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Jirachi (Cosmic Power)

Discussion in 'Locked / Outdated Analyses' started by Dungeons, Dec 2, 2012.

  1. Dungeons

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    Jirachi

    [SET]
    name: Cosmic Power (HEROachi)
    move 1: Cosmic Power
    move 2: Charge Beam
    move 3: Water Pulse / Energy Ball / Psycic
    move 4: Wish
    item: Leftovers
    nature: Bold
    evs: 112 HP / 144 Def / 252 SpD

    Why this set deserves to be on-site:

    • Can set up easily with access to Charge Beam, Serene Grace, and Cosmic Power.
    • Devestates unprepared teams and faints four or five Pokemon if played correctly.
    Additional Comments:

    • If you do use Water Pulse over Energy Ball, you will be walled Gastrdon.
    • Psycic or Psyshock could be used over Energy Ball for their STABs and higher base power, but you could become set-up bait to a Krookodile.
    • His EV spread of 112 HP / 144 Def / 252 SpD and Bold Nature allows Jirachi to take less damage compared to 4 HP / 252 Def / 252 SpD.
    Teammates & Counters:

    • Pokemon, such as Landerous, can cause a serious issue if Jirachi is in his set-up stage. Keldeo can switch in and take care of these threats generally, but you may need a Choice Scarf user.
    • This variation of Jirachi likes entry hazards and rain support for his weakness to fire types, Water Pulse gets added power, and less Pokemon can switch in to attempt and stop his set up.
    • Physical Dragonites synergize well with Jirachi. They cover all of each other's weaknesses and resist every type exept Electric. Jirachi acts as the bulk for some of Dragonite's damage where he can't handle an Outage. These switches allow Jirachi to set up and start his own sweep.
  2. Dice

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    Maximizing HP is always optimal, even with cosmic power usually unless you're living something with a boost you wouldn't otherwise.. Also I don't get the moves or the set..
  3. Thaldios

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    The set needs some work, that needs to be said at least. How much have you tested it? It's like you threw it together on a simulator team builder and theorymon'd, because Wish without Protect when you try to heal yourself doesn't work too well. Also, 252 HP before max Def, honestly. Your spread needs a serious explanation, and like Bri, I have no comprehension of why the set is the way it is. Please elaborate (and work on the spelling a nd grammar a bit).
  4. Dungeons

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    The Idea is to abuse cosmic power for a few turns, to maximize your defense, and use charge beam to boost your attack so you turn into a tank. Wish is for healing if you get spammed at by a attack like night shade that gets annoying and to increase your time on the field. You are trying to get your pokemon so powerful that he just destroyes everything. It actually works!!! Here is an actual battle for you to see the way it works. It takes a little while to get used to it I have to admit:
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    Battle between Gunter92 and Dungeons started!

    Tier: Wifi OU
    Mode: Singles
    Rule: Rated
    Rule: Sleep Clause
    Rule: Species Clause
    Rule: Wifi Battle
    Variation: +9, -23

    Your team: Politoed / Lapras / Ferrothorn / Starmie / Jirachi / Tentacruel
    Opponent's team: Mew / Ditto / Salamence / Galvantula / Metagross / Dusclops

    Gunter92 sent out Galvantula!
    Dungeons sent out Politoed!
    Politoed's Drizzle made it rain!

    Start of turn 1
    The foe's Galvantula used Thunderbolt!
    It's super effective!
    A critical hit!
    The foe's Galvantula's Electric Gem raised Thunderbolt's power!
    Politoed lost 384 HP! (100% of its health)
    Politoed fainted!

    Rain continues to fall.
    Dungeons sent out Jirachi!

    Start of turn 2
    Gunter92 called Galvantula back!
    Gunter92 sent out Metagross!

    Jirachi used Cosmic Power!
    Jirachi's Defense rose!
    Jirachi's Sp. Def. rose!

    Rain continues to fall.

    Start of turn 3
    Jirachi used Cosmic Power!
    Jirachi's Defense rose!
    Jirachi's Sp. Def. rose!

    The foe's Metagross used Shadow Ball!
    Jirachi lost 27 HP! (7% of its health)
    Jirachi's Sp. Def. fell!

    Rain continues to fall.
    Jirachi restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 4
    Jirachi used Cosmic Power!
    Jirachi's Defense rose!
    Jirachi's Sp. Def. rose!

    The foe's Metagross used Hammer Arm!
    Jirachi lost 32 HP! (8% of its health)
    The foe's Metagross's Speed fell!

    Rain continues to fall.
    Jirachi restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 5
    Jirachi used Cosmic Power!
    Jirachi's Defense rose!
    Jirachi's Sp. Def. rose!

    The foe's Metagross used Rock Slide!
    It's not very effective...
    Jirachi lost 11 HP! (2% of its health)

    Rain continues to fall.
    Jirachi restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 6
    Gunter92 called Metagross back!
    Gunter92 sent out Dusclops!

    The foe's Dusclops is exerting its Pressure!
    Jirachi used Cosmic Power!
    Jirachi's Defense rose!
    Jirachi's Sp. Def. rose!

    Rain continues to fall.
    Jirachi restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 7
    Jirachi used Cosmic Power!
    Jirachi's Defense rose!
    Jirachi's Sp. Def. rose!

    The foe's Dusclops used Dark Pulse!
    Jirachi lost 13 HP! (3% of its health)

    Rain continues to fall.
    Jirachi restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 8
    Jirachi used Cosmic Power!
    Jirachi's Sp. Def. rose!

    The foe's Dusclops used Seismic Toss!
    Jirachi lost 100 HP! (27% of its health)

    Rain continues to fall.
    Jirachi restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 9
    Jirachi used Charge Beam!
    The foe's Dusclops lost 11% of its health!
    Jirachi's Sp. Att. rose!

    The foe's Dusclops used Seismic Toss!
    Jirachi lost 100 HP! (27% of its health)

    Rain continues to fall.
    Jirachi restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    The foe's Dusclops restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 10
    Jirachi used Wish!

    The foe's Dusclops used Seismic Toss!
    Jirachi lost 100 HP! (27% of its health)

    Rain continues to fall.
    Jirachi restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    The foe's Dusclops restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 11
    Jirachi used Water Pulse!
    The foe's Dusclops lost 31% of its health!

    The foe's Dusclops used Seismic Toss!
    Jirachi lost 100 HP! (27% of its health)

    Rain continues to fall.
    Jirachi's wish came true!
    Jirachi restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    The foe's Dusclops restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 12
    Jirachi used Wish!

    The foe's Dusclops used Seismic Toss!
    Jirachi lost 100 HP! (27% of its health)

    Rain continues to fall.
    Jirachi restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    The foe's Dusclops restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 13
    Jirachi used Charge Beam!
    The foe's Dusclops lost 19% of its health!
    Jirachi's Sp. Att. rose!

    The foe's Dusclops used Seismic Toss!
    Jirachi lost 100 HP! (27% of its health)

    Rain continues to fall.
    Jirachi's wish came true!
    Jirachi restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    The foe's Dusclops restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 14
    Jirachi used Wish!

    The foe's Dusclops used Seismic Toss!
    Jirachi lost 100 HP! (27% of its health)

    Rain continues to fall.
    Jirachi restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    The foe's Dusclops restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 15
    Jirachi used Charge Beam!
    A critical hit!
    The foe's Dusclops lost 44% of its health!
    Jirachi's Sp. Att. rose!

    The foe's Dusclops used Seismic Toss!
    Jirachi lost 100 HP! (27% of its health)

    Rain continues to fall.
    Jirachi's wish came true!
    Jirachi restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    The foe's Dusclops restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 16
    Jirachi used Wish!

    The foe's Dusclops used Shadow Ball!
    Jirachi lost 16 HP! (4% of its health)

    Rain continues to fall.
    Jirachi restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    The foe's Dusclops restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 17
    Jirachi used Charge Beam!
    The foe's Dusclops lost 27% of its health!
    Jirachi's Sp. Att. rose!

    The foe's Dusclops used Seismic Toss!
    Jirachi lost 100 HP! (27% of its health)

    Rain continues to fall.
    Jirachi's wish came true!
    The foe's Dusclops restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 18
    Jirachi used Charge Beam!
    The foe's Dusclops lost 20% of its health!
    The foe's Dusclops fainted!
    Jirachi's Sp. Att. rose!

    Rain continues to fall.
    Gunter92 sent out Metagross!

    Start of turn 19
    Jirachi used Water Pulse!
    The foe's Metagross lost 82% of its health!

    The foe's Metagross used Hammer Arm!
    Jirachi lost 20 HP! (5% of its health)
    The foe's Metagross's Speed fell!

    Rain continues to fall.
    Jirachi restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 20
    Jirachi used Water Pulse!
    The foe's Metagross lost 18% of its health!
    The foe's Metagross fainted!

    Rain continues to fall.
    Gunter92 sent out Mew!

    Start of turn 21
    The foe's Mew used Hypnosis!
    The attack of the foe's Mew missed!

    Jirachi used Water Pulse!
    The foe's Mew lost 64% of its health!

    Rain continues to fall.
    The foe's Mew restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 22
    The foe's Mew used Hypnosis!
    Jirachi fell asleep!

    Jirachi is fast asleep.

    Rain continues to fall.
    The foe's Mew restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 23
    The foe's Mew used Psychic!
    It's not very effective...
    Jirachi lost 6 HP! (1% of its health)

    Jirachi is fast asleep.

    Rain continues to fall.
    The foe's Mew restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    Jirachi restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 24
    The foe's Mew used Softboiled!
    The foe's Mew regained health!

    Jirachi woke up!
    Jirachi used Water Pulse!
    The foe's Mew lost 70% of its health!
    The foe's Mew became confused!

    Rain continues to fall.
    The foe's Mew restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 25
    The foe's Mew is confused!
    It hurt itself in its confusion!
    The foe's Mew lost 8% of its health!

    Jirachi used Charge Beam!
    The foe's Mew lost 26% of its health!
    The foe's Mew fainted!
    Jirachi's Sp. Att. rose!

    Rain continues to fall.
    Gunter92 sent out Salamence!

    The foe's Salamence intimidates Jirachi!
    Jirachi's Attack fell!

    Start of turn 26
    The foe's Salamence used Outrage!
    It's not very effective...
    Jirachi lost 22 HP! (5% of its health)
    Dungeons: gg

    Jirachi used Water Pulse!
    It's not very effective...
    The foe's Salamence lost 48% of its health!
    The foe's Salamence became confused!

    Rain continues to fall.
    Jirachi restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Start of turn 27
    The foe's Salamence is confused!
    It hurt itself in its confusion!
    The foe's Salamence lost 13% of its health!

    Jirachi used Water Pulse!
    It's not very effective...
    A critical hit!
    The foe's Salamence lost 38% of its health!
    The foe's Salamence fainted!

    Rain continues to fall.
    Gunter92: D***, you're just sweeping .-.
    Gunter92 sent out Galvantula!

    Dungeons: HeroAchi is the best Jirachi

    Start of turn 28
    The foe's Galvantula used Thunderbolt!
    Jirachi lost 27 HP! (7% of its health)

    Jirachi used Water Pulse!
    The foe's Galvantula lost 100% of its health!
    The foe's Galvantula fainted!

    Rain continues to fall.
    Jirachi restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    Gunter92 sent out Ditto!

    The foe's Ditto transformed into Jirachi!

    Start of turn 29
    Jirachi used Water Pulse!
    A critical hit!
    The foe's Ditto lost 100% of its health!
    The foe's Ditto fainted!

    Dungeons won the battle!
    Dungeons: What are you striving for?
    Gunter92: Next time won't be so easy...
  5. Thaldios

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    That was the easiest battle ever. Your opponent was terrible. Not proof that it works, imo. Give us a more quality opponent.
  6. Dungeons

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    Well, I see a lot of people on PO who use teams like that but let me see if my friend is on. She is a boss at OU. Just give me a sec.

    Edit: She wasn't signed on to PokeDS. If you wanna battle me on PO, I would be more than willing. My name is Dungeons.
  7. Dusk209

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    As much as I think Cosmic Power can be viable on Jirachi, the rest of the set sounds pretty lame. I'd prefer having a STAB move at all times, or maybe thunder if you're in rain. Also charge beam is kind of garbage - you might as well use calm mind or protect in that slot.
  8. Dungeons

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    Dang, this was my favorite pokemon to use and everything XD and you all say it sucks. I promise you it has helped a lot. I guess I shouldn't of even tried to share :/
  9. shrang

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    Can you provide more logs, please? What you have isn't very convincing. I've faced this set before in the past, and while I admit I was caught off guard by it, it's REALLY susceptible to hax and phazing since you need to spend SO long setting it up. In such an offensive metagame as the one we are in, I can't see it working very well.
  10. Dungeons

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    You know I hate being said that someting of mine sucks. So now I must strive into making a great stall jirachi. Mixed wall I shall go. Till then!
  11. ginganinja

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    like Shrang I have seen Cosimic Power Jirachi used well on rare occasions, but it requires a ton of support and its fair share of luck (since a CH fucks you and they have all the time in the world to CH). Regardless, the actual set posted has a large number of flaws, and your single log is of a pretty bad opponent. If someone wants to actually make a better job at presenting the set, you can give it a go, but this version doesn't get a pass from me sorry

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  12. shrang

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    Yep,

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  13. jc104

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    Sorry. I'm afraid I find this thing way too hard to justify over CM.

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