Hitmonchan (Bulk Up)

Aeron Ee1

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Taking this over NightShadow, who made this set and got it through QC but then went inactive. His thread can be found and locked here.

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STAMPS

QC: 2/2:

(uragg)
(Bluewind)

GP: 2/2:

(Snorlaxe)
(Fatecrashers)

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http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/hitmonchan

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[SET]
name: Bulk Up
move 1: Bulk Up
move 2: Drain Punch
move 3: Ice Punch
move 4: Substitute / Mach Punch / ThunderPunch
item: Leftovers
ability: Iron Fist
nature: Adamant
evs: 160 HP / 252 Atk / 96 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>Hitmonchan has a good Attack stat, decent special bulk, and a very useful ability that boosts his high-PP, low-Base Power STAB moves, making him a natural user of Bulk Up. Drain Punch is Hitmonchan's only form of recovery outside of Rest, and its Base Power is boosted considreably thanks to Iron Fist, making it the main STAB move for the set. Ice Punch provides excellent coverage alongside Drain Punch, and is also boosted by Iron Fist. In the final slot, Substitute is very useful, as it blocks status and Trick, both of which could horribly cripple Hitmonchan. After a few Bulk Up boosts, some physical attackers will start to fail to break Hitmonchan's Substitute, thus effectively increasing his longevity. However, Mach Punch is a useful priority move that has the bonus of being boosted by Iron Fist. Finally, ThunderPunch hits bulky Water-types harder than Drain Punch, 2HKOing the standard defensive Milotic after just one Bulk Up boost, and is also powered up by Iron Fist.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>Focus Punch may be used over Drain Punch in conjunction with Substitute, enabling Hitmonchan to outright OHKO the standard defensive Milotic with Stealth Rock support. However, trying to fully set up for one is quite troublesome, and you'll end up using either just Bulk Up or Focus Punch almost all of the time. The 96 Speed EVs allow Hitmonchan to outspeed Adamant Torterra, Attack is maximized for Hitmonchan to hit as hard as possible, and the rest go into HP to increase Hitmonchan's ability to set up in the face of attacking moves; Leftovers also helps with this.</p>

<p>This set is more or less countered by physically bulky Pokemon that aren't weak to any of Hitmonchan's attacks; Weezing resists Fighting, and can cripple Hitmonchan with Will-O-Wisp. Claydol and Nidoqueen also fare quite well against Hitmonchan when he lacks Ice Punch, as they also resist his STAB, and can set up screens or Roar him away and set up Toxic Spikes, respectively. Therefore, a powerful special attacker such as Alakazam, who is able to deal with the aforementioned Pokemon, makes a great teammate. Hitmonchan also appreciates entry hazard support, as would any offensive Pokemon; Uxie is a great choice to set up Stealth Rock due to its defensive synergy with the Punching Pokemon.</p>

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Post-critique changes a la bmb
  • GP Check 1 - Snorlaxe
  • [SET] format reminder - Flora
  • GP Check 2 - Fatecrashers
 

Snorlaxe

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GP CHECK 1/2

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[SET]
name: Bulk Up
move 1: Bulk Up
move 2: Drain Punch
move 3: Ice Punch
move 4: Substitute / Mach Punch / ThunderPunch
item: Leftovers
nature: Adamant
evs: 160 HP / 252 Atk / 96 Spe
ability: Iron Fist

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>Hitmonchan has a good Attack stat, decent special bulk, and a very useful ability that helps its high-PP, low-Base Power STAB moves, making it a natural user of Bulk Up. Drain Punch is Hitmonchan's only form of recovery outside of Rest, and its Base Power is not completely hopeless boosted considerably thanks to Iron Fist, which is why it is making it the main STAB move for the set. Ice Punch provides excellent coverage alongside Drain Punch, and it is also boosted by Iron Fist. In the final slot, Substitute is very useful, as it blocks status, and Trick, and critical hits, all both of which could horribly cripple Hitmonchan, as well as critical hits. Hitmonchan. After a few Bulk Ups Up boosts, Pokemon physical attackers will start to fail to break Hitmonchan's Substitute, very efficiently increasing its longevity. However, Mach Punch is also very useful, as a general useful priority move that has the bonus of being boosted by Iron Fist, and so is Fist. ThunderPunch hits which hits bulky Water-types harder than Drain Punch, 2HKOing the standard Bulky Water Milotic after just one Bulk Up boost, and is also boosted by Iron Fist.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>Focus Punch may be used over Drain Punch in conjuction with Substitute, being an insanely powerful move after even just one Bulk Up; outright OHKOing as it enables Hitmonchan to OHKO the standard Bulky Water Milotic with Stealth Rock support. However, trying to fully set up for just one is quite troublesome, and you'll end up with using just one or the other (Bulk Up or Focus Punch) almost all the time. 96 Speed EVs let Hitmonchan outspeed Adamant Torterra, Torterra Attack is maximized so that Hitmonchan can hit as hard as possible, and the rest remaining EVs go into Hitmonchan's ability to set up in the face of attacking moves; Leftovers also helps with this.</p>

<p>This set is more or less countered by physically bulky Pokemon that aren't weak to any of Hitmonchan's attacks; Weezing resists Fighting, and can cripple Hitmonchan with Will-O-Wisp. Claydol and Nidoqueen also fair fare quite well against Hitmonchan when he is without lacks Ice Punch, as they also resist its his STAB, and can set up screens or Roar it him away and set up Toxic Spikes, respectively, to hinder its ability to sweep. Spikes. Therefore, a powerful special attacker like such as Alakazam, who is able to deal with the aforementioned Pokemon, makes it a great teammate. Hitmonchan also appreciates entry hazard support, as would any offensive Pokemon; Uxie is a great choice to set up Stealth Rock, Rock due to its great defensive synergy synergising very decently with Hitmonchan as well.</p>


sorry, i was interrupted halfway through my check by my horrible computer :(

 

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Just swinging by for something minor:

[SET]
name: Bulk Up
move 1: Bulk Up
move 2: Drain Punch
move 3: Ice Punch
move 4: Substitute / Mach Punch / ThunderPunch
item: Leftovers
ability: Iron Fist
nature: Adamant
evs: 160 HP / 252 Atk / 96 Spe
ability: Iron Fist
 

Fatecrashers

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GP CHECK 2: Lost in New York

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[SET]
name: Bulk Up
move 1: Bulk Up
move 2: Drain Punch
move 3: Ice Punch
move 4: Substitute / Mach Punch / ThunderPunch
item: Leftovers
ability: Iron Fist
nature: Adamant
evs: 160 HP / 252 Atk / 96 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>Hitmonchan has a good Attack stat, decent special bulk, and a very useful ability that helps boosts its high-PP, low-Base Power STAB moves, making it a natural user of Bulk Up. Drain Punch is Hitmonchan's only form of recovery outside of Rest, and its Base Power is boosted considreably thanks to Iron Fist, making it is the main STAB move for the set. Ice Punch provides excellent coverage alongside Drain Punch, and is also boosted by Iron Fist. In the final slot, Substitute is very useful, as it blocks status and Trick, both of which could horribly cripple Hitmonchan. After a few Bulk Up boosts, some physical attackers will start to fail to break Hitmonchan's Substitute, thus effectively very efficiently increasing its longevity. However, Mach Punch is a useful priority move that has the bonus of being boosted by Iron Fist. Finally, ThunderPunch hits bulky Water-types harder than Drain Punch, 2HKOing the standard Bulky Water Milotic after just one Bulk Up boost, and is also powered up by Iron Fist.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>Focus Punch may be used over Drain Punch in conjunction with Substitute, enabling Hitmonchan to outright OHKO the standard Bulky Water Milotic with Stealth Rock support. However, trying to fully set up for just one is quite troublesome, and you'll end up using either just Bulk Up or just Focus Punch just one or the other (Bulk Up or Focus Punch) almost all of the time. The 96 Speed EVs allow Hitmonchan to outspeed Adamant Torterra, Attack is maximized for Hitmonchan to hit as hard as possible, and the rest go into Hitmonchan's HP to increase itsability to set up in the face of attacking moves; Leftovers also helps with this.</p>

<p>This set is more or less countered by physically-bulky Pokemon that aren't weak to any of Hitmonchan's attacks; Weezing resists Fighting, and can cripple Hitmonchan with Will-O-Wisp. Claydol and Nidoqueen also fare quite well against Hitmonchan when he it lacks Ice Punch, as they also resist its STAB, and can set up screens or Roar him away and set up Toxic Spikes, respectively. Therefore, a powerful special attacker such as Alakazam, who is able to deal with the aforementioned Pokemon, makes a great teammate. Hitmonchan also appreciates entry hazard support, as would any offensive Pokemon; Uxie is a great choice to set up Stealth Rock due to its defensive synergy with the Punching Pokemon.</p>


Snorlaxe covered most of it.

 

Aeron Ee1

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Thank you Fatecrashers. But a couple things I'm not sure what to do on =o :

OHKO the standard Bulky Water Milotic with Stealth Rock support.
The name of the set on-site is Bulky Water..

<p>This set is more or less countered by physically-bulky Pokemon that aren't weak to any of Hitmonchan's attacks
if physically defensive isn't hyphenated, is physically bulky supposed to be?

The current on-site analysis refers to Hitmonchan as a 'he'.
 

Fatecrashers

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The name of the set on-site is Bulky Water..
Didn't know that, in that case ignore my deletion of 'Water'.

if physically defensive isn't hyphenated, is physically bulky supposed to be?
My preference is for both to be hyphenated, I didn't see 'physically defensive' in this analysis in any case.

The current on-site analysis refers to Hitmonchan as a 'he'.
'He' is used only once in this moveset analysis, either change all the 'it' and 'its' to 'he' and 'his', or just make this one change. I'm not sure consistency with the rest of the onsite analysis actually matters.
 
If the set is named "Bulky Water" then that should be changed. Furthermore, you shouldn't even be referring to specific sets on other Pokemon, since both sets and their names are liable to change constantly. (Like how I am about to change Bulky Water to the proper set name) Please use:
OHKO the standard defensive Bulky Water Milotic with Stealth Rock support.
Fatecrashers said:
I'm not sure consistency with the rest of the onsite analysis actually matters.
It does.
 

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