We also have to bear in mind it will have a lot less players, simply because it won't be Standard (and having two Standard OUs would have consequences as severe as having two Smogon forums). This is what interests me the most. What would be the initial banlist? B/W's November one + the weather abilities? The current one with the weather abilities and without Manaphy and Blaziken? Just like Sand dominated in ADV and Stealth Rock in DPPt, and yet nothing happened just because people "got sick of it" ?__? While there are people interested in a non-weather metagame, we don't know how many of them there are and setting up the ladder won't help us in finding the real percentage, simply because there is an unknown number people who want non-weather as the Standard (see: people voting to ban weather). It could be that the number of people interested in non-weather as more than a side metagame is as big as the number of those who wanted SR banned in DPPt, or at least in a separate ladder. This is not about manpower only, but also about its playerbase being worth the effort; I don't think it's going to be pretty if it ends up like PO's official server's Clear Skies ladder. EDIT-- Well FlareBlitz said what I did but in less words. And how about a poll in DST once we end discussion here? What's important is that people acknowledge the only "testing" that will be held is whether there is interest in such a ladder or not, not that we find "weather" a suspect in Standard.