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All Gens Implementing all old gens in PS - Testers required!

Discussion in 'Ruins of Alph' started by Joim, May 7, 2013.

  1. Bedschibaer

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    So lovely kiss isn't a sleep inducing move?
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    Yeah, Sleep Perish Trap is not properly banned. Just tested all the cases.

    - Hypnosis/Mean Look/Perish Song is banned, banning SleepPerishTrap Misdreavus and Gengar but not LK PerishTrap Jynx or any of the SleepPerishTrap Smeargle variations.
    - The correct ban for SleepPerishTrap is (Sing/Hypnosis/Lovely Kiss/Sleep Powder/Spore)+(Mean Look/Spider Web)+Perish Song.

    Alternate proposed bans by the GSC community include "SleepPerishTrap/SleepTrapPass" = (Sing/Hypno/LK/SlpPowd/Spore)+(ML/SW)+(Perish Song/Baton Pass), "SleepTrap" = (Sing/Hypno/LK/SlpPowd/Spore)+(ML/SW), and "HypnoMissy only" = Misdreavus+Hypnosis+Mean Look+Perish Song. But arguing over that is beyond the scope of this thread - what matters is that the current ban is not any of these.
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    Some "unviable" moves are excluded in the calculator, even ones that may actually be used on certain Pokemon (the chances of that is extremely low though).

    For a basic move like Swift, simply changing the power on any normal move to 60 should suffice.

    Since you can change the base powers, adding them is obviously not a thing to put on the list of things to do (for accuracy and convenience, I think it should still be done, but whatever).

    Fly isn't there. Waterfall isn't there. Interestingly, Tackle is there.

    *Edit*

    Including all moves is actually on the list of things to do, just checked.
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  5. magic9mushroom

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    Okay. Mega Kick should be there, though, as it's actually worthy of consideration in RBY (I've used it myself and seen top players use it). Without Return existing, or Double-Edge being as powerful as in later generations, Mega Kick is the strongest every-turn Normal-type move after accounting for accuracy and recoil.
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    you probably want to refer your damage calc issues to Honko's Damage Calculator thread

    Btw, is the Sleep Perish Trap clause fixed yet?
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    No, the jynx set is still legal, have only tested that. I haven't found anything in the latest commits on the github either. Guess it's not very high up on the priority list anyways.
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    Is that how it should be?
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    That's some Team Rocket guy you've faced there
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    yeah Bedschibaer the same thing happened to me in gen 3 ou, i made a bug report in the showdown bug report thread, hopefully that should be resolved.

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