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It's offical, the new formes DON'T work on wifi or union room.

Discussion in 'Stark Mountain' started by c l e a r, Sep 14, 2008.

  1. c l e a r

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    Let's back up this with some proof. If you want a video, I'll try to make one.

    I have a Shaymin obtained from the Event at the movie a few months ago, via a WC.

    Traded Shaymin over to Platinum, obtained the "Galardia's Flower", Shaymin changes to Sky Forme.

    Entered the Wifi lobby, it has been changed so now you can walk around and stuff.

    Exited the Wifi lobby without doing anything, no one is connected.

    When I checked when I exited, Shaymin is in Land Forme.

    I'm 99% sure it will go as the following for any other formes too. I don't think connectivity has anything to do with it. The game justs... resets them as they enter the Wifi/Union Room.

    Update: I tried to reuse "Galardia's Flower" it the Union Room, it doesn't allow it. It only allows to set it as a shortcut or cancel, don't ask.

    Update 2: Thanks to Syberia, we now know it is limited to local connectivity ONLY. I deleted the other "false" stuff now.
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    Okay before we come into a complete conclusion.

    Have you tried battling someone? Maybe the formes will change back to what they were supposed to (unlikely)

    Have you tried reattaching the Platinum Orb on Giratina (I'm pretty sure you can reattach things in the room but this one could be an exception)?

    Have you completed the E4 and got the National Dex? (Ehh I dunno)
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    Very slight chance this happened, but what time did you test this?

    I really think there's some way to get them on wifi... I mean those pictures </3
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    Jibaku seems determined to find every possible solution to it
  5. Chill

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    "So, please, don't talk about my Skymin is uber, cause it cannot be used at all."

    I don't think it's up to you. XD Just so you know I'm not for or against including them in shoddy, I just think saying "they can't be used" is jumping the gun a bit. If the majority decide to implement them on shoddy (or another online simulator) they will probably be there.

    I'm just saying we have a server for fake pokemon so I wouldn't rule anything out just yet.
  6. c l e a r

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    heheh, of course I won't make a silly mistake like that.

    I changed my clock to day, of course.

    Or do you wish to test it with me and prove it once and for all?

    I would rule it out, it's not like Arceus or the 200 R/S metagame, they cannot be linked at all. Isn't shoddy and other bots a replica as close as to the real game as possible?
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    yeah i can't believe they would limit those pokemon to in game play, and those pictures!
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    It's too early to come to this conclusion. Maybe if some codes were released people could play around with them and see what happens?
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    Really, now, it is far too early to even think about writing this off as unusable. Remeber, Sky Shaymin & Origin Gritinia haven't even been DISCUSSED in America. For all we know, this could just be this way to prevent its usage pre-maturly.

    Hell, Platinum hasn't been discussed in America yet. I mean officially. Sources like Serebii doesn't count, as they got their infomation from Japanese sources, "leaked", if you will, to America. Not one hardcoar 10 year old Pokemon fanatic (which is what the game is aimmed at, regardless of what we would like to think) has any idea about these pokes at all. So just give it time before we sign it off as unusable.
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    i'd wait for Nintendo to say something in Corocoro or something to completely rule them out, i still think there is a way get them on wifi.

    maybe its a glitch on the roms you people are playing in, im getting the real game soon and hope to test this out.
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    Remember how in PBR, all ubers were banned temporarily due to some accident or something? I think it's the same case here.

    However, I'd still wait.
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    Maybe someone with some Japanese knowledge should contact NOJ or something of the sort?
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    The second screenshot is just the Torn World battle... but they did should O-Tina in a wifi battle...
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    It's like people on this site doesn't read.

    As i said, it is too early to even tink about writing this off as unusable.
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    If we got someone with a real-cart to do it, then I am convinced. Besides, not like Nintendo are super experts that can tell if a game is from a flash card or not; if it did, it shouldn't let me online at all. It behaves like the real game other than connectivity to the wii.

    In any case, I'll gladly let you use the Shaymin, if anyone has it.
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    Like I said I'm not for or against their implementation. Both are uber (or in the case of Skymin very likely uber) which I don't play. So it doesn't affect me either way.

    But as I also said we have a server where pokemon that don't even exist are used. So...
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    Also the fact that they had that video they showed giratina vs dialga. They told you all those strategies on how to beat dialga, like give giratina carbos, teach it outrage, protect, mudslap, and spite. I mean when are you going to be in an ingame situtation where you have to fight a level 50 dialga?

    EDIT: yeah that's one of the points :/ there is no level 50 dialga in game
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    WAIT.

    Do we have any Japanese sources for this?

    Is it possible they've been banned on American Wi-Fi until Platinum comes out here...?
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    THANK YOU.

    I said this TWICE. Seriously, we do not have enough info to even regard this as a fact.
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    Dialga is Level 70 in Platinum.
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    Well, in the video it was shown that Dialga was indeed traded from Diamond to Platinum
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    No problem.

    Seriously, even though Gamefreak gave us all this bullshit with the Rotom forms forgetting moves and stuff, I doubt they would HIGHLY HYPE these new Pokemon and then not let people use them on Wi-Fi. That's terrible PR.
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    That's the screenshot I was looking for Everstone :) But is it even possible for Nintendo to "ban" Alternate Formes from non-Japanese Wifi? Suppose it was, would they bother to do such a thing anyway? Technically I think the back of the game box says "only for use in Japan/whatever region here", so wouldn't they just ban the game from other Wifi altogether, assuming they could?
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    It's only a theory. They very well can ban certain things from American Wi-Fi.

    I would say check Japanese blogs or something for screenshots and see if it's correct....

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