greninja's base sp. atk stat (with 30 IV's fully invested EV's) and I can say with pretty good certainty that it's base sp. atk is 103.
I compared it to Sigilyph (103 base sp.atk) with the same nature and EV's and the IV value came up the same.

 

[LouisCyphre]

Take note of Greninja's Hidden Ability, Protean.

 

[Erionn]

I got a bunch of 2-3 max IV Frogadiers from the Friend Safari, evolved a couple into Greninja and took them to a level 50 wifi battle. Level 50 Docile with max Attack/Defense had 115/87. Level 50 Hasty with max HP/Special Attack/Special Defense/Speed had 147/123/91/156 in those stats.

Managed to find matches for all of the stats except Speed, which is 1 above a Tornadus-T with similar nature. Assuming it is only 1 higher, Greninja's base stats are 72/95/67/103/71/122, for a total of 530 BST.

 

[Shroomisaur]

I got a bunch of 2-3 max IV Frogadiers from the Friend Safari, evolved a couple into Greninja and took them to a level 50 wifi battle. Level 50 Docile with max Attack/Defense had 115/87. Level 50 Hasty with max HP/Special Attack/Special Defense/Speed had 147/123/91/156 in those stats.

Managed to find matches for all of the stats except Speed, which is 1 above a Tornadus-T with similar nature. Assuming it is only 1 higher, Greninja's base stats are 72/95/67/103/71/122, for a total of 530 BST.

With help from Fennekin's I found the stats to be ~74 / 95 / 67 / 103 / ~67 / 122, for a BST of 528 (identical to the Unova starters). The HP and SpD IVs were unknown, but if your calculations are sure about 72 HP and 71 SpD, then we are 100% confirmed on his stats.

 

[Tutanchamon]

Just bred a couple of Froakie (using a female Protean Frogadier) to see what kind of Egg Moves it'd have (bred two eggs for Psyduck, one for Lapras and one for Inkay) .

So far, not a lot of interesting stuff:

• Water Sport (which it got through a Psyduck)

Moves it didn't get:

• Rain Dance (bred it with a Lapras)
• Perish Song (bred it with a Lapras)
• Psychic (bred it with a Psyduck)
• Psyshock (bred it with a Psyduck)
• Psywave (bred it with an Inkay)
• Foul Play (bred it with an Inkay)
• Topsy-Turvy (bred it with an Inkay)
• Swagger (bred it with an Inkay)

It also does not learn at least one of these two moves:

• Thunderbolt
• Body Slam

I put Lapras in the day care with Thunderbolt, but retrieved it with Body Slam, so I'm not sure which move was attempted to be passed on.

EDIT: As a note, this is more or less the first time I'm breeding - is breeding more of them necessary, or is one hatched egg enough to show proper results?

 

[Oglemi]

Complete TM compatibility for Greninja:

TM06 Toxic
TM10 Hidden Power
TM12 Taunt
TM13 Ice Beam
TM14 Blizzard
TM15 Hyper Beam
TM17 Protect
TM18 Rain Dance
TM21 Frustration
TM23 Smack Down
TM27 Return
TM28 Dig
TM32 Double Team
TM39 Rock Tomb
TM40 Aerial Ace
TM42 Facade
TM44 Rest
TM45 Attract
TM46 Thief
TM48 Round
TM49 Echoed Voice
TM55 Scald
TM56 Fling
TM62 Acrobatics
TM68 Giga Impact
TM80 Rock Slide
TM86 Grass Knot
TM87 Swagger
TM88 Sleep Talk
TM89 U-turn
TM90 Substitute
TM94 Rock Smash
TM97 Dark Pulse
TM98 Power-Up Punch
TM100 Confide
HM01 Cut
HM03 Surf
HM04 Strength
HM05 Waterfall

 

[Oglemi]

Complete TM compatibility for Frogadier:

TM06 Toxic
TM10 Hidden Power
TM12 Taunt
TM13 Ice Beam
TM14 Blizzard
TM17 Protect
TM18 Rain Dance
TM21 Frustration
TM23 Smack Down
TM27 Return
TM28 Dig
TM32 Double Team
TM39 Rock Tomb
TM40 Aerial Ace
TM42 Facade
TM44 Rest
TM45 Attract
TM46 Thief
TM48 Round
TM49 Echoed Voice
TM55 Scald
TM56 Fling
TM62 Acrobatics
TM80 Rock Slide
TM86 Grass Knot
TM87 Swagger
TM88 Sleep Talk
TM89 U-turn
TM90 Substitute
TM94 Rock Smash
TM97 Dark Pulse
TM98 Power-Up Punch
TM100 Confide
HM01 Cut
HM03 Surf
HM04 Strength
HM05 Waterfall

 

[Mario With Lasers]

http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/pokémon-xy-data-collection.3489182/page-32#post-4887407
http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/pokémon-xy-data-collection.3489182/page-41#post-4891579

First picture had a range of 72-87 / 81-96 / 65-80 / 103 / 60-75 / 122; I just calculated the the second one and got 66-82 / 95 / 67 / 103 / 60-75 / 122. So, it seems Greninja's stats are 72-82 / 95 / 67 / 103 / 60-75 / 122.

Requesting confirmation from the Stat Team.

 

[Oglemi]

Complete TM compatibility for Froakie:

TM06 Toxic
TM10 Hidden Power
TM12 Taunt
TM13 Ice Beam
TM14 Blizzard
TM17 Protect
TM18 Rain Dance
TM21 Frustration
TM23 Smack Down
TM27 Return
TM28 Dig
TM32 Double Team
TM39 Rock Tomb
TM40 Aerial Ace
TM42 Facade
TM44 Rest
TM45 Attract
TM46 Thief
TM48 Round
TM49 Echoed Voice
TM55 Scald
TM56 Fling
TM62 Acrobatics
TM80 Rock Slide
TM86 Grass Knot
TM87 Swagger
TM88 Sleep Talk
TM89 U-turn
TM90 Substitute
TM94 Rock Smash
TM98 Power-Up Punch
TM100 Confide
HM01 Cut
HM03 Surf
HM04 Strength
HM05 Waterfall

 

[WaffleLeech]

Don't know if you have to be an official researcher to post in this thread but I bred a Female Froakie with a Male Clawitzer that knew

Aura Sphere
Dragon Pulse
Swords Dance

and it received NONE of those moves.

I was hoping since Squirtle receives Aura Sphere and Dragon Pulse from Clawitzer, Froakie might be so lucky, but no dice.

 

[Spenstar]

Makes sense, because Blastoise needs those moves for Mega Launcher...

 

[macle]

Froakie
lv 1 - pound
lv 1 - growl
lv 5 - bubble
lv 8 - quick attack
lv 10 - lick
lv 14 Water Pulse
lv 18 - smoke screen
lv 21 - round
lv 25 - Fling
lv 29 - Smack Down
lv 35 - substitute
lv 39 - bounce
lv 43 - Double Team
lv 48 - Hydro Pump

not all the way done yet but im up to 59 with no more moves.

 

[WaffleLeech]

Welp, shoutout to the guy on /vp/ but I went ahead and bred a Froakie with Toxic Spikes and I can indeed confirm he gets Toxic Spikes as an egg move.
It's a bit tricky though, had to chain breed it. Got an Omanyte off the GTS, caught a Tentacool that knew Toxic Spikes, bred Toxic Spikes onto the Omanyte, then bred it onto Froakie. Visual confirmation below:

 

[sdw7sm]

Froakie can be bred Camouflage from Stunfisk. I discovered this by accident, but it makes sense, as its hidden ability also allows it to change type. Image below:

 

[macle]

frogadier
- lv 20 - Smoke Screen
- lv 23 - Round
- lv 28 - Fling
- lv 33 - Smack Down
- lv 38 - Substitute
- lv 44 - Bounce
- lv 48 - Double Team

 

[Dell]

Confirming that Froakie learns Bubble at Level 5, not Start (which implies Level 1, of course).

 

[Takeko]

I tried to teach him Freeze-dry by breeding, didn't work.

 

[Darkprophet]

Froakie cannot learn the following moves through breeding:

- Aqua Jet (Floatzel)
- Pursuit (Floatzel)
- Swift (Floatzel)
- Double Hit (Floatzel)
- Dragon Rush (Dragonite)
- Safeguard (Dragonite)
- Agility (Dragonite)
- Aqua Tail (Dragonite)
- Dragon Dance (Dragonite)
- Fire Punch (Dragonite)
- Thunderpunch (Dragonite)

 

[WaffleLeech]

I might as well post my full list here. The following are all the moves I attempted to breed onto Greninja with no success:

Mud Shot
Aqua Ring
Drain Punch
Muddy Water
Hypnosis
Swift
Pursuit
Aqua Jet
Aqua Tail
Slack Off
Curse
Air Slash
Hurricane
Roost
Signal Beam
Power Gem
Earth Power
Mega/Giga Drain
Zen Headbutt
Superpower
Dragon Dance
Twister
Outrage
Aura Sphere
Dragon Pulse

Again, none of these passed on. If anyone has doubts about my methods, I set aside each Father of every potential move and will gladly re-do any breeding scenario if confirmation is required.

 

[Agonist]

Might as well add Disable to that list, tried breeding it through Golduck, and it didn't get it.

 

[ImperialWrath]

Sticky Web and Baton Pass are not Egg moves, tested with Surskit.

 

[TheMantyke]

Bred Froakie with a Lombre knowing Fake Out, Water Sport, Zen Headbutt, and Bubble Beam. Bubble Beam, Zen Headbutt, and most disappointingly Fake Out did not pass down.

However, Water Sport did pass down... hooray.

Proof

 

[Agonist]

Switcheroo and Hypnosis failed (Inkay father).

 

[Nexus]

Froakie does not receive Ice Punch via egg move.

 

[jas61292]

Well, as long as people are posting things it does not get, I tried breeding with Ducklett and can confirm it does not get Defog as a egg move.