By not letting Tentacruel get in with rain up? I do it all the time.sub toxic tentacruel destroys stall teams. You cant beat it in rain at all. I would love someone to tell me a scenario in which you do beat it.
You're not using a balls to the wall stall team then. Tenta shits all over full stall teams. You can't stop it from spinning unless you deviate from true stall or your main goal is to rely on guessing to beat it. which is unreliable.By not letting Tentacruel get in with rain up? I do it all the time.
tr reunicluss used to be very popular on stall back in bw1 so.. yeah, especially cm recover reuinisub toxic tentacruel destroys stall teams. You cant beat it in rain at all. I would love someone to tell me a scenario in which you do beat it.
It's a bitch to take down for rain stall, but you can manage between ferro and a cleric Chansey. In the sand, the pink blobs/celebi can wear it down quickly. I play rain stall quite a bit and the only spinner that really bothers me is bulky starmie. Tentacruel will be able to spin but you can wear it down.sub toxic tentacruel destroys stall teams. You cant beat it in rain at all. I would love someone to tell me a scenario in which you do beat it.
There are a few misconceptions in this post which I would like to address, Curtains. First of all, a "balls to the wall" stall team is not what stall is all about. In BW, there are far too many threats to create said team without acquiring too many weaknesses. More often than not, good stall teams in Gen5 will revolve around having a Spikes setter, a Stealth Rock setter, and a good core to abuse the hazards. Being aggressive with stall is how you're going to succeed the best in this generation. If you don't understand what I mean, let me give you an example. Oristeros, a Team West WCOP player in BW1 who was an avid stall player, went 5-1 (iirc) and often used sand balance. His best team was Hippowdon / Heatran / Scarf Tyranitar / Jellicent / Celebi / Forretress. The way that he played the team revolved around getting Forretress in early game and then being aggressive with Celebi U-turn's ---> Roar Heatran or Roar Hippowdon to rack up damage. The team features a check to practically every Pokemon in BW1, and it's so well built that it still works amazingly in today's metagame. The team also has a Scarfer in Scarf Tyranitar to trap Starmie, Gengar, and to outspeed other pesky things like Tornadus. Stall is not about "balls to the wall" stall anymore is my point. It is about making sacrifices to get up hazards early and walling your opponent's team while being smart with your own phazing. Stall often resorts to a Scarfer to accommodate for all the speedy threats of the metagame. Gengar and Tornadus are nigh-on-impossible to stop without a Specially Defensive Jirachi, so running a Scarf Tyranitar is a way to help with both of the aforementioned Pokemon while still being able to trap Starmie. Meru's sand team features a Stoutland to act as a cleaner to abuse hazards, and it can even revenge Dragons with its blazing speed and power. Speed and quick hazards are the best way to play stall nowadays at a competitive level.You're not using a balls to the wall stall team then. Tenta shits all over full stall teams. You can't stop it from spinning unless you deviate from true stall or your main goal is to rely on guessing to beat it. which is unreliable.
that is pretty interesting how many tenta kills did you get with that? That seems like a solid breloom check as well. But I honestly agree that without some sort of creative working strategy stall is just giving yourself a handicap. Stuff like sableye and other obscure but working pokemon just gives stall too much trouble to be worth it.Tentacruel was shitting all over my sand stall team so I switched Celebi to Extrasensory Roserade. Yeah it's niche, but it works \o/
You need to get creative with stall of any kind if you want it to work, or you're going to have to accept that a lot of things will beat you. Magic Coat Jellicent turns the tables on Custap HO teams, and even if/when you let it set up hazards on your side it isn't too hard to bait something into Outrage and spin with Forretress. (Incidentally, Forry and Jellicent do marvelous together!)
Tentacruel was shitting all over my sand stall team so I switched Celebi to Extrasensory Roserade. Yeah it's niche, but it works \o/You're not using a balls to the wall stall team then. Tenta shits all over full stall teams. You can't stop it from spinning unless you deviate from true stall or your main goal is to rely on guessing to beat it. which is unreliable.
Go to skarm/thundy to force a spore, and then kill it with celebi. Assuming either Chansey or celebi is a cleric you can then remove the sleep.is there any way to stop a Swords Dance Techniloom when using full stall? or are you better off sacking a pokemon so you can revenge kill it easily?
because I use a full stall team of Skarmory/Chansey/Jellicent/Heatran/Celebi/Thundurus-t (generic I know) and I was wondering if there was a way to beat Breloom without sacking any pokes