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Completed I've Started A Trend: Athenodoros vs Temperantia (Ref Darkamber8828)

Discussion in 'ASB' started by Darkamber8828, Nov 13, 2011.

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  1. Darkamber8828

    Darkamber8828

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    It said only send two Pokemon to the ref, Temperantia, so I'll just pretend your unapproved Bellsprout doesn't exist yet.

    Since you didn't post any rules, I'll assume Switch=KO, All Abilities, No Items, Fox only, Final Destination.

    Athenodoros (open)
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    Daedalus the Smeargle (M)
    Nature: Nature: Hasty (Multiplies base Speed by 1.15 and provides a flat accuracy boost on all attacks equal to its new Base Speed squared, then divided based on its evolution stage. [+9% Acc.], subtracts one (1) Rank from Defence.)
    Type: Normal

    Normal: Normal STAB; adapt comfortably to any surrounding after 3 actions. Able to use Outrage without losing focus.

    Abilities:
    Own Tempo: (Innate) This Pokemon moves at its own pace and when confused, it will never harm itself in confusion. If the Pokemon also has Tangled Feet, it will raise Accuracy by one (1) Stage.

    Technician: (Innate) This Pokemon is more skilled at performing weaker moves, causing any of their attacks that normally have 6 or less Base Attack Power to have their Base Attack Power multiplied by 1.5. (e.g. Aerial Ace goes from 6 to 9, Mach Punch goes from 4 to 6, etc.) The Energy Cost for a one-hit or two-hit attack is increased by one (1). Each hit in a multi-hit move is boosted by one (1) Base Attack Power, and the Energy Cost for multi-hit attacks is increased by two (2). Because Technician is a multiplier on single hit moves, its effect is applied to Base Attack Power before any additive effects.

    Moody (DW): (Innate) This Pokemon's traits are always fluctuating from one strength to another. At the end of each round, one of the Pokemon's stats (Attack, Defense, Special Attack, Special Defense, Speed, Accuracy, Evasion) will be boosted by two (2) stages and another will be reduced by one (1) stage. This stat change lasts until the end of that round, where Moody is re-applied, overwriting the boosted and dropped stats. This stat boost/drop occurs outside the normal boosts/drops.

    Stats:
    HP: 90
    Atk: Rank 1
    Def: Rank 1 (-)
    SpA: Rank 1
    SpD: Rank 2
    Spe: 87 (+)
    Size Class: 2
    Weight Class: 4
    Base Rank Total: 11

    EC: Doesn't evolve
    MC: 0
    DC: 1/5

    Attacks:
    Agility
    Dragon Pulse
    Extremespeed
    Haze
    Rain Dance
    Surf
    Thunder Wave
    Bide
    Counter
    Mirror Coat
    Pain Split
    Torment
    Taunt
    Sketch Slot
    Sketch Slot
    Sketch Slot

    Moves: 13

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    Lapras (M), "Typhon"

    Nature:
    Quiet - Adds * to Special Attack. A 15% decrease (rounded down) in Base Speed and a +5% increase in accuracy (e.g. 85 becomes 90) on an opponent's attacks.

    Type:
    Ice - Ice STAB; immune to freezing, no vision loss or damage in Hail, perfectly accurate and 30% Protect breaking Blizzard in Hail, Hail heals burns on Ice-typed Pokemon.
    Water - Water STAB; Can breathe and have excellent mobility when underwater, are less capable on land unless they are entirely amphibious. Splash and Ice Moves have Energy Cost reduced by one (1).

    Abilities:
    Water Absorb - (Innate) This Pokemon absorbs water attacks and instead of taking damage from them, recovering 50% of the damage the water attack would have done. A Pokemon that attacks itself with water to heal only recieves 25% of the damage that attack would do to itself.
    Shell Armour - (Innate) This Pokemon’s thick, bony outer shell prevents it from taking critical hits.
    Hydration (DW) - (Innate) This Pokemon absorbs water during the rain to heal any status effects afflicting this Pokemon.

    HP: 120
    Atk: ***
    Def: ***
    SpA: **** (+)
    SpD: ***
    Spe: 51 (-)
    Size Class: 5
    Weight Class: 6
    Base Rank Total: 19

    EC: Doesn't Evolve
    MC: 0
    DC: Unlocked

    Moves: 86
    -AncientPower
    -Aqua Tail
    -Attract
    -Aurora Beam
    -Avalanche
    -Bide
    -Blizzard
    -Block
    -Body Slam
    -Brine
    -Bubblebeam
    -Bulldoze
    -Confuse Ray
    -Curse
    -Dive
    -Double Edge
    -Double Team
    -Dragon Dance
    -Dragon Pulse
    -Dragon Rage
    -Dragons Breath
    -Dream Eater
    -Echoed Voice
    -Endure
    -Facade
    -Fissure
    -Foresight
    -Frost Breath
    -Frustration
    -Future Sight
    -Giga Impact
    -Growl
    -Hail
    -Headbutt
    -Heal Bell
    -Hidden Power Fighting (7)
    -Horn Drill
    -Hydro Pump
    -Hyper Beam
    -Ice Beam
    -Ice Shard
    -Icy Wind
    -Iron Head
    -Iron Tail
    -Mimic
    -Mist
    -Natural Gift
    -Outrage
    -Perish Song
    -Protect
    -Psychic
    -Psywave
    -Rage
    -Rain Dance
    -Reflect
    -Refresh
    -Rest
    -Return
    -Roar
    -Rock Smash
    -Round
    -Safeguard
    -Secret Power
    -Sheer Cold
    -Shock Wave
    -Signal Beam
    -Sing
    -Skull Bash
    -Sleep Talk
    -Snore
    -Solarbeam
    -Strength
    -Substitute
    -Surf
    -Swagger
    -Take Down
    -Thunder
    -Thunderbolt
    -Tickle
    -Toxic
    -Water Gun
    -Water Pulse
    -Waterfall
    -Whirlpool
    -Zap Cannon
    -Zen Headbutt


    Easy KO Counters my ass.

    Temperantia (open)
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    Dwebble- Ramses (M)
    Nature: Adamant (Atk up, SpA decreased)
    Type: Bug/Rock
    Bug: Bug STAB; more mobility in dense brush or forest conditions. Gains an extra guaranteed attack on multi-hit moves.
    Rock: Rock STAB; reduce damage from all special attacks by two (2) Base Attack Power during Sandstorm. Able to use Sand Tomb without losing focus.

    Abilities:
    Sturdy: (Innate) This Pokemon’s body is solidly constructed, reducing the Base Attack Power from an opponents incoming attacks by one (1). The effect is amplified on OHKO Moves, which are reduced by ten (10) Base Attack Power.
    Shell Armor: (Innate) This Pokemon’s thick, bony outer shell prevents it from taking critical hits.
    Weak Armor (DW): (Can Be Enabled) The Pokemon can loosen its worn defensive armor so that it will break off when an opponent uses a contact attack, reducing the Pokemon's Defense and increasing their Speed by one (1) stage for each hit.

    Stats:

    Hp: 90
    Atk(+): 4
    Def: 3
    SpA(-): 1
    SpD: 2
    Spe: 55
    SC: 1
    WC: 3
    BRT: 14

    EC: 0/9
    MC: 0
    DC: 0/5

    Attacks:
    Fury Cutter
    Rock Blast
    Withdraw
    Sand-Attack
    Faint Attack
    Smack Down
    Rock Polish
    Bug Bite
    Stealth Rock

    Sand Tomb
    Counter
    Endure

    Earthquake
    Stone Edge
    Hone Claws

    Total moves: 15

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    Tynamo- Shibimaru (M)
    Nature: Quiet (SpA increased, Speed decreased by 15%, Evasion decreased by flat 10%)
    Type: Electric
    Electric: Electric STAB; 50% reduction in paralysis chance from other electrical attacks, Thunder has perfect accuracy and 30% chance of breaking Protect during Rain. Superior senses in power plant environments.

    Abilities:
    Levitate: (Trait) This Pokemon naturally floats above the earth when released or easily takes flight, evading the Ground moves Bulldoze, Earthquake, Fissure, and Magnitude. Earth Power will have three (3) less Base Attack Power. Dig and Dive can strike a Levitating Pokemon if their user is over Size Class 4, has Levitate, is 3.5m or larger, or is a Flying-type. Otherwise Dig and Dive will miss. Ground moves can still hit. Levitate Pokemon will retain the Levitate trait when they use Skill Swap on an enemy, and will steal the opponent's ability (the user can specify if they want a foe or ally to gain Levitate from a Skill Swap.) If a Pokemon with Levitate uses Role Play, they will copy the opponent's abilities and retain Levitate.

    Stats:

    Hp: 90
    Atk: 2
    Def: 2
    SpA(+): 3
    SpD: 2
    Spe: 52 (60/1.15= 52.2)

    EC: 0/9
    MC: 0
    DC: 0/5

    Attacks:
    Tackle
    Thunder Wave
    Spark
    Charge Beam

    Total Moves: 4


    So.

    Temperantia actions for R1
    Athenodoros actions for R1 and R2
    Temperantia's actions for R2

    Let's get it.
  2. Athenodoros

    Athenodoros Official Smogon Know-It-All

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    In the interests of moving lolfirstround along, I'll just put my actions here for when Temp gets back. I'll put them in hide tags so that there is some semblance of this match going the way it should :)

    Actions (open)
    Round One

    Lapras: Perish Song => Sheer Cold (Smeargle) => Fissure (Smeargle)
    Smeargle: Sketch (PSong) => Sketch (Sheer Cold) => Sketch (Fissure)

    Round Two

    Lapras: Hydro Pump * 3 @ Dwebble
    Smeargle: Taunt (Tynamo) => Taunt (Dwebble) => Dragon Pulse (Tynamo)


    Oh, and I might have exaggerated slightly about easy counters. To be fair, I hadn't decided on Lapras at that point in time. It was only afterwards that I realised that I wanted Perish Song.
  3. Temperantia

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    Well.... Pointless Round 1:

    Dwebble- Hone Claws, Withdraw, Chill
    Tynamo- Tackle, Thunder Wave, Tackle all at Smeargle


    Now for something productive (Round 2):

    Dwebble- Hone Claws-> Rock Blast @ Smeargle-> Stone Edge @ Smeargle

    Tynamo- Spark @ Smeargle-> Charge Beam @ Smeargle-> Spark @ Smeargle
  4. Darkamber8828

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    ASDF THE ORDER ATHENO YOU FUCKED IT UP SO MUCH

    atheno would be posting the first the second round, so you should probably delete that or something, Temper. Reffing this in a moment.
  5. Athenodoros

    Athenodoros Official Smogon Know-It-All

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    Yes, DA. The order is Temp does whatever. Then I do all of my stuff, and then Temp goes, right? Well, that's what ended up happening, except that the nonsensical first round was changed, which doesn't matter.
  6. Darkamber8828

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    Oh.

    Ok then.

    Reffing both rounds simultaneously. Placeholder.

    Also Atheno, your nature description for Lapras is outdated.

    And Temper, you forgot size, weight, and bst on Tynamo.

    Team Athenodoros

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    Lapras (Typhon) (M)
    HP: 120 | EN: 100 | Spe: 51 (-)
    Ranks: 3/3/4/3 | Total: 19
    Size: 5 | Weight: 6
    Abilities: Water Absorb, Shell Armor
    Other: None
    Actions: Perish Song ~ Sheer Cold ~ Fissure, HYDRO PUMP (DWEBBLE)

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    Smeargle (Daedalus) (M)
    HP: 90 | EN: 100 | Spe: 87 (+, 9)
    Ranks: 1/1/1/2 | Total: 11
    Size: 1 | Weight: 3
    Abilities: Own Tempo, Technician
    Other: None
    Actions: SKETCH (LAPRAS), Taunt (Tynamo) ~ Taunt (Dwebble) ~ Dragon Pulse (Tynamo)

    Team Temperantia

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    Dwebble (Ramses) (M)
    HP: 90 | EN: 100 | Spe: 55
    Ranks: 4/3/1/2 | Total: 14
    Size: 1 | Weight: 3
    Abilities: Sturdy, Shell Armor
    Other: None
    Actions: Who Cares, Hone Claws ~ Rock Blast (Smeargle) ~ Stone Edge (Smeargle)

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    Tynamo (Shibimaru) (M)
    HP: 90 | EN: 100 | Spe: 52 (-)
    Ranks: 2/2/3/2 | Total: 12
    Size: 1 | Weight: 1
    Abilities: Levitate
    Other: None
    Actions: IDGAF, Spark ~ Charge Beam ~ Spark (SMEARGLE)

    Round 1: Athenodoros Why Are You Attacking With Smeargle (And Why Sketch Perish Song When It Got Nerfed To Oblivion)

    Conglaturation, Daedalus learned Perish Song, Fissure, and Sheer Cold. A winner is you!

    Round 2: ITT Lapras Curb Stomp

    Daedalus, proud of his artwork, zips ahead of his opponents and Taunts Shibimaru, pissing the little...electric minnow thing off. Ramses Hone Claws, sharpening those nasty-looking things to maul someone, raising his attack and accuracy! Tynamo, his primary form of dicking around with people via paralysis neutered due to irrational anger, bloodthirstily charges towards Daedalus and slams him on his Rank 1 Defense with Spark. Typhon takes advantage of being completely ignored by the opposition to rend Ramses with a powerful Hydro Pump. Damn, I am so fucked in that Gym Battle.

    Fuck.

    Taking a surprising amount of damage from the completely unmenacing pokemon, Daedalus still manages to Taunt Ramses as well. He counters by Rock Blast (4)ing the jerk in the face, and is followed up with a Charge Beam from Shibimaru, which doesn't raise his Special Attack. Sorry. Typhon spams Hydro Pump, because strategy isn't needed when you're 453 pounds heavier than your opponent, eh?

    Daedalus decides to fight back, firing a Dragon Pulse at Shibimaru with the force of a mountain thrown by an amoeba. "Meh", says Temperantia, and continues to punish the Smeargle with combined Stone Edge and Spark assaults. Typhon spams Hydro Pump more.

    Can Temperantia's team topple the teetering Daedalus, or will DAT LAPRAS spam them all to death?

    Team Athenodoros

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    Lapras (Typhon) (M)
    HP: 120 | EN: 67 | Spe: 51 (-)
    Ranks: 3/3/4/3 | Total: 19
    Size: 5 | Weight: 6
    Abilities: Water Absorb, Shell Armor
    Other: None

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    Smeargle (Daedalus) (M)
    HP: 16 | EN: 69 | Spe: 87 (+, 9)
    Ranks: 1/1/1/2 | Total: 11
    Size: 1 | Weight: 3
    Abilities: Own Tempo, Technician
    Other: None

    Team Temperantia

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    Dwebble (Ramses) (M)
    HP: 12 | EN: 83 | Spe: 55
    Ranks: 4/3/1/2 | Total: 14
    Size: 1 | Weight: 3
    Abilities: Sturdy, Shell Armor
    Other: Taunt (4 Actions), +1 Attack, +1 Accuracy

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    Tynamo (Shibimaru) (M)
    HP: 82 | EN: 87 | Spe: 52 (-)
    Ranks: 2/2/3/2 | Total: 12
    Size: 1 | Weight: 1
    Abilities: Levitate
    Other: Taunt (3 Actions)

    Calculations (open)
    Smeargle Taunt v Tynamo (10 Energy)
    Dwebble Hone Claws (6 Energy)
    Tynamo Spark v Smeargle = 7 + 3 + 1.5 = (12 Damage, 4 Energy)
    Lapras Hydro Pump v Dwebble = ((12 + 3 + 3) * 1.5) - 1 = (26 Damage, 7 Energy)

    Smeargle Taunt v Dwebble (14 Energy)
    Dwebble Rock Blast [4] v Smeargle = 12 + 3 + 6 = (21 Damage, 5 Energy)
    Tynamo Charge Beam v Smeargle = 5 + 3 + 1.5 = (10 Damage, 5 Energy)
    Lapras Hydro Pump v Dwebble = ((12 + 3 + 3) * 1.5) - 1 = (26 Damage, 11 Energy)

    Smeargle Dragon Pulse v Tynamo = 9 - 1.5 = (8 Damage, 7 Energy)
    Dwebble Stone Edge v Smeargle = 10 + 3 + 6 = (19 Damage, 6 Energy)
    Tynamo Spark v Smeargle = 7 + 3 + 1.5 = (12 Damage, 4 Energy)
    Lapras Hydro Pump v Dwebble = ((12 + 3 + 3) * 1.5) - 1 = (26 Damage, 15 Energy)

    Smeargle: -74 HP, -31 Energy
    Lapras: -0 HP, -33 Energy
    Tynamo: -8 HP, -13 Energy
    Dwebble: -78 HP, -17 Energy


    Temperantia, go.
  7. Temperantia

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    Well, I'm boned

    Dwebble: Rock Blast @ Smeargle-> Stone Edge @ Smeargle/Lapras if Smeargle is KO'd-> Rock Blast @ Smeargle/Lapras if Smeargle is KO'd

    Tynamo: Spark @ Smeargle/Lapras if Smeargle is KO'd-> Charge Beam Smeargle/Lapras if Smeargle is KO'd-> Spark @ Smeargle/Lapras if Smeargle is KO'd
  8. Athenodoros

    Athenodoros Official Smogon Know-It-All

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    You realise that if you aimed all those attacks at Lapras it would have fainted now? I was kind of hoping Smeargle would be left alone for a bit.

    Also, I love your reffing DA :)

    Lapras: Ice Shard (Dwebble) => Brine (Tynamo) * 2
    Smeargle: Torment (Dwebble) => Pain Split (Tynamo) => Surf
  9. Darkamber8828

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    aw shucks

    that makes my day

    Team Athenodoros

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    Lapras (Typhon) (M)
    HP: 120 | EN: 67 | Spe: 51 (-)
    Ranks: 3/3/4/3 | Total: 19
    Size: 5 | Weight: 6
    Abilities: Water Absorb, Shell Armor
    Other: None
    Actions: Ice Shard (Dwebble) ~ Brine (Tynamo) ~ Brine (Tynamo)

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    Smeargle (Daedalus) (M)
    HP: 16 | EN: 69 | Spe: 87 (+, 9)
    Ranks: 1/1/1/2 | Total: 11
    Size: 1 | Weight: 3
    Abilities: Own Tempo, Technician
    Other: None
    Actions: Torment (Dwebble) ~ Pain Split (Tynamo) ~ Surf

    Team Temperantia

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    Dwebble (Ramses) (M)
    HP: 12 | EN: 83 | Spe: 55
    Ranks: 4/3/1/2 | Total: 14
    Size: 1 | Weight: 3
    Abilities: Sturdy, Shell Armor
    Other: Taunt (4 Actions), +1 Attack, +1 Accuracy
    Actions: Rock Blast ~ Stone Edge ~ Rock Blast (SMEARGLE)

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    Tynamo (Shibimaru) (M)
    HP: 82 | EN: 87 | Spe: 52 (-)
    Ranks: 2/2/3/2 | Total: 12
    Size: 1 | Weight: 1
    Abilities: Levitate
    Other: Taunt (3 Actions)
    Actions: Spark ~ Charge Beam ~ Spark (Tynamo)

    Round 3: Dat Torment...And Dat Pain Split

    Typhon Ice Shards Ramses for some chip damage, and the hills are alive with the sound of Daedalus completely neutering Ramses with Torment. Ouch. It's all up to Shibimaru, and he bravely Sparks the Smeargle again.

    It's not enough. Daedalus saves his ass with Pain Split. Nerf now, denying poor Shibimaru his kill. He continues on with single-minded bloodlust, blasting the rejuvenated Daedalus with a Charge Beam and raising his Special Attack! Typhon sprays the weakened Tynamo with a Brine. Oof.

    Daedalus amazingly gets a KO on Ramses with Surf, ending the poor thing's suffering at last. Shibimaru tries one last, desperate Spark...and keels over to Typhon's Brine, KO'd as well.

    Team Athenodoros

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    Lapras (Typhon) (M)
    HP: 120 | EN: 47 | Spe: 51 (-)
    Ranks: 3/3/4/3 | Total: 19
    Size: 5 | Weight: 6
    Abilities: Water Absorb, Shell Armor
    Other: None

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    Smeargle (Daedalus) (M)
    HP: 21 | EN: 20 | Spe: 87 (+, 9)
    Ranks: 1/1/1/2 | Total: 11
    Size: 1 | Weight: 3
    Abilities: Own Tempo, Technician
    Other: None

    Team Temperantia

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    Dwebble (Ramses) (M)
    HP: 0 | EN: 0 | Spe: 55
    Ranks: 4/3/1/2 | Total: 14
    Size: 1 | Weight: 3
    Abilities: Sturdy, Shell Armor
    Other: Taunt (1 Actions), +1 Attack, +1 Accuracy, Torment (3 Actions)

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    Tynamo (Shibimaru) (M)
    HP: 0 | EN: 0 | Spe: 52 (-)
    Ranks: 2/2/3/2 | Total: 12
    Size: 1 | Weight: 1
    Abilities: Levitate
    Other: N / A

    Calculations (open)
    Lapras Ice Shard v Dwebble = 4 + 3 = (7 Damage, 2 Energy)
    Smeargle Torment v Dwebble (10 Energy)
    Dwebble Fail
    Tynamo Spark v Smeargle = 7 + 3 + 1.5 = (12 Damage, 4 Energy)

    Smeargle Pain Split v Tynamo = (39 Damage, 27 Drain, 32 Energy)
    Dwebble Fail
    Tynamo Charge Beam v Smeargle = 5 + 3 + 1.5 = (10 Damage, 5 Energy)
    Lapras Brine v Tynamo = 13 + 3 + 3 = (19 Damage, 7 Energy)

    Smeargle Surf v Dwebble = ((((10 * 3) / 4) - 1.5) * 1.5) - 1 = (8 Damage, 7 Energy)
    v Tynamo = 10 * (3 / 4) - 1.5 = (6 Damage)
    Smeargle Surf v Lapras = Nothing
    Tynamo Spark v Smeargle = 7 + 3 + 1.5 = (12 Damage, 4 Energy)
    Lapras Brine v Tynamo = 13 + 3 + 3 = (19 Damage, 11 Energy)


    Athenodoros and Temperantia get 2 CC.
    Tynamo and Dwebble get 1 EC, 2 MC, 1 DC.
    Lapras gets 3 MC.
    Smeargle gets 2 MC, 1 DC.
    Lapras and Smeargle get 1 KOC.
    I get 5 RC.
    GG
  10. Temperantia

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    I only ask that you avenge me, Darkamber! /me dies

    GG Athenodoros and thanks DA. See you both when your match starts!
  11. Athenodoros

    Athenodoros Official Smogon Know-It-All

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    Cheers everyone. Let's do it again sometime. There are lots of moves out there for people to get counters from :)
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