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Discussion in 'Ruins of Alph' started by Joim, May 7, 2013.
So lovely kiss isn't a sleep inducing move?
Yeah, Sleep Perish Trap is not properly banned. Just tested all the cases.
- Hypnosis/Mean Look/Perish Song is banned, banning SleepPerishTrap Misdreavus and Gengar but not LK PerishTrap Jynx or any of the SleepPerishTrap Smeargle variations.
- The correct ban for SleepPerishTrap is (Sing/Hypnosis/Lovely Kiss/Sleep Powder/Spore)+(Mean Look/Spider Web)+Perish Song.
Alternate proposed bans by the GSC community include "SleepPerishTrap/SleepTrapPass" = (Sing/Hypno/LK/SlpPowd/Spore)+(ML/SW)+(Perish Song/Baton Pass), "SleepTrap" = (Sing/Hypno/LK/SlpPowd/Spore)+(ML/SW), and "HypnoMissy only" = Misdreavus+Hypnosis+Mean Look+Perish Song. But arguing over that is beyond the scope of this thread - what matters is that the current ban is not any of these.
Doesn't recognise that Swift is a move in RBY. It is.
Some "unviable" moves are excluded in the calculator, even ones that may actually be used on certain Pokemon (the chances of that is extremely low though).
For a basic move like Swift, simply changing the power on any normal move to 60 should suffice.
Since you can change the base powers, adding them is obviously not a thing to put on the list of things to do (for accuracy and convenience, I think it should still be done, but whatever).
Fly isn't there. Waterfall isn't there. Interestingly, Tackle is there.
Including all moves is actually on the list of things to do, just checked.
Okay. Mega Kick should be there, though, as it's actually worthy of consideration in RBY (I've used it myself and seen top players use it). Without Return existing, or Double-Edge being as powerful as in later generations, Mega Kick is the strongest every-turn Normal-type move after accounting for accuracy and recoil.
you probably want to refer your damage calc issues to Honko's Damage Calculator thread
Btw, is the Sleep Perish Trap clause fixed yet?
No, the jynx set is still legal, have only tested that. I haven't found anything in the latest commits on the github either. Guess it's not very high up on the priority list anyways.
Is that how it should be?
just going to leave this here. GSC doubles new meta!
That's some Team Rocket guy you've faced there
yeah Bedschibaer the same thing happened to me in gen 3 ou, i made a bug report in the showdown bug report thread, hopefully that should be resolved.