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Heatran

Discussion in 'Locked / Outdated Analyses' started by KnightoftheWind, Oct 4, 2010.

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  1. KnightoftheWind

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    [Overview]
    • The most popular Pokemon of Gen 4 arrives in Gen 5, bringing his excellent Special Attack, great typing and good ability in Flash Fire with him.
    • Gen 5 gave Heatran a new toy in Nitro Charge, which fixes the problem of its mediocre Speed.
    • Flaws: Still retains the weaknesses to common types, the nerf of Explosion severely harms the way Heatran can deal with Blissey.
    [SET]
    name: Life Orb
    move 1: Nitro Charge / Taunt
    move 2: Fire Blast
    move 3: Earth Power
    move 4: Hidden Power Grass / Dragon Pulse
    item: Life Orb
    evs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
    nature: Timid

    Set Comments:
    • Reaches 417 Speed after a Nitro Charge, outspeeding every non-boosted Pokemon except for Agirudaa, all Deoxys formes (except for Deoxys-D), and Ninjask.
    • Hits incredibly hard with its high Special Attack, especially after a Flash Fire boost.
    • Fire Blast is Heatran's main STAB move. Earth Power takes care of opposing Heatran and Tyranitar.
    • Hidden Power Grass hurts Water-types, but Dragon Pulse can stop Dragon-types that can take a Fire Blast.
    • If you don't mind losing higher Speed, Taunt can be used over Nitro Charge to beat Blissey 1-on-1.
    Additional Comments:
    • Hidden Power Ice will deal more damage to Garchomp and Salamence than Dragon Pulse, but won't hit Kingdra, Sazandora and Ononokusu as hard. Hidden Power Electric trades the ability to hurt Swampert for the ability to take down Gyarados.
    • Heatran can try bluffing a Choice Scarf by carrying a Balloon, Shuca Berry or Passho Berry.
    Teammates & Counters:
    • Like most offensive Pokemon, Heatran benefits from Stealth Rock support.
    • Heatran becomes almost impossible to wall in the sun, so pairing Heatran with Groudon is a good idea.
    • Celebi resists all of Heatran's weaknesses and vice versa. If Heatran lacks Nitro Charge, Celebi can use Thunder Wave to slow down Pokemon so Heatran can strike first.
    • Bulky Water-types are Heatran's #1 concern. Heatran can only 2HKO most with Hidden Power Grass and they can OHKO Heatran back with Surf / Boiling Water.
    • Scarfed Ground types such as Garchomp and Warubiaru can stop a Heatran sweep.
    [SET]
    name: Stealth Rock
    move 1: Stealth Rock
    move 2: Fire Blast
    move 3: Earth Power
    move 4: Dragon Pulse / Taunt
    item: Balloon / Shuca Berry
    evs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
    nature: Timid

    Set Comments:
    • Offensive presense and multiple resistances give Heatran at least one turn to set up Stealth Rock.
    • Works well both in and out of the lead position.
    • Fire Blast, Earth Power and Dragon Pulse grant exceptional coverage. Taunt can be handy if Heatran is leading, to stop Stealth Rock from being set up by slower leads.
    Additional Comments:
    • Balloon and Shuca Berry protect Heatran from Earthquakes and Earth Powers aimed at it. Both of them have their own merits and downfalls. Balloon gives Heatran total immunity to Ground-type attacks, whilst Shuca Berry only weakens them. Balloon also gives Heatran an immunity to entry hazards. However, Balloon stops working once Heatran takes any damage, unlike Shuca Berry.
    • Other resistance berries such as Passho Berry and Chople Berry are other options.
    • Hidden Power Grass can harm Swampert quite a lot, but without a boosting item, it don't do much to Water-types. Will-o-Wisp is also quite the useful move, crippling Earthquake users after they fail to KO Heatran.
    Teammates & Counters:
    • Retains many of the same teammates and counters from the Life Orb set, although Balloon / Shuca Berry can allow Heatran to survive some Earthquakes and strike back.
    • Pokemon that attract Fire attacks such as Forretress, Scizor and Genosect can give Heatran a free oppurtunity to get Stealth Rock up.
    [SET]
    name: Choice Scarf
    move 1: Fire Blast
    move 2: Earth Power
    move 3: Dragon Pulse
    move 4: Hidden Power Grass
    item: Choice Scarf
    evs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
    nature: Timid

    Set Comments:
    • Can revenge kill a variety of foes with its good coverage and high Speed with Choice Scarf equiped.
    • Without the need for an auxillary move, Heatran can afford to run both Hidden Power and Dragon Pulse on the same set.
    • Outspeeds base 140s with the Choice Scarf boost.
    Additional Comments:
    • Hidden Power Electric is usable over Hidden Power Grass since Heatran is able to outspeed +1 Adamant Gyarados.
    Teammates & Counters:
    • The usual suspects from other Heatran sets are handy for Scarf Heatran as well.
    • Because of the move locking ability Choice Scarf brings, Heatran is more suspectable to being set up upon, so be sure to prepare for that problem.
    [Team Options]
    • Entry hazards help Heatran in the same way they do for most offensive Pokemon, by weakening its checks to the point where they can't safely switch in.
    • Celebi has great synergy with Heatran thanks to its typing and the ability to deal with Water types. Complementing Heatran and Celebi with a bulky Water type gives a nice defensive core that can check a large group of Pokemon.
    • Groudon's Drought ability can boost the power of Heatran's STAB attacks to astronomical proportions.
    [Optional Changes]

    • Choice Specs gives Heatran some almost ridiculously overpowered attacks. Overheat is recommended on a Choice Specs set for raw power, especially after a Flash Fire boost.
    • Heatran's unique typing and decent 91/106/106 defenses means that a specially defensive RestTalk set is viable. Lava Plume and Roar give Heatran the ability to phaze and spread burn.
    • Magma Storm has the handy attributes of preventing double switches and causing recoil damage, but it's no more powerful than Fire Blast and less accurate. Speaking of accuracy, Flamethrower is an option for any Heatran set if you don't like Fire Blast's tendency to miss and don't mind a drop in power.
    • Explosion is still available on Heatran, but it now lacks the halfing of Defense effect that made it so powerful in Gen 4, so it won't be able to KO Blissey without some investment in Attack.
    [Counters]
    • Water types such as Burungeru, Suicune, Daikenki etc. will be able to take Heatran's Fire attacks and KO it with Surf or Waterfall.
    • Like most special attackers, Heatran will have troubles with Blissey and Snorlax. Taunt can hinder Blissey, but Snorlax can easily use Earthquake to take down Heatran.
    [Dream World]
    • Heatran gets the abilty Flame Body from the Dream World.
    • Flame Body isn't a bad ability by any means, but Flash Fire is much useful, as it gives an immunity to Fire, a very common offensive type, powers up Heatran's STAB attacks and isn't luck-based.
  2. KnightoftheWind

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    Sorry this took a while, but I've finally finished Heatran.
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    on the stealth rocker i think dragon pulse/will-o-wisp are pretty solid in that last slot. i don't really see the utility of hp grass as you're really not doing that much damage to any grass weak mons except swampert i guess and letting one of the many dragons have a guaranteed free turn is definitely not fun.
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    Fixed formatting changes, marked as done.
  5. KnightoftheWind

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    Moved Hidden Power Grass to Additional Comments, added Dragon Pulse as the main option and added Will-o-Wisp into Additional Comments on Jabba's suggestion.
  6. cim

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    Flamethrower needs a slash on the Scarf set IMO. While it's inferior damage wise, because a Choice Scarf set is being used as a revenge killer and is occasionally the only thing stopping Pokemon XYZ from sweeping, battlers may decide they really can't risk missing 15% of the time.

    I think Choice Specs is worthy of a set simply because it's the most reliable way to beat Bulky Waters and pretty much any Pokemon. Repeated Fire Blasts from a Specs Heatran can kill anything. It's just too powerful
  7. Great Sage

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    Heatran can't bluff a Choice set by using Balloon; there is an activation message whenever a Pokemon holding Balloon switches in that says something like "[Pokemon] is floating on a balloon!"
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