approved by oglemi
ive been fixing errors that are onsite but a lot of them are more than just subjective changes and they are ones i dont understand - this is where i need you guys. basically, if i have a question, i would like you guys to answer "why" because some shit i dont understand in analysis and they either require explanation or need to be revised to be more efficient
id really prefer other people not asking "why" for right now because i dont want this thread to become cluttered with people asking dumb questions that cant be answered - this thread is for things that arent really clear onsite. this doesnt apply to badgeholders who have free reign to comb over analysis, they are free to use this thread as well.
i cant really say how many questions ill ask but expect them to be in this thread, youll earn some definite points with me if you can provide clear confident answers about what i ask. if anyone wants to go through analysis with me and find these sort of things, and you dont have a badge, pm me and i can work with you
ill be starting with this:
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[SET]
name: Tank
move 1: Stealth Rock
move 2: Gyro Ball
move 3: Hidden Power Ice / Toxic
move 4: Earthquake
item: Leftovers
ability: Levitate
nature: Sassy
evs: 252 HP / 84 Atk / 80 Def / 92 SpD
ivs: 2 Spe
[SET COMMENTS]
<p>With great defensive typing and bulk, Bronzong is one of the best users of Stealth Rock in OU. With this set, it has the ability to wall some of the most prominent threats in OU, such as Landorus. Gyro Ball is Bronzong's STAB move of choice and, due to its abysmal Speed, will generally deal major damage to the opponent's Pokemon. Hidden Power Ice is very useful since most of the threats Bronzong walls are weak to Ice-type attacks; specifically, Hidden Power Ice lets it destroy Landorus and Gliscor, to name a few. The last slot belongs to Earthquake and it helpfully prevents Bronzong from becoming setup bait for opposing Magnezone.</p>
[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
<p>When using this set, a Sassy nature with the aforementioned defensive EVs allow Bronzong to be a sturdy mixed wall, while not reducing its offensive potential. The 84 Attack EVs allow Bronzong to hit a bit harder and a Sassy nature (and 2 Speed IVs) reduces its Speed, powering up Gyro Ball. Levitate is by far the best option, granting an immunity to Ground-type attacks that would otherwise prevent Bronzong from walling the Sandstorm teams like it's supposed to.</p>
<p>Heatproof can be used as a more gimmicky ability that can work since most opponents will leave their Fire-types in thinking they will OHKO, and Bronzong can take the attack and OHKO back. Hypnosis can be used instead of Earthquake on the last slot if one is using Bronzong on a team that isn't troubled by Magnezone, but its shaky accuracy will often let you down. Toxic is also an option to poison bulky walls that can switch in on Bronzong and wall it all day, such as Hippowdon, Vaporeon, and Jellicent; however, one must take into account that Bronzong will be hopeless against Steel-types.</p>
<p>Since Bronzong has to come in multiple times to face the threats it's supposed to wall, Wish support is priceless to make up for the lack of reliable recovery; Vaporeon has great synergy with Bronzong and can pass giant Wishes while Bronzong takes the Grass-type attacks aimed at it. Bronzong's toughest opponents are Fire- and Fighting-type Pokemon, so having a teammate to check them is mandatory; Jellicent resists one of those types and is immune to the other, and thus is a very good teammate. It's also able to cripple the Steel-types with Will-O-Wisp if Bronzong isn't running Earthquake.</p>
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what is going on with the evs here? "hit a bit harder" is not an explanation when one of the most common things in pokemon is the wide array of dragon-type attacks going around - bronzong has a unique niche in resisting these and being immune to earthquake..so why are we taking from his defenses and putting them into attack?
if theres a reason for this ev spread, please tell me so i can edit it into AC on why these evs are the way they are - if not, please suggest more a more viable ev spread
ive been fixing errors that are onsite but a lot of them are more than just subjective changes and they are ones i dont understand - this is where i need you guys. basically, if i have a question, i would like you guys to answer "why" because some shit i dont understand in analysis and they either require explanation or need to be revised to be more efficient
id really prefer other people not asking "why" for right now because i dont want this thread to become cluttered with people asking dumb questions that cant be answered - this thread is for things that arent really clear onsite. this doesnt apply to badgeholders who have free reign to comb over analysis, they are free to use this thread as well.
i cant really say how many questions ill ask but expect them to be in this thread, youll earn some definite points with me if you can provide clear confident answers about what i ask. if anyone wants to go through analysis with me and find these sort of things, and you dont have a badge, pm me and i can work with you
ill be starting with this:
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[SET]
name: Tank
move 1: Stealth Rock
move 2: Gyro Ball
move 3: Hidden Power Ice / Toxic
move 4: Earthquake
item: Leftovers
ability: Levitate
nature: Sassy
evs: 252 HP / 84 Atk / 80 Def / 92 SpD
ivs: 2 Spe
[SET COMMENTS]
<p>With great defensive typing and bulk, Bronzong is one of the best users of Stealth Rock in OU. With this set, it has the ability to wall some of the most prominent threats in OU, such as Landorus. Gyro Ball is Bronzong's STAB move of choice and, due to its abysmal Speed, will generally deal major damage to the opponent's Pokemon. Hidden Power Ice is very useful since most of the threats Bronzong walls are weak to Ice-type attacks; specifically, Hidden Power Ice lets it destroy Landorus and Gliscor, to name a few. The last slot belongs to Earthquake and it helpfully prevents Bronzong from becoming setup bait for opposing Magnezone.</p>
[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
<p>When using this set, a Sassy nature with the aforementioned defensive EVs allow Bronzong to be a sturdy mixed wall, while not reducing its offensive potential. The 84 Attack EVs allow Bronzong to hit a bit harder and a Sassy nature (and 2 Speed IVs) reduces its Speed, powering up Gyro Ball. Levitate is by far the best option, granting an immunity to Ground-type attacks that would otherwise prevent Bronzong from walling the Sandstorm teams like it's supposed to.</p>
<p>Heatproof can be used as a more gimmicky ability that can work since most opponents will leave their Fire-types in thinking they will OHKO, and Bronzong can take the attack and OHKO back. Hypnosis can be used instead of Earthquake on the last slot if one is using Bronzong on a team that isn't troubled by Magnezone, but its shaky accuracy will often let you down. Toxic is also an option to poison bulky walls that can switch in on Bronzong and wall it all day, such as Hippowdon, Vaporeon, and Jellicent; however, one must take into account that Bronzong will be hopeless against Steel-types.</p>
<p>Since Bronzong has to come in multiple times to face the threats it's supposed to wall, Wish support is priceless to make up for the lack of reliable recovery; Vaporeon has great synergy with Bronzong and can pass giant Wishes while Bronzong takes the Grass-type attacks aimed at it. Bronzong's toughest opponents are Fire- and Fighting-type Pokemon, so having a teammate to check them is mandatory; Jellicent resists one of those types and is immune to the other, and thus is a very good teammate. It's also able to cripple the Steel-types with Will-O-Wisp if Bronzong isn't running Earthquake.</p>
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what is going on with the evs here? "hit a bit harder" is not an explanation when one of the most common things in pokemon is the wide array of dragon-type attacks going around - bronzong has a unique niche in resisting these and being immune to earthquake..so why are we taking from his defenses and putting them into attack?
if theres a reason for this ev spread, please tell me so i can edit it into AC on why these evs are the way they are - if not, please suggest more a more viable ev spread